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I have a S6500 and I would like to install a custom rom I've seen here, but I would like to do before a backup of my stock rom that is flashable by odin without installing cwm as my stock ROM is S6500BVLE3 Orange Spain and for reasons of I like to have my warranty stock rom.
Anyone know if I could create a full backup without installing cwm, for exemple adb commands, etc..?
Thanks.
root ur phone
install titanium backup app
backup all the data of everything
you can make a full nandroid backup with stock recovery.
pryerlee said:
you can make a full nandroid backup with stock recovery.
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No you can :facepalm:
If that would, no one will install CWM.
it is very difficult to create a odin flashable fw
there's a guide for it in xda
There is disk image of stock ROM flashable via odin but of course data will no be restorable and must be backed up via titanium backup.
Sent from s6500d with custom ROM and kernel.
Well ... if you want to install a custom ROM , you would have to install CWM anyway , so yea ... xD
I can guarantee that there's nothing that could happen to your device as long as you flash the right things , though . You can find all you need in my signature below (first download Odin , then the CWM 5.0.2.8 .tar , then flash the CWM tar as PDA with Odin while your phone is in Download mode) .
So the short answer is no , you can't do anything without CWM (no backing up , no rooting , no custom roms) .
Hello,
I have recently purchased a Galaxy S Advance phone, and I am quite new to the android os.
I have read already many guides and forums about the whole process of rooting / flashing etc, so I have some knowledge of the terminology.
I already have a rooted phone with GB on it (yes, I know JB is about to come out officially ) and I wanted to change some of the UI elements.
I installed the rom manager app by koush, but yet to use it because I saw that in the past that the phone wasn't supported.
My question is: Does ROM Manager support this phone? Can I go ahead and flash CWM on it from the rom manager app, and then use it to flash other roms?
If not, which is the best solution to backup and replace roms? ODIN?
Thanks,
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YMatrix said:
Hello,
I have recently purchased a Galaxy S Advance phone, and I am quite new to the android os.
I have read already many guides and forums about the whole process of rooting / flashing etc, so I have some knowledge of the terminology.
I already have a rooted phone with GB on it (yes, I know JB is about to come out officially ) and I wanted to change some of the UI elements.
I installed the rom manager app by koush, but yet to use it because I saw that in the past that the phone wasn't supported.
My question is: Does ROM Manager support this phone? Can I go ahead and flash CWM on it from the rom manager app, and then use it to flash other roms?
If not, which is the best solution to backup and replace roms? ODIN?
Thanks,
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Other way to change roms is custom recovery. On GB TWRP, on JB CWM.
Sent from Galaxy S Advance
Thanks fro your quick reply!
And what about ROM Manager? Does it work in this device?
YMatrix said:
Thanks fro your quick reply!
And what about ROM Manager? Does it work in this device?
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I think it is not working. It is not supported. Way we install custom ROMs: download ROM zip, transfer to SD, then go to recovery and install it from there.
I checked TWRP supported devices list (tried to link it but forum wont allow new users to link ) and I don't see the galaxy advance S on their list either.
Is there a special mod version for this device?
And another question, if installed, will this wipe the current phone data or just the recovery loader? Since I want to backup my current ROM (+ contacts, settings etc.) before doing anything sketchy...
YMatrix said:
I checked TWRP supported devices list (tried to link it but forum wont allow new users to link ) and I don't see the galaxy advance S on their list either.
Is there a special mod version for this device?
And another question, if installed, will this wipe the current phone data or just the recovery loader? Since I want to backup my current ROM (+ contacts, settings etc.) before doing anything sketchy...
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You have GB? Look here.
On I9070 recovery is on the same partition as kernel. So it can't be installed separatly. It is ported. You need to install this kernel, or CoCore. If you install with Odin - you will increase binary counter. For installation with ADB shell, or Terminal emulator (app from market) you need root - and it will not increase bc.
So I am guessing I will use the dd command line way since it doesn't increase the binary counter (why would we want to do that ).
Is it possible to backup the current ROM before flashing it with the TWRP modified ROM?
And another thing, since I will be using other ROMs, how can i add the TWRP recovery loader to them (you said that the recovery is on the same partition as the kernel, making me believe that each ROM I load will need to have TWRP on it)?
YMatrix said:
So I am guessing I will use the dd command line way since it doesn't increase the binary counter (why would we want to do that ).
Is it possible to backup the current ROM before flashing it with the TWRP modified ROM?
And another thing, since I will be using other ROMs, how can i add the TWRP recovery loader to them (you said that the recovery is on the same partition as the kernel, making me believe that each ROM I load will need to have TWRP on it)?
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No, only JetMOD have embendend kernel too. And it have TWRP.
Hm, another thing. You better use non binary counter increaing root method. But it need you to flash whole firmware with Odin. And maybe you loose data. But if you do not do factory reset - it will be ok.
