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Now, lets just forget the fact that this is a flagship Nexus device for Google, who have top engineers and programers working day and night on the Nexus 7. Some how they deliberately left out a camera app. Now I won't even go into the quality because at 1.3 Megapixels its good enough for Skype. And thats it. Myself like the rest of you had to download, the Top rated camera App from the Google Play store from MoDaCo, just type Nexus 7 into Google Play its the 4 result down. The App is a disaster, For a Tegra 3 based device, its does not even give you $199 iPod Touch Facetime results. Ok maybe thats not a fair comparison. But it draws me into me second point, the fact that Google deliberately said NO Camera App for you. Its unlikely they are even going to develop a decent camera App. Which has huge underpinnings. Unlike any other device, most of my friends and co-workers have a Nexus 7 already. We would like to have some type of real Camera App that works at something higher than 10 frames per second. Google is unlikley to give us any kind of Facetime Like App for the Nexus 7 which is disasterous failure. When a single core CPU iPod Touch is delivering a better experience (camera wise and App wise) to the end user. I know leave it up to the Developers ! developers are the answer like Fring which is also super choppy . Really you sound like Steve Ballmer at this point. How hard would have been for Google to add in a Camera App running smoothly with tons of Fun, Effects and Layers that you could essentially Facetime Videochat with friends. The fact that Google is against this makes me think they have already given up on the Nexus 7. Because any 3rd party App is not going to be universally adopted, like A Camera App baked into the device out of the box. Would the Nexus 7 been an even bigger success, its hard to ridicule a success however it is something the Nexus 7 needs. Not 3rd party poorly done camera Apps that look choppy and running on a single core CPU which is struggling to keep up. I know Google Talk is there but everyone I have shown are like WTF! Why name a Video Chat feature as "TALK" most did not know it was even there or an option. It does not even work on the Nexus 7 at least for Video Chat purposes. Does anyone know if Google has hinted or said they will developing a Camera App for the Nexus 7 and a fix for Google Talk ?
rant over its frustrating
The way i see it, there really isnt a need for a camera app. its a front facing low mp camera, so your not going to take pictures of your vacation or go sightseeing with it... you have your phone or actual camera for that.. beside how will you hold the tablet when trying to take a picture with out yourself in the shot? hold it backwards? now you just look silly and your picture still looks like crap.
then you might say "What about taking pictures of my self?" well instagram, facebook, and i think google+ (not really sure about G+, just assumeing so) have a camera app built in that works well with the N7 camera.
sooo not sure what your looking for :silly:
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Now, lets just forget the fact that this is a flagship Nexus device for Google, who have top engineers and programers working day and night on the Nexus 7. Some how they deliberately left out a camera app. Now I won't even go into the quality because at 1.3 Megapixels its good enough for Skype. And thats it. Myself like the rest of you had to download, the Top rated camera App from the Google Play store from MoDaCo, just type Nexus 7 into Google Play its the 4 result down. The App is a disaster, For a Tegra 3 based device, its does not even give you $199 iPod Touch Facetime results. Ok maybe thats not a fair comparison. But it draws me into me second point, the fact that Google deliberately said NO Camera App for you. Its unlikely they are even going to develop a decent camera App. Which has huge underpinnings. Unlike any other device, most of my friends and co-workers have a Nexus 7 already. We would like to have some type of real Camera App that works at something higher than 10 frames per second. Google is unlikley to give us any kind of Facetime Like App for the Nexus 7 which is disasterous failure. When a single core CPU iPod Touch is delivering a better experience (camera wise and App wise) to the end user. I know leave it up to the Developers ! developers are the answer like Fring which is also super choppy . Really you sound like Steve Ballmer at this point. How hard would have been for Google to add in a Camera App running smoothly with tons of Fun, Effects and Layers that you could essentially Facetime Videochat with friends. The fact that Google is against this makes me think they have already given up on the Nexus 7. Because any 3rd party App is not going to be universally adopted, like A Camera App baked into the device out of the box. Would the Nexus 7 been an even bigger success, its hard to ridicule a success however it is something the Nexus 7 needs. Not 3rd party poorly done camera Apps that look choppy and running on a single core CPU which is struggling to keep up. I know Google Talk is there but everyone I have shown are like WTF! Why name a Video Chat feature as "TALK" most did not know it was even there or an option. It does not even work on the Nexus 7 at least for Video Chat purposes. Does anyone know if Google has hinted or said they will developing a Camera App for the Nexus 7 and a fix for Google Talk ?
