Guys what do you think? Will it come or not.
Im speccially interestet in the P9+. But i dont like the software of this device.
At least not until Huawei releases the source of the P9+. And, it's known that Huawei only releases the basics needed to be GPL compliant. It could take a few months before development really starts for this device. Unofficial ports will be available, official CyanogenMod versions.... We'll see
I understand that problem. I still hope..
First of all we need:
- An Unlocked Bootloader
- Release of Kernel Sources
- TWRP (Custom Recovery)
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What affect would any rom development have on proprietary drivers/software for the Leica cameras ?
I personally dont care much about the kamera
Tiz92 said:
I personally dont care much about the kamera
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Thats fair enough.
What is the custom rom scene for other Huawei smartphones like eg P8 & Mate 8 ?
SlyUK said:
Thats fair enough.
What is the custom rom scene for other Huawei smartphones like eg P8 & Mate 8 ?
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No AOSP Stock Roms
Tiz92 said:
Guys what do you think? Will it come or not.
Im speccially interestet in the P9+. But i dont like the software of this device.
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Unfortunately I do not think that you'll get CyanogenMod for this device even unofficially ... especially because the processor is Kirin and not Qualcomm !
Qualcomm provides source code for development, that's why almost all Qualcomm devices has CM officially or unofficially.
To bring CM for this device isn't impossible ... but it requires a very very good developer ....
You can take a look on P7 and P8 to see if CM exist ... if Yes, then you can hope ... P6 have a CM-11.0 ported of me , but is not 100% fixed .
I hope that a good developer will be here ( sooner or later ) to bring CM for P9 and/or P9+
Best regards !
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Unfortunately I do not think that you'll get CyanogenMod for this device even unofficially ... especially because the processor is Kirin and not Qualcomm !
Qualcomm provides source code for development, that's why almost all Qualcomm devices has CM officially or unofficially.
To bring CM for this device isn't impossible ... but it requires a very very good developer ....
You can take a look on P7 and P8 to see if CM exist ... if Yes, then you can hope ... P6 have a CM-11.0 ported of me , but is not 100% fixed .
I hope that a good developer will be here ( sooner or later ) to bring CM for P9 and/or P9+
Best regards !
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But is a good developer also able to port CM without sources? Sorry for my ignorance, im studying biotechnology, not informatics :silly:
Sadly there is no CM for the p9.
Tiz92 said:
But is a good developer also able to port CM without sources? Sorry for my ignorance, im studying biotechnology, not informatics :silly:
Sadly there is no CM for the p9.
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very well your question
Indeed, is not a build of cm but rather a port of cm , because lack of source code ... with only kernel source code provided from Huawei, you'll not be able to build and run cm in your device !
Hope you understand !
It is not entirely impossible.
However, I am lucky to own a Huawei Honor 4C and P8 Lite. Both have HiSilicon Kirin 620 SoC. And this the only Kirin version which is officially supported by Google and thus has kernel source codes and AOSP 6.0 and 5.1.1 source codes available. Although, it's still difficult to port as RIL is the only thing which isn't fixed and requires dirty framework hacks.
As for P9, from kernel source codes, you might be able to compile kernel compatible with CyannogenMod and also might be able to get it to boot but the Huawei proprietary stuff such as NFC, Fingerprint Support, etc, they will never ever work because they rely on source codes which unfortunately Huawei are not obliged to release. And yeah, you'll lose Leica features and other proprietary camera things. If you love CM or AOSP and can't live without that, stay away from this device or you'll regret your decision.
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First of all we need:
- An Unlocked Bootloader
- Release of Kernel Sources
- TWRP (Custom Recovery)
Additionally:
What affect would any rom development have on proprietary drivers/software for the Leica cameras ?
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- Huawei has an official Bootloader Unlock Program for all their devices so don't worry about that.
- Kernel Sources - Under the GPL they'll be released but they would be a complete mess. For all the kernel sources from Huawei I have tested so far, none of them compiles. (and you would laugh at literally 10000 C errors that spawn up while building).
- TWRP - You'll get that easily. That's a no brainer.
