Help Please! Fire (FORD) Xposed - Fire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi All,
Not a Dev as such but have rooted and installed SlimLP on my Fire tablets.
Having trouble using some apps as they are detecting the root. Have looked into Xposed package and using the root cloak to solve these issues but can't find any info on whether my setup is supported or not and don't want to brick my devices.
What I have:
Device - Amazon Fire 5th Gen
Model - KFFOWI
Android Version - 5.1.1
Slim Version - slim-5.1.1.build.2.2-csolanol-20151210
All I want is to end up with both my devices running custom ROMs with the root cloaked, doesn't have to be SlimLP if it's not possible.
Any help would be appreciated on this. As I say I am not a Dev so won't understand technical jargon.
Thanks in Advance

Did your device have FireOS 5.0.1 on it before you flashed a custom rom? Aka can you load twrp recovery via fastboot.
If you have a 5.0.1 device then you should almost always be able to recovery from any issues.

I had 5.1.1 OS installed prior to flashing. I used RootJunkys supertool to root and used Flashfire to flash the rom.
Does this make a difference?

Chrisbonner89 said:
I had 5.1.1 OS installed prior to flashing. I used RootJunkys supertool to root and used Flashfire to flash the rom.
Does this make a difference?
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Does make a difference but is irrelevant to your concern. You can not effectively cloak root on any android rom. Yes, some techniques can obscure root from poorly coded apps but most are more intelligent and can easily detect if the device has 'elevated' permissions - including if usb debug is enabled. Savvy users can defeat some checks but it's a cat and mouse game at best.

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[Q] 2014 Kindle fire hd 7 (4th Gen) Root/Recovery? 1 month into the search

All,
I've been digging through the forums patiently for a month (12/25/14) looking at every root method listed and none have worked. Everything seems to be so dated and focused on 2012, 2013. I thought its time to ask for help. 2014 Kindle Fire HD7 (4th gen) fireOS 4.5.2. i own fastboot cable also.
KFASWI
Goal is AOSP roms.
I've gotten at least 10 ADB usb drivers and found one works newest version. Able to send ADB commands.
Kingo
Root with Restore bin4ry v36
VRoot 1.8.0.1245
Root master 1.3.6 (chinese)
towelroot
firerooter 0.3
kindlehd2013 root
root_script
QemuRoot v1.0
Anybody have a direction to look at?
LumberjackZac said:
All,
I've been digging through the forums patiently for a month (12/25/14) looking at every root method listed and none have worked. Everything seems to be so dated and focused on 2012, 2013. I thought its time to ask for help. 2014 Kindle Fire HD7 (4th gen) fireOS 4.5.2. i own fastboot cable also.
KFASWI
Goal is AOSP roms.
I've gotten at least 10 ADB usb drivers and found one works newest version. Able to send ADB commands.
Kingo
Root with Restore bin4ry v36
VRoot 1.8.0.1245
Root master 1.3.6 (chinese)
towelroot
firerooter 0.3
kindlehd2013 root
root_script
QemuRoot v1.0
Anybody have a direction to look at?
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which one is OK,I am waiting for ,too.
I just bought one of these tablets, and come to find out nothing I have will let the tablet talk to the laptop... none of the ADB drivers I have work. which sucks cuz I really wanted to put Google Books on this tablet so I could have all 3 apps working. (Kindle, Nook, Google Books)
Root achieved with kingroot. Not sure how much I trust the Chinese. But it's only for root. Now I just bricked my fire HD 7 4th gen trying to install xposed framework and I'm working on if I can adb the device back to life...
LumberjackZac said:
Root achieved with kingroot. Not sure how much I trust the Chinese. But it's only for root. Now I just bricked my fire HD 7 4th gen trying to install xposed framework and I'm working on if I can adb the device back to life...
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Can you provide details on how you rooted it? I have a Kindle Fire HD 7 running 4.5.3 and i've had no luck rooting it!
LumberjackZac said:
Root achieved with kingroot. Not sure how much I trust the Chinese. But it's only for root. Now I just bricked my fire HD 7 4th gen trying to install xposed framework and I'm working on if I can adb the device back to life...
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Hi,friend!!! i got a firmware for our device(only for mtk 8135),but I don't know how install it on device. Device just boot into recovery,but recovery just for hard reset and reboot...I think-need FLASHTOOL for MTK 8135,for installation recovery or reflashing...
sorry for my english
LumberjackZac said:
Root achieved with kingroot. Not sure how much I trust the Chinese. But it's only for root. Now I just bricked my fire HD 7 4th gen trying to install xposed framework and I'm working on if I can adb the device back to life...
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Say, how are you rooted it with kingroot? I have no luck with it.
IvKir said:
Say, how are you rooted it with kingroot? I have no luck with it.
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I just installed the latest king root apk and ran it. It seemed to succeed with giving root access.

