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I dont know what the deal with it. I downloaded juice defender and nothing has changed.
I unplugged it from charge today at 6.20am as of now (10.20am) I have %79 battery left. 5 mins (if that) web surfing on 3g, 10 txts and 3mins of voice...
This is just ridiculous. If I was a moderate user I will have no juice by 2pm
I dont get it??
I have cyanogen mod 5.0.7.1 with oc'ed kernel. Screen brightness is about %20-%25 and it times out in 1 min. It syncs every 2 hours.
Try Enom's official ROM. I get nearly twice the battery life on that than on cyanogen.
OC-ed kernel and looking for battery efficiency?
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OC-ed kernel and looking for battery efficiency?
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No need to be smart about it. My buddy has the same rom and with moderate usage he gets 24 hrs of battery life. And also, It down clocks to 245mhz when it is not in use.
Well, you've answered yourself - if the ROM is the same, you have 3 options: faulty battery, faulty HW, or different apps installed and one of them draining your battery.
You can test the battery by switching batteries with your buddy, and you can check the apps by doing Nandroid backup, wiping everything and monitoring the phone battery drain, possibly even comparing logs of switched off devices (yours and your buddy's). In case you'll keep seeing significant difference - there will be no other way but to assume your HW is faulty. In case your battery is ok and wiping helps - install apps one by one and monitor, to find the rogue one.
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No need to be smart about it. My buddy has the same rom and with moderate usage he gets 24 hrs of battery life. And also, It down clocks to 245mhz when it is not in use.
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24 hours.... I cannot make it through an 8 hour work day.... sure I use the phone, but that is the point of it... I went to bed at 100% woke up at 94%... pretty big drop for sleep mode.... this screen and hardware, you will not get great battery life without tweaks, IMO.... (or just do not use it)
everytime i use cyanogen 507 i ALWAYS get poor battery life. i switch back to stock ROM and its better. i really dont know why that would be like that though...
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24 hours.... I cannot make it through an 8 hour work day.... sure I use the phone, but that is the point of it... I went to bed at 100% woke up at 94%... pretty big drop for sleep mode.... this screen and hardware, you will not get great battery life without tweaks, IMO.... (or just do not use it)
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oh wow, u r worse than me dang.
Mr.Kakarot said:
24 hours.... I cannot make it through an 8 hour work day.... sure I use the phone, but that is the point of it... I went to bed at 100% woke up at 94%... pretty big drop for sleep mode.... this screen and hardware, you will not get great battery life without tweaks, IMO.... (or just do not use it)
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psh i took a nap one night (maybe a 3 or 4 hour nap), left my battery at i would guess 20-30 percent and when i woke up, i wanted to check my tweets so i hit the home button, come to find out its dead O_O
I see 2.5-3.5%/hr here.. No Facebook or Twitter syncing, but Google cal/contat sync, K9 IMAP Push email, weather updating, some other misc stuff...
CLEARLY something is wrong... Have you guys run System Panel or something to monitor the processes running to make sure something isn't driving the CPU all the time or something?
Do your phones get warm? Mine stays ice cold if it's outside of my pocket at home or at my desk at work, 73ish degrees F/23 C.
What about when you first load a ROM and the setup wizard has a checkmark next to Data collection by Google? Could that be it?
You should check the "Other Usage" section of the Battery History (in Spare Parts). See if your phone is sleeping at all. If the awake time is 100%, then something is keeping it awake, so check the "Partial wake usage" to see which app is doing that.
going from 100% to 94% while you sleep overnight seems pretty normal to me. certainly doesnt seem "bad".
definitely use system panel to see what's using your CPU. in monitoring, history, plot, top apps.
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I see 2.5-3.5%/hr here.. No Facebook or Twitter syncing, but Google cal/contat sync, K9 IMAP Push email, weather updating, some other misc stuff...
CLEARLY something is wrong... Have you guys run System Panel or something to monitor the processes running to make sure something isn't driving the CPU all the time or something?
Do your phones get warm? Mine stays ice cold if it's outside of my pocket at home or at my desk at work, 73ish degrees F/23 C.
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I'm brand new to the nexus and android, I am not gonna lie....not sure what I am doing or how to tweak/take advantage of the software. Yet I unlocked and rooted anyway, lol. Any help or advice always appreciated.
