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So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Hikikomori-Otaku said:
So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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There have been lots of threads on this. Searching is good.
The cheapest, most customizable and most tweakable is the T-Mobile version. this comes already carrier unlocked, and you can unlock its bootloader easily.
Hikikomori-Otaku said:
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like?
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I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.
nhizzat said:
I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.
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I deal with my hot wife every day. I want my phone to be easy. I went with the dev model and am happy
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We like our phones hot like your wife lol
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Hikikomori-Otaku said:
So I'm having a bit of a conundrum. My current RAZR M is very nice, but is facing a few problems (I won't go into detail). After a lot of research, I've decided the Moto X will most likely be my next phone. Some additional motivation is I have a $50 coupon off a new Moto X and tomorrow starts Motorola's Moto X Valentine's Day sale. It seems like a good time to pick one up.
My question is should I get the Dev version with the black front with white backing, to which I'm not a huge fan of or get a MotoMaker version and design one that I like? Like most here, once I get my hands on the device, I'm going to want to root it and start tweaking everything to my liking. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I'm assuming you're a VZW customer, and planning to stay as one... So don't get the Tmobile version.
What means more to you, a customized look, or the ability to unlock it? Unlocking guarantees you the ability to root. While you can root the VZW moto maker phones, you cannot now, and likely will never be able to unlock it.
TheSaw said:
There have been lots of threads on this. Searching is good.
The cheapest, most customizable and most tweakable is the T-Mobile version. this comes already carrier unlocked, and you can unlock its bootloader easily.
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To be fair, I did search and not just here. Most what I found were people moving from "top-tier" model phones. The other being that the prices have change a bit from the release date. I will keep you advice in mind though.
I was thining the T-Mobile version would be the best too. From what I've read, it'll be a bit of work but that is part of the fun.
nhizzat said:
I think you already know the answer. It's like trying to decide between the ugly girl who gives it up easily or the attractive girl who makes you work for it but is totally worth the time and effort.
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While I may not like to context of your analogy, you message is clear. Getting a beautiful phone and putting forth a bit of work to making fully my own may be worth it in the end.
Coop9 said:
I'm assuming you're a VZW customer, and planning to stay as one... So don't get the Tmobile version.
What means more to you, a customized look, or the ability to unlock it? Unlocking guarantees you the ability to root. While you can root the VZW moto maker phones, you cannot now, and likely will never be able to unlock it.
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When I originally got my RAZR M, I was on VZW (prepaid to be exact), the tweaks I had done to make it work on their network caused to phone to not play well with the network at times. I removed the frequency block on the radio and now am running my RAZR M with a GoPhone SIM. Works much better even if AT&T's coverage isn't as good a VZW's in my area.
Like the title says, is the Verizon Wireless Dev Edition worth the extra $50 for the unlocked bootloader and additional 16gb?
Coming from moto devices with locked bootloaders (Droid 1, 3, Razr Maxx) you would think it would be an easy answer because of the unlocked bootloader the Dev Edition has. Just want to make sure if it's really worth it, as this will most likely be my last Moto device (Thx to Lenovo).
Do you want a warranty if you plan to unlock? Do you need the 32gb or is 16 good?
I don't see any other need for discussion ....its what you need. No one here can guess what you need?
But my quick answer ...soley based on the fact that 50 is not a huge amount of cash....yes. I'd get it for sure if I could have. Why not?
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Do you want root without having to jump through hoops and ladders, hoping that someone finds an exploit after each OTA? If so then yes, the extra cost (which is just for the extra 16gb) isn't that much in the big picture and is definitely worth the convenience if you are a root/rom user.
Also, I don't think Lenovo is going to ruin Motorola like everyone is thinking they are, but that's for a different topic.
For me yes. I don't want a device that I cannot unlock the bootloader.
It's the same price as a non-DE 32 GB Moto X. The real question is, "what's more important for you: a custom-designed phone or an unlockable bootloader?" For me, the decision was easy, I took the DE and bought a diztronic case to cover the white back.
rda990 said:
Like the title says, is the Verizon Wireless Dev Edition worth the extra $50 for the unlocked bootloader and additional 16gb?