Upgrade 5.1.1 to 5.1.2 with FlashFire

I have a rooted Kindle Fire 7 (2015) running 5.1.1. If I rename the OTA Device Update apks (or freeze them with App Quarantine/Freeze), can I upgrade to 5.1.2 with the .bin file using FlashFire? If so, what steps do I need to follow? Do I need to reflash the 5.0.1 bootloader, or will FlashFire prevent that from being affected?
rm68jsu said:
I have a rooted Kindle Fire 7 (2015) running 5.1.1. If I rename the OTA Device Update apks (or freeze them with App Quarantine/Freeze), can I upgrade to 5.1.2 with the .bin file using FlashFire? If so, what steps do I need to follow? Do I need to reflash the 5.0.1 bootloader, or will FlashFire prevent that from being affected?
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If you're running the 5.0.1 bootloaders and want to keep them, you can just use this to upgrade to 5.1.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/howto-install-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594
DoLooper said:
If you're running the 5.0.1 bootloaders and want to keep them, you can just use this to upgrade to 5.1.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/howto-install-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594
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Thanks! I had thought that following that process would work, but I was hoping that I could simplify it by using FlashFire.
Has anyone had any experience utilizing FlashFire to upgrade a rooted Fire to 5.1.2?
rm68jsu said:
Thanks! I had thought that following that process would work, but I was hoping that I could simplify it by using FlashFire.
Has anyone had any experience utilizing FlashFire to upgrade a rooted Fire to 5.1.2?
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Not a good idea. The 5.1.2 (any) package from Amazon is not designed to be flashed in this manner. Good chance the 5.0.1 bootloader/kernel would be replaced; might also brick the device. It is possible to parse out the various components from an Amazon distributable allowing just the rom (system partition) to be flashed but I don't see the point given other options exist.
UPDATE: never mind...I found a thread
I went through all of the steps of the longer method and it worked perfectly! Has anyone upgraded to 5.1.4 this way (the original, not FlashFire) and successfully kept root?

Can anyone give me the steps to going from a Fire 5th Gen with 5.1.4 to having CM?