- You'll lose proprietary stuff for Leica, NFC, Fingerprint Support, IR blaster, and many others. (All this mentioned stuff won't even work)
mfbcool said:
It is not entirely impossible.
However, I am lucky to own a Huawei Honor 4C and P8 Lite. Both have HiSilicon Kirin 620 SoC. And this the only Kirin version which is officially supported by Google and thus has kernel source codes and AOSP 6.0 and 5.1.1 source codes available. Although, it's still difficult to port as RIL is the only thing which isn't fixed and requires dirty framework hacks.
As for P9, from kernel source codes, you might be able to compile kernel compatible with CyannogenMod and also might be able to get it to boot but the Huawei proprietary stuff such as NFC, Fingerprint Support, etc, they will never ever work because they rely on source codes which unfortunately Huawei are not obliged to release. And yeah, you'll lose Leica features and other proprietary camera things. If you love CM or AOSP and can't live without that, stay away from this device or you'll regret your decision.
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- Huawei has an official Bootloader Unlock Program for all their devices so don't worry about that.
- Kernel Sources - Under the GPL they'll be released but they would be a complete mess. For all the kernel sources from Huawei I have tested so far, none of them compiles. (and you would laugh at literally 10000 C errors that spawn up while building).
- TWRP - You'll get that easily. That's a no brainer.
- You'll lose proprietary stuff for Leica, NFC, Fingerprint Support, IR blaster, and many others. (All this mentioned stuff won't even work)
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How about having a debloated custom rom based on stock - Would that be possible & would that effect proprietary stuff mentioned above ?
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How about having a debloated custom rom based on stock - Would that be possible & would that effect proprietary stuff mentioned above ?
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Those are the only ROMs Huawei HiSilicon phones get. A debloated custom ROM based on Stock. That wouldn't effect any of the proprietary stuff. Only useless apps are removed which do not effect phone performance or capabilities. Personally, I debloat them myself rather than relying on Stock based ROMs. It doesn't make a great difference.
Tiz92 said:
Guys what do you think? Will it come or not.
Im speccially interestet in the P9+. But i dont like the software of this device.
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why would you want genocidemod ? what is wrong with Emui ??
XDADEVX said:
why would you want genocidemod ? what is wrong with Emui ??
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Because I dont like bloatet, ugly non AOSP Software.
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Because I dont like bloatet, ugly non AOSP Software.
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Come oon don't be childish..
Emui is best OS.. Skin
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Come oon don't be childish..
Emui is best OS.. Skin
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Im not childish really. I simply dont like Emui, neither touch wiz or any other oem skin..
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Come oon don't be childish..
Emui is best OS.. Skin
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I do respect your opinion but really... EMUI is best??? Oh man!!! That's seriously gross.....
hahaha have been reading and laughing at this pages comments...actually that's why the android gods invented 'LAUNCHERS' i have the P9 and yes there is a little bloat on it but nothing that really makes you think...WOW i really need to clean this device up...yes EMUI is basically IOS with a different title...but it also does have a few quirks worth keeping...every OEM skin does...including touchwizz...and i am no fan of sh!tsung myself and never have been...as for the camera...just about every time i use it i get more and more impressed with it,especially the monochrome mode seriously makes you feel like a professional photographer,build quality is also seriuously good they didn't pull any punches there.the new fingerprint scanner which also maps your fingerprint ridges in 3D...is even more impressive than the one on the nexus 6p,it has NFC which means when USA finally get a version available it will support android pay,huawei said that the lazer auto focus means you do not need OIS and so far after a few days they are correct,shooting video...different story it's really needed for that...and no 4K recording which is a bummer,if it had these two options in the specs it may well justify the price tag
[Quick OTE=mfbcool;66272493]I do respect your opinion but really... EMUI is best??? Oh man!!! That's seriously gross.....[/QUOTE]
It is done same way as iOS no app draw so? If i told you apple did emui you would go woooow amazing..
What is so wrong where are the issuse I really don't undersyand ppl.. Everything works as it should..
Why u not complaining on ios where is all the same as on huawei emui..
