Cracked my 3rd back. - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just cracked my 3rd glass back since I bought this thing in January. I just ordered another replacement and I need some tips on how to properly attach it this time. The first two attempts didn't work that well - the glass panel didn't stick very well and started falling out right away. I scraped old glue out and wiped it clean with isopropyl beforehand. Is there anything I should do to get the glass properly attached to the phone this time?

Well, first off you should have gotten it repaired properly, as you clearly do not know what you are doing..
You will need the proper glue and sealant to make the back stick down properly, and will need to wait till the back glue is dry.
Thats as much help as I can give

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Help with the 4 Screw Method for Replacing Broken TILT Screen

hey everyone,
Recently I broke my tilt screen and was forced to purchase a replacement screen along with the necessary TORX screwdrivers and other tools to take apart the phone. After reading through this forum I have decided that using the 4 screw method would be a lot easier than taking apart the entire phone. I was wondering if there was anywhere on this site that demonstrates in detail how to successfull use this method. I have looked around but cant seem to find anything. Any help would be appreciated before I take apart my phone.
Thanks,
Austin
I've taken mine apart a few times, once to replace the screen as you're about to do. that being said, if there is a way to disassemble the screen with just 4 screws it wasn't apparent when I did mine, as there are ribbon cables etc. that need to be disconnected. It's actually not that hard to take the thing apart, I would go thru the whole process if I were you.
i did the four screw method.
Take the battery out.
Just take off the four screws on the left and right side of the back of the slide out screen.
Then using something that you can slide under the plastic housing on the edges around the back and pry it up and over the plastic pieces that snap the casing together. Try not to use a screw driver to pry it up, I used one and I bent the little plastic pieces and things wouldn't snap back together right until I got fed up and ground the bent pieces off.
Now the casing never comes completely off but it can be pulled apart enough to see where the lcd screen connects to the board. Just pop this ribbon cable off and slide the broken screen out and slide the new screen in connect it back to the board.
Snap the case back together and put the screws back in and your done.
Use a plastic diassembly tool and you wont bend anything. Without even trying, took me 10min total and I didnt even have guidance. Just take it easy and with the right tools, no force is needed. Just patience hardest think is trying to push in the ribbons with so little space.
LunaC said:
Use a plastic diassembly tool and you wont bend anything. Without even trying, took me 10min total and I didnt even have guidance. Just take it easy and with the right tools, no force is needed. Just patience hardest think is trying to push in the ribbons with so little space.
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Just took mine apart t he other day to clean arround the screen! I would advise doing the whole thing. Take your time and always keep track of what screws go where! Oh, and use a magnet to stick your screws to! If you bump the table and one goes flying, you will never find it! Take your time and keep track of where everything goes and you will be fine! Have fun!