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Face time is apple.
Google+ hangouts is Google.
Sorry you didn't know. Its hard to be mad at Google for your lack of knowledge.
A camera app with weird facial features? Cool? For 5 mins. I tried it on my iPad once. Literally. Then got annoyed when everyone was uploading pics to fb of their fat/stretched/skinny/alien faces.
Again, this isn't apple. I'm sure an app will pop up eventually, some day
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This tablet is all about promoting Google's content and services. It's very well built and pretty much given away. Most people don't find a high quality camera necessary in a tablet, so this has no rear camera.
It came with no camera app, because the front camera really isn't intended for photography. It's there so you can take advantage of Google Hangouts, which I assume the quality should be good enough for that (haven't tried myself).
My only complaint about the camera is that it really should be angled down slightly. You have to hold the tablet very awkwardly to get the camera to center on your face.
Quite honestly, I really don't think of the front camera. The camera quality and speed shouldn't really be a con, what were you expecting for $200? It has a Tegra 3 and a IPS Display, which cost over $100 alone.
Learn something new everyday, a tegra 3 is camera hardware. Also the commercial s shoeing face time are no where near the quality in real life
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Wow you are horribly misinformed.
Firstly, the words "flagship" and "Nexus" don't correlate to meaning the same thing. This way of thinking represents a terrible misinterpretation of what the Nexus program actually is.
Secondly, you have to realize that the Nexus 7 tablet is aimed squarely at the cheaper end of the tablet market. Google set out to introduce a 200 dollar quad-core tablet, and they succeeded. To do this, cuts in other areas needed to be made. One of these areas is the cheaper sensor in the front-facing camera, and the lack of a rear camera. Now, I myself feel that the front camera is perfectly acceptable for video chatting in G+ hangouts (its intended feature, and the one feature of the camera that is touted prominently in the features list). If you wanted a tablet that could take amazing pictures of yourself or other things, you bought the wrong tablet.
And by the way, just for sake of clarity...Google did not strip the camera apk from the Nexus 7. They simply did not give you a shortcut for it. This is all MoDaCo's app in the Play Store does...unlocks the shortcut for the camera software and places it into your app tray. That's it.
At the end of the day, this is a 200 dollar tablet.
Wow! :banghead:
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Such a poor misinformed person. Please let your friends know that you can video chat in high quality using Google Talk and Google+, both on the device by default.
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And also, you said Google Talk doesn't work? Is this a troll post?
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I have a handful of tablets, including an iPad1 and iPad2. I can honestly say that I probably never had the need to take a picture with any of them. Cell phones have higher quality cameras and are much more portable/accessible. The FFC on the Nexus 7 is intended to be used specifically for video chatting which you can use either Google+ or Google Talk. A camera app wasn't included because any video chat service you use is all you need.
The reference to Google Talk is a stupid video chat service name, well, you have to imagine that Google Talk was around LONG before video service. Video conferencing wasn't originally its main function (and still isn't). It is a chat service app that simply support video.
Video Chatting is great but not useful on a day to day basis. The back camera is a useless tool for a tablet.
I guess this is dumb, but I see nothing called "google talk" on mine. So it's better to tell them to look for "talk"
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Such a poor misinformed person. Please let your friends know that you can video chat in high quality using Google Talk and Google+, both on the device by default.
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Stop with the whole camera drama in this forum already. Most consumers don't need one since they have point and shoots or a smartphone. It's a non-issue that everyone should put to rest. And this thread is also a troll thread as well since he keeps mentioning face time which is an Apple product.
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who really needs a camera an a tablet? I'm glad they left it out. The front facing camera works just fine with Skype.
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Who the hell takes pictures with a tablet anyway? You'd look ridiculous and frankly, I'd probably run up and kick you in the nuts if I saw you trying to do it (figuratively speaking, of course). Quit your damn *****ing already, it got real old real quick.
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who really needs a camera an a tablet? I'm glad they left it out. The front facing camera works just fine with Skype.
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This. People taking pictures and videos with iPads and other tablets look like douchbags anyway.
I have the One X to take pictures if need be.
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This. People taking pictures and videos with iPads and other tablets look like douchbags anyway.
I have the One X to take pictures if need be.
