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Wondering if there is anything that can be done to get a Nook to connect at faster than 54 mbps G speeds? Does it really have a N wireless chip? I have searched and searched and cant find an answer to this.
According to the spec sheet, the wireless radio chip does support N. I'm not sure whether the software supports it
Radio: Chip ID Ti wl1271 (kernel reports wl1273) Chip supports bluetooth transmit/recieve and fm radio functions through the same antenna, but is not enabled in software drivers. Connectivity: 802.11b/g/n Security: WEP/WPA/WPA2/802.1x Mode: Infrastructure
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I get N connectivity via CM7 - been so long since I ran stock that I don't recall.
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Yamadog, do you currently have a n router that you are trying to connect too?
I've read before that the Nook Color wifi chip only supports 2.4 GHz range (which is used for both 11g and 11n) but not 5 GHz range (which is only for 11n). If you have a b/g/n/ router running in compatibility mode for all three types then it might possibly be doing 11n only at 5 GHz and 11b/g only at 2.4 GHz and so your Nook would never be able to see the 11n signal. Try putting your router in 11n-only mode and see what happens
I'm on CM7 and I've never seen a rate above 54mbps regardless of N availability.
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Yamadog, do you currently have a n router that you are trying to connect too?
I've read before that the Nook Color wifi chip only supports 2.4 GHz range (which is used for both 11g and 11n) but not 5 GHz range (which is only for 11n). If you have a b/g/n/ router running in compatibility mode for all three types then it might possibly be doing 11n only at 5 GHz and 11b/g only at 2.4 GHz and so your Nook would never be able to see the 11n signal. Try putting your router in 11n-only mode and see what happens
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I have no problem with the connection its just it connects at only 54 mbps which limits download speeds to around 11 mbps Max. My computers connect at 270 to300 mbps at download at my full 24 mbps speeds. I did have a g only router and it limited my computers to only 11 mbps like the nook. Aipparently the g rating of 54 mbps is just under ideal lab conditions and not really obtainable.
According to my home N router, the Nook Color connects at 54mbps but N is in use. For some reason that is the max rate it will use. I've seen this happen with other N devices when WMM is disabled on the client.
Whoa sorry never really answered you. My router is a cheapo 2.4 ghz n but it does allow 300 mbps connections. I have to run it in b,g,n mode because our wii is only g wifi.
swaaye said:
According to my home N router, the Nook Color connects at 54mbps but N is in use. For some reason that is the max rate it will use. I've seen this happen with other N devices when WMM is disabled on the client.
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I bet that's the case with mine too, but I haven't checked. It does pick up signals like its running n though.
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Yamadog, do you currently have a n router that you are trying to connect too?
I've read before that the Nook Color wifi chip only supports 2.4 GHz range (which is used for both 11g and 11n) but not 5 GHz range (which is only for 11n). If you have a b/g/n/ router running in compatibility mode for all three types then it might possibly be doing 11n only at 5 GHz and 11b/g only at 2.4 GHz and so your Nook would never be able to see the 11n signal. Try putting your router in 11n-only mode and see what happens
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802.11n operates on both 2.4GHz (20MHz bandwidth) and 5GHz (40MHz bandwidth).
Anyway, how do you guys check out the rate on the NC?
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802.11n operates on both 2.4GHz (20MHz bandwidth) and 5GHz (40MHz bandwidth).
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I know, but I've heard of routers that do compatibility mode by segregating g and n between the 2.4 and 5 GHz antennas
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802.11n operates on both 2.4GHz (20MHz bandwidth) and 5GHz (40MHz bandwidth).
Anyway, how do you guys check out the rate on the NC?
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Didnt realize all n routers did this. Checked mine and it shows my computer on 40 mhz and Nook on 20.
To check Nook connection link speed just click on the connected network and it lists all info for it.
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According to my home N router, the Nook Color connects at 54mbps but N is in use. For some reason that is the max rate it will use. I've seen this happen with other N devices when WMM is disabled on the client.
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I checked and did not have WMM enabled on my router. Enabled and although the connection speed still says 54 mbps, I recorded much higher, sometimes double, the download speed vs WMM turned off. Thanks! It might be a fluke but the speeds were not far off my desktop.
Actually it is a fluke. All along I have been using the android app for speed test to check my nook and it shows roughly half the speed vs the regular desktop speed page of speed test. Oh well at least I know I'm getting all the speed out of it.
fyi the Wifi chip is capable of up to 65mbps. I've seen this rate from other tablets with TI WLAN chips on my router. I haven't a clue why the Nook Color won't go that high. Not on any N router I've connected to.