Coming from moto devices with locked bootloaders (Droid 1, 3, Razr Maxx) you would think it would be an easy answer because of the unlocked bootloader the Dev Edition has. Just want to make sure if it's really worth it, as this will most likely be my last Moto device (Thx to Lenovo).
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Yes it is.
kj2112 said:
Do you want a warranty if you plan to unlock? Do you need the 32gb or is 16 good?
I don't see any other need for discussion ....its what you need. No one here can guess what you need?
But my quick answer ...soley based on the fact that 50 is not a huge amount of cash....yes. I'd get it for sure if I could have. Why not?
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Keeping the warranty while unlocked would be nice. I currently have a 64gb external + 16gb internal on my Razr Maxx, so I probably will need all the space possible.
I just wanted to hear some opinions of people, if think it's worth it or not and why.
detonation said:
Do you want root without having to jump through hoops and ladders, hoping that someone finds an exploit after each OTA? If so then yes, the extra cost (which is just for the extra 16gb) isn't that much in the big picture and is definitely worth the convenience if you are a root/rom user.
Also, I don't think Lenovo is going to ruin Motorola like everyone is thinking they are, but that's for a different topic.
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Dev Edition comes rooted???
I really hope Lenovo doesn't, no one really knows. They could keep the Motorola name going for a few years and just get totally rid of it by slapping the name "Lenovo" on future moto hardware.
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It's the same price as a non-DE 32 GB Moto X. The real question is, "what's more important for you: a custom-designed phone or an unlockable bootloader?" For me, the decision was easy, I took the DE and bought a diztronic case to cover the white back.
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All my phones have been protected with an Otterbox, never have been naked so there wouldn't be a point in getting a custom one.
How good is a diztronic compared to an Otterbox?
Thanks guys for your comments. I'll be ordering a Dev Edition later today, it's going to be hard letting go of my OG Razr Maxx.
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How good is a diztronic compared to an Otterbox?
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If you're an otter box guy, you'll want to stick with that brand. I have always gone case-less, but just can't stomach the white back on the DE. The diztronic is merely for looks -- I can't imagine it would be of any use if the phone were dropped.
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Dev Edition comes rooted???
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No, but it's about as easy as rooting a Nexus device (unlock the bootloader via Motorola's website, flash a custom recovery, then flash SU). And you get to keep your warranty.
Without the DE, you cannot unlock the bootloader, and to get root you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 and run an exploit which involves executing some scripts via telnut. And once the next OTA comes out, it's likely this method will be patched and you'd need to wait for another exploit to be found.
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No, but it's about as easy as rooting a Nexus device (unlock the bootloader via Motorola's website, flash a custom recovery, then flash SU). And you get to keep your warranty.
Without the DE, you cannot unlock the bootloader, and to get root you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 and run an exploit which involves executing some scripts via telnut. And once the next OTA comes out, it's likely this method will be patched and you'd need to wait for another exploit to be found.
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Other Moto x's can have unlocked bootloaders...except a couple. You just void warranty.
Just to be clear.
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Yes tho...if he gets an ordinary Verizon ....he can't unlock boot loader. Boo Verizon. Lol
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If the back is an issue just buy a new back off of eBay. They are pretty easy to get on and off.
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rda990 said:
....it's going to be hard letting go of my OG Razr Maxx.
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I had a Razr MAXX and don't miss it at all. The Moto X is a much better phone. It won't match the battery life of the MAXX, but its worth the trade-off.
esmith818 said:
If you're an otter box guy, you'll want to stick with that brand. I have always gone case-less, but just can't stomach the white back on the DE. The diztronic is merely for looks -- I can't imagine it would be of any use if the phone were dropped.
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Yea I'll just stick to Otterbox then. It's amazing how many times I've dropped my Razr Maxx (honestly over 100) and it's still running strong. My first Otterbox case started to show heavy signs of wear and tear so I got a brand new one from Otterbox thanks to their lifetime warranty :good:
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No, but it's about as easy as rooting a Nexus device (unlock the bootloader via Motorola's website, flash a custom recovery, then flash SU). And you get to keep your warranty.
Without the DE, you cannot unlock the bootloader, and to get root you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 and run an exploit which involves executing some scripts via telnut. And once the next OTA comes out, it's likely this method will be patched and you'd need to wait for another exploit to be found.