Compressed air and screen dust

Has anyone tried taking a can of compressed air to the back of the Nexus One in order to try to clear dust away from the screen? I just want it off the center of the LCD screen, don't need to get it out as long as it's not that visible.
What about partially disassembling the phone (like taking out everything that doesn't require you to disconnect flex cables) and then blowing it with the air?
I managed to drop my phone a couple times and that seemed to have caused dust to get under the screen, but I don't want to take it apart completely until I've exhausted all other options. Returning it is also not an option in my geographic location.
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How would the air get into the screen from the back? Isn't it supposed to be sealed?
I wonder if you could move the dust under the screen with static electricity. Get one of those plastic rods like they use for demonstrations in chemistry class and charge it up. Then drag it across the screen over the dust. Just be careful not to discharge the rod onto the metal body of the phone...
Even if you did attempt this...
It would probably leave an unremovable sticky film. That's one of the reasons they tell you not to use it to blow off camera sensors, lenses, and CCDs (you're supposed to use a blower bulb). The compressed air isn't just pure clean air, it's got a bunch of bull**** in it. Not to mention it could quickfreeze the OLED parts and ruin the screen permanently. I would NOT try it. In fact, if you clean the back (battery, SD, SIM area) make sure you hold a piece of CLEAN 100% cotton (best if it's from a t-shirt) over the camera sensor or it will blow off the IR filter. Hope this helps.
I have done it twice. I posted pictures up on here on a different thread the first time around, which was probably 3 months ago. Send me a pm if you want the pictures. It wasn't horrible to do, but I don't know that I'd recommend it unless you're already experienced in these type of exercises. I didn't have any adverse side affects to the screen.
Here's the before and after.. I have pictures of the dis-assembly as well.
Oh yeah, I also found that a can of compressed air wasn't strong enough. I used an actual compressor set at 60-80ish psi I think.
@enisoc lol...
The teardowns online haven't said that there was anything sealing the screen and the front cover, but the cellphone shops here that I've asked have said that they would apply a sealant if I paid them to take the phone apart for me.
It looks like I can't get to the dust with anything short of a complete teardown :-(. I took the canned air to the back of the phone and it didn't do anything, but I also didn't disassemble the battery tray (no torx screwdriver).
@dhendrix11 if you took the phone apart, why did you still have to use a compressor? Couldn't you then just take something and wipe the dust off?
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@enisoc lol...
The teardowns online haven't said that there was anything sealing the screen and the front cover, but the cellphone shops here that I've asked have said that they would apply a sealant if I paid them to take the phone apart for me.
It looks like I can't get to the dust with anything short of a complete teardown :-(. I took the canned air to the back of the phone and it didn't do anything, but I also didn't disassemble the battery tray (no torx screwdriver).
@dhendrix11 if you took the phone apart, why did you still have to use a compressor? Couldn't you then just take something and wipe the dust off?
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I used a combination of compressed air and a microfiber cloth. I found that it was impossible to find an absolutely clean spot on the cloth, so it basically just put dust back on the phone. I mostly used the cloth to wipe off smudges when I accidentally touched the back side of the lens/touchpanel, and relied on the compressed air to remove the dust. Also, I didn't detach the lens from the phone frame, so it's hard to get into the corners (where most of the dust is) with a cloth.
The second time around I had a lot less dust and tried cleaning it without fully removing the LCD. If you take the phone apart, you'll understand why you might want to leave the LCD attached and simply lean it back from the lens. However, in the end, I didn't find that to be effective, so I took the LCD out both times. I've got a small amount of dust back in there again, but may 5-10% of what I had the first time, and I really haven't noticed it at all, even out in the bright sun, which was the environment that I typically found it most offensive.
As long as you have patience, it's certainly a do-able task. The main reason I did it myself is because it was early on before anyone was reporting confirmed success of getting HTC to fix the issue free of charge with an unlocked bootloader. I didn't want to chance getting billed for it so it was a nice little project instead. Now that many people have proven that HTC will honor hardware defects regardless of unlocked bootloader, I'd go the replacement route if there's not some other reason keeping you from it.
dhendrix11 said:
I have pictures of the dis-assembly as well.
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Please could you post? Thanks
GyTe said:
Please could you post? Thanks
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Disassembly 1
Disassembly 2
Full breakdown and then put back together
Hi dhendrix11 thanks for the pictures... I've saved everything on my pc.
Cheers
well, I ended up taking my phone apart too, using the iFixit guide and the Youtube video. Actually not as painful as I expected it to be, but for some reason I did not have a rubber microphone channel under the bottom mainboard, and I didn't have a screw at the top left of the top mainboard.
I also didn't take the screen out completely, just pulled it up a bit and used tweezers and a cloth to wipe everything off.
Now I have a like-new screen!

