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[Q] UMTS/HSPA 900 + LTE Band 20 Flash ATT S5

I was hoping the ATT S5 would get UMTS 900 and LTE Band 20 (Europe Digital Dividend 800 Mhz), I was disappointed to see that it does not.
I live 45 min. North, Northwest of Philly and AT&T is the best carrier in PA - HANDS DOWN! I also travel every week, all over the US for work - and I'm very happy with AT&T in general. One thing I noticed on my S4 is that I could not get LTE in Burlington, VT on it - but I had full bars of LTE on my iPad Air. Side question; What band does ATT use for LTE there that the S4 don't support?
Anyways,
on the S4 I was able to activate AWS freq. for UMTS by flashing it. I need to do this for UMTS 900 and/or (pref. AND LTE Band 20, since I travel to Northern Norway all the time - and there is only UMTS 900 and LTE 20 some places there.... If I cannot have the phone flashed to have the current bands AND the wanted bands - would there be a way to flashing it back and forth from ATT to "Euro/International" mode?
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mgullvik said:
I was hoping the ATT S5 would get UMTS 900 and LTE Band 20 (Europe Digital Dividend 800 Mhz), I was disappointed to see that it does not.
I live 45 min. North, Northwest of Philly and AT&T is the best carrier in PA - HANDS DOWN! I also travel every week, all over the US for work - and I'm very happy with AT&T in general. One thing I noticed on my S4 is that I could not get LTE in Burlington, VT on it - but I had full bars of LTE on my iPad Air. Side question; What band does ATT use for LTE there that the S4 don't support?
Anyways,
on the S4 I was able to activate AWS freq. for UMTS by flashing it. I need to do this for UMTS 900 and/or (pref. AND LTE Band 20, since I travel to Northern Norway all the time - and there is only UMTS 900 and LTE 20 some places there.... If I cannot have the phone flashed to have the current bands AND the wanted bands - would there be a way to flashing it back and forth from ATT to "Euro/International" mode?
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AT&T uses bands 2, 4, 5, & 17 for LTE. Band 17 (700mhz) is what most of their LTE is on. That's why the signal is always good. I am starting to see Band 2 (1900mhz) in some areas. I saw Band 4 (AWS) in Chicago in a few areas (probably were capacity is weak).
Yes, with the S4 you could unlock the AWS frequencies. I do not know if you could flash UMTS 900 with an S4. You will not be able to flash anything with frequencies on the S5 as AT&T has locked down the phone entirely. It will follow in the Note 3's footsteps.
I think they discourage people unlocking their devices and using them on other networks. AT&T is forgetting what GSM is all about IMO. If AT&T LTE is not that important to you, you may want to consider the international variant which will support your European frequencies. It will NOT work on AT&T LTE though.
Hope I helped.

MattMJB0188 said:
AT&T uses bands 2, 4, 5, & 17 for LTE. Band 17 (700mhz) is what most of their LTE is on. That's why the signal is always good. I am starting to see Band 2 (1900mhz) in some areas. I saw Band 4 (AWS) in Chicago in a few areas (probably were capacity is weak).
Yes, with the S4 you could unlock the AWS frequencies. I do not know if you could flash UMTS 900 with an S4. You will not be able to flash anything with frequencies on the S5 as AT&T has locked down the phone entirely. It will follow in the Note 3's footsteps.
I think they discourage people unlocking their devices and using them on other networks. AT&T is forgetting what GSM is all about IMO. If AT&T LTE is not that important to you, you may want to consider the international variant which will support your European frequencies. It will NOT work on AT&T LTE though.
Hope I helped.
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AT&T is most important, as I am in the US 95% of the time. At least the S5 will have LTE 1800 and 2600. My hometown in Norway should get LTE 1800 later this year. So at least I will have GSM 900, UMTS 2100 and LTE 1800.
Do you, or anyone else know if AT&T will unlock Phones on the Next plan? I got the S4 full price, but I'm using the Next plan for the S5.
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mgullvik said:
AT&T is most important, as I am in the US 95% of the time. At least the S5 will have LTE 1800 and 2600. My hometown in Norway should get LTE 1800 later this year. So at least I will have GSM 900, UMTS 2100 and LTE 1800.
Do you, or anyone else know if AT&T will unlock Phones on the Next plan? I got the S4 full price, but I'm using the Next plan for the S5.
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They'll unlock it if its paid off entirely. But that doesn't mean you can't unlock it yourself.