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Very easy I see. I thought that with every OTA even on the DE you have to re-root. So on a DE/Unlocked Bootleader SU/Root stays permanently, thanks for clarifying.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
I had a Razr MAXX and don't miss it at all. The Moto X is a much better phone. It won't match the battery life of the MAXX, but its worth the trade-off.
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I might miss it more since I paid ~$500 for the Limited Edition (Employee Edition) one, so to me it is much more than just a Razr Maxx, dumb I know...How different is battery life between the too? I would think that the X would hang in there with the Droid regardless of battery size since the Maxx is 2 years old.
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I might miss it more since I paid ~$500 for the Limited Edition (Employee Edition) one, so to me it is much more than just a Razr Maxx, dumb I know...How different is battery life between the too? I would think that the X would hang in there with the Droid regardless of battery size since the Maxx is 2 years old.
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With the MAXX I could easily get 24+ hours with 5.5-6 hrs screen on time with heavy use. Some people on here have been able to get close to that with their X, but I'm getting closer to 3.5-4 hrs of screen on time.
As always you're mileage may vary.
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Very easy I see. I thought that with every OTA even on the DE you have to re-root. So on a DE/Unlocked Bootleader SU/Root stays permanently, thanks for clarifying.
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Well you do have to re-root after an OTA (assuming you haven't made system changes so that you can even take it) just like a Nexus, but it's still simply just reflashing a custom recovery and the SU zip. The bootloader stays unlocked.
For me yes its worth it. Rooting a non-Dev edition, looks like too much monkey business for me to be involved in. And I do like the extra 16gb.
Roland Stone said:
For me yes its worth it. Rooting a non-Dev edition, looks like too much monkey business for me to be involved in. And I do like the extra 16gb.
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Rooting any unlocked x is the same.
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rda990 said:
Yea I'll just stick to Otterbox then. It's amazing how many times I've dropped my Razr Maxx (honestly over 100) and it's still running strong. ...
Very easy I see. I thought that with every OTA even on the DE you have to re-root. So on a DE/Unlocked Bootleader SU/Root stays permanently, thanks for clarifying. .
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If you're going with a case, then the woven white back of the DE vs. customization of the moto maker version is off the table.
That brings it down to how much do you need root? and how easy do you want the root process to be.
Yes, you need to re-root for every OTA. To root in the first place, you flash a custom recovery (like TWRP), then flash/install SuperSU. To get ready for the next OTA, as long as you didn't touch system files, etc, just flash the stock recovery back on, take the OTA. Once its on there, re-root by flashing custom recovery then flash/install SuperSU.
I for one wanted root enough to purchase the Dev X for Verizon in early Nov, just two days before the first price drop. I don't regret it. Its easy to root, easy to put back to take OTA and re-root. And has 32gig (the 16gig version only had 11gig available to me out of the box which was not enough).
$50 for 16 GB was enough for me. The bootloader that is easier to unlock made the cost even more justifiable. I really don't care what my phone looks like as long as it is not gaudy, so the color choice, or lack thereof, didn't really bother me.
My only complaint with the phone is the current lack of development. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus toro, I knew there wouldn't be as much development, but it's drastically less. There have been no official releases from CM or AOKP which still baffles me.
The phone just isn't that popular for some crazy reason.....boo Google....hopefully the new guys turn Motorola around. Also the things that make the Moto x unique are gone on CM. So demand is low. Xposed fills the gap nicely tho.
Voiding warranties unlocking non dev boot loaders probably adds to the lack of interest too.
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Has anyone tried rooting a Verizon Moto X 2014 with the program kingo root? I plugged my phone up today and it looked like it was capable but it is my only phone and I don't want to mess it up. Any thoughts?
lunarman1000 said:
Has anyone tried rooting a Verizon Moto X 2014 with the program kingo root? I plugged my phone up today and it looked like it was capable but it is my only phone and I don't want to mess it up. Any thoughts?
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I'd think if it worked we would have heard about it by now. The Moto X is not on the list of supported devices. Though reading up on it, the website says if it doesn't work on your device it won't cause any issues, just reboot and carry on. You could take one for the team and give it a shot...