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Now that you mentioned it there seems a direct correlation between people who use tablets to take pictures and people who make camera troll threads.
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Now that you mentioned it there seems a direct correlation between people who use tablets to take pictures and people who make camera troll threads.
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I appreciate all the response, I wanted to be clear on somethings which many focused on, I am not complaining about the camera Megapixel quality itself. Or what do I expect from a $200 tablet. Its the fact that, Google does not want the majority of people video chatting. When the devices is perfectly capable of this more so than a simple iPod Touch. Facetime has become, a verb now, and Android needs a response. Why Google is deliberately blowing an opportunity, is not by mistake. On Campus at work everywhere, almost overnight I see as many Nexus 7's as iPad's. Not many people want to risk a $600 iPad but a $200 tablet is a take everywhere thing. Even places not in class where you dont need an iPad the Nexus 7 is there. But Google does not want you to embrace Facetime like Apple has given people the opportunity to. Probably why the video chat feature is hidden away in a program called TALK. Anyways in response to MMcCraryNJ who says MoDaCo just links to the Camera apk, its not stripped this is even worse. I thought the camera was just a poorly developed 3rd party Ap. And lets not even care about the Visual quality, Have the CPU and GPU help out theres no reason. Its should run so choppy. And if they don't want people using which is why they left out the Icon for a $200 tablet why include one ? If the sensor is so bad, no matter what its gonna deliver what feels like 10 frames a second choppyness. I can't post links yet but just add whats missing to the begining, the Nexus 7 would be a perfect Mom and Pop device for FaceTime (I know FaceTIme is Apple but Android needs a catchier name) or for GrandDads or Grandmas who are not ready for a Smartphone or want to spend $500 on an iPAd. Its the perfect demographic, and yet Google does not want you doing this especially on a perfect devices for it. And it would not cost them extra or 5 cents more per sensor, its software thats not working right, and that they don't want to make user friendly.
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I can just imagine similar Nexus 7 adds would be a hit.
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Nexus 4 Test video 720p:
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Nexus 4 vs. Galaxy Nexus vs. iPhone 5 Benchmarks test:
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Video looks a lot better in 720p when compared to the choppyness of 1080p
One think I might ask if you know, does 1080p zoom the video in about 1.5x like my SGS2?
It looks good on my phone. But that's a way lower resolution then a pc monitor would be.
hahaha the GN was terrible...
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hahaha the GN was terrible...
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I thought that too, it's incredible how fast mobile technology is moving. :good:
Wow, it was pretty much on par with the iPhone 5 on the benchmark. Weren't people complaining about the poor benchmarks before? This should satisfy them hopefully lol
720p is good enough for me!
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hahaha the GN was terrible...
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I know right? That was the one thing that shocked me the most. I mean I know the GNexus is old (and slower because of older tech) but I didnt think that it was going to be THAT much slower and finish so much later than the other two.
After seeing this video test though it is making me want the N4, which sucks because I wasn't planning on getting it as I was happy with my GNexus.
Someone wake up the GNex! :laugh:
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Wow, it was pretty much on par with the iPhone 5 on the benchmark. Weren't people complaining about the poor benchmarks before? This should satisfy them hopefully lol
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Nexus 4 is not only "almost on par with the iPhone 5" but its better then it in the benchmarks, the results are in ms, hence lower is better...
Wow, the G.Nex is terrible.
Glad I sold mine.
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I wanna see 1080p video cus so far the video footage has been really choppy.
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One think I might ask if you know, does 1080p zoom the video in about 1.5x like my SGS2?
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Every phone does that.
impressive scores for the Adreno 350. it really is in the same league of the iPhone's GPU. bragging rights granted, thank you Google.
Wow the blacks on iPhone looks amazing. Much much better than nexus
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Wow the blacks on iPhone looks amazing. Much much better than nexus
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much?! really? i find them both very comparable. the Nexus 4 has slight yellow tint to it while the iPhone is a bit on the reddish side. i think that's why the blacks on the iPhone look slightly better, but i am sure a kernel can give you the option to adjust it to your liking.
If thats the score a GNex gives while having a stellar, lag free performance; I can't wait to see how the N4 performs :good:
This waiting is getting tortuous now! Bring it on already!!
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If thats the score a GNex gives while having a stellar, lag free performance; I can't wait to see how the N4 performs :good:
This waiting is getting tortuous now! Bring it on already!!