Cracked Glass Screen

A few days ago I cracked the glass screen on my Dinc. There wasn't any significant damage aside from the crack, and my LCD screen is working fine, so I ordered a replacement on Amazon thinking I could replace it. I found a screen which reviewers claimed came with the tools necessary to replace the screens, although the product did not advertise it as such. I made the order to find that the replacement did not come with any tools, and now I am stumped. Does anyone know where I can find cheap (and usable) tools to crack open my Dinc? I was hoping to finish this before I return to college in a few weeks and I'd rather not go back with a broken screen.
Thanks in advance!
Not sure what "tools" you're looking for, but there are only a few things you need to take your dinc apart (I just did this with mine):
1. T6 screwdriver to remove 4 screws on the big red cover
2. A small flat-head screwdriver to release block clips around the big red housing and pop it off. (also used to open up the ribbon cable clips)
3. small philips-head screwdriver to remove screws securing the main board and LCD
4. X-acto knife + hairdryer to remove the digitizer (the glass that you cracked)
Do yourself a favor and order the digitizer with the frame. It eliminates the need to pry the broken glass out completely. It is a little more expensive, I think I paid $35 for mine, but well worth the time and effort! All in all it took me about an hour to complete mine! BTW, I found and ordered all the parts and tools from amazon.
Sounds like you cracked the digitizer yet you ordered a new screen?
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Sounds like you cracked the digitizer yet you ordered a new screen?
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Although the sentence structure is somewhat ambiguous, it sounds like he bought the correct replacement part, a digitizer.
swatmedic911 said:
Do yourself a favor and order the digitizer with the frame. It eliminates the need to pry the broken glass out completely. It is a little more expensive, I think I paid $35 for mine, but well worth the time and effort! All in all it took me about an hour to complete mine! BTW, I found and ordered all the parts and tools from amazon.
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I'll vouch for this, it's the biggest headache to replace JUST the glass.
Since you already got the glass, you can go ahead and order a bezel by itself if you want... make sure you get one that has adhesive on the metal lip on the inside so the dust won't get in there
swatmedic911 said:
Do yourself a favor and order the digitizer with the frame. It eliminates the need to pry the broken glass out completely. It is a little more expensive, I think I paid $35 for mine, but well worth the time and effort! All in all it took me about an hour to complete mine! BTW, I found and ordered all the parts and tools from amazon.
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Exactly. I made the mistake of ordering JUST the screen and it was a complete headache. I subsequently ordered the frame/screen combo. Much easier.
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yeah i replaced mine but now i have trouble with the touch screen not working right. It randomly registers touches on the screen. Hope you don't run in to the same issue.
Glad to hear people are having success replacing these. I have a friend who's cracked his recently and will pass this thread on to him.
I replaced my screen with the digitizer/screen combo bought on amazon for under $20. it's a pain to install, but I found a good video on youtube and used their blowdryer method to make the glue more easy to manage and allow the screen to come off in fewer pieces. Also when you put the little ribbons back into their connectors make sure you get them all the way in - I had 256 color-like graphics for a little bit until I reconnected the screen properly
I've done it multiple times. I'm not clumsy, I just got the phone broken in the first place .
While it would make it easier to get the bezel, it can be done fine with just the digitizer.
They give you all the little plastic tools you need usually.
The last time I did it I used Krazy glue instead of very thin double sided tape.
I can answer any specific questions you have when replacing the digitizer if you want.
One request I have for you:
When I put the trackball back into place I wasn't sure if I did the correct order. It still works but it looks a little more recessed then it should be. Not a big deal, but it annoys me a tiny bit that my phone isn't perfect.
Could you record the exact order in which you disassemble it? It might even help you out later
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One request I have for you:
When I put the trackball back into place I wasn't sure if I did the correct order. It still works but it looks a little more recessed then it should be. Not a big deal said:
I just replaced my screen tonight with an amazon digitizer kit and my trackball is also recessed. Might just open it back up and jam some leftover adhesive underneath it. I would recommend buying the frame though as it was a bit of a b*tch prying broken glass shards and adhesive from the thing. Would also make the phone look better as well..
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i dont have a cracked screen but a very banged up bezel and battery cover. i calculated it and everything will cost me a total of $35 to replace. this includes the digitizer, bezel, battery cover and camera lens. cant wait to get this done.
thanks for the info on here.
Order the digitizer WITH the housing shell. I cracked my screen, too, and ordered the digitizer/screen only and ended up damaging my housing shell. The hairdryer trick is bogus and doesn't work very well, so spend the extra $10 to get the housing.
I was going to repare the screen to resell on Ebay, but since I broke the housing, I decided to just sell the actual AMOLED screen for $40. I'll find other parts I can sell, too, such as the motherboard and camera piece. Might actually end up making more money. Ah well.
I don't use Verizon anymore, which is why I ditched the DInc. Will miss it though. I do love HTC Sense. I have a Samsung Exhibit II now.
My first time doing this was with the digitizer only. Biggest mistake of my life! I could've made it work, but I was getting it replaced since it was bricked and superglue oozing out the sides might have raised some eyebrows. Digitizer+frame, void sticker, and 2 weeks later I had a "new" dinc.