Hi all
I've just bought a Fire Tablet on Amazon day with the intention of rooting it and installing CM, but I am a newbie and there's so much information on here it's kind of overwhelming, and most of it has a lot of "if this, then that, or if you want to use that, do this" type guides, which for someones who doesn't really know what all the different methods and options are is really confusing!
So can someone please tell me the step by step process for doing it?
From what I've read I think I have to downgrade to 5.1.2 of the OS as I can't root on 5.1.4? Is that correct?
So do I have to root before I do that? Or do I downgrade first and then root, and then install the CM?
If someone can list each of the steps I need to take to get it from a fresh new 5th Gen Fire 7 to having all the Amazon rubbish off and having it running CM, then I can look for the guides for each step!
Thanks, I hope that makes sense!
:angel:
PS: I've already bricked one by trying to downgrade to 5.1.1 because that wasn't apparent until it was too late, replacement on its way!
Yeah, I read the same thing and I bought it on Prime day. When's the 5.14 tool going to come out? I know, beggars... I really think it's silly to have to downgrade and risk bricking it when normal root for those OS versions don't have such a concern.
Bob Boblaw said:
Hi all
I've just bought a Fire Tablet on Amazon day with the intention of rooting it and installing CM, but I am a newbie and there's so much information on here it's kind of overwhelming, and most of it has a lot of "if this, then that, or if you want to use that, do this" type guides, which for someones who doesn't really know what all the different methods and options are is really confusing!
So can someone please tell me the step by step process for doing it?
From what I've read I think I have to downgrade to 5.1.2 of the OS as I can't root on 5.1.4? Is that correct?
So do I have to root before I do that? Or do I downgrade first and then root, and then install the CM?
If someone can list each of the steps I need to take to get it from a fresh new 5th Gen Fire 7 to having all the Amazon rubbish off and having it running CM, then I can look for the guides for each step!
Thanks, I hope that makes sense!
:angel:
PS: I've already bricked one by trying to downgrade to 5.1.1 because that wasn't apparent until it was too late, replacement on its way!
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I did the same thing, bought the tablet on prime day and was successfully able to root it and put the AOSP nexus rom
First things first make sure you have the 7-inch tablet for the following steps because apparently it only works with that specific model. Since this is my first post I can't post any links so sorry about that however, I have added the video title so that you can just google it and find the video.
Anything above fire os 5.1.2 ( that is 5.1.4, 5.1.3, 5.1.2.1) has to be downgraded to 5.1.2.
Also downgrading from 5.1.4 to 5.1.1 is going to give you a hard brick. I don't know how you didn't know that but it was clearly stated in the xda guide I was following
Basically you have to follow rootjunkys video and instead of using the file he uses in the video use the fire OS 5.1.2 file which is also available on his website.
Imortant: Do a factory reset before downgrading. I did not do that and the rooting process did not work.
Video title: How to Firmware Restore or Unbrick your Amazon Fire 5th gen Tablet
After you have fire OS 5.1.2 follow the rooting process shown in another rootjunky video
Video title: How to root the Amazon Fire 5th gen 7in on Fire OS 5 1 2 SuperTool Mac linux and Windows
Note: He shows how to do the whole process while using mac but it can be done on windows awell and the windows files are already present. Instead of using the .sh file and opening the terminal double click the .bat file and follow along.
You can use his SuperTool to put the play store app and fire flash app.
Note: For some reason fire flash was not working properly for me by using the SuperTool, so I just installed it from the google play store.
Now you should have rooted fire OS 5.1.2 along with superSU. Now with the fire flash app and you can download any rom that you want to flash. Follow the steps in the video for instructions
Video title: Amazon Fire 5th gen AOSP Nexus rom install with Flash Fire app
Hope this helps.
All credit to rootjunky
erikthebikeman said:
Yeah, I read the same thing and I bought it on Prime day. When's the 5.14 tool going to come out? I know, beggars... I really think it's silly to have to downgrade and risk bricking it when normal root for those OS versions don't have such a concern.
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It's not a matter of someone getting off their keister and whipping up a "tool" (presumably you are talking about root) that works with FireOS 5.1.4 or whatever the latest version is. Like many manufactures Amazon actively discourages rooting devices and attempt to block known exploits. It's a cat and mouse game. We may see a "tool" soon, much further down the road or never. Be happy you can root the device at all and be thankful for the individuals who unselfishly share their time and talents with the community.
Thanks nefarian.
The problem was that the guide I was referred to for getting CM onto it already assumed it had been rooted, and when I started googling and looking on the different guides on rootjunky there were so many coming from different angles but nothing giving the clear start to end steps for what I wanted to do, for a newbie it was very confusing. Plus in the guide I was following (a rootjunky one) he had an older version of the OS and the toolkit had different files/folders to what are in it now, so I guess at that time there was no mentioned of 5.1.4 and not being able to go back.
After thinking I needed to downgrade the OS I found the one for unbrinking and downgrading and did that fine to 5.1.2, but then when I tried the superkit it still said it was too new, so I tried to downgrade further, which is when I bricked it.
There was no mention of it on the video..... other than a bloody great overlay in the corner, which must have been added later on, and probably because I was tearing my hair out and getting confused I didn't spot it. That's my excuse anyway!
Thanks for your help, I'll have a go with the new one on Monday. So instead of trying to find an all in one guide, I need to find guide for the steps in this order;
1 - do a factory reset on the device (from the device settings, or do I need to do it in the bootloader settings?)
2 -downgrade to 5.1.2 (I should be able to do this now)
3 - root the device (and install supersu?)
4 - install CM