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Were we watching the same video? The GNex was atrocious.
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Hi all I've spent the weekend with the Nexus 5 and have put together a review, over all very very good. Not much to grumble about with the Nexus 5.
Feel free to ask questions, ill be stopping back into this thread in a few hours, hopefully the video covers everything people want to know.
Excellent review even through your camera section does not mesh with what others have said or shown. Great detail and thoroughness
great review, subscribed!
Thanks for the lengthy and detailed review. Glad to hear your positives.
Discouraged to hear the WiFi issue, although that sounds like something Google will patch quickly.
Rubbish camera app... Agreed it has been too long without an update. Focal has always seemed half baked to me, and it's not good that n5 isn't supported yet.
I will watch it as soon as I can mate!
Does Transparent Android and and navigation bar work with live wallpapers such as Paperland?
How is RAM management, how much is in use currently, how much is cached, do you see it using less or the same as your previous phone?
Are Google Services, particularly Now! and location services cause large standby drainage?
How is optical image stabilization working?
Does it get hot during benchmarks, gaming, any thermal throttling and gaming lag cause of heat?
Thanks for this nice review.
IMHO you are too optimistic when you suppose that the "wobbly power button" issue will be fixed.
As for the poor Wifi strength, it will certainly be a deal breaker for me it is confirmed. (you make another optimistic assumption that it may be a software issue, but I'd say it's more likely to be a hardware issue).
glad to hear the speaker is louder than the G2 was kind of low. weird considering LG makes both phones
Thanks, I'm going to check out your review this afternoon.
only a few minutes into the review so far, but so far so good! i very much like your presentation style, and just the basics such as proper camera work are very good so far. :good:
Thanks for the info you did a great job with the review. I havent recieved my device yet so it was nice to drool over a 32 minute video.
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Does the phone get noticeably hot while gaming? Does it suffer from intense throttling after a while (the G2 does)? How long does it take to charge the battery up?
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MohJee said:
Does the phone get noticeably hot while gaming? Does it suffer from intense throttling after a while (the G2 does)? How long does it take to charge the battery up?
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No where near as hot as the GS4 i was surprised i think it gets hotter shooting a video than it does when playing an hour of gaming.
This review rocks - good job!
Trustedreviews.com also have one up if people are interested - just seen it appear a second ago.Looks like they're all coming in now.
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Thanks for this nice review.
IMHO you are too optimistic when you suppose that the "wobbly power button" issue will be fixed.
As for the poor Wifi strength, it will certainly be a deal breaker for me it is confirmed. (you make another optimistic assumption that it may be a software issue, but I'd say it's more likely to be a hardware issue).
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I mean later batches will probably have that sorted its a minor thing anyway
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Thanks for the info you did a great job with the review. I havent recieved my device yet so it was nice to drool over a 32 minute video.
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Lol im the same when waiting on a new device if i cant have it now might as well watch videos of other people with theirs... geeks to the end..
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I mean later batches will probably have that sorted its a minor thing anyway
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Androidizen, do you have any personal recommendations for 3rd party cam apps? I know it's early days to be fair so many won't be optimised/compatible yet
ps. gold award for you for managing to get the phrase 'willy waiving' into an otherwise serious review
Great review. I will ask about the camera though. In the video you are trying to have it focus in something literally inches away from the sensor so it will obviously be hard to focus at that distance.
Does it act the same way if you are taking a picture at a normal distance?
Nice :3 have to save money :3
just finished the review, very well done! :good::good:
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Lol im the same when waiting on a new device if i cant have it now might as well watch videos of other people with theirs... geeks to the end..
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Hey mate, G2 or nexus 5?
Edit: G2 for me!
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I've been reading on some new and not so new reviews from sites like gsmarena, phonearena, androidcentral, android authority engadget etc. And all the reviews have been glowing except for the verge well because it's theverge lol. Do u guys agree with most of the reviews?
I agree about the display, to an extent. The black are great on Netflix and the movie Gravity (Galaxy Gift), but when you watch streaming services from Cable provider, (Comcast Xfinity), the blacks have extreme Pixelation and ghosting. It gets so bad that it's annoying and ruins the whole viewing experience.
isnt that comcast's fault though?
So far no alarmingly bad review so im excited to pick this baby up along with a gear fit
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isnt that comcast's fault though?