Great, cracked the screen of my Z3 Compact

This morning I was cleaning my phone (getting rid of the finger prints/smudges) while standing up when it slipped out of my hand and hit the tiled floor. Everything is fine except the screen (which is cracked). Screen works fine but is unresponsive no matter where I press or touch the screen. How much does a Z3 Compact replacement screen cost? I searched around and it seems it is about $100?
Screen replacement costs in Poland +/- 135$
(authorised sony service)
Yes' it's hard to get original one cheaper than 100-120$. You can search for some Chinese replacement cause sometimes it looks quite similar to original one but You must check it before buying. Last time I had a client with Z1c replacement screen which he bought for 40$ and there was no white color, everything what should be white was purple.
Voids warranty, cheap replacement
Got mine from here replacebase dot co dot uk (can not post links ), of course you void your warranty if you do it yourself.
Parts are good quality till now. I advice to order a back glass too, I broke mine when taking it out and had to reorder again (costs approx 6 pound).
Next time just heat up back glass with hair dryer and You wont break it.
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Next time just heat up back glass with hair dryer and You wont break it.
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Thanks for the input
The problem was a small crack which did not matter until you have to remove it, you can not pull on it when its cracked. Anyway I will use a hair dryer to put it back together (assemble, heat up, press with books).
Thanks for the replies.
I'll be getting the repair done from the official Sony shop/distributor I bought the phone from. Just wanted to get an idea of how much it "should" cost before I approach them.
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Thanks for the input
The problem was a small crack which did not matter until you have to remove it, you can not pull on it when its cracked. Anyway I will use a hair dryer to put it back together (assemble, heat up, press with books).
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Hello
I have tried to change my backglass 3 times but after a few hours the glass falls off... (Yes, I cleaned the phone removing all the old adhesive - and yes, I had pressure on it over night ) But all the instructions I have found on the internet never mentioned anything about putting the glass on, and HEATING it up, and the putting pressure on it... Where have you found that advice? You could imagine that heating up would ruin the adhesive/making it thinner and thereby not waterproof...? But on the other hand your succesrate probably beats mine...
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I have tried to change my backglass 3 times but after a few hours the glass falls off... (Yes, I cleaned the phone removing all the old adhesive - and yes, I had pressure on it over night ) But all the instructions I have found on the internet never mentioned anything about putting the glass on, and HEATING it up, and the putting pressure on it... Where have you found that advice? You could imagine that heating up would ruin the adhesive/making it thinner and thereby not waterproof...? But on the other hand your succesrate probably beats mine...
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I think it was a comment below the iFixit tutorial. But one big warning here, I did extra maximally stupid and put it to 'press' under my table (with books around it). The table was too heavy and cracked my front screen once again :crying:
+ The rear glass sits fixed and has not loosened.
- Don't put too much pressure or you destroy it yet again like stupid me
m4mbax said:
I think it was a comment below the iFixit tutorial. But one big warning here, I did extra maximally stupid and put it to 'press' under my table (with books around it). The table was too heavy and cracked my front screen once again :crying:
+ The rear glass sits fixed and has not loosened.
- Don't put too much pressure or you destroy it yet again like stupid me
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Doh!!! ? I have also read on Ifixit and can see there are different opinions about if it is nessesary to heat or not. But I think I will follow your advice and heat the new back before putting it under (less pressure) ?.
Another thing I read on Ifixit is that someone writes that you should put on an adhesive sticker - eventhough the new back comes with adhesive already on...? What is your advice on this?
Most pre-glued adhesive stickers on back are useless. Now everytime I change back in Xperia Z, Z1, Z2, Z3 and compacts I need to remove pre-glued sticker and change it to original one. Many times I had complaint on it from my clients saying that back glass came off. So it's better to order original back glass or just original adhesive.
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Doh!!! I have also read on Ifixit and can see there are different opinions about if it is nessesary to heat or not. But I think I will follow your advice and heat the new back before putting it under (less pressure) .
Another thing I read on Ifixit is that someone writes that you should put on an adhesive sticker - eventhough the new back comes with adhesive already on...? What is your advice on this?
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Mine came with the adhesive ON the screen, I used that one, I didn't have a separate one. Be extra careful when 'placing' the adhesive where it belongs because you can not remove it once place (okay maybe slightly). Its important that it fits on the first to first and a half try. More adhesive means thicker layer --> glass will stick out
Anyway, most of the stories you read online are partially BS, the phone will work even when the glass is a tiny bit loose or when the adhesive rotated and is a bit thicker in one place. In my eyes, when you dared to order, you are very much capable of assemble the parts.
In btw, ordered new glasses today, hope my two left hands fix it this time.
PS: A lesson I learned on a friends Galaxy S2, do NEVER EVER try to use force when something sticks or is not as loose as in a video. Google or ask another person maybe you just dont do the trick. A connector didnt want to come off so we used a lever to lift it, CLICK, the place where the lever levered broke the board... :silly:
Edit 1: I think its not necessary to HEAT it, it just has to be a lil bit warmer than in your pocket or when calculating heavily. 30s under a hairdryer will be more than enough i guess.
Forgot to update this thread. I received my fixed phone last week. They replaced the screen and even the "bumpers" around the phone for $98. They even delivered the phone to my home free of charge. Looks brand new, all the minor dings I had on the phone are gone.
On another note, I also bought my first iPhone. Got an Space Gray iPhone 6s 128 GB with the official/Apple leather case for the 6s. Got it last Thursday. Been playing around with it a lot and, overall, I love it. Deciding on whether to keep my Z3 Compact as a back-up phone or just sell it. But geez, does the iPhone 6s load games and other apps fast (thanks to its NVMe storage).