Sorry, I didn't understand your last post.
YMatrix said:
Sorry, I didn't understand your last post.
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If you want to get TWRP with dd command you need to root your phone first.
There are 2 root methods. One that increase binary counter, and one that do not..
With one that do not increase - you need to flash whole firmware with Odin. And by doing that you might need to do factory reset. That will cause your data and app delete. You can try to boot, maybe it will be ok.
Oh, I already said I have a rooted device, so this wont be an issue.
What I asked was:
1) If I can backup my current ROM before installing the TWRP ROM you linked (in case something goes wrong).
2) When I install other modified ROMs, will they override the TWRP I installed, or just change the kernel system leaving TWRP in the recovery?
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YMatrix said:
Oh, I already said I have a rooted device, so this wont be an issue.
What I asked was:
1) If I can backup my current ROM before installing the TWRP ROM you linked (in case something goes wrong).
2) When I install other modified ROMs, will they override the TWRP I installed, or just change the kernel system leaving TWRP in the recovery?
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Didn't pay attention.
You have backup option in TWRP, and you can restore it.
Custom roms do not have connection with kernel, just JetMod who do have kernel with TWRP too.
P.S. lol you confuse me. TWRP is kernel related, nothing to do with ROM.
When you want stock kernel back, just flash your firmware from sammobile.com.
So you need to change kernel to get TWRP. And with TWRP you do backup of system.
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Bos manForu
Hmmmm, now I am a little confused.
Since I don't want to touch the kernel (yet), all I want to do is change the ROM (as in UI changes etc...).
I wanted to backup my current ROM and then load other ROMS.
I started off with ROM Manager because it seemed to answer what I wanted to do, but as you said ROM Manager doesn't support this phone and we went from there to TWRP.
Since I now get that TWRP is kernel related only and not ROM management, what would you advise right now for:
1) Backing up the current ROM
2) Loading other ROMs to the device?
YMatrix said:
Hmmmm, now I am a little confused.
Since I don't want to touch the kernel (yet), all I want to do is change the ROM (as in UI changes etc...).
I wanted to backup my current ROM and then load other ROMS.
I started off with ROM Manager because it seemed to answer what I wanted to do, but as you said ROM Manager doesn't support this phone and we went from there to TWRP.
Since I now get that TWRP is kernel related only and not ROM management, what would you advise right now for:
1) Backing up the current ROM
2) Loading other ROMs to the device?
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You can do that only with TWRP.
And did you read ROM manager description?
* Flash your recovery to the latest and greatest ClockworkMod recovery.
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For ROM manager you need custom recovery. And for I9070 that is embended in kernel. Full stop.
And it is connected to CWM, not to TWRP. We do not have CWM for Android 2.3.6. ported.
P.S. So to close this:
- You can't do any backup, installation of ROMs without custom recovery (in our case TWRP) on our phone.
- Custom recovery couldn't be installed separatly - it is embended inside kernel file - and has nothing to do with ROM.
It is clear now?
I think I got you now
1) CWM doesn't work on my phone because the recovery is attached to the kernel.
2) In order for me to backup my ROM I need to install the kernel with TWRP embedded (the one you linked me).
3) I also can't backup my current kernel without TWRP so in order for me to have TWRP I will be doing #2 without any backup? I am guessing this is the part where bricking has a chance of occurrence?
YMatrix said:
I think I got you now
1) CWM doesn't work on my phone because the recovery is attached to the kernel.
2) In order for me to backup my ROM I need to install the kernel with TWRP embedded (the one you linked me).
3) I also can't backup my current kernel without TWRP so in order for me to have TWRP I will be doing #2 without any backup? I am guessing this is the part where bricking has a chance of occurrence?
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CWM = TWRP
Both are custom recoveryes. Not the same, but same purpose.
1) Our phone have same partition for kernel and recovery. So we can't install it separatly
2) You can backup kernel, but you will need Terminal emulator, and similiar command like instalation of other kernel
Code:
$ su
# dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p15 of=/sdcard/boot.bin
# reboot
This will backup your stock kernel on your sdcard. You can install it later this way (ofcourse if boot.bin file is on your sd)
Code:
$ su
# dd if=/sdcard/boot.bin of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p15
# reboot
You always can flash your stock kernel, Download mode do not have anything to do with kernel and recovery partition.
If this is little hard for you, just install custom kernel with TWRP. Or do not do anything. :laugh:
P.S. Trust me, you can't hard brick device with installing kernel. I am tester, and I flashed at least 10 non booting kernels, and 50+ booting ones.
I do trust you, just trying to get an understanding of how the things work on these devices.
So I now understand the backing up and flashing commands (I would like to know how you knew the mmcblk0p15 was the kernel partition for this phone), so where does the "Download mode" come in handy if u can flash directly from a terminal window?