Then it should have full CM and none of the Amazon OS left.
I'm not missing any steps there am I?
Thanks again!
Bob Boblaw said:
Thanks nefarian.
The problem was that the guide I was referred to for getting CM onto it already assumed it had been rooted, and when I started googling and looking on the different guides on rootjunky there were so many coming from different angles but nothing giving the clear start to end steps for what I wanted to do, for a newbie it was very confusing. Plus in the guide I was following (a rootjunky one) he had an older version of the OS and the toolkit had different files/folders to what are in it now, so I guess at that time there was no mentioned of 5.1.4 and not being able to go back.
After thinking I needed to downgrade the OS I found the one for unbrinking and downgrading and did that fine to 5.1.2, but then when I tried the superkit it still said it was too new, so I tried to downgrade further, which is when I bricked it.
There was no mention of it on the video..... other than a bloody great overlay in the corner, which must have been added later on, and probably because I was tearing my hair out and getting confused I didn't spot it. That's my excuse anyway!
Thanks for your help, I'll have a go with the new one on Monday. So instead of trying to find an all in one guide, I need to find guide for the steps in this order;
1 - do a factory reset on the device (from the device settings, or do I need to do it in the bootloader settings?)
2 -downgrade to 5.1.2 (I should be able to do this now)
3 - root the device (and install supersu?)
4 - install CM
Then it should have full CM and none of the Amazon OS left.
I'm not missing any steps there am I?
Thanks again!
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- no need for a factory reset at any point; offers no benefit for what you are trying to accomplish.
- installation of SuperSU (replacing Kinguser and related Kingroot cruft) after rooting is highly recommended prior to using FlashFire or any other tool that messes with the system partition. The SuperTool can facilitate this otherwise ugly task.
- if you are struggling with RootJunky videos you should give serious consideration to the challenges of installing a custom rom. It doesn't get any easier going forward.
Thanks. I managed to root my Nvidia Shield TV fine so I should be able to do it, I just needed to be clear of the full process from start to finish, and as I wasn't starting from the beginning of the process that made it more confusing. The rootjunky videos are great, but when someone is saying you can use this or that or do this or that it's putting choices and variables in to the mix so it's not a straighforward step by step, and when the kits and the webpages shown on the videos have changed since they were made, for someone trying to piece the info together it takes a bit more time.
Maybe I should point out that I didn't look on here initially when I started trying to do it, I basically saw the fire on offer mentioned on a forum I use and someone said yeah, it's easy to root and get CM on if, just user this video, with the link to a rootjunky YouTube video which didn't mention the prerequisite of already having downgraded the OS (why would it) so in hindsight I didn't start at the right place or have the best information.
After reading through some stuff on here (and that's over whelming for a first timer as there is so much stuff on here for many, many devices and platforms - even just finding the Amazon fire sub forum on an iPad wasn't easy!) I'm getting a better idea for attempt two.
I'll get there, and at least I know how to not brick it now! :good:
OK, so making progress. I have downgraded the new one fine, it now has 5.1.2 of the Fire OS.
I've used rootjunkys supertool to root the device with Kingmaker, which then installed SuperSU, and I finally uninstalled Kingmaker/Purity.
So I now have a rooted Fire, which is great. I have also installed the Google Play store, disabled OTA updates and removed ads from the lock screen. But I don't want the Amazon OS on it (pretty fugly isn't it!), so the next step, flashing it with CM.
What guide would be best for a Fire with 5.1.2 on it? When I look at the Rootjunkys guide for installing CM on the Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dwguHoxTvo&feature=youtu.be) the super tool kit does differ, and the one I downloaded from his link only has the tool for doing it for OS 5.0.1, so it won't let me boot into TWRP recovery. What would be the best tools/guide/method to use for installing CM onto a Fire with 5.1.2?
Thanks
Bob Boblaw said:
OK, so making progress. I have downgraded the new one fine, it now has 5.1.2 of the Fire OS.
I've used rootjunkys supertool to root the device with Kingmaker, which then installed SuperSU, and I finally uninstalled Kingmaker/Purity.
So I now have a rooted Fire, which is great. I have also installed the Google Play store, disabled OTA updates and removed ads from the lock screen. But I don't want the Amazon OS on it (pretty fugly isn't it!), so the next step, flashing it with CM.
What guide would be best for a Fire with 5.1.2 on it? When I look at the Rootjunkys guide for installing CM on the Fire (
&feature=youtu.be) the super tool kit does differ, and the one I downloaded from his link only has the tool for doing it for OS 5.0.1, so it won't let me boot into TWRP recovery. What would be the best tools/guide/method to use for installing CM onto a Fire with 5.1.2?
Thanks
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- Kingroot/Purify, not Kingmaker/Purity
- I can't think of a better suite of guides than the videos produced by RootJunky
- use FlashFire 0.51 to install (flash) the rom of your choice
- OP for Nexus rom has video link and and basic FlashFire guidance
- get over the minor variations in the language/tools used to support this device between the making of videos and the latest release.
Bob Boblaw said:
OK, so making progress. I have downgraded the new one fine, it now has 5.1.2 of the Fire OS.
I've used rootjunkys supertool to root the device with Kingmaker, which then installed SuperSU, and I finally uninstalled Kingmaker/Purity.
So I now have a rooted Fire, which is great. I have also installed the Google Play store, disabled OTA updates and removed ads from the lock screen. But I don't want the Amazon OS on it (pretty fugly isn't it!), so the next step, flashing it with CM.
What guide would be best for a Fire with 5.1.2 on it? When I look at the Rootjunkys guide for installing CM on the Fire (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dwguHoxTvo&feature=youtu.be) the super tool kit does differ, and the one I downloaded from his link only has the tool for doing it for OS 5.0.1, so it won't let me boot into TWRP recovery. What would be the best tools/guide/method to use for installing CM onto a Fire with 5.1.2?
