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I just unlocked my Verizon Moto X this week thanks to the Chinese site, and noticed after doing so that the only Rom I can find that is blur based is Eclipse, which at the moment doesn't support a lot of xposed add ons. I also don't see any kernels for blur. Am I blind or missing something? I have no regrets about unlocking the bootloader as I was now able to upgrade to 4.4.2 without issue, but I thought there would be a little more choices in this regard.
My reason for asking is because all the non blur roms, as far as I can tell, do not support touchless controls, assit or native motorola active display. Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but I use these features a lot (touchless controls by far the most of the 3) and wanted to be able to continue using those on a custom rom, as well as tinker with custom kernels.
Welcome to Moto x. Not a huge development circle.
I think eclipse and kangakat are the only 2 stock based roms.
Faux kernel is for stock based only. And its the only custom kernel.
That's it....if you want to keep the Moto features.
Aosp roms don't have the Moto features.
Moto isn't a flashaholics phone...not at all.
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kj2112 said:
Welcome to Moto x. Not a huge development circle.
I think eclipse and kangakat are the only 2 stock based roms.
Faux kernel is for stock based only. And its the only custom kernel.
That's it....if you want to keep the Moto features.
Aosp roms don't have the Moto features.
Moto isn't a flashaholics phone...not at all.
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That's what I figured, although for the price the bootloader unlock was worth to be able to get 4.4.2 with everything accesible as well as future proof updates.
Eclipse room is quite nice. I have not yet seen an xposed module that is incompatible. You do have to get x control and it replaces some gravitybox features, but both still work.
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Just out of curiosity, why hasn't there been any custom roms or development ?
I really hope someone is working on root for non pure edition.
Development was pretty light with the 2013 version too. The combination of limited market (dev edition only) and the near stock experience, and the loss of what makes the Moto X special, means not very many people are seeking an alternative.
What about kernels? Surely we could benefit from custom kernels and keep all our moto x a pure android experience, correct? Like possible for color cal and battery life? :silly:
Custom roms ya custom kernel can come only after motolola releases its kernel sources
My impression was since its " pure edition" it would be developer friendly .
dia_naji said:
My impression was since its " pure edition" it would be developer friendly .
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It is developer friendly. There just isn't a lot of development for the reasons listed above.
Restola said:
Development was pretty light with the 2013 version too. The combination of limited market (dev edition only) and the near stock experience, and the loss of what makes the Moto X special, means not very many people are seeking an alternative.
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This, I have a Droid Maxx and the wife has a Moto X. We enjoy the anti Samsung, pure Google experience enhanced with touchless and active display. No reasons to try any AOSP Roms. Development is so light for the Droid Ultra/ Maxx that CM dropped support for it, but that is due to how good the stock ROM is. I ran Paranoid on my RAZR Maxx HD but still moved back to stock because it is smoother and has better cell reception. All the cool little functions are just that, cool. Paranoid's implementation of their dynamic status and notification bars are the best I've seen, much better than the xposed modules. But at the end of the day, it is about functionality and useability. Stock Motorola Roms are very good, just need to debloat all the Verizon crap in my case. As far as kernels, hopefully faux123 will do something with the new Moto X. I'm running his kernel on my Droid Maxx and Moto X and it definitely enhances the phone more than any aftermarket Roms could. The reason why I hangout in the Moto X forums is because there are not a lot of us Droid owners and the Moto X forums is where we get most of our stuff. I'm running a Moto X port on my Droid Maxx for example. This holds true for the new Droid Turbo also which I am definitely interested in. That is if there's a way to unlock the bootloader. Unlocked bootloader with 3900 mAH battery and 21 mp camera and the Moto X experience? I'm in, still have an upgrade available! But I don't foresee the bootloader or root being available for these new phones for a long while. In the mean time, I'll enjoy my unlocked Droid Maxx and Moto X and continue to lurk around here. Lol
You can use Xposed Framework, I think, with the 2nd Gen. Moto X. It will give you many of the popular features from custom roms that aren't in stock Android.