I even took a look at the tiwlan.ini file but I don't see anything apparent in there. N appears to be enabled.
Until recently I was using Connectify to set up a home wifi hotspot for my phone (TMOUS HD7, running 7720 with the latest T-Mobile/HTC firmware) to use. Yesterday I installed a router instead, which has allowed me to play with more network settings.
If I set the router to 802.11n-only, my HD7 can see it but can't connect. If I set it to 802.11g-only, everything works fine. Has anyone actually confirmed that the HD7 can do "n"?
my home wifi network is "n" and both my hd7's connect to it fine.
I have forced the n-mode, no problems connecting
Yep, Wireless N works perfectly fine here
Which 802.11n are you talking about? 2.4Ghz works but 5Ghz won't. so it only does draft n not full 300mbps 5ghz 802.11n
You are comparing two different things, WLAN standard has nothing to do with frequency, HD7 follows IEEE802.11b/g/n standard operating on 2.4 GHz with 20/40MHz bandwidth, allowing maximum throughput of 150Mbps. It is capable of DSSS and OFDM modulation, and is also capable of operating in dualband mode, which allows it to connect to 2.4 GHz and 5GHz IEEE802.11a/b/g/n networks, this is however up to the OEM to enable this feature, this is not the case for HD7, or any WP7 device out there.
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You are comparing two different things, WLAN standard has nothing to do with frequency, HD7 follows IEEE802.11b/g/n standard operating on 2.4 GHz with 20/40MHz bandwidth, allowing maximum throughput of 150Mbps. It is capable of DSSS and OFDM modulation, and is also capable of operating in dualband mode, which allows it to connect to 2.4 GHz and 5GHz IEEE802.11a/b/g/n networks, this is however up to the OEM to enable this feature, this is not the case for HD7, or any WP7 device out there.
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Draft-n was 2.4ghz 150mbps was it not? where as full rate 802.11n is 300mbps and operates at 5ghz?!
Well, yes and no, 802.11n is capable of data rates up to 600 Mbit/s, those are achieved only with the maximum of four spatial streams using a 40 MHz-wide channel. However, when in 2.4 GHz enabling this option takes up to 82% of the unlicensed band, which in many areas may prove to be unfeasible. I don´t have device which is able to be set to achieve this limit (2.4GHz / 40MHz with 400ns Guard Interval), so I can´t test it. Do you have internet connection that requires such a high value?
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Well, yes and no, 802.11n is capable of data rates up to 600 Mbit/s, those are achieved only with the maximum of four spatial streams using a 40 MHz-wide channel. However, when in 2.4 GHz enabling this option takes up to 82% of the unlicensed band, which in many areas may prove to be unfeasible. I don´t have device which is able to be set to achieve this limit (2.4GHz / 40MHz with 400ns Guard Interval), so I can´t test it. Do you have internet connection that requires such a high value?
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lol personally now i don't my links is 17mbit but i like the 300mbps for video streaming and file transfers, if only i had an access point with a gigabit lan interface haha
What is the fastest wifi link speed (lan speed) that HTC One is capable of?
I have a Sprint HTC One running stock 4.1.2.
I have a Netgear WNDR3400 v1 wifi-n router (300 + 300) with both the 2.4 and 5 Hz bands active.
Security is WPA2-PSK and I have mac filtering enabled on an access control list.
With the HTC One, I can't seem to connect faster than 150 Mbps on either 2.4 Ghz or 5Ghz bands whereas my Win7 laptop can connect at 300 Mbps each time.
Do I need to download any specific wifi drivers for the HTC One to achieve a wifi link speed higher than 150 Mbps?
Are there any custom ROMs that offer this natively?
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What is the fastest wifi link speed (lan speed) that HTC One is capable of?
I have a Sprint HTC One running stock 4.1.2.
I have a Netgear WNDR3400 v1 wifi-n router (300 + 300) with both the 2.4 and 5 Hz bands active.
Security is WPA2-PSK and I have mac filtering enabled on an access control list.
With the HTC One, I can't seem to connect faster than 150 Mbps on either 2.4 Ghz or 5Ghz bands whereas my Win7 laptop can connect at 300 Mbps each time.
Do I need to download any specific wifi drivers for the HTC One to achieve a wifi link speed higher than 150 Mbps?
Are there any custom ROMs that offer this natively?