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You should check the "Other Usage" section of the Battery History (in Spare Parts). See if your phone is sleeping at all. If the awake time is 100%, then something is keeping it awake, so check the "Partial wake usage" to see which app is doing that.
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I don't see these options in spare parts?
sti-06 said:
I dont know what the deal with it. I downloaded juice defender and nothing has changed.
I unplugged it from charge today at 6.20am as of now (10.20am) I have %79 battery left. 5 mins (if that) web surfing on 3g, 10 txts and 3mins of voice...
This is just ridiculous. If I was a moderate user I will have no juice by 2pm
I dont get it??
I have cyanogen mod 5.0.7.1 with oc'ed kernel. Screen brightness is about %20-%25 and it times out in 1 min. It syncs every 2 hours.
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well some of this is going to be common sense, but today I turned off 3g (use 2 g networks only), wifi and the gps, I turned off live wall paper and I turned my brightness from auto to 40% (which, you cannot even tell the difference... the phone is still well lit). I turned on wifi or 3g when I wanted to check something.... and then turned it off.... today was not a super busy day on the phone.. but at the end of the work day... I had 60% of my battery left.... it is usually around 10-15%... I got the ideas from this site
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=574d6cee673440ab&hl=en
hope it helps. Don't really need all the blind when not using the phone!
hi guys
i have abattery drain in idle like 4% for hour even with 3g ,wifi,and all stuff off
some one told to send my device back ,and i want to chack with you last time what you say.
even when my phone power off i lose battery ,before few days i was left him with 64% and power off for 24 hours when i power on i was on 6 %
i want you to chack my karnel wacklocks , and sensor
wait for your answers tnx alot
The Same Issue here
Help Plz
Your wake locks look just fine....
So it's losing battery when it's completely off? That doesn't sound right at all
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Squirrel1620 said:
Your wake locks look just fine....
So it's losing battery when it's completely off? That doesn't sound right at all
Sent from my Tricked out HTC One
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yep even when the phone power off i lose battery
That doesn't sound right. I was getting quite a lot of battery drain during screen off/sleep, not as much as you mind, but I disabled Google maps, installed a third party navigation app and tuned Google location settings off and pow...I'm on my second day without charging and still on 50% battery! Really has made a big difference. And the third party nav app works offline so no data usage.
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That doesn't sound right. I was getting quite a lot of battery drain during screen off/sleep, not as much as you mind, but I disabled Google maps, installed a third party navigation app and tuned Google location settings off and pow...I'm on my second day without charging and still on 50% battery! Really has made a big difference. And the third party nav app works offline so no data usage.
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i dont think this will work for me ,what you think about the sensor wakelocks?
Mine look exactly like that. I don't know why audio_out needs a wake lock, but it does. I get about 2% drain per hour though. Really do try disabling the location services. That uses a lot of battery.
aooga said:
Mine look exactly like that. I don't know why audio_out needs a wake lock, but it does. I get about 2% drain per hour though. Really do try disabling the location services. That uses a lot of battery.
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hi man
does your sensor and karnel waklocks look like this?
i had the problem with audio_out4 before and factory reset fix it
before he workd like servel hours now its 14 min that i play agame
if you can upload some photos please
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What's your CPU bin number ?
Look at the file /proc/last_kmsg
search for where it says something like [0.602014] c0 1 acpuclk-8064 acpuclk-8064: ACPU PVS: 5
That PVS number is your CPU bin number quality. 0 is the lowest (bad quality & high drain) and 6 is the highest (best quality & reduced drain)
If you've got a PVS 0,1,2 or maybe 3 you should consider going and swapping the phone with your provider.
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What's your CPU bin number ?
Look at the file /proc/last_kmsg
search for where it says something like [0.602014] c0 1 acpuclk-8064 acpuclk-8064: ACPU PVS: 5
That PVS number is your CPU bin number quality. 0 is the lowest (bad quality & high drain) and 6 is the highest (best quality & reduced drain)
If you've got a PVS 0,1,2 or maybe 3 you should consider going and swapping the phone with your provider.
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where can i find this file?
i am on stock not root
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where can i find this file?
i am on stock not root
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It's in the /proc directory. You'll need to be rooted to access it afaik sorry
more help guys tnx
This is the second thread this OP has started about the same issue. He refuses to accept that he can't achieve 0% battery loss when the phone is idle or even powered off. I really don't know what we can do for him... :/
See his original thread.