So far no alarmingly bad review so im excited to pick this baby up along with a gear fit
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It shouldn't be. The movies and TV shows are broadcast in HD. it works fine on my Asus Infinity Transformer. I read that the Netflix and youtube apps were optimized for this device.
So I have a feeling all other media will suffer.
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It shouldn't be. The movies and TV shows are broadcast in HD. it works fine on my Asus Infinity Transformer. I read that the Netflix and youtube apps were optimized for this device.
So I have a feeling all other media will suffer.
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ah i see well lets hope that gets tackled too in newer reviews but i remember josh from android authority watched breaking bad on it and he seemed to not have any issues.
by the way, how do you like the color scheme? gsmarena says its kinda gaudy but in android central forums they say the bronze is nice
I just streamed the latest Star Trek movie on Netflix and it was absolutely gorgeous. Same thing with Avengers. Remember you need to give the player about 30 seconds to buffer before judging the picture quality. Once the full HD buffers it looks amazing. HD YouTube content is also glorious.
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The Verge can write an entire review talking about how perfect and amazing something is then end up docking it two stars because it ISN'T APPLE. CNET is same way. According to these guys you would think the single most important feature of a tablet is what the back of the damned thing is made of.
I love the tab but hate the gold/gray....better than white...but why the tacky gold?????
As I said in my previous post. Youtube and Netflix have been optimized for this device. So the picture is going to be amazing. It's other streaming and video services that may suffer. Such as my Xfinity Go App, Crackle . All the blacks gets extreme Pixelation and ghosting. It's horrible
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I love the tab but hate the gold/gray....better than white...but why the tacky gold?????
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At first I thought the same about the gold but now I don't even notice it. I have a white 10.5 with titanium book cover and honestly it looks pretty good.
Remember this tablet is made by Asians and Asians love gold. I think they did it to get away from the "cheap materials" moniker. Also to make it look different than the Pro line.
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Watching ESPN waiting on the game, the picture is gorgeous. Go USA!
this ipad lover gave it a very good review :highfive:
http://www.itproportal.com/reviews/...eed:+itproportal/rss+(Latest+ITProPortal+News)
The reviews that "count" are the ones from real users at retail sites like BestBuy. Right now the Tab S 10.5 is getting 4.9 out of 5 stars with about 40 or so reviews in. If you know BestBuy, scoring anywhere close to a perfect 5.0 is rare.
Most of these guys that do reviews for tech sites have an altar to iPad in their bedroom at home. And yeah, TheVerge hates everything, lol. I've seen them give a review with nothing but superlatives thoughout then in their conclusion call the device "disappointing" and give it 7.5 stars. They enjoy being snobs.
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The reviews that "count" are the ones from real users at retail sites like BestBuy. Right now the Tab S 10.5 is getting 4.9 out of 5 stars with about 40 or so reviews in. If you know BestBuy, scoring anywhere close to a perfect 5.0 is rare.
Most of these guys that do reviews for tech sites have an altar to iPad in their bedroom at home. And yeah, TheVerge hates everything, lol. I've seen them give a review with nothing but superlatives thoughout then in their conclusion call the device "disappointing" and give it 7.5 stars. They enjoy being snobs.
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i think the verge dislikes any product unless it has the apple logo on it lol
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isnt that comcast's fault though?
So far no alarmingly bad review so im excited to pick this baby up along with a gear fit
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Nope, it's Samsung GPU not processing the HD video properly. It's not only comcast but there are other websites that's showing this on the tab s too. My iPad displays all the same video just fine. I hope it's just software and Samsung will have a fix in it's next update because I'm a tv show buff and this is not acceptable for such a beautiful amoled tablet.
Yeah and the verge knock a star off Samsung tabs for being "too pricey" when there the same price as the iPad which has less specs but they never mention the price on them. Isheel
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Nope, it's Samsung GPU not processing the HD video properly. It's not only comcast but there are other websites that's showing this on the tab s too. My iPad displays all the same video just fine. I hope it's just software and Samsung will have a fix in it's next update because I'm a tv show buff and this is not acceptable for such a beautiful amoled tablet.
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So you're seeing the ghosting and Pixelation (in dark scenes) on third party apps?
another positive review
http://www.mensjournal.com/gear/electronics/a-legitimate-ipad-mini-competitor-20140718
Im impressed so far almost all the reviews are positive (reminds me of galaxy S2 again)
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Nope, it's Samsung GPU not processing the HD video properly. It's not only comcast but there are other websites that's showing this on the tab s too. My iPad displays all the same video just fine. I hope it's just software and Samsung will have a fix in it's next update because I'm a tv show buff and this is not acceptable for such a beautiful amoled tablet.