Thanks
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1. Get the CM rom and put it in the tablet from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-cm-12-1-2015-11-15-t3249416
2. Install FlashFire 0.51 from play store or use the SuperTool
3. Follow the video instructions and instead of the nexus rom use the CM rom you downloaded:
Thanks guys. All going well. CM12 is now installed using that Nexus guide. However, because he used Nexus the Play store was installed by default, which CM12 doesn't have.
Looking here - https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps#Installation - I need to download Google Apps and install it, but which package for the Fire 7 5th gen? There are a number of variants to choose from. Looks like using twrp it would have been a pico one, but as it's a new OS a different one is needed?
So it's ARM device, Android 5.1 and Nano variant?
That gives me a zip file, but I can't work out how to install it. The videos I've found all have it as being installed as part of the OS installation via twrp. Should I have installed gapps when I installed the CM12.1 OS, or can I still install it later?
When I go into the boot menu the only install option is to apply update from ADB, wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache partition, reboot to bootloader or power down/reboot.
I tried to use apply update from ADB and did "adb sideload gapps-filename.zip" but it failed to complete the install and went back to the boot menu.
What do I need to do to get Play Store on there?
Thanks again
Bob Boblaw said:
Thanks guys. All going well. CM12 is now installed using that Nexus guide. However, because he used Nexus the Play store was installed by default, which CM12 doesn't have.
Looking here - https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps#Installation - I need to download Google Apps and install it, but which package for the Fire 7 5th gen? There are a number of variants to choose from. Looks like using twrp it would have been a pico one, but as it's a new OS a different one is needed?
So it's ARM device, Android 5.1 and Nano variant?
That gives me a zip file, but I can't work out how to install it. The videos I've found all have it as being installed as part of the OS installation via twrp. Should I have installed gapps when I installed the CM12.1 OS, or can I still install it later?
When I go into the boot menu the only install option is to apply update from ADB, wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache partition, reboot to bootloader or power down/reboot.
I tried to use apply update from ADB and did "adb sideload gapps-filename.zip" but it failed to complete the install and went back to the boot menu.
What do I need to do to get Play Store on there?
Thanks again
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Reinstall FlashFire 0.51 (here) on CM 12.1 then use it to flash the GAapps package. Agree with your selection: ARM/5.1/nano.
Ah, great, thank you, yep, that's got it on there.
Excellent! All modded and running very quickly! Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate the patience.
Not much space on these Fire's is there, it's already telling me it's low on space and I've only installed MediaMonkey!
Two more quick questions and I'll leave you alone....!
Is it possible to have the SD card to be used as combined storage? For example, my Shield TV lets me 'add' the SD card to the main storage so it sees it all as one instead of a second removable device, so can install apps on it, etc. If this possible with Cyanogenmod? (Not sure what you'd call that feature to search for it!) Thankfully the main reason I bought it was to help manage my music with MediaMonkey so I won't be installing lots on it, but if it is possible it would be useful.
Second, with regard to OS updates on CM, are they automated or do they need to be done manually (and, if so, with care?)
Thanks again!
Bob Boblaw said:
Two more quick questions and I'll leave you alone....!
Is it possible to have the SD card to be used as combined storage?
Second, with regard to OS updates on CM, are they automated or do they need to be done manually ...
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Short answer: 'yes'. There are various approaches to utilizing SD cards for app installation/storage each with pros, cons and compromises. I highly recommend using a tool that leverages 'symbolic links' which is by far the most reliable method. An example is Link2SD which you can find in the Play Store.
All custom roms for this device are updated manually via FlaahFire or TWRP (if available). Instructions can usually be found in the OP.
@Bob Boblaw
did you open up the file manager and install the flashfire.apk? I am on the same problem you had on your post #11, but my problem I ran into now is flash fire says "root access could not be acquired" otherwise this would be a easy to do.
I think I might have to reinstall everything and start over. >_<
Yes, I copied it over via USB and installed it from the file manager. Do you have root enabled in the developer settings, I enabled it for adb and apps.
Bob Boblaw said:
Yes, I copied it over via USB and installed it from the file manager. Do you have root enabled in the developer settings, I enabled it for adb and apps.
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Yes! Thank you, that is what I had missed plus I didn't reboot my device so took like 15mins trying to figure out why it wasn't still working.
Glad you got it working ! :good:
Great post guys!! I am getting ready to root my fire OS 5.1.4 and this helps me greatly! Been searching for a downgrade guide and this is it! Have one question is Cm only recovery program or is there a TWRP version for this ? I would think that lastest TWRP would work since its all android but have to ask .I like TWRP myself cause i have it on rooted tablets
thunderman98 said:
Great post guys!! I am getting ready to root my fire OS 5.1.4 and this helps me greatly! Been searching for a downgrade guide and this is it! Have one question is Cm only recovery program or is there a TWRP version for this ? I would think that lastest TWRP would work since its all android but have to ask .I like TWRP myself cause i have it on rooted tablets
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You can not boot/install/use twrp on this device unless running FireOS 5.0.1 or lower. Nor can you rollback to any version below 5.1.2 without bricking the device. FlashFire is the tool of choice for installing roms and performing other maintenance tasks that are typically done in a custom recovery environment.