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So it's losing battery when it's completely off? That doesn't sound right at all
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Actually, this is quite correct. No battery technology to date retains charge forever--the physics simply aren't there. As a battery ages, it will deplete if it is not fed a constant charge. Now, I'll grant you that this depletion is VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY SLOW, but it's still there. My Droid RAZR MAXX would be incredibly low on battery in about 4 days even completely turned off.
EDIT: Re-reading the OP's post here, I noticed he cites that he lost alot of battery while the phone was "powered off" for 24hrs. Likely, I suspect he had "Fast Boot" mode turned on, which actually puts the phone into a hibernate mode rather than actually powering it down completely. These are not the same thing.
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This is the second thread this OP has started about the same issue. He refuses to accept that he can't achieve 0% battery loss when the phone is idle or even powered off. I really don't know what we can do for him... :/
See his original thread.
Actually, this is quite correct. No battery technology to date retains charge forever--the physics simply aren't there. As a battery ages, it will deplete if it is not fed a constant charge. Now, I'll grant you that this depletion is VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY SLOW, but it's still there. My Droid RAZR MAXX would be incredibly low on battery in about 4 days even completely turned off.
EDIT: Re-reading the OP's post here, I noticed he cites that he lost alot of battery while the phone was "powered off" for 24hrs. Likely, I suspect he had "Fast Boot" mode turned on, which actually puts the phone into a hibernate mode rather than actually powering it down completely. These are not the same thing.
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in my first thread it was audio_out4 that wacklocs and i did factory reast and its good now now its not the same issue
its just to know what you think hardware or softwere
tnx for your answers
Hey I have just bought HTC One 2 days ago. Compared to my old Sensation XE battery life completly sucks. I usually use phone without battery saver, on auto brightness and with Wi-Fi/3g turned on only on demand. Today 8 hours after unplugging phone from the charger I only have 26%. Screen was turned on for 2 hours and 45 minutes only and Wi-Fi worked for 3 hours and 46 mins. I might also say that I did not charge my One before usage to 100% as HTC advised. Was that very crucial? Do you think that phone might be broken or I should just give him time to settle baterry better.
That's sounds like what I get. I turn off mobile data when using WiFi and vice versa. I always use power saver unless I'm 3D gaming. Which is only on the weekends.
I've had mine for 3 months now.
I've seen people get 7:00 screen time on stock unrooted.
I think my battery's broken too. I can barely reach 3 hours of screen time. With 2 hours I get like 11 maybe 12 hours of on time. Something's wrong with our phones...
Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Does anyone see a problem with my battery I have been on wifi the whole time with brightness at 20%.I never had this bad of a drain before and all I did was look at facebook for maybe 5 minutes.I also closed the app after I was done using it.
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Does anyone see a problem with my battery I have been on wifi the whole time with brightness at 20%.I never had this bad of a drain before and all I did was look at facebook for maybe 5 minutes.I also closed the app after I was done using it.
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Your battery stats seem on par with me and the OP. Seems that only a select few phones get decent battery life.
My kernel (android os) has been in the 25-35% range,it has never been that high before.
battery life lousy
I get pretty horrible drain too. I charged it to nearly full around 7:30 last night. I took about 2 minutes of video, sent one text, and checked my email 3 times. After that I went to sleep and the phone sat idle. At 6:30 this morning, I'm down to 9%.
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I get pretty horrible drain too. I charged it to nearly full around 7:30 last night. I took about 2 minutes of video, sent one text, and checked my email 3 times. After that I went to sleep and the phone sat idle. At 6:30 this morning, I'm down to 9%.
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Wow, that's real bad.. When my phone is off during night maybe 7% is gone. Then again I'm rooted and use greenify aswell as battery doctor if that has any affect.
On screen time seems like my battery drains pretty fast too though. After 2 hours of music and surfing and watching videos I guess atleast 40% would be gone.
My battery life became horrible, too. My phones loses 4% per unused hour. No App seems to be responsible for that drain. Flightmode or powersaving mode ain't making a difference. I hope we'll find a solution for our drain.
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My battery life became horrible, too. My phones loses 4% per unused hour. No App seems to be responsible for that drain. Flightmode or powersaving mode ain't making a difference. I hope we'll find a solution for our drain.
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need pics of BBS on kernel wakelocks / partial wakelocks / alarms. then i can give you a general idea of whats going on.