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So far on YouTube, Netflix and Hulu my 10.5 GPU has performed flawlessly. That leads me to believe this problem is only a software patch away as the GPU is well up to the task with many popular streaming sites.
Quote from the Men's Journal review above:
Compared with the iPad mini with Retina display, the Tab S - even with a higher resolution - never felt sluggish. We put it to the test by reading the entire book Unbroken using the Google Play app. The result? No raging headache. Even movies looked better: The Liam Neeson thriller Non-Stop had more vibrant colors than an iPad mini, which we watched*side-by-side with the Samsung during the same action scene. Once the movie started, the display became brighter and more saturated, maintaining its clear picture*both indoors*and out. You can thank the tablet's Super AMOLED display and its adaptive features, which streamline the switch*between a movie and a book without having to manually adjust the way the screen looks (brightness, colors, saturation)*every time.
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Although I do not doubt the honesty of those experiencing lag, stutter and generally poor performance, I think the feedback from the marketplace is telling us this may be isolated and by my guess, the result of a bad batch of parts. The percentage of those experiencing problems in this forum while still a minority is probably disproportionately large as those having problems come to forums such as these seeking help while those who are satisfied do not.
so I've used the xfinity app and watched some stuff and honestly my black levels look fine, just like Netflix does...
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so I've used the xfinity app and watched some stuff and honestly my black levels look fine, just like Netflix does...
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Penny Dreadful is where I saw it at its worse. It was horrible.
Hello,
Does anybody here know or at least suggest me, what should I keep (I already own the iPhone 5 but I can't use it when my parents are not at home) or should I go and buy XSP (there's a discount for this device otherwise I would need to consider about S3 Mini or Xperia M) which I could use at anytime I want? Thanks to everyone who answers!
XSP is heads and shoulders better than XM or S3. And since S3 Mini is a cut-down version of S3, both in size *and* specs, IMHO there is no reason to prefer the alternatives.
You do have to remember that moving to Android means leaving the Apple ecosystem behind. You'll have to repurchase apps, and there might be some games that are not available on Android.
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XSP is heads and shoulders better than XM or S3. And since S3 Mini is a cut-down version of S3, both in size *and* specs, IMHO there is no reason to prefer the alternatives.
You do have to remember that moving to Android means leaving the Apple ecosystem behind. You'll have to repurchase apps, and there might be some games that are not available on Android.
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I know but I mean the key features like multitasking, camera, headphone that comes with the phone and so on. I know that some games on iOS aren't on Android (like Infinity Blade 2) but that doesn't matter me much, the only game I play on the phone is Clash of Clans and sometime (rlly rarely) I play Asphalt 8 (which I have purchsed for both Android and iOS, no worry for piracy) so.. I just care for the key features like the rear and the front camera. Both of the phones have 8MP camera rear camera but the exposure is different, is that a big difference between the quality? And like the screen, as I know the iPhone 5 comes with an Retina HD display and XSP with TFT HD display but with BE2/X-Reality so I don't which is better
Pretty much everything is better on the iPhone 5. It has better multitask, camera, comes with better headphones, has better hardware performances. As an XSP user, I can't think of a feature were the XSP is better than the iPhone 5, there might be some, but the iPhone is mostly better.
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Pretty much everything is better on the iPhone 5. It has better multitask, camera, comes with better headphones, has better hardware performances. As an XSP user, I can't think of a feature were the XSP is better than the iPhone 5, there might be some, but the iPhone is mostly better.
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But as I know, Android was made for multitaking and for hardware, the XSP haves better processor and the camera is same or am I wrong?
If you want something that just works then the iPhone 5 is better.
If you want something you can play around with ROMs and have more control over the phone then the Xperia SP is better.
My preference is Xperia SP, I dont mind the iPhone as a device but its restrictions annoy me.
david19au said:
But as I know, Android was made for multitaking and for hardware, the XSP haves better processor and the camera is same or am I wrong?