[Q] What are LTE Bands for S5 SM-G900F International version

Hi,
What LTE bands are supported for Galaxy S5 SM-G900F International version?
For USA T-mobile and ATT I could find the info at
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900TZKATMB
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900AZKAATT
T-Mobile LTE Bands : 1/2/3/5/7/8/4/17
ATT LTE Bands : 1/2/3/4/5/7/17
Where to find info for SM-G900F?
Thanks

yoonus said:
Hi,
What LTE bands are supported for Galaxy S5 SM-G900F International version?
For USA T-mobile and ATT I could find the info at
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900TZKATMB
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-G900AZKAATT
T-Mobile LTE Bands : 1/2/3/5/7/8/4/17
ATT LTE Bands : 1/2/3/4/5/7/17
Where to find info for SM-G900F?
Thanks
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Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F:
LTE: 800, 850, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600
I guess it depends on which country you're in to determine what band applies. Those are the associated frequencies though.

Christopher3712 said:
Samsung Galaxy S5 SM-G900F:
LTE: 800, 850, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600
I guess it depends on which country you're in to determine what band applies. Those are the associated frequencies though.
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The international Samsung phones have yet to support america's LTE bands. I was really hoping that the Octa version would finally have worldwide LTE, but it turns out neither of the international S5 versions support LTE 4 or 17 (used on AT&T/TMo)

More than likely AT&T's way of forcing people to buy their version instead. This way people can't root, flash roms, or tether w/o a plan.

US variants and the I model ( Aussie model ) are the only ones that are LTE supported and are now pretty much all bootloader locked. Also all international models all come factory/carrier/bootloader unlocked too. Ive just moved here not long ago and dont really care for LTE so got my last 2 phones outside the country. I didnt realize about the bootloader lock until I got my S5 from ATT so Im hoping someone comes up with a method to unlock it.

xxhorseriderxxx said:
The international Samsung phones have yet to support america's LTE bands. I was really hoping that the Octa version would finally have worldwide LTE, but it turns out neither of the international S5 versions support LTE 4 or 17 (used on AT&T/TMo)
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Octa Version (G900H) doesn't have 4G LTE, only 3G. I have one of that here in Brazil.

canadian version
Looks like the Canadian version SM-G900W8 supports 8 LTE bands - which is all exept for the 800mhz (very common in Europe).
just google SM-G900WZKABMC-techspecs (cant post links)

Does your phone have to support every band a carrier uses for lte for you to be able to use lte on that network?
My s5 supports 5 of the 7 lte bands that att uses. Will I not be able to use lte at all with my phone?

Jayman007 said:
Does your phone have to support every band a carrier uses for lte for you to be able to use lte on that network?
My s5 supports 5 of the 7 lte bands that att uses. Will I not be able to use lte at all with my phone?
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AT&T operates LTE in band 2 (1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 17(700).

The T-Mobile bootloader is NOT locked and supports all the bands of AT&T and more. Plus, 900F roms work well on it if you keep the TMO modem.

So is it just a matter of changing the modems to get lte working on AT&T and T-Mobile with the 900F?
I just put a straight talk SIM (AT&T network) in my phone and I am reporting lte on my phone and getting download speeds of 15mbps +.

Jayman007 said:
So is it just a matter of changing the modems to get lte working on AT&T and T-Mobile with the 900F?
I just put a straight talk SIM (AT&T network) in my phone and I am reporting lte on my phone and getting download speeds of 15mbps +.
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No. I don't think that the 900F has all the AT&T and TMO bands so it would be hit and miss at best.
And you want the modem designed for the device because it will utilize whatever bands that device is capable of using.
If you are close to a cell tower, 4g can do 15. I'm close to a cell tower here at work and my LTE can get 58 down.

gspears said:
The T-Mobile bootloader is NOT locked and supports all the bands of AT&T and more. Plus, 900F roms work well on it if you keep the TMO modem.
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Does that mean you can just stick an AT&T sim card into a T-Mobile S5 and have all the same capabilities as the AT&T S5, and more (like an unlocked bootloader)?

phoneturf said:
Does that mean you can just stick an AT&T sim card into a T-Mobile S5 and have all the same capabilities as the AT&T S5, and more (like an unlocked bootloader)?
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Almost. When you receive the G900T it will be locked to the T-Mobile network (unless you specifically buy one that is unlocked) so you do have to get it SIM Unlocked first. This allows you to use it on any GSM network. I paid 20 bucks online because no one has figured out how to unlock it for free yet.
After that I installed Omega rom but kept the latest TMO modem. It works perfectly. I got 58 down on LTE at work the other day.