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need pics of BBS on kernel wakelocks / partial wakelocks / alarms. then i can give you a general idea of whats going on.
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Here are the screenshots. I really hope you can help me
EDIT: oh, I forgot to change the language.. On the first screenshot is Google-Dienste = Google Services. The rest is in English.
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need pics of BBS on kernel wakelocks / partial wakelocks / alarms. then i can give you a general idea of whats going on.
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Here's my screenshots...
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Here's my screenshots...
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@Racingmatt your power management services is on for quite a bit. do you have alarms.? i would bet that you either that maps location enabled or something of the sort. cause you also have NLPcollector on for around 40 minutes which is a bit much. also i would turn off GPS if your not actively using it.
@Rachorid how are you setting up your wifi? is it set to always be on? or set to turn off when screen off? you have alot of wifi wake. might be due to that. i know when i'm at home my wifi actively pings all devices connected which will force wake up my phone. yea its a bit annoying but i live with it. otherwise i just keep my phone plugged in.
if you both can get some SS of alarms i can give you a better idea. and when you SS the alarms make sure to click on the ones with the most wake lock so i can see the secondary screen that shows what the actual wakelock command is happening.
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@Rachorid how are you setting up your wifi? is it set to always be on? or set to turn off when screen off? you have alot of wifi wake. might be due to that. i know when i'm at home my wifi actively pings all devices connected which will force wake up my phone. yea its a bit annoying but i live with it. otherwise i just keep my phone plugged in.
if you both can get some SS of alarms i can give you a better idea. and when you SS the alarms make sure to click on the ones with the most wake lock so i can see the secondary screen that shows what the actual wakelock command is happening.
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Here are the latest stats. As you can see many Google wakes.. removing Maps/Now/GMail/turning of Location (a few days ago) had no impact on my drain. The 2nd app on Partial Wakelocks was used actively.
I also disabled Wifi for about 2 hours.. no impact, too. Flightmode also had no impact (a few days ago).
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@Racingmatt your power management services is on for quite a bit. do you have alarms.? i would bet that you either that maps location enabled or something of the sort. cause you also have NLPcollector on for around 40 minutes which is a bit much. also i would turn off GPS if your not actively using it.
@Rachorid how are you setting up your wifi? is it set to always be on? or set to turn off when screen off? you have alot of wifi wake. might be due to that. i know when i'm at home my wifi actively pings all devices connected which will force wake up my phone. yea its a bit annoying but i live with it. otherwise i just keep my phone plugged in.
if you both can get some SS of alarms i can give you a better idea. and when you SS the alarms make sure to click on the ones with the most wake lock so i can see the secondary screen that shows what the actual wakelock command is happening.
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The reason I didnt give you a alarm ss is because I didn't have any alarms when I went to the alarms section. I also had all locations services including GPS enabled but I just now disabled GPS but left network location enabled I'll give you a screenshot later so you can see the differences
I know exactly how you feel that's what happened to me,u was expecting so much from the battery and it turned out to be the worst..give ya some advice...3g drains the **** out of the battery ,so always jeep it off and turn it on only when you wanna use it...that way the battery will be acceptable... Also flashing a custom Rom would help...o recommend arhd
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BigJoey010 said:
I know exactly how you feel that's what happened to me,u was expecting so much from the battery and it turned out to be the worst..give ya some advice...3g drains the **** out of the battery ,so always jeep it off and turn it on only when you wanna use it...that way the battery will be acceptable... Also flashing a custom Rom would help...o recommend arhd
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I had awesome battery life a month ago with Wifi always on, auto. brightness and every app on hourly sync. (I have my phone since 7th of march) Sometimes I didn't lost a percent over night (8 hours) and I just don't know what it could be because I didn't install another app and no app seems to be responsible for that stanby drain. My on-screen battery life is still good. It also doesn't matter which ROM or kernel I'm using.
Here is my latest stats after 12 hours with 5 minutes of GPS use (turned off when not using)and network location on all the time with 3g/4g on all the time(turns off after a period of inactivity) . I can't give you a alarm stat because I'm not rooted.