The only other reason I can see for custom roms on the Moto X (at least as far as it concerns me) is that I think they can be better for privacy and getting rid of under the hood bits of code that might be abused for marketing/tracking purposes. Also I think the CyanogenMod Account is a more secure way to track and remotely wipe your phone, than the Android Device Manager. At the end of the day, I trust Cyanogen to have my security and privacy in mind more than Google or Motorola. But I don't think this is enough that people will feel motivated to develop a lot for the Moto X (for the reasons already stated above).
I can't see development being any busier than the quiet 2013.
Too many Moto limitations... Like bootloaders not being able to be unlocked on some big carriers. And as said, no custom features on aosp/cm roms. Downgrade issues.... If it's like the 2013. Etc.
The X's are not for flashaholics .... That's for sure.
jdubya42 said:
I really hope someone is working on root for non pure edition.
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The pure edition root method by jcase works fine on other devices. I rooted my xt1093 last week, seen some Brazilian carriers' rooted (also non pure, xt1092 maybe?), and I'm 100% confident it'll work for any moto x with an unlockable bootloader.
Am I wrong in thinking that only the pure edition has an unlockable bootloader?
Where to find stock firmware? For verizon?
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Am I wrong in thinking that only the pure edition has an unlockable bootloader?
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Yes, quite wrong. Search and Google are your friend here.
Only Verizon cannot be unlocked presently AFAIK.
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Where to find stock firmware? For verizon?
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I don't think any carrier branded X has made this available yet...
Well thats why I didn't know that. I have the VZW model.
cb474 said:
You can use Xposed Framework, I think, with the 2nd Gen. Moto X. It will give you many of the popular features from custom roms that aren't in stock Android.
The only other reason I can see for custom roms on the Moto X (at least as far as it concerns me) is that I think they can be better for privacy and getting rid of under the hood bits of code that might be abused for marketing/tracking purposes. Also I think the CyanogenMod Account is a more secure way to track and remotely wipe your phone, than the Android Device Manager. At the end of the day, I trust Cyanogen to have my security and privacy in mind more than Google or Motorola. But I don't think this is enough that people will feel motivated to develop a lot for the Moto X (for the reasons already stated above).
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I have mine rooted and running Xposed with GravityBox and it works just as well as my original version Moto X did. I don't see the need for a custom rom, though I might try CM once there is a version for it.
Well as someone said, even the Moto 2013 had very very little development. But I would love to see a Custom ROM based on Moto's software itself. Cleaning out small bugs and unrequired services and maybe add couple of extra features.
I just received my Moto X (2nd gen).... I should have looked on the forums first... Without custom ROMS - I'll most likely just send it back to Moto...
I like the options the custom roms bring. I like choosing the toggles I desire in the window shade, custom themes, etc... Not being able to do those things... Meh - I have been tweaking my experience since 2007. I don't like the idea of just running a plain Jane rom.. This sucks as I really like the hardware... Almost enough that I would spend the time trying to learn to make a custom rom myself... But, I can't expend the time to learn, debug, etc... Sadly, I'm too busy with my day job...
As long as you're not on Verizon, Xposed modules should be able to give you all the customization choices you'd ever need.
I was hoping for custom Lollipop roms and Xposed won't work on Android 5.0 (and, it is uncertain if it will ever work on Lollipop).....
Would it be doable to flash a stock Motorola ROM ("blur") from a Droid Turbo or Moto Maxx, given that the hardware is pretty much the same?
Maybe it's easier than it looks, or it sounds really easier than it really is. But has anyone tried it, and is there a risk of bricking the device?
Don't get me wrong, I love stock Lollipop, but am missing Moto Display a lot, and Moto Voice to a lesser extent...
no.
if you do try it, most likely youll make your n6 as useful as a doorstop from that point on.
I understand that... My wording was inaccurate I guess.
I meant I was wondering if it would be possible to port a Motorola ROM to the shamu, I guess that's more accurate.
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I understand that... My wording was inaccurate I guess.
I meant I was wondering if it would be possible to port a Motorola ROM to the shamu, I guess that's more accurate.
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you can try, it wont be easy. if kitkat, then orobably not. where would you get n6 drivers for kitkat support?