If for some reason the flash wasn't successful, can you enter download mode and restore the backup you created?
YMatrix said:
I do trust you, just trying to get an understanding of how the things work on these devices.
So I now understand the backing up and flashing commands (I would like to know how you knew the mmcblk0p15 was the kernel partition for this phone), so where does the "Download mode" come in handy if u can flash directly from a terminal window?
If for some reason the flash wasn't successful, can you enter download mode and restore the backup you created?
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Most likely you will have to flash whole firmware if something goes wrong. I told you what I know.
And if you can go in TWRP recovery, it can restore krenel with other things you backed up. And you can flash new kernel in TWRP too.
Somewhere is written what partition is for what. I do not know that. And developers told us what partition is for kernel and recovery.
I do not think that that thing with restoring downlaod mode will work. Newer tried or heard of it.
I tried to explain you, but maybe I was little confusing. :angel: My english is not great, and I didn't provide 1, 2, 3... steps explanation. Like I throw everything to you. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
:laugh: More or less I understand you :laugh:
So to sum up:
1) Create a backup of the current kernel
2) Flash Stock Kernel + TWRP
if all goes well....
3) Create full phone phone backup from TWRP
4) flash custom ROMs (or kernels) with TWRP
Hows that?
YMatrix said:
:laugh: More or less I understand you :laugh:
So to sum up:
1) Create a backup of the current kernel
2) Flash Stock Kernel + TWRP
if all goes well....
3) Create full phone phone backup from TWRP
4) flash custom ROMs (or kernels) with TWRP
Hows that?
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That is ok.
And you backup old kernel that you can easy go back to stock one. Without flashing whole firmware, when you want stock. Like you want to go to service for warranty or something like that...
I tried what I was advised here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...pgrading-stubborn-software-t3228423?nocache=1
I can successfully flash it but Kit Kat still boots up every time. I don't know what to do. Maybe twrp? How do I do that.
May also be relevant that I cannot seem to boot into recovery to do the fixes after I flash. 4.4.2 stil comes up.
Cheers!
You could just use Odin to go back to stock, always worked for me. The only reason I could think that you could have problems is that you have a custom rom already that changes your build and model.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
If you need to install stock rom you need to make sure build number is N900AUCUCNC2 and then use odin to install .
If you need to install root rom install Towelroot from play store and make sure wifi or data network is on during root then install SuperSU
BusyBox (open BusyBox and install from inside ), "Safestrap-HLTEATT-NC2-3.75-B03" recovery from fourm put your prerooted rom in sd card open Safestrap and boot to recovery you will be able to install rooted rom from there .
Hi all!
I flashed my recovery to TWRP and ever since then, I always get stuck in bootloop no matter what custom ROM I try. Flashing back to stock rom via ODIN works.
It's been a while since I've tinkered with custom ROMs so I may be missing something. Any ideas on where to start?
joshbeoulve said:
Hi all!
I flashed my recovery to TWRP and ever since then, I always get stuck in bootloop no matter what custom ROM I try. Flashing back to stock rom via ODIN works.
It's been a while since I've tinkered with custom ROMs so I may be missing something. Any ideas on where to start?
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Hi,
Which phone ? i9305 or i9300 ?
Which version of TWRP do you use ?
You should try latest version of TWRP (2.8.7.3).
Or try Philz touch Recovery 6.48.4 or 6.59.
1.Repeat ODIN step to stock rom
2.Root the phone by kingroot (as it's doesn't required pc)
3.After rooting, Download Cwm rom manager
4.Install Cwm by selecting your phone model and etc
5.flash it directly from the apps
6.now you can flash any rom ( please backup your system for your safety)
This is a sum up of most resources I found online for Tab S2 9.7 LTE(T815/T815c) for those of you who don't want to find anymore
including ROM, ROOT, RECOVERY, XPOSED FRAMEWORK and KERNEL
ROM:
Original stock ROM, UNROOT and UNMODIFIED.
choose from here and download
Chinese special version ROM(T815c)
Download from Dropbox
Download from BaiduYun (for Chinese users) with password: tdfv
Flash with Odin
Open Odin, click AP and select the file above, then flash.
Also a website for sum up of modified ROMs, here
RECOVERY:
TWRP 3.0.0, download from here, flash with Odin with the same steps above.
ROOT:
Flash CF auto root with custom recoveries(like TWRP above), download from here
XPOSED FRAMEWORK:
Flash from here with custom recoveries, then install Xposed app to control the modules.
KERNEL:
Flash with Odin
PERMISSIVE KERNEL for normal T815 devices, here.
PERMISSIVE KERNEL for Chinese T815c devices, here.