Lithium-Ion batteries used in today's smartphones need atleast 10 cycles to show optimum power
so hold on until 2 weeks then you will get the full performance
i get 2 days of battery on my HTC One (since i dont have internet on my Simcard)
its 2G connection and auto Brightness and switched bloatwares off
i use Android Revolution HD 12.2
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Here is my latest stats after 12 hours with 5 minutes of GPS use (turned off when not using)and network location on all the time with 3g/4g on all the time(turns off after a period of inactivity) . I can't give you a alarm stat because I'm not rooted.
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with normal use 3.6%/h is pretty reasonable. how much screen on time was that including?
I recently picked up a Moto G 2014 for a family member since it was on sale and I'm having a bit of trouble, at least I think I am. This person hardly uses the phone, doesn't make calls every day but putters around on it, listens to music occasionally. Real basic use stuff. The battery only seems to last a day. In trying to diagnose/troubleshoot it without rooting or voiding warranty, it seems like it's draining excessively. Just sitting with all the apps closed on the home screen, it's burning up about 180-210 mA according to Ampere. Now, my LG G2 reliably uses 30mA on the home screen without apps running. Apples & oranges, I know but shouldn't the value on the Moto G be lower? Does anyone else use Ampere and have similar readings? With the little use this phone sees, I'd imagine people that use it regularly have to charge multiple times a day to keep the phone alive and I can't see the Motorola engineers doing that. I've tried closing and disabling apps that aren't used and there doesn't seem to be much that goes on. So I'm not sure if this is normal or if something's wrong. I have done all the OTA updates and also tried a factory reset, it made no difference. I'm tempted to root & install the official CM but if there's something wrong with the phone, I want to get it fixed through Motorola first.
Any ideas for this Moto newbie? Thanks in advance.
Here's some screenshots of the battery stats in case anyone's curious:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/464376/phone/moto/Screenshot_2015-11-22-11-33-48.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/464376/phone/moto/Screenshot_2015-11-22-11-33-55.png
I'm getting 160-170 mA after clearing all the recent apps with CM 12.1. But battery life is not bad at all. About 1 day with 5+hours of SoT or 2-3days with 3+ hours of SoT. So I don't really care.
Ps.: I don't think that 30mA is enough for phone to run with screen ON. Maybe in sleep mode.. 30mA is way too small value. I also found an article about power consumption of smartphones: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.1896.pdf
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I'm getting 160-170 mA after clearing all the recent apps with CM 12.1. But battery life is not bad at all. About 1 day with 5+hours of SoT or 2-3days with 3+ hours of SoT. So I don't really care.
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That sounds significantly better than what my Moto G is getting. I doubt the phone sees 2 hours of SoT in a day but the battery barely lasts a day. I'm hoping it's just hoggy apps and that CM will clean things up.
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Ps.: I don't think that 30mA is enough for phone to run with screen ON. Maybe in sleep mode.. 30mA is way too small value. I also found an article about power consumption of smartphones: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1212.1896.pdf
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I think you're right actually. Looking at the Ampere stats, it shows 30mA as the max draw, even after opening several apps and running. I thought this seemed right for idle but it's always stuck there under load.
Actually I had a similar problem with my Moto G on stock. Did you use GPS? Because when I turn on and off gps on my phone it remains ON and drains my battery pretty fast, until I restart my phone. So whenever I use GPS I have to turn it off in settings and restart my phone in order to turn it off.
OK so if u really want a decent battery life. Just turn of sync, location and keep scanning In advanced WiFi settings.
Since its showing Google services as culprit, turning sync off would probably solve the issue.
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Somewhere earlier this year I started getting a 20% overnight battery drain. On a few nights it didn't drain, but its pretty consistent. I have tried everything listed on this forum..This drain is definitely not caused by any standard settings. I am really hoping somebody with insight into Oreo might have something new I could try. I know xda user Digisteve is going to showup and suggest more things, and that is also not going to work.
Things I've tried.
- using root to disable logd. (saw this as a process in BBS) Still drained.
- Disabling auto-sync of all accounts. Still drained.
- Turning on stamina mode at night. Still drained.
- Removed google play store, google play services framework, and all google aps - and replaced with alternative China app store. - Still drained. Not a play services problem.
- Turning off wifi, all wifi scanning, notifications of wifi networks etc. Still drained.
- Turning off mobile data and wifi - no connectivity at all. Still drained.
- Turned of location in all possible device settings,. Still drained.
- Rooted the device with Janjan method/kernal. Still drained.
- Flashed different regions. Including (Taiwan, my region, Malaysia, Germany, Swiss, HK). Still drained.