There are lollipop roms for the Moto X, Droid Turbo shouldn't be too far behind.
Motorola blur is closed source, so no it wouldn't be feasible to do with the amount of resources put into it because to be honest there isn't much of a interest and it's difficult to reverse engineer closed source software especially when Motorola can just set out a cease and desist.
Moto rom is already quite close to stock aosp and their apps are propetiary to Motorola mobility. If you want Moto blur (or whatever it's called now) stick to using Moto devices, these Moto blur, touchwiz, HTC sense are what the companies make in order to make people keep buying their phones.
Just like how nexus is pretty much aosp with some Google Apps (dialer, etc). Each phone series has its own unique identity.
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I been reading that we will be getting 6.0. Has anyone heard or read when? How is Marshmallow to Lollipop?
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I been reading that we will be getting 6.0. Has anyone heard or read when? How is Marshmallow to Lollipop?
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This was discussed in the link below, but the topic got moved to Q&A for some reason. I guess because it's a question? Your question will probably be moved too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65288659&postcount=4
This was my response:
Two bits of news, now in the 2nd week of February 2016...
I wouldn't be surprised if we got Marshmallow on all the Quarks by end of February.
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1) Moto Maxx: Android 6.0 tests are finally starting in Brazil
http://arena4g.com/2016/02/soak-test-moto-maxx.html
E-mail invitation to update the Moto Maxx | Source: Anonymous User:
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Marshmallow soak tests are going on in Brazil for the "international" Quark, Moto X1225. What does this mean for Droid Turbo users?
The only difference in all the Quarks ("international" Moto Maxx XT1225, Moto Turbo XT1225, U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250, Droid Turbo XT1254) are the radios. (In fact the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 and Droid Turbo XT1254 are identical in every way, including the radios! Even the same FCC ID.)
Everything else is identical, which is why all the Quark ROMs work on all the Quarks -- including the Droid Turbo XT1254 (with unlocked bootloader):
CM12.1 ( @Skrilax_CZ dev)
Resurrection Remix ( @baybutcher27 dev)
Mokee (AOSP ROM, @baybutcher27 dev)
Nexus Experience (AOSP ROM),(EDIT: Nexus Experience has not been updated recently and does not work with Droid Turbo radio.)
Xperia Z5G
as well as custom kernel BHB27 ( @baybutcher27 dev).
Droid Turbo owners are using all of these above.
These Motorola soak tests usually last a week or two, then the official OTA is pushed out.
Point is, as soon as the soak test is over and the OTA officially hits the XT1225, the devs will update all the custom ROMs to Marshmallow and the Droid Turbo owners can install them. The custom ROMs all auto-detect the appropriate radios for each model. No need to wait for Verizon.
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2) Our Quark CM dev @Skrilax_CZ is already making Marshmallow kernel updates.
@baybutcher27 has also contributed. Here's the thread. One of them is titled "FIX:quark: Update filesystem config for 6.0"
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@Skrilax_CZ
Nice work on the fix of the kernel. I try had no luck.
Are those the final changes before released the first test build?
As you just released those, I had not the time to test yet...
Check this before you release one... very minor fix...
https://github.com/bhb27/android_de...mmit/60f2c0f697bf2a97354d5d32d370859c9a76e6d2
https://github.com/bhb27/android_de...mmit/07bebb5d30cc58e27b2268779143677188e7df4a
config_screenBrightnessSettingMinimum in the 1° config_screenBrightnessDim as it is duplicated.
the last one is present on cm12 too.
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Skrilax_CZ said:
Yes, there was a major patch to fix display HAL in the kernel. Thx for the rest, reviewed, pushed.
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@Skrilax_CZ
I know you may have not finished...
But check...
this on the kernel
https://github.com/bhb27/android_ke...mmit/ea3c27bee339852dfb42cfac42b67e4192a57607
need this
https://github.com/bhb27/android_ke...mmit/7c1352298e00059769724b806b3a3c0fc47d4b9a
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this I add in the pass on L...
https://github.com/bhb27/android_de...mmit/52b11efc1eeca7ea2f3a63912638d21f1dae95f6
and this M only
https://github.com/bhb27/android_ke...mmit/bed942732b86b5d46be8d0d679f3677c839e1bb4
https://github.com/bhb27/android_de...mmit/ba797f67f306bfbbf3b09c7cc4960b8ddabf6624
this may need blobs have not tested this yet... is easy to test with the ROM on the device, I test when have the ROM and the time...