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Can we expect cm13 for honor 5c
It's hard to determine, nothing available yet (kernel source, device tree, bootloader unlock).
as honor and xda are now tied up we can expect it soon.
morover being kirin it would be a hard time for them
anyways i think yhe source code is aldredy availabe at huawei site.
venom007 said:
as honor and xda are now tied up we can expect it soon.
morover being kirin it would be a hard time for them
anyways i think yhe source code is aldredy availabe at huawei site.
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I don't see a 5C kernel source there, is it named differently?!
No,you are all wrong!
The Bootloader can be unlocked easily by now.I'm a Chinese,lots of instructions are on our websites.And the TWRP for Honor 5C is already available.
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I don't see a 5C kernel source there, is it named differently?!
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The kernel source is available,but named differently. The Huawei p9 Lite and Honor 5C share the chipset and kernel source. I noticed that there were defconfigs of "nemo" next to my "venus" ones. And only recently did I discover that the codename for the 5C is "Nemo".
Even the previous generation of the Huawei P line uses the CM device and vendor tree of a Honor 4C or something,because they are identical inside.
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Go check on my github for the device tree,and XePelato for the kernel source.
Although the kernel source is there,it is tricky to build(only two people managed to build it...)
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The kernel source is available,but named differently. The Huawei p9 Lite and Honor 5C share the chipset and kernel source. I noticed that there were defconfigs of "nemo" next to my "venus" ones. And only recently did I discover that the codename for the 5C is "Nemo".
Even the previous generation of the Huawei P line uses the CM device and vendor tree of a Honor 4C or something,because they are identical inside.
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Go check on my github for the device tree,and XePelato for the kernel source.
Although the kernel source is there,it is tricky to build(only two people managed to build it...)
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Ok, thanks for the infos
The Marionette said:
The kernel source is available,but named differently. The Huawei p9 Lite and Honor 5C share the chipset and kernel source. I noticed that there were defconfigs of "nemo" next to my "venus" ones. And only recently did I discover that the codename for the 5C is "Nemo".
Even the previous generation of the Huawei P line uses the CM device and vendor tree of a Honor 4C or something,because they are identical inside.
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Go check on my github for the device tree,and XePelato for the kernel source.
Although the kernel source is there,it is tricky to build(only two people managed to build it...)
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If someone wants to compile the kernel, it's here: https://github.com/XePeleato/android_kernel_huawei_venus
The instructions are inside, if someone could report if it works, I'd really appreciate it.
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If someone wants to compile the kernel, it's here: https://github.com/XePeleato/android_kernel_huawei_venus
The instructions are inside, if someone could report if it works, I'd really appreciate it.
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It builds.
The product we should add the ramdisk to is the "Image" file or the "Image.gz" file?
Image
I'm sorry but I see this too late.I have a Honor 5C with 3GB RAM(NEM-AL10).I can test it on my phone.Can you try it?
I advice you to wait for a more stable custom ROM
Waiting eagerly for a stable build
krispy321 said:
Waiting eagerly for a stable build
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yeah me too, am just sick of laggy emui
venom007 said:
yeah me too, am just sick of laggy emui
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Same here.
BTW your themes are nice @venom007
krispy321 said:
Same here.
BTW your themes are nice @venom007
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haha, themes are just for the looks, its still poor RAM management and optimisation from emui side that cant be changed via a LAYER or THEME
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haha, themes are just for the looks, its still poor RAM management and optimisation from emui side that cant be changed via a LAYER or THEME
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Ya, maybe they would improve in emui5
krispy321 said:
Ya, maybe they would improve in emui5
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hope so
gopikrishnachowdaru said:
Can we expect cm13 for honor 5c
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I think as long as root is available, I will even stick to stock rooted. As long as I get root, I'm set.lol
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There is a guy bring the device tree so you can probably see cm13 on this phone soon or now look up the work he has done to bring the CyanogenMod to the honour 7 really good job
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/development/rom-t3500171
Okay some of you will have seen the meticulous made various builds, cyanogen 13, beanstalk 6.25 and lineage 14.1 for his p9 lite. The chipset is the Hi6250 exactly the same as the honor 5c. So these builds install and run just as well on either phone. Now my question is, could you install the latest p9 lite firmware(with emui 5 + nougat) on the 5c??? Obviously it won't be that simple and I guess you'll need to use his modified twrp recovery you flash it.