Any idea how to get it to connect to the 4G/LTE network with SM-G900F
Band 3
carrier subscriber to 4g Yes
Apn configured Yes
Screenshots:

From gsmarena.com (a great site for background info):
Samsung SM-G900F for Europe
Samsung SM-G900I for Asia
Samsung SM-G900K/G900L/G900S for Korea
Samsung SM-G900M for Vodafone
Samsung SM-G900A for AT&T
Samsung SM-G900T for T-Mobile
Samsung SM-G900W8 for Canada
NETWORK Technology
GSM / HSPA / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - all versions
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900F
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900A
HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900M
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - SM-G900T
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800) - SM-G900F
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 17(700) - SM-G900A
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 17(700) - SM-G900M
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 17(700) - SM-G900T

unable to connect to 3G, 4G network
I'm using Samsung galaxy S5 SM-G900F in Pakistan, my problem is that i use 3G and 4G services in Islamabad(Capital of Pakistan) and Rawalpindi (twin city of capital) my S5 works fine but whenever i go around the country, i'm unable to use 3G or 4G services. Its continuously show me that i'm connected with 2G network or EDGE enable network. i've done everything(updating- from 5.0.1 to 6.0.1, resetting, carrier switching,some other freaking tweaks) , bandwidth also the supported with carrier network. i'm tired with this seriously....:crying::crying:
PLEASE HELP ME OUT of this Problem....

[Q] Does Pure Edition support Fido/Rogers 3G/LTE bands?

I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.

busywaffles said:
I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.
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It will work perfect, 100%

Telus sells the XT1097, your looking at the XT1095 out the US just don't pick the AT&T model as it has a locked boot loader that seems cant be unlocked at all..... The Telus model, supposed to have the quickest updates... well thats a lie.... there is no update as of today... and no indication of when either...

I was able to buy a XT1095. I still haven't received it but now all I can think about is "What if I need to use the warranty for some reason?". Did anyone in Canada have to go through that?

busywaffles said:
I'm thinking of getting the pure in the US and using it up in Canada. Wondering if it'll work. I've heard mixed things about the LTE bands and some saying that 3G won't work at all.
Much obliged.
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I asked a similar question (but for Telus) on howard forums. This is the response i received o0vL
"Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mo SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17)
Telus Moto X Specs
4G LTE: (Bands 2, 3, 4, 5, 7,17, 29)
4G (HSPA): 2100MHz (Band I) / 1900MHz (Band II) / 1700MHz (Band IV) / 850MHz (Band V) / 900MHz (Band VIII)
Seems like the Pure Edition is missing band 29, where its available on the Telus version. Not sure if it will affect the LTE connection"
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On another thread on this site, someone mentioned that the hardware is the exact same on the canadian model as it is on the pure edition model, the only difference is the firmware. So it seems to me that a radio flash might be required in order to receive the proper bands. I'd love confirmation on this, as I plan on using motomaker in the US to build my phone.

BMelz said:
I asked a similar question (but for Telus) on howard forums. This is the response i received o0vL
On another thread on this site, someone mentioned that the hardware is the exact same on the canadian model as it is on the pure edition model, the only difference is the firmware. So it seems to me that a radio flash might be required in order to receive the proper bands. I'd love confirmation on this, as I plan on using motomaker in the US to build my phone.
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You can't actually change the modem files, you must you the original meant for the phone. The XT1095 supports all of the 2G,3G and 4G bands that Rogers/Bell/Telus/Fido/Virgin/Koodo/Wind/Mobilicity use in Canada. You don't need to do anything but insert your nano sim and possibly program the APN to get network data.

Steve-x said:
You can't actually change the modem files, you must you the original meant for the phone. The XT1095 supports all of the 2G,3G and 4G bands that Rogers/Bell/Telus/Fido/Virgin/Koodo/Wind/Mobilicity use in Canada. You don't need to do anything but insert your nano sim and possibly program the APN to get network data.
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thanks for the reply Steve, so the lack of band 29 shouldn't be an issue? LTE speeds should be achievable?
thanks again,

[Q] URGENT - Compatibility of Moto X 2014 with O2 in the UK

Hi, guys!
I am flying to the States for work and I am thinking about getting a 64gb Moto X 2014 and I was wondering if it´s a good idea.
I am living in the UK and I´m an O2 user, and according to this website, O2 has only 800 band right here:
"O2 spent £550,000,000 to secure 2 x 10MHz of 800MHz spectrum, but didn’t come away with any 2.6GHz and has no 1.8GHz either."
Moto X, according to the website, is compatible only with this LTE networks:
"Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mo SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 17)
So, my question is... Will I be able to use this mobile here in the UK? Will I find issues with the calls, the 3g or the 4g? Any problem with the bands, at last?
I swear I have been reading this morning a lot of articles but I'm a NERD in telecommunications
I would really appreciate if you guys could give me a hand here because I´m departing quite soon
Thanks in advance!