- Tried firmware verions , 179 , 205, 235, 270
- Deleting 3rd party apps. Still drained.
- Installing Gsam - checking for consuming apps. No apps listed as cause of the drain.
- Installed greenify. Tried as standard, non-rooted with adb permissions, and fully rooted. Still drained.
- Disabling various packages related to 'carrier services', qualcomm and rcs. Still drained.
- Debloated to the point that the phone had no google apps, no Xperia apps and removed tons of other apps, camera bloat, anon data, etc, all removed. Still drained.
- All built in apps replaced with a 3rd party app, including, sms, contacts, email, keyboard. Still drained.
- Installed Linage OS 15.1 Beta 5. Still drained.
- switched from 3G only to LTE only. both drained equally.. though I have worse single with LTE in my area.
I am hoping there is a better solution than throwing the phone away. Because I am pretty much at that point now. I have spent probably well over 120 hours trying to fix this, and I can't. Its at the point where I need to move on to a new device rather than waste more time.... but there are no small devices on the market now, and also no more classic xperia style devices on the market. Sony does not make the executive, classic 'Xperia' style I fell in love with anymore. I don't do round, heavy, huge phones. Very sad.
UPDATE - AUGUST 14
Now running the latest Customized German 270 firmware.
Still draining 20% per night. Check out the screen shots - clear to see I have almost no apps. No process can be seen as a battery hog in both Gsam and BBS. However Gsam screenshot shows evidence of CPU usage.
UPDATE - SEPTEMBER 13 - FOUND THE PROBLEM
Considering almost nobody had my issue, I assumed my phone must be a dud. Late August I bought a second XZ1 compact. The new phone worked for 1 day, and on the second day drained battery at 15% per night idle drain. Previously I had only tested the sim card by switching 3g,4g and disable mobile data, but never actually removing the sim from the phone. Last 2 nights I replaced my old sim with my gf sim of a different carrier. In the morning I had 99% battery remaining. No Drain!
I then downloaded an app these measures signal strength, and turns out where I sleep at night, there is is less reception. Its not noticeable just looking at the standard signal strength on your home screen, you need to check the more detailed strength in decibel millimps /dbm. I can still get good signal in most areas of my house, but the phone is having to use more power to keep the signal good. I can now reproduce the battery drain on demand. If I sleep with the phone near my bed, I get drain. But if I keep the phone in the living room, no drain. I found that connecting to wifi not a factor, since even if you use wifi for data, the phone was still holding open a connection the the cell tower.
This problem took me months, countless hours, and the expense of buying a completely new phone!!! Now I have 2 XZ1 compacts....arg.... but so happy its solved.
The important point is that if testing sim, good signal, or disabling mobile data, changing 3g 4g isn't enough. Your phone is using more power to maintain good signal.
Thank you to everyone who spend time trying to help me, digestive, proflyer, etc. Thank you guys.
At this point, I think it's highly likely you got yourself a lemon. Since you've already rooted the phone, warranty service is out of the question.
It boils down to two options:
1. Pay for a board replacement.
2. Try your luck with a brand new XZ1C. Buy it online so that you'll get the 7 days return perk (some online stores offer 10 days), keep it wrapped in its original packaging, handle with extreme care, and use it normally for a few days before your return window runs out. If you no longer get drains, congrats, and welcome to the club. If not, accept your fate, return it for a full refund, and give up on the XZ1C - understand that you weren't meant for each other and move on.
I had the same issue. Check this thread. Try that and report back.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...ormal-battery-consumption-wifi-t3740495/page3
I know what you feel. I had this too, but mine went away and I only very rarely have this drain. But mine was always on Wifi. With Wifi off = no drain reported... never.
I investigated it for weeks without coming to a conclusion.
If you can, replace the phone with warranty. Worth a try. Right now in my opinion you have a hardware faulty device.
But i would say to wait for android 9. In my opinion it wont take ages to come. It will much likely come this year.
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I had the same issue. Check this thread. Try that and report back.
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He still has drain even with WIfi Off, so that not the problem.
The only other thing I could suggest is having the battery replaced at a local repair shop. If you got a lemon battery but an otherwise fine phone, that could help.
How about remove your SIM card with wifi on for over night? Do you still experience the drain?