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Try enabling best wi-fi performance, if that does fix it I wouldn't recommend it using it will chew up your battery. There is really no reason needing a 300 megabit connection other than benchmarking it.
So my wi-fi speed was awfully slow on my razr I, I started diggin on the settings and I managed to improve it a bit by changing the channels on the router, but still, compared to my desktop pc, and my friend Iphone 4s, I only get half the speed!! (12bmps vs 6bmps), I'm the only one with this issue? any idea how to improve it? I'm on stock 4.1.2 retail br.
I get 10/1Mbps when using my Razr (tested using "Speedtest" app) and 30/1Mbps when using my laptop. They are both connected using Wifi and are in the same location. Sadly, I can not tell you how other smartphones perform in my environment.
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I get 10/1Mbps when using my Razr (tested using "Speedtest" app) and 30/1Mbps when using my laptop. They are both connected using Wifi and are in the same location. Sadly, I can not tell you how other smartphones perform in my environment.
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It should perform as good as your laptop, guess I'm not the only one with thar issue.
YaPeL said:
It should perform as good as your laptop, guess I'm not the only one with thar issue.
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I've made another observation. My wlan ap shows a gross bit rate of 72 Mbit/s for my razr and of 130 Mbit/s for my laptop.
It (kind of) reflects the relative performance difference I get when comparing the devices - so maybe the Razr just has a bad antenna?
pirast said:
I've made another observation. My wlan ap shows a gross bit rate of 72 Mbit/s for my razr and of 130 Mbit/s for my laptop.
It (kind of) reflects the relative performance difference I get when comparing the devices - so maybe the Razr just has a bad antenna?
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what app did you used? its quite strange tbh, hope we get some more feedback.
Its called speedtest.net
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Its called speedtest.net
Sent from my XT890 using xda app-developers app
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this one? I can't see that "gross" speed anywhere
Yup. The gross speed is shown in the user interface of my WLAN AP, which is a Fritz box 7312 from avm
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WLAN Speed optimization:
- Try disabling "WMM" / "QoS" (Wi-Fi Multimedia / Quality of Service).
- Try "n" only or mixed Mode "b,g,n"
- "n" needs "WPA2 AES CCMP" encryption for full Speed! (No WEP, no WPA1, no WPA2 TKIP)!
- Try fixed Channel, no auto channels. Use only channel 3-11!
- Try "2 Channel Mode / 300 Mbit/s Mode / 40Mhz Mode)
2x150 Mbit/s =300 Mbit/s --> 40MHZ
2x 75 Mbit/s =150 Mbit/s --> 20MHZ
it also depends on "HOW MANY ANTENNAS YOUR ROUTER HAS" -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009
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IEEE 802.11 2 Mbit/s max
IEEE 802.11a 54 Mbit/s max
IEEE 802.11b 11 Mbit/s max
IEEE 802.11g 54 Mbit/s max
IEEE 802.11h 54 Mbit/s max
IEEE 802.11n 2,4 und 5 GHz 75Mbits (1 Channel Mode 20Mhz) / 150Mbit/s (1 Channel Mode 40Mhz) / 300 Mbit/s (2 Channel Mode 40Mhz) 600 Mbit/s (MIMO)
IEEE 802.11ac 5 GHz >1,3 Gbit/s max (MIMO)
IEEE 802.11ad 60 GHz 6,7 GBit/s max
5m00v3 said:
WLAN Speed optimization:
- Try disabling "WMM" / "QoS" (Wi-Fi Multimedia / Quality of Service).
- Try "n" only or mixed Mode "b,g,n"
- "n" often needs "WPA2 AES ONLY" for full Speed! (No encryption Mixed Mode!)
- Try fixed Channel, no auto channels, not channel 12 or 13!
- Try "2 Channel Mode / 300 Mbit/s Mode / 40Mhz Mode)
2x150 Mbit/s =300 Mbit/s --> 40MHZ
2x 75 Mbit/s =150 Mbit/s --> 20MHZ
it also depends on "HOW MANY ANTENNAS YOUR ROUTER HAS" -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n-2009
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IEEE 802.11 2 Mbit/s max
IEEE 802.11a 54 Mbit/s max
IEEE 802.11b 11 Mbit/s max
IEEE 802.11g 54 Mbit/s max
IEEE 802.11h 54 Mbit/s max
IEEE 802.11n 2,4 und 5 GHz 150Mbit/s (1 Channel Mode 20Mhz) / 300 Mbit/s (2 Channel Mode 40Mhz) 600 Mbit/s (MIMO)
IEEE 802.11ac 5 GHz >1,3 Gbit/s max (MIMO)
IEEE 802.11ad 60 GHz 6,7 GBit/s max
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great info man, I did the channel thing and it really improved my wi-fi speed, (it wasn't even reaching 1mb) in fact, I even thought of enabling the channel 14 to avoid any interference, but, I still can't get more than 5mb on my phone :/ (vs 12mb on my pc) do you get the same speed on your router as on your laptop/pc?