Does anyone know if this can be done and explain how??
That being said I have a little feeling of ill ease that I'm going to be ? shot down in flames for asking such a ridiculous question. Please be gentle(if you never ask questions you can never fully learn)
Thanks honorable people's
Hell no.
It is different with the CM builds - they are written for Hi6250 and the Huawei/Honor originals are made strictly for a product. You can't even use Nem-22 on Nem-21 because of the basebands and stuff.
If you want Nougat use tread by Schizmatyk.
I am on this Beta now and is actually nice
am i only one who thinks honor 7 lite is good even on android 6? sure emui 5 has better theme imo.
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am i only one who thinks honor 7 lite is good even on android 6? sure emui 5 has better theme imo.
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I am too.
Everybody here is saying that wating for a custom rom for p8lite2017 is a waste of time because huawei doesn't release the sources, then why does honor 8 have so many custom roms for it ? It has EMUI 5 just like us, it's made by the same company in the same year, how did the devs manage to make roms for it ??
Honor 8 source code is released, for P8 Lite 2017 isn't.
MobileTechArena said:
Honor 8 source code is released, for P8 Lite 2017 isn't.
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Ah.. i didn't know that, i thought HUAWEI didn't release sources at all, thank you for the information
Some developers (also I) take the data of the devices which they own. They do not need the official resources. Therefore, there is not custom rom also from devices his resources were published. I build my custom rom when android 8 is released.
ChinHon said:
Some developers (also I) take the data of the devices which they own. They do not need the official resources. Therefore, there is not custom rom also from devices his resources were published. I build my custom rom when android 8 is released.
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I'd be glad if we can get even just a custom kernel..But if we do get a custom rom, then all the more better!
AOSP based rom <3 <3 <3
what about K rom in honor 6x dose it compatible with our device ?
K-rom
boofman said:
I'd be glad if we can get even just a custom kernel..But if we do get a custom rom, then all the more better!
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I already work some time on a EMUI 5 custom rom. Alike for Honor 6x. Only of the Kernel is not enough. We also need 100% Recovery. There is not that.
ChinHon said:
I already work some time on a EMUI 5 custom rom. Alike for Honor 6x. Only of the Kernel is not enough. We also need 100% Recovery. There is not that.
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True. Our Recovery isn't that all stable and consistent. I am not really expecting too much from this phone since its a budget device, and I got most of the things I want and need to work: root, busybox, Viper4Android. The TWRP is a bonus, even if its in a semi-usable state.
It's great if we can have Custom ROMs, but even just a custom kernel will suffice for now.
OFFTOPIC: On another note, I am hoping that Xposed will somehow work for Android 7 onwards. Even without a Custom ROM, that will open a lot of doors for customization.
When source codes get released you can find them here: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/opensource/
When I search for PRA, which I think is your phone model, I can get sources. Seems like sources are available for your phone
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When source codes get released you can find them here: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/opensource/
When I search for PRA, which I think is your phone model, I can get sources. Seems like sources are available for your phone
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I think that's it, i was looking there yesterday and there was nothing under PRA.
You can have the Kernel with pleasure. Comes from the B110. Use on own risk.
https://mega.nz/#!ZldRWApK!Tjs9RFIM0ybTnp7GiWdbUd9WykCSfggUxDkK3lEx6pI
Was modified from kangvip.
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You can have the Kernel with pleasure. Comes from the B110. Use on own risk.
https://mega.nz/#!ZldRWApK!Tjs9RFIM0ybTnp7GiWdbUd9WykCSfggUxDkK3lEx6pI
Was modified from kangvip.
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Is this compatible with B160?
Also, do we have changelogs? TIA
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When source codes get released you can find them here: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/opensource/
When I search for PRA, which I think is your phone model, I can get sources. Seems like sources are available for your phone
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OMG LOL the sources are available, thank u man!