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Android is made for multitasking, however, due to how newer apps are build, devices require more than 1GB to run smoothly. Sadly, the SP just has 1GB of RAM, which makes it slow at times. The processor is good, but the one on the iPhone 5 is the same, if not better. And no, the camera, while 8mpx, works better on the iPhone.
david19au said:
Hello,
Does anybody here know or at least suggest me, what should I keep (I already own the iPhone 5 but I can't use it when my parents are not at home) or should I go and buy XSP (there's a discount for this device otherwise I would need to consider about S3 Mini or Xperia M) which I could use at anytime I want? Thanks to everyone who answers!
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The iPhone Camera is WAY better man.
The SP is awesome but as someone above stated,if you want something that works,the iPhone is better!
Good luck!
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Android is made for multitasking, however, due to how newer apps are build, devices require more than 1GB to run smoothly. Sadly, the SP just has 1GB of RAM, which makes it slow at times. The processor is good, but the one on the iPhone 5 is the same, if not better. And no, the camera, while 8mpx, works better on the iPhone.
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Ok but the iPhone still have only 1Gig RAM... Even some newer devices, even iPhone 5s didn't came with 2Gig RAM and for the headphones, both phone and headphone are using 3,5mm jack so... I can only think of the S5 and Z2(...?) to have 2Gig RAM so...
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The iPhone Camera is WAY better man.
The SP is awesome but as someone above stated,if you want something that works,the iPhone is better!
Good luck!
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Can You post me some comparison pictures taken w/ the iPhone and the XSP? It would be really helpful.
Ok guys, looks like I'm more undecided now, can some1 do a +/- features for both phones (like comparing them). It would be great! Thanks! :highfive:
Edit1 : It would be even better, if any1 could suggest me a phone which I can play with the /system and do a normal work/sometime playing Clash Of Clans and Asphalt 8 and for music listening at the same time. I thought that the XSP can do it but it looks like it can't
Xperia SP:
+Design
+Loud speaker
+Bigger Screen
+Unique ilumination bar
+Runs a more "open" OS, Android (and outdated one)
-Camera
-Low RAM
-Materials used feels cheap at times
-Bad screen quality
Iphone 5:
+Design
+More apps
+More updates in the future (it will at least get two more mayor iOS updates)
+Premium build quality
+Better cameraS with slow-mo video (I'm not sure if it's the 5 and 5s or just the 5s)
+Better screen quality
+Better multitasking (iOS is more optimized for multitasking nowadays in my opinion, as iPhone 5 almost never lags).
-No unique feautres
-Speaker quality is okay.
+/- iOS is not as open as Android, but it's a beatiful design nevertheless.
This is what I can think of.
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Can You post me some comparison pictures taken w/ the iPhone and the XSP? It would be really helpful.
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I can't post comparison pictures right now but there have been a lot of complaints about the XSP camera.
Some users are also experiencing some issues like blurring and extremely poor low light pictures.
If you need a good camera,dont get the XSP.
I don't think these issues are only with my device.
The phone is amazing in other aspects like hardware but if the camera is important,take a comparison from someone else has both the phones!
I'm sorry I can't put up pictures because I'm waiting at the airport
Good luck!
The camera on the SP is REALLY bad, the lenses even get scratched super easily, that's why people get blurry/overexposed pictures. If it's your priority, the more reasons to go for iPhone.
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The camera on the SP is REALLY bad, the lenses even get scratched super easily, that's why people get blurry/overexposed pictures. If it's your priority, the more reasons to go for SP.
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I think you meant "Go for iPhone"!
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I think you meant "Go for iPhone"!
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Completely, thanks.
david19au said:
Ok guys, looks like I'm more undecided now, can some1 do a +/- features for both phones (like comparing them). It would be great! Thanks! :highfive:
Edit1 : It would be even better, if any1 could suggest me a phone which I can play with the /system and do a normal work/sometime playing Clash Of Clans and Asphalt 8 and for music listening at the same time. I thought that the XSP can do it but it looks like it can't
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This phone can perfectly do that! Asphalt 8 runs fine with 0 lag on ultra settings and you should be able to play music when playing either of these games
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And I know one thing about the i5: the WiFi sucks! My dad is always complaining about how he doesn't find any networks while I can find like 10 with my sp or that he can't connect to certain wireless network while I can
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And I know one thing about the i5: the WiFi sucks! My dad is always complaining about how he doesn't find any networks while I can find like 10 with my sp or that he can't connect to certain wireless network while I can
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The SP had some WiFi reception problems (range) but the latest update has fixed it.
WiFi reception is perfect now!