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/a39a9b51c93af54b3f0a46ae424631fa442daf7f
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PS...
I find this minor thing...
https://github.com/bhb27/android_ke...mmit/eef0532fa70ae727ff5cdab262fed31d89edbcb5
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Skrilax_CZ said:
Will review.
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This has to mean CM13 (Marshmallow) is very close -- even without Motorola's Marshmallow OTA update! And Resurrection Remix is based on CM.
Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if we got Marshmallow on all the Quarks by end of February.
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Now, obviously, if you want stock Verizon OTA, there's no estimate on when that will roll out.
Then you.
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Claps1775 said:
I been reading that we will be getting 6.0. Has anyone heard or read when? How is Marshmallow to Lollipop?
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You can join MFN (Motorola Feedback Network) to be involved with testing future updates including the upcoming one. However, you must follow the rules they ask to continue to participate. A bonus is getting this update before the public even knows about it so you get surprised.
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richii0207 said:
You can join MFN (Motorola Feedback Network) to be involved with testing future updates including the upcoming one. However, you must follow the rules they ask to continue to participate. A bonus is getting this update before the public even knows about it so you get surprised.
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Joined them years ago.
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Joined them years ago.
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Never got invited? That's odd. Perhaps the Motorola feedback app is detecting your system as nonofficial so it could be skipping you. Are you on stock? I ask because my GF was invited to test (stock software) and I still have not, as I have been on CM for quite a while.
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I am on stock. Will check and see what phone I have on my profile. Might be the maxx still.
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I don't think the Turbo will be getting Marshmallow at all. The Turbo 2 XDA page is a frenzy because something on Verizon leaked and other websites are saying MM rolling out right now for the Turbo 2 but the XDA users are saying nothing has come out. But keep note, the DROID Turbo and DROID Ultra were supposed to get LP. We got it, the Ultra? STILL has not received it, they are on 4.4.4 KK. So what happened to them MIGHT happen to us. Your only hope for MM is when @Skrilax_CZ releases CM13.
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I don't think the Turbo will be getting Marshmallow at all. The Turbo 2 XDA page is a frenzy because something on Verizon leaked and other websites are saying MM rolling out right now for the Turbo 2 but the XDA users are saying nothing has come out. But keep note, the DROID Turbo and DROID Ultra were supposed to get LP. We got it, the Ultra? STILL has not received it, they are on 4.4.4 KK. So what happened to them MIGHT happen to us. Your only hope for MM is when Skrilax releases CM13.
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The Droid Maxx is also supposedly supposed to get Lollipop but it's been stuck on KitKat.
Once CM13 is released all other Quark ROMs will follow.
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The Droid Maxx is also supposedly supposed to get Lollipop but it's been stuck on KitKat.
Once CM13 is released all other Quark ROMs will follow.
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Maxx/Ultra are all part of the same family, kind of like the Maxx 2 and Turbo 2. I am wondering why Maxx/Ultra never got LP. I am just rooting for @Skrilax_CZ. Another phone that never got LP was the z3v, but an actual, fully functioning build with stagefright patches was leaked onto the web for any z3v users to flash, but no official release from Verizon.
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Maxx/Ultra are all part of the same family, kind of like the Maxx 2 and Turbo 2. I am wondering why Maxx/Ultra never got LP. I am just rooting for @Skrilax_CZ. Another phone that never got LP was the z3v, but an actual, fully functioning build with stagefright patches was leaked onto the web for any z3v users to flash, but no official release from Verizon.
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Considering Skrilax brought Lollipop to Quark devices before Motorola did, I'd say we can count in him. Especially since soak tests have begun on one of the Quark variants, the Moto Turbo.
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Considering Skrilax brought Lollipop to Quark devices before Motorola did, I'd say we can count in him. Especially since soak tests have begun on one of the Quark variants, the Moto Turbo.