Hi folks, anyone with stock room for p8 lite 2017 PRA-LX1. I would like to use the d load method to have my dual Sim working. Pls help with the right link. I don't want to root the phone. Kindly assist. Thanks a lot
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Hi folks, anyone with stock room for p8 lite 2017 PRA-LX1. I would like to use the d load method to have my dual Sim working. Pls help with the right link. I don't want to root the phone. Kindly assist. Thanks a lot
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https://mobiletech360.co/huawei-p8-lite-2017-stock-firmwarerom-android-7-nougat-pra-lx1/
Oh we do have them guys... we do have them..
Is this influenced by Project Treble ?
You'll be able to run a stock rom via treble just like you can with the p10/mate10. That said, why would you want to? The camera will be straight trash on a custom rom.
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You'll be able to run a stock rom via treble just like you can with the p10/mate10. That said, why would you want to? The camera will be straight trash on a custom rom.
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It depends on what you take from this question:
1) Custom ROM based on EMUI, or
2) Custom ROam built from source.
If the P10 or Mate 10 series is anything to go by, there won't be many if any options of EMUI based customised ROMs. However, with the work that PHH is doing, he has stated earlier today (to a question of mine) that he will be looking to have his treble builds support the P20 Pro.
On Source built custom ROMs, you might loose things like the camera however there is also a potential that this could be ported over. Again, PHH has done some work to port over the Huawei camera to the Mate 10 etc but he also said he wouldn't be looking at this for the P20 Pro. Might be that we have to hope for someone else to try this task, I know I don't have the skill set for it.
Treble will definitely make it easier. However, it would still be helpful to get kernel sources released in a timely manner and encourage Devs to get this device / encourage Huawei to give devices to know quality developers.
In the meantime I would ask that people tweet or otherwise get in contact with Huawei to release kernel sources ASAP.
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Expect nothing. Sell that crap and buy Nokia 3310. There is latest CM for it every day.
I'm not too concerned about a full custom ROM to be honest. Root is my main concern for minor tweaks and ad blocking etc
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It depends on what you take from this question:
1) Custom ROM based on EMUI, or
2) Custom ROam built from source.
If the P10 or Mate 10 series is anything to go by, there won't be many if any options of EMUI based customised ROMs. However, with the work that PHH is doing, he has stated earlier today (to a question of mine) that he will be looking to have his treble builds support the P20 Pro.
On Source built custom ROMs, you might loose things like the camera however there is also a potential that this could be ported over. Again, PHH has done some work to port over the Huawei camera to the Mate 10 etc but he also said he wouldn't be looking at this for the P20 Pro. Might be that we have to hope for someone else to try this task, I know I don't have the skill set for it.
Treble will definitely make it easier. However, it would still be helpful to get kernel sources released in a timely manner and encourage Devs to get this device / encourage Huawei to give devices to know quality developers.
In the meantime I would ask that people tweet or otherwise get in contact with Huawei to release kernel sources ASAP.
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- How does PHH's builds differ usually from Stock EMUI ?
Hopefully there will be a kernel or two being developed with any luck ?
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- How does PHH's builds differ usually from Stock EMUI ?
Hopefully there will be a kernel or two being developed with any luck ?
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I haven't tried it yet but it's properly stock aosp. No special features
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I haven't tried it yet but it's properly stock aosp. No special features
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Fair enough
(Shall press "Thanks" tomorrow)
Looks like custom rom hasn't gone anywhere yet.
Btw what is treble?
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twe90kid said:
Looks like custom rom hasn't gone anywhere yet.
Btw what is treble?
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Google project treble
https://source.android.com/devices/architecture/treble
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Huawei releases kernel source code for Kirin 980 and Kirin 970 devices on Android Pie
https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-kernel-source-code-kirin-980-kirin-970-android-pie/
This is such great news for custom ROMs, custom kernels and official twrp etc.
Now that our devices are having the ability to unlock the bootloader, I believe with the release of source codes custom development shouldn't be to far away.
It's exciting times for our devices. :good:
Hopefully we might see a treble lineage for our phones ?
Does this mean we could get a G-Cam port? Or is that a completely different kettle of fish ?
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Does this mean we could get a G-Cam port? Or is that a completely different kettle of fish
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Second that question
would a gcam port use the full potential of our Camara?