Yeah, not working. Worth a try though.
Does this over and over again and then fails....
Maybe it could work on KitKat?
damn this is the longest i've had a phone without root! prolly gonna have to sell this thing and get the m9 when it comes out! bad enough no bootloader unlock, but damn even no root thats gay
I'm sure your all aware of the overwhelming support afforded such a cheap and quite frankly a poorly designed phone in my opinion as the Moto E5. I had the misfortune of deciding on moto E5 cruise, Which is the same exact device as the play and the other witty adverbs they concocted to describe this very basic phone. Its not like basically the same phone it is the same exact ******* phone..
The Irony of this is that, the only reason I bought a Motorola is that they have absolutely no problem with you rooting our own device that you purchased with your own hard earned money. Which is very kind of them. My last phone was a bargain galaxy from track phone the J3 Luna pro aka sm-s327vl aka unrootable device. If you did a search on the sm-s327vl you know what came up...….nothing that's what nothing. A thread on xda which consisted of 6 or 7 guys *****ing about how they couldn't root their tracphones.. The phone before that was the infamous ZTE ZMax Pro, which anyone out there that had one will tell you was at least for a year or two another rootless device. Not only was the bootloader locked, fastboot was disabled. A few guys from xda of all places came up with. A script that relied on a temporary root via kingroot, witch king root would root the devices from anywhere from 2 min to a few hours eventually the phone would reboot itself and you'd loose the root. The Idea was to open the adb shell, you could gain root privilege and disable write protection to install Su.
I'm sorry, I really digressed this right. So the moral of me rootless tale is that there has to be a way to work around this. So I figured I would ask the pros. Advise would be greatly appreciated, maybe a point in the right direction. Or Is the E5 cruise discrimination something that will change with time? Different carrier policies is something [one of many] that I'm afraid I know very little about.
I wanna thank you all for you time and patience as you read through this . Thank and have a great day
Sincerely rootless in Cleveland
I picked up the Moto E5 Supra aka Moto E5 Plus?.. (i think) This is a great phone for the money, just looking to get some custom rom/root stuff going... Hope we see more info here for us. Which model do u have exactly?
chriz80 said:
I'm sure your all aware of the overwhelming support afforded such a cheap and quite frankly a poorly designed phone in my opinion as the Moto E5. I had the misfortune of deciding on moto E5 cruise, Which is the same exact device as the play and the other witty adverbs they concocted to describe this very basic phone. Its not like basically the same phone it is the same exact ******* phone..
The Irony of this is that, the only reason I bought a Motorola is that they have absolutely no problem with you rooting our own device that you purchased with your own hard earned money. Which is very kind of them. My last phone was a bargain galaxy from track phone the J3 Luna pro aka sm-s327vl aka unrootable device. If you did a search on the sm-s327vl you know what came up...….nothing that's what nothing. A thread on xda which consisted of 6 or 7 guys *****ing about how they couldn't root their tracphones.. The phone before that was the infamous ZTE ZMax Pro, which anyone out there that had one will tell you was at least for a year or two another rootless device. Not only was the bootloader locked, fastboot was disabled. A few guys from xda of all places came up with. A script that relied on a temporary root via kingroot, witch king root would root the devices from anywhere from 2 min to a few hours eventually the phone would reboot itself and you'd loose the root. The Idea was to open the adb shell, you could gain root privilege and disable write protection to install Su.
I'm sorry, I really digressed this right. So the moral of me rootless tale is that there has to be a way to work around this. So I figured I would ask the pros. Advise would be greatly appreciated, maybe a point in the right direction. Or Is the E5 cruise discrimination something that will change with time? Different carrier policies is something [one of many] that I'm afraid I know very little about.
I wanna thank you all for you time and patience as you read through this . Thank and have a great day
Sincerely rootless in Cleveland
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mentathf said:
I picked up the Moto E5 Supra aka Moto E5 Plus?.. (i think) This is a great phone for the money, just looking to get some custom rom/root stuff going... Hope we see more info here for us. Which model do u have exactly?