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Yeah, I just wish we had a BL unlock back then. But no matter how great CM13 will be. I will be dumping it and switching back to Computerfreeks ROM if MM is released for the Turbo. Moto Display is a nonexchangeable commodity. Ambient Display just doesn't match up to how simple Moto Display is.
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Considering Skrilax brought Lollipop to Quark devices before Motorola did, I'd say we can count in him. Especially since soak tests have begun on one of the Quark variants, the Moto Turbo.
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Just leaving this here:
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Otherwise, camera shim we need is only this and not victara hacks: "https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_quark/blob/cm-13.0/libshims/moto_camera.c and I've not noticed we'd need to turn off video stabilization.
btw. I somehow missed that in cm-12.1, when recording video, there is a distortion in the sound. Same goes for cm-13.0.
Otherwise, looks like with that all basic features are working
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He and @baybutcher27 are trading notes on CM13.
Aravindtop said:
Yeah, I just wish we had a BL unlock back then. But no matter how great CM13 will be. I will be dumping it and switching back to Computerfreeks ROM if MM is released for the Turbo. Moto Display is a nonexchangeable commodity. Ambient Display just doesn't match up to how simple Moto Display is.
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I miss the Moto features greatly as well; CF was porting over the Moto features to work with one of his ROMs, but he discontinued it for now. (Due to personal matters)
I'm hoping someone picks up on his work and successfully ports them into a flash able zip. Once it works on one ROM, it should work on all.
That would make this phone 10000% perfect for me.
[Moto MAXX XT1225 / Droid Turbo XT1254][PREVIEW] CyanogenMod 13.0
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot.../moto-maxx-xt1225-droid-turbo-xt1254-t3315912
Very tempted!
Wife's HTC M8 got the 6.0 update today. We should be close behind. Need to rsd lite to OEM. Could VZW make 6.0 lock our bootloaders?
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So has anyone gotten actual confirmation that the verizon XT1254 will get MM? I know Moto says Droid Turbo but after what happened with the 2014 X, how are we to trust that MM will come to the carrier version of the turbo?
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So has anyone gotten actual confirmation that the verizon XT1254 will get MM? I know Moto says Droid Turbo but after what happened with the 2014 X, how are we to trust that MM will come to the carrier version of the turbo?
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I hear u I still have my droid maxx and that was suppose to get lollipop for almost two years before they finally just came out and said it's not happening. Thank God I finlaly gave up and bought a turbo at least I have an unlocked bootloader with this
With previous phones there's always been custom roms released that bring customizing of pretty much everything. Loads of settings.. Status bar for instance, change the front, color, clock location etc.
Why is there none for the turbo, is it not possible?
I assume you have the DROID Turbo XT1254?
Is your bootloader unlocked? Are you rooted? If so...
List here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/development/roms-t3347701
Location here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx
The Quark forums (XT1254 Droid Turbo/XT1250 U.S. Moto Maxx/XT1225 Moto Maxx/XT1225 Moto Turbo) were split last September 2015 into two forums because locked-down Droid Turbo XT1254 owners didn't want to see any dev work for the booloader unlocked Quarks (Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo -- YES, there's another Quark called "Turbo") in their forum.
So, due to XT1254 user requests XDA mods physically removed all the custom ROMs, kernels, etc for the bootloader unlocked Quarks and transferred them to another forum, called the "Moto Maxx" forum.
Ironically, less than two months later, in November 2015 Sunshine exploit unlocked the Droid Turbo bootloader (for SUTL-44). Suddenly Droid Turbo users WANTED all this dev work... but it's mostly still posted over in the OTHER Quark forum.
The Quark CM dev graciously replicated CM threads back over here even after being thrown out, but still most people go over there to discuss.
Some XT1254 users said they have now requested the forums be joined again, but I think it's low on the list of XDA mod priorities. Especially now that the recent OTA (SUTL-49) has locked out Sunshine procrastinators, less and less Droid Turbo XT1254 owners can participate.
Ahh that explains it. Thank you very much for the explanation and links. Yes I'm unlocked, rooted and running cm for now.