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Dean F said:
UPDATE - AUGUST 11
ONE WORK AROUND. If I reboot the phone, then unlock it so "android is starting" screen is complete. Then lock the phone, without doing anything else - The battery does not drain overnight. In light of this, what could be the solution? I know an app sounds logical, but I arlready checking my 3rd party apps, and none of them were the probably, an no battery app has ever listed an app as a drain.
Any technical or Dev person go any idea what that symptom points towards?
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This does indeed sound like an app or a service gets stuck in an awkward way. You indicated in your first post that you use better battery stats, do you mind posting screenshots of the top of the summary, kernel wakelocks and partial wakelocks page (showing keeping awake services) as well as the bottom of the cpu states page (showing deep sleep time) "since unplugged" after a few hours of drain?
I have attached corresponding screenshots here for my xz1c (after more than 24 hours unplugged) as a reference (I have play services enabled and syncing both gmail and contacts and so on, no root though).
Dean F said:
UPDATE - AUGUST 11
ONE WORK AROUND. If I reboot the phone, then unlock it so "android is starting" screen is complete. Then lock the phone, without doing anything else - The battery does not drain overnight. In light of this, what could be the solution? I know an app sounds logical, but I arlready checking my 3rd party apps, and none of them were the probably, an no battery app has ever listed an app as a drain.
Any technical or Dev person go any idea what that symptom points towards?
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That doesnt make too much sense. Test it for at least one week before coming to conclusions.
Try this and let me know if it works
I had exactly the same issue
What i did (now magicaly works)
I did not have too many time so what I did was simple and I got a cheap replacement phone in the meantime
It seems to be beyond everything we tried
I conected the phone to the pc and did the fix with xperia companion, then I realized that everything was working as soon as I started to install the apps the problem came back, I installed a launcher (nova) and use it, drained the battery útil reach zero and fully charge it, then everything was working... Back to normal... I don't know how the issue was solved but hope it works for you
Sorry about my bad english xD
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This does indeed sound like an app or a service gets stuck in an awkward way. You indicated in your first post that you use better battery stats, do you mind posting screenshots of the top of the summary, kernel wakelocks and partial wakelocks page (showing keeping awake services) as well as the bottom of the cpu states page (showing deep sleep time) "since unplugged" after a few hours of drain?
I have attached corresponding screenshots here for my xz1c (after more than 24 hours unplugged) as a reference (I have play services enabled and syncing both gmail and contacts and so on, no root though).
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Hi ergoen - thanks for the interest in my problem. Please see all the screenshots attatched, including BBS and Gsam.
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Please see all the screenshots attatched,
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The screenshots from BBS look pretty normal, the GSMBattery shots show issues with Google Play Services, so I'm guessing they were taken at different times. But there's nothing jumps out of the stats that looks out of the ordinary. Have you run the phone in safe mode overnight to see if you get the same drain? I think you may just have a duff battery, no one else has reported this sort of power loss before.
$40 down the repair shop to get a new battery is going to be a whole lot cheaper than a new phone.
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I installed a launcher (nova) and use it,
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I have read somewhere else that Sony's Home is very thirsty with power, I will give your suggestion a go
Didgesteve said:
The screenshots from BBS look pretty normal, the GSMBattery shots show issues with Google Play Services, so I'm guessing they were taken at different times. But there's nothing jumps out of the stats that looks out of the ordinary. Have you run the phone in safe mode overnight to see if you get the same drain? I think you may just have a duff battery, no one else has reported this sort of power loss before.
$40 down the repair shop to get a new battery is going to be a whole lot cheaper than a new phone.
I have read somewhere else that Sony's Home is very thirsty with power, I will give your suggestion a go
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Thanks didgetsteve. your probably right.... The GSAM and BBS stats were taken right after each other, maybe a gap of 2 mins. Play Services wasnt the issue though, as I tried my phone google free, and it still drained.
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Thanks didgetsteve. your probably right.... The GSAM and BBS stats were taken right after each other, maybe a gap of 2 mins. Play Services wasnt the issue though, as I tried my phone google free, and it still drained.
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I agree with didgesteve, nothing jumps out by just looking at bbs (I am not familiar with gsam, so I cannot comment so much on that).
Before replacing the battery, I would probably make sure that it is not radio/network related. I have noticed that my phone draws significantly different amount of battery (in deep sleep mode) depending on the mobile network. This is mostly independent on whether mobile data is on or off.