5.1.1 - double checking my options

I more or less understand the differences between versions and the install process, but I wanted to double check some things..
I just bought a Fire 7 2015 with 5.1.1 on it. I've used SuperTool to root and all its other functions. I want to install a custom ROM. There's detailed information about 5.0.x and 5.1.2+, but 5.1.1 seems like an odd duck.
- What is the difference between 5.1.1 and 5.1.2? Aside from the system, does it have a different bootloader and recovery?
- 5.1..1 doesn't allow modifying the bootloader or recovery, right? Not even temp booting TWRP? So, is the recovery same as 5.1.2?
- So without TWRP, I have to use FlashFire on 5.1.1?
- To revert back to stock FW, I can sideload 5.1.1, right? I don't have to sideload 5.1.2?
- Any comments on a ROM? I've used CM and AOSP before, but never Slim. There is varying information regarding which ROMS can be used on which Fire versions.
TIA.
mageus said:
I more or less understand the differences between versions and the install process, but I wanted to double check some things..
I just bought a Fire 7 2015 with 5.1.1 on it. I've used SuperTool to root and all its other functions. I want to install a custom ROM. There's detailed information about 5.0.x and 5.1.2+, but 5.1.1 seems like an odd duck.
- What is the difference between 5.1.1 and 5.1.2? Aside from the system, does it have a different bootloader and recovery?
- 5.1..1 doesn't allow modifying the bootloader or recovery, right? Not even temp booting TWRP? So, is the recovery same as 5.1.2?
- So without TWRP, I have to use FlashFire on 5.1.1?
- To revert back to stock FW, I can sideload 5.1.1, right? I don't have to sideload 5.1.2?
- Any comments on a ROM? I've used CM and AOSP before, but never Slim. There is varying information regarding which ROMS can be used on which Fire versions.
TIA.
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5.1.1 can be easily upgraded to 5.1.2. The 5.1.1 bootloaders do not offer any good stuff (no TWRP), so not clear why keep them (other than hoping for the bugs found in the future). At this point prob only a few people have 5.1.1, so not much work would go into trying to hack 5.1.1 bootloaders specifically
Btw, I can easily add a package for preserving 5.1.1 bootloaders, if there is any demand ... See this post :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/howto-install-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594
with 5.1.1 you can easily gain temporary root
fastboot oem append-cmdline "androidboot.unlocked_kernel=true"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/root-t3272362
Kramar111 said:
with 5.1.1 you can easily gain temporary root
fastboot oem append-cmdline "androidboot.unlocked_kernel=true"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/root-t3272362
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So sounds like one should try to keep it !
mageus said:
I more or less understand the differences between versions and the install process, but I wanted to double check some things..
I just bought a Fire 7 2015 with 5.1.1 on it. I've used SuperTool to root and all its other functions. I want to install a custom ROM. There's detailed information about 5.0.x and 5.1.2+, but 5.1.1 seems like an odd duck.
TIA.
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Kramar111 said:
with 5.1.1 you can easily gain temporary root
fastboot oem append-cmdline "androidboot.unlocked_kernel=true"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/root-t3272362
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I've updated the post, it's possible now to keep 5.1.1 bootloaders if desired :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/howto-install-fireos-5-1-1-root-gapps-t3265594
I started with 5.1.1 used slim ROM since then flashed with flashfire and never looked back haven't updated because I haven't encountered any bugs I couldn't fix on my own and battery life has been respectable under the hood I don't know the difference I know it runs to perfection and that's what I wanted
PS. I want to thank the developers for their hard work on this device is the only device I've been happy with and didn't go on a flash spree to find something i like
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mageus said:
... but I wanted to double check some things..
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bibikalka said:
So sounds like one should try to keep it !
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Sometimes a stupid question is worthwhile, eh?
Thanx for the clarifications. What everyone has said makes sense. I installed CM12, which works great. I'll stay with the 5.1.1 bl/recov for now since FlashFire works so well, and there's a temp-root option.