My Z3 compact screen is falling out

So I like just about everything about the Sony Z compact line of phones but durability wise I have been unlucky. My first Z3 compact died from water damage and my 2nd one has a screen that is ready to fall off the device.
I choose to buy a HTC U11 to replace my Z3 compact as I have never owned a HTC phone before and thought I would try something different.
What I would like to ask here though is it worth trying to fix the Z3 compact to sell or not?
The only way to protect this phone:
The phone bends 0.1mm causes the phone screen to start opening. So it's not suitable for jeans pockets.
I remedied this by using an anodized aluminium bumper and tempered glass both sides.
Sony does a very bad repair of it's phones, and the issues will return, and their parts are expensive.
It is better to do it yourself and use B7000 glue, use plenty, easily removable for future repairs, no heat, clothes pegs, wait 48 hours before removing pegs or turning on the phone. And look for the best grade of screen with frame, Sony uses two manufacturers for its screens.
My Z3C has a screen that is lifting. This thread and others seem to indicate that fixing the screen is not hard but hardware is not my thing at all...
Would a phone repair place (in a shopping centre) be able to do this kind of repair? Is the phone much different to other phones that people would take in for screen replacements?
I don't care about the loss of waterproofing. The screen isn't even falling out, just lifted in the corner. I don't want to send the phone anywhere and be without it, or have it come back changed in unexpected ways...
a1291762 said:
My Z3C has a screen that is lifting. This thread and others seem to indicate that fixing the screen is not hard but hardware is not my thing at all...
Would a phone repair place (in a shopping centre) be able to do this kind of repair? Is the phone much different to other phones that people would take in for screen replacements?
I don't care about the loss of waterproofing. The screen isn't even falling out, just lifted in the corner. I don't want to send the phone anywhere and be without it, or have it come back changed in unexpected ways...
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Phone shops including Sony themselves have difficulty in repairing this particular phone, I think any phone shop can do this repair, but, they must use the B7000 glue or similar, or silicone, and not the red tape they usually use, it's useless, as this phone can heat up, or the blue z3c ready cut tape is not so good either. And if you get the wrong screen (clone), the colours will not be as good.
Many phone repairers have the clone screens that are thicker than the original.
The screen sometimes is actually bent, along with the body, check on a flat surface.
Always buy a good screen together attached with the body, and never by itself.
So armed with this knowledge and or hardware, you could go talk with a phone repairer... The first 3 times, shop, but maybe the fourth repair, try doing it yourself, it's as easy as opening a PC, just smaller, just follow z3c repair guides and youtube, when you're ready. When attempting to repair the phone, for the very first time, do it over hours, maybe over the weekend, and not one sitting.
If you start loosing patience, leave it for a while etc.
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I got so comfortable with opening my phone, I put extra 0.3mm copper plates on the processor and gpu with Cooler Master Extreme Fusion paste etc. Lol.
But it's good to have an already damaged motherboard to work on.
Z3C LOS Omni Oreo
My screen is still working fine. Just lifting.
I do have some old phones I could practice on, assuming they have the same glass sandwich construction.
I will go look for some videos...
a1291762 said:
My screen is still working fine. Just lifting.
I do have some old phones I could practice on, assuming they have the same glass sandwich construction.
I will go look for some videos...
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Z3C LOS Omni Oreo
I put up with my screen for a long time but eventually the glue gave out and I had no choice. It was good, then bad, but ultimately ok.
I didn't have any trouble taking the glass off the first time because the glue was barely hanging on. I had a look and noticed that the headphone jack's glue was also failing. Probably why it was becoming unreliable. I glued that and reseated the screen cable and it worked fine while sitting there so I glued everything on again.
It was a poor first attempt. I had both too much glue (blobs that leaked out) and not enough to actually seal around much of the screen. No problem. I took the glass off again and glued it again. This time I followed the instructions closer and glued the front screen before connecting the ribbon.
The second gluing was good but something with the ribbon was wrong because it only worked when I pressed on the lower part of the screen. Sigh.
Taking the glass off after a good glue was much harder. I finally got the spudger under the glass but I moved it sideways before removing the suction thing. It was too much pressure for the glass. The good news is that it was the rear glass and only the bottom half shattered. I got the rest off and started on the front.
Now that I knew to be more careful, I got the front off OK. Reseat. Test and working. I glued the front on first again, without disconnecting the cable. Tested and working. I glued the half back I had on (covers the camera).
Its working!
I use a case so the back isn't even a problem, but I ordered a new back from China (cheap). The headphone Jack seems better. I put a new screen protector on. In some ways the phone is rejuvenated.
I was apparently not careful enough when taking off the screen though. I appear to have some marks on my screen now. It's minor, probably won't notice during normal use, but there if you look.
I'm so glad to have my phone back. I've been using an iPhone for the last 3 weeks.
Thanks for the tips.
Edit: The hands free speaker works again too. Bonus

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