Could you turn on airplane mode for an hour or two and verify that it is not the radio chip that is causing your drain? (If that is the cause, I am not sure if you can do anything about it apart from switching carriers or experimenting with 2g/3g/4g settings, but it might be worth knowing)
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I agree with didgesteve, nothing jumps out by just looking at bbs (I am not familiar with gsam, so I cannot comment so much on that).
Before replacing the battery, I would probably make sure that it is not radio/network related. I have noticed that my phone draws significantly different amount of battery (in deep sleep mode) depending on the mobile network. This is mostly independent on whether mobile data is on or off.
Could you turn on airplane mode for an hour or two and verify that it is not the radio chip that is causing your drain? (If that is the cause, I am not sure if you can do anything about it apart from switching carriers or experimenting with 2g/3g/4g settings, but it might be worth knowing)
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Didgesteve said:
The screenshots from BBS look pretty normal, the GSMBattery shots show issues with Google Play Services, so I'm guessing they were taken at different times. But there's nothing jumps out of the stats that looks out of the ordinary. Have you run the phone in safe mode overnight to see if you get the same drain? I think you may just have a duff battery, no one else has reported this sort of power loss before.
$40 down the repair shop to get a new battery is going to be a whole lot cheaper than a new phone.
I have read somewhere else that Sony's Home is very thirsty with power, I will give your suggestion a go
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I also had the drain that Dean has. But mine wasnt so agressive, I mean, some days it was there draining 30% battery over my sleep time (8hrs) and sometime it just behaved normally draining max 3% over sleep time. But still from time to time the drain come back wich is annoying as I cant let my phone with 30% battery left when im going to sleep, afraid the battery will be dead and the alarm wont wacke me up lol.
On my extensive tests, the drain only happened with wifi, but even deactivating all wifi related process (backups, syncs etc) the drain was sometimes there. Wifi wasnt the culprit with Dean, but on my tests: Wifi On = Sometimes big drain , Wifi Off = never drain.
I never managed to find the culprit of this damn drain and Im a software tester. Gsam did not show anything unusual at all. It was like Deans screenshot.
We discussed about this issue a lot here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz1-compact/help/battery-life-bit-odd-t3688342/page8) but till this day we dont know whats triggering it.
Im curious how the phone will behave on this issue with android P.
@ergoen @Didgesteve . Can you guys comment on my 4th screen shot, the one where you can see the CPU usage. Does anything strike you as odd in that pic? TThe CPU util looks high... it is normal?
i dont see nothing odd there
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@ergoen @Didgesteve . Can you guys comment on my 4th screen shot, the one where you can see the CPU usage. Does anything strike you as odd in that pic? TThe CPU util looks high... it is normal?
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I'm sorry, but I don't think I have the knowledge to judge that. I would expect CPU usage to be low in deep sleep mode, but since the CPU is mostly sleeping, I guess any requested usage will queue up in a way that might look odd, so what you are seeing might be normal (but again, I don't actually know). I also believe that CPU power consumption is mostly related to the frequency state it is in, so deep sleep should mean low consumption (independent on cpu util %).
As I indicated in my previous post, I would sooner blame the radio chip or the battery than the CPU given your BBS screenshots.
mi drain came back today... some days its there and some days its not...
what a fvcking piece of sh1t is this phone... im done with the all tests. time to try samsung.
profyler said:
mi drain came back today... some days its there and some days its not...
what a fvcking piece of sh1t is this phone... im done with the all tests. time to try samsung.
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Bro, Samsung is even worse when it comes to battery drain. Check out linus tech tips vid from a few days ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n46s_iF_IV4&t=324s
My wifes side of the family all have Samsungs.... they are totally ****. The OS is bloated, ugly, laggy despite monster specs huge ram, snap 845, and battery nightmares on brand new phones exactly like in Linus's video. And there is a stupid "BIXBY BUTTON" on the phone which is a total nightmare. if your with Samsung, BIXBY will the with you, following you forever.
In other news, I replaced my Taiwan XZ1 compact with an Australian XZ1 Compact, and my drain is gone. I drained 2% last night.
There are so many build differences with the Taiwan and Australian build of the phone. Bigger microphone holes, slightly different proximity sensor design, and the plastic back is a rough matt black/gray in the AU versions, the TW version was a smoother shiny midnight black with a silver sparkle in the sun. The biggest difference was of course the battery drain.