YaPeL said:
great info man, I did the channel thing and it really improved my wi-fi speed, (it wasn't even reaching 1mb) in fact, I even thought of enabling the channel 14 to avoid any interference, but, I still can't get more than 5mb on my phone :/ (vs 12mb on my pc) do you get the same speed on your router as on your laptop/pc?
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I think i also never managed to get the 150 Mbit/s Mode on my Ri. I have the bad feeling that the Ri is at least capable of the "n" Standard but
didn´t get the MIMO feature of 2 discret WLAN-Antennas or it can´t manage 40Mhz bandwidth...
I will test again if i´m home...
P.S. be sure to use "WPA2 AES" only! Not WPA1+WPA2 mixed mode and not "WPA2 TKIP"!
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Oh that´s bad...
i´ve just read that some Intel-WLAN-Chips don´t support 40Mhz Bandwidth on 2,4Ghz but on 5Ghz.
I don´t know if we got such an Intel-WLAN-Chip in our Razr i, but that could be the Problem...
Anybody here to test if a 5Ghz connection shows 150Mbits?
5m00v3 said:
I think i also never managed to get the 150 Mbit/s Mode on my Ri. I have the bad feeling that the Ri is at least capable of the "n" Standard but
didn´t get the MIMO feature of 2 discret WLAN-Antennas or it can´t manage 40Mhz bandwidth...
I will test again if i´m home...
P.S. be sure to use "WPA2 AES" only! Not WPA1+WPA2 mixed mode and not "WPA2 TKIP"!
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Oh that´s bad...
i´ve just read that some Intel-WLAN-Chips don´t support 40Mhz Bandwidth on 2,4Ghz but on 5Ghz.
I don´t know if we got such an Intel-WLAN-Chip in our Razr i, but that could be the Problem...
Anybody here to test if a 5Ghz connection shows 150Mbits?
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running iw list shows that even @5ghz it doesn't support 40mhz Bandwidth, I'm so piss off that my friend iphone managed to deliever the same speed as my desktop machine.
i´ve been looking for some chipset-spec´s of Ri Wifi-Chipset but did not find anything detailed...
Maybe its possible by modding some configuration-files to allow 40Mhz Bandwidht...
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I have the bad feeling that the Ri is at least capable of the "n" Standard
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I just tested, set mode to "n" only, my razr can't connect, its like it tries, and then it fails and it goes like this foreverm and by looking at the iw manpage, when ti connects it looks like it connects in "legacy mode"
5m00v3 said:
i´ve been looking for some chipset-spec´s of Ri Wifi-Chipset but did not find anything detailed...
Maybe its possible by modding some configuration-files to allow 40Mhz Bandwidht...
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yeah me too, but didn't found anything, except for the above and this, maybe its a bug in my router that makes the phone fall in that legacy mode, dunno.
i have a little update:
- Razr i is indeed MIMO capable (11n standard), but can only use one paralell data-stream (1T1R = 1 transmitter 1 receiver).
That means it realy can have up to 150Mbits in a 40Mhz Bandwidth network.
can only use one paralell data-stream (1T1R = 1 transmitter 1 receiver) with 20Mhz Channels = 75Mbits max.
BUT:
- The newer 11n standard not allows to manually select 40Mhz Bandwidth in a 2,4Ghz Network
(There are some older "N-Draft" router that allows manually selection of 40Mhz Bandwidth in a 2,4Ghz Network)
The newer 11n standard only allows 40Mhz in a 2,4Ghz Network in "Auto Channel Mode" together with 6 free Channels in a row.
In a 5Ghz network it is allowed to use 40Mhz manually because there are much more channels to use...
So on newer router with 2,4Ghz and 20Mhz Bandwidth network you will have max. 68Mbits brutto (= ca. 5 Megabyte/s netto).
Maybe you could get an older n-Draft router to test, or play with the 5Ghz setting?
Just check if your Router is able to set up 40Mhz Channels in a 2,4/5Ghz network...