hey. i messed up an update to my fire and now i'm stuck...

hi guys. I was running the Nexus fire Rom using flashfire. its was on 5.1.2. I tried to flash the new updated version from this year of nexus fire from a clean wipe and now I dont have play store or anything. i cant remember the intial root process...its been while. I'm a little fuzzy as to how everything work cuz of the locked bootloader.
I dont have play store. i tried to side load flashfire into my downloads from pc but it wont show. it say dowloads empty. i literally have clock, calculator, downloads, settings and SU. i dunno what to do at this point. why arent the apks showing in downloads? any help is apprecaited. sad to see there is no real root yet..
havikx said:
hi guys. I was running the Nexus fire Rom using flashfire. its was on 5.1.2. I tried to flash the new updated version from this year of nexus fire from a clean wipe and now I dont have play store or anything. i cant remember the intial root process...its been while. I'm a little fuzzy as to how everything work cuz of the locked bootloader.
I dont have play store. i tried to side load flashfire into my downloads from pc but it wont show. it say dowloads empty. i literally have clock, calculator, downloads, settings and SU. i dunno what to do at this point. why arent the apks showing in downloads? any help is apprecaited. sad to see there is no real root yet..
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There is "real" root on FireOS 5.1.2. Best option is to sideload (reinstall) that build of FireOS via stock recovery then use the SuperTool to root and prepare your device for installation of Nexus. Going through that process will refresh your memory. A few tips:
- be sure to get the 5.1.2 binary; no higher/lower
- don't register with Amazon on initial boot
- keep off WiFi to avoid forced OTA update to an unrootable FireOS build
- be sure to flash the version of Nexus ROM that includes GAaps; you likely used the ROM only variant on your last refresh attempt
Davey126 said:
There is "real" root on FireOS 5.1.2. Best option is to sideload (reinstall) that build of FireOS via stock recovery then use the SuperTool to root and prepare your device for installation of Nexus. Going through that process will refresh your memory. A few tips:
- be sure to get the 5.1.2 binary; no higher/lower
- don't register with Amazon on initial boot
- keep off WiFi to avoid forced OTA update to an unrootable FireOS build
- be sure to flash the version of Nexus ROM that includes GAaps; you likely used the ROM only variant on your last refresh attempt
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now that you mention, thats probably exactly what i forgot to do. Also, i'm on 5.1.1. My bad. As far as i know, 5.1.1 system still has that locked bootloader preventing android upgrades. Though I havent kept up with development too much. Ill get started on returning to stock and rerooting. Hope this little tablet get a breakthru in the near future!
ok, so i sideloaded flashfire thru ADB and decided to switch over to lineage. thanks for your help. easier than returning to stock.
havikx said:
ok, so i sideloaded flashfire thru ADB and decided to switch over to lineage. thanks for your help. easier than returning to stock.
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Agreed. The technique you used doesn't work for everyone; hence my generic 'return-to-stock and redo everything' guidance. Glad you are back in business with minimum fuss.

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