Source, details and further issues, go to: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-s2/development/kernels-exynos-regular-permissive-t3523348
Please let me know if you have further problems, or directly go to the source pages for details.
Cheers!
Hi OP!
Thanks for this article, it really is helpful,but I have 2 questions about it:
if I want to use the linked "ROM: Original stock ROM, UNROOT and UNMODIFIED." on my rooted, TWRP recovery 815 device , I will have to unroot my device also have to install stock recovery beforehand, am I right? Because if I try to install it via Odin it will brick my Tab S2.
I am asking it, because it was more than half a year since I updated my Tab S2, because it has stock ROM on it, with TWRP and root and I didn't wanted to deal with everything before update (unroot, stock recovery, ROM install via odin, twrp install again, root again etc.), since there is not stock update that I could istall via TWRP unfortunately.
My other question is what is Chinese special version ROM(T815c)? Why is it special? I am European so I don't speak Chinese either, not to mention my device is the basic 815, not 815c.
Thanks.
NandorHUN Hi OP!
Thanks for this article, it really is helpful,but I have 2 questions about it:
if I want to use the linked "ROM: Original stock ROM, UNROOT and UNMODIFIED." on my rooted, TWRP recovery 815 device , I will have to unroot my device also have to install stock recovery beforehand, am I right? Because if I try to install it via Odin it will brick my Tab S2.
I am asking it, because it was more than half a year since I updated my Tab S2, because it has stock ROM on it, with TWRP and root and I didn't wanted to deal with everything before update (unroot, stock recovery, ROM install via odin, twrp install again, root again etc.), since there is not stock update that I could istall via TWRP unfortunately.
My other question is what is Chinese special version ROM(T815c)? Why is it special? I am European so I don't speak Chinese either, not to mention my device is the basic 815, not 815c.
Thanks.
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Hi, if you want to update your system to the latest version, I'm afraid in most of the cases you'll need to unroot at least unless your supersu has a recover OTA option in it, otherwise if you want to flash ROMs that I listed or other ROMs need to be flashed with Odin, you'll need to clear all the data in your device and flash, of course you can directly flash it without any wipe, but possibly something will go wrong. In your case if you only want to upgrade your system, you can find other ROMs here in xda and flash it with recovery, but even if you use recovery, there's no guarantee that nothing will go wrong without wiping anything. My suggestion is to backup your data first, and maybe find a recovery update package and directly flash it with recovery, no need to unroot or wipe other than Cache, but in case anything went wrong, you can use ROMs provided here and flash them with Odin to recovery your device, of course, if something went wrong, you'll have to wipe everything to do that.
About the Chinese version, if you don't use the T815c version, thedn you don't need to care about that, it's for Chinese buyers who bought the Chinese version.
Let me know if you have further questions.
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Hi, if you want to update your system to the latest version, I'm afraid in most of the cases you'll need to unroot at least unless your supersu has a recover OTA option in it, otherwise if you want to flash ROMs that I listed or other ROMs need to be flashed with Odin, you'll need to clear all the data in your device and flash, of course you can directly flash it without any wipe, but possibly something will go wrong. In your case if you only want to upgrade your system, you can find other ROMs here in xda and flash it with recovery, but even if you use recovery, there's no guarantee that nothing will go wrong without wiping anything. My suggestion is to backup your data first, and maybe find a recovery update package and directly flash it with recovery, no need to unroot or wipe other than Cache, but in case anything went wrong, you can use ROMs provided here and flash them with Odin to recovery your device, of course, if something went wrong, you'll have to wipe everything to do that.
About the Chinese version, if you don't use the T815c version, thedn you don't need to care about that, it's for Chinese buyers who bought the Chinese version.
Let me know if you have further questions.
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Thanks!
Could you send me a description how to unroot? After that I should flash the stock recovery via Odin and flash the ROM via Odin as well, am I right?
NandorHUN said:
Thanks!
Could you send me a description how to unroot? After that I should flash the stock recovery via Odin and flash the ROM via Odin as well, am I right?
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Actually what you should do is to wipe all the data in the phone and then flash the ROM, no need to unroot or flash recovery separately, wipe can do all that for you, of course if you don't want to wipe all the data, you can try and directly flash the ROM(it's risky but sometimes it also works perfectly), then if something went wrong, you can wipe the data and flash again to recover.
Jackz314 said:
Actually what you should do is to wipe all the data in the phone and then flash the ROM, no need to unroot or flash recovery separately, wipe can do all that for you, of course if you don't want to wipe all the data, you can try and directly flash the ROM(it's risky but sometimes it also works perfectly), then if something went wrong, you can wipe the data and flash again to recover.
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I did not know it should be that simple, I owned a HTC, LG and Huawei phones but in all of them I have to unroot and install the stock recovery.
Oh, ok. I should do a full Wipe with Odin? I know there's an opinion in TWRP too.