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I have the moto e5 cruise, I have some bad news bro.....Theres no unlock for your device either at the moment. from what I can tell the e5 is not supported at all by the the unlock bootloader program. I don't understand how everyone is unlocking the play. there has to be another way to unlock it without the code. but
I cant get an answer from anyone. All I do know is there's all kinds of support for the e5 from roms to recoveries, but its all unofficial. So there has to be an alternate unlock method. If its out there, Ill find it, and I'll post it here, cuz I'm not an as****e. Its painfully obvious that none of these fu***** snobs are gonna answer me they haven't yet is the 10 months I've been coming to this site....at least their consistant
Yeah, I switched from crappy tmobile to cricket. I got an e5 cruise for free but I mainly use an older nexus 5 with an oreo rom. I'm getting my lg g5 h830 sim unlocked so I can use it on cricket. But I'd really like to be able to root this e5 cruise phone.
Tha ka man I'll so the same.
Same boat here. Need to unlock bootloader. If I would of known this before hand I would of never gotten this Cricket e5 Cruise.
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i just unlocked at $19.99
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i just unlocked at $19.99
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Where??
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Where??
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am i allowed to share link here?
What type of unlock is this? A Sim unlock? Or does it enable a bootloader unlock?
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What type of unlock is this? A Sim unlock? Or does it enable a bootloader unlock?
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a sim unlock
still no unlock?
pretty sure this is a step towards redundancy but here is goes.......
Is there still no way to unlock the bootloader on the moto e5 cruise??
i realize it is basically a cheap phone but it is functional and would be much better if root could be attained.
any response would be great, a solution even better. thanks in advance guys
Bootloader unlock
chriz80 said:
I'm sure your all aware of the overwhelming support afforded such a cheap and quite frankly a poorly designed phone in my opinion as the Moto E5. I had the misfortune of deciding on moto E5 cruise, Which is the same exact device as the play and the other witty adverbs they concocted to describe this very basic phone. Its not like basically the same phone it is the same exact ******* phone..
The Irony of this is that, the only reason I bought a Motorola is that they have absolutely no problem with you rooting our own device that you purchased with your own hard earned money. Which is very kind of them. My last phone was a bargain galaxy from track phone the J3 Luna pro aka sm-s327vl aka unrootable device. If you did a search on the sm-s327vl you know what came up...….nothing that's what nothing. A thread on xda which consisted of 6 or 7 guys *****ing about how they couldn't root their tracphones.. The phone before that was the infamous ZTE ZMax Pro, which anyone out there that had one will tell you was at least for a year or two another rootless device. Not only was the bootloader locked, fastboot was disabled. A few guys from xda of all places came up with. A script that relied on a temporary root via kingroot, witch king root would root the devices from anywhere from 2 min to a few hours eventually the phone would reboot itself and you'd loose the root. The Idea was to open the adb shell, you could gain root privilege and disable write protection to install Su.
I'm sorry, I really digressed this right. So the moral of me rootless tale is that there has to be a way to work around this. So I figured I would ask the pros. Advise would be greatly appreciated, maybe a point in the right direction. Or Is the E5 cruise discrimination something that will change with time? Different carrier policies is something [one of many] that I'm afraid I know very little about.
I wanna thank you all for you time and patience as you read through this . Thank and have a great day
Sincerely rootless in Cleveland
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I have a theoretical solution.
If my laptop were working I'd have already tried it.
For the exact same hardware, you can install the firmware that does support unlocking the bootloader.
Start with the bootloader it's self, then go from there.
As far as I know, you can flash factory firmware with a locked bootloader...
The secondary bootloader checks the signature of the boot.img, so if it's different than the original, flashing it first wouldn't work.
After unlocking the bootloader, flash the original firmware back to your phone.
Bootloader should stay unlocked.
Please let me know if it works for you, and if you run into any issues.
I may be able to lend a hand.
Hello, so i got myself a Moto X XT1058 ATT from an elderly person last week, i have managed to root it and i have been searching around for safestrap and havent found any of it around, even from rootzwiki the links are down i have experience flashing and everything and i just love tinkering around with it lol for nostalgia and maybe have it as a backup phone, and my question is does anyone have a spare APK of safestrap? help would be much appreciated, sadly cant unlock the bootloader in this one same as my old moto g 2013 that i had years ago