5m00v3 said:
i have a little update:
- Razr i is indeed MIMO capable (11n standard), but can only use one paralell data-stream (1T1R = 1 transmitter 1 receiver).
That means it realy can have up to 150Mbits in a 40Mhz Bandwidth network.
BUT:
- The newer 11n standard not allows to manually select 40Mhz Bandwidth in a 2,4Ghz Network
(There are some older "N-Draft" router that allows manually selection of 40Mhz Bandwidth in a 2,4Ghz Network)
The newer 11n standard only allows 40Mhz in a 2,4Ghz Network in "Auto Channel Mode" together with 6 free Channels in a row.
In a 5Ghz network it is allowed to use 40Mhz manually because there are much more channels to use...
So on newer router with 2,4Ghz and 20Mhz Bandwidth network you will have max. 68Mbits brutto (= ca. 5 Megabyte/s netto).
Maybe you could get an older n-Draft router to test, or play with the 5Ghz setting?
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well, my router allows me to use 40mhz in a 2,4Ghz network, but the problem remains, also it doesn't let me use the 5ghz band, still 5 m.bytes netto should be more than enough for my 10mbits internet connection, I guess I need to try on another router, or get more feedback from other users.
Can you try renaming your 5Ghz Network to an other name than the 2,4Ghz Network!?
I have something read about that this could be a problem...
5m00v3 said:
Can you try renaming your 5Ghz Network to an other name than the 2,4Ghz Network!?
I have something read about that this could be a problem...
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it doesn't even have a 5ghz band lol, I'm going to try to measure the local speed, maybe there is an issue else where....
edit: nop, I get almost the same speed albeit a little faster (8/10mbits)
I have had halved speed if I have tried it on a special app for measuring connection speed, but I have the same speed as on my PC if I use browser and it tests on my razr I.
Lucki_X said:
I have had halved speed if I have tried it on a special app for measuring connection speed, but I have the same speed as on my PC if I use browser and it tests on my razr I.
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where do you test it? (don't tell me it feels equally fast)
After recently upgrading my family's phone's, we all now have 5 Ghz Wi-Fi capable devices, so I got a dual band AC 5 Ghz Asus router.
My broadband is rated at 20mbps down...ok, so testing with ookla speed test I'm getting the same transfer rates on either of the Wi-Fi bands (2.4 Ghz or 5Ghz)
I thought I read somewhere 5 Ghz is what you want, and should select that one....but now I'm understanding it has much less range but more bandwidth, but if I'm maxing out my 20m connection at 2.4 Ghz, what is the advantage of 5 Ghz?
(I hope this makes sense to someone who can reply)
5ghz is better if you are struggling with 2.4. Depends on how many mouths you are feeding. If you speed test near 20mb then don't worry about it cause ur not drawing a lot.
BAD ASS NOTE 4
2 things
1. Set them up as 2 separate networks with different names as passwords. Thus prevents devices from auto switching
2. As a general principal 5.0 ghz I'd better for streaming media and gaming, but does not go through walls well. 2.5 ghz is what gives your router is range. So anything that is streaming (eg. Xbox, chromecast, pc) you want on 5 ghz and close to your router, anything else you want on 2.5 ghz so it will work at longer range without losing signal.
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802.11n on 2.4GHz can connect at a minimum of 72Mbps and a maximum of 600Mbps. Unless you spent a boatload on a router and live in the middle of nowhere and operate no bluetooth devices you're unlikely to get 600Mbps on 2.4GHz as it relies on having four antennae and a 40MHz block available. 5.0GHz is much less congested so you'll always get the full 40MHz channel and the speed is limited by the number of antennae on your router.
The Note 4 supports 802.11ac, which skews it more heavily in favor of the 5GHz band. 802.11ac can use up to 160MHz channels which can achieve a data rate of 1300Mbps on the 5GHz band.
Now, all of that is completely theoretical. I can tell you that my T-Mobile Cellspot allowed me to hit ~80Mbps on 2.4 and ~130Mbps on 5 when I had a 130Mbps connection. I switched to Verizon and took 50Mbps due to cost, and the router they provide will only hit 50Mbps on the 5GHz band. On 2.4GHz I see closer to 25Mbps unfortunately.
Basically, I would set it up at 5GHz and walk to the extreme end of your house. See if you can still speedtest at your full line speed. If you can, stick to 5GHz. If you lose signal, drop to 2.4GHz.
Thanks for the answers guys.