As far as I can 4g will not work because the phone does not support O2 bands but 3g should work fine.

hasm_747 said:
As far as I can 4g will not work because the phone does not support O2 bands but 3g should work fine.
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Thanks, dude... Isn´t there any way to make that work? Here they don't sell the 64gb and I really need that amount of space
Thanks again!

luismix said:
Thanks, dude... Isn´t there any way to make that work? Here they don't sell the 64gb and I really need that amount of space
Thanks again!
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It is a physical limitation rather than a software one. So most likely, there is no way to change/fix it.
EDIT: It seems that 3's and EE's 4g have compatible bands so if you are willing to switch to one of them it might work.
3 supports band 3 (1800 Mhz) same with EE.
SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
NOTE: haven't 3 proposed a buyout of O2?
SOURCE: http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/23/three-uk-acquisition/

hasm_747 said:
It is a physical limitation rather than a software one. So most likely, there is no way to change/fix it.
EDIT: It seems that 3's and EE's 4g have compatible bands so if you are willing to switch to one of them it might work.
3 supports band 3 (1800 Mhz) same with EE.
SOURCE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
NOTE: haven't 3 proposed a buyout of O2?
SOURCE: http://www.engadget.com/2015/01/23/three-uk-acquisition/
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Correct! I heard that 2 weeks ago and it's going to be great for O2 customers... 3 is now a HUGE company here in the UK.
It looks like I will end up getting it because it will work... And I don´t want to stay with O2 anyway
Thanks, guys!

Hey! Let´s go for the next level...
What about the Droid Turbo?
Bands
LTE Cat 4 (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13)
CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Carrier Aggregation (B4+13)
Any idea? I already decided to leave O2 and go to EE or 3, will I be able to use it with 1800 band?
Thanks again!

The Turbo have band 3, which should be compatible with 3 and EE, BUT I think it is carrier locked to Verizon and I am not sure if you can unlock it or not.

hasm_747 said:
The Turbo have band 3, which should be compatible with 3 and EE, BUT I think it is carrier locked to Verizon and I am not sure if you can unlock it or not.
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Awesome! Thanks! Moto X is my choice

[Q] Importing a droid turbo

Hello all, i have thoroughly searched the forum, but what i found sent mixed messages.
I currently own a moto x 2013 and have a pretty tight budget. I have found that the only phone that will fit my needs and is an upgrade is the droid turbo. (Not the moto maxx as it is too expensive)
Now, the problem is that i live outside of the US and i have gotten mixed messages about potential problems activating the phone. I have found a refurbrished unlocked one on ebay, but im afraid that it will not activate without a valid verizon sim card...
Does anyone have experience with this matter?
Thanks!

Xeroman0 said:
Hello all, i have thoroughly searched the forum, but what i found sent mixed messages.
I currently own a moto x 2013 and have a pretty tight budget. I have found that the only phone that will fit my needs and is an upgrade is the droid turbo. (Not the moto maxx as it is too expensive)
Now, the problem is that i live outside of the US and i have gotten mixed messages about potential problems activating the phone. I have found a refurbrished unlocked one on ebay, but im afraid that it will not activate without a valid verizon sim card...
Does anyone have experience with this matter?
Thanks!
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I use the Droid Turbo on Telcel in Mexico without any issues. It shows a warning about the "sim card not being from Verizon" whenever I reboot, but a quick swipe and it's gone.
It's a truly unlocked phone.
Hth,
Chad
Sent from my SM-T700 using Tapatalk

Same here, I'm in Canada, no problem with Virgin or Koodo.

Same here in Mexico, in which country you plan to use it? I think you only need to confirm the bands, the droid turbo does not have it all
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
CDMA 800 / 1900
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
4G bands LTE band 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 7(2600), 13(700)

Thank you all for your replies! Thanks to you, i ended up buying the turbo and i'm extremely happy with it . All i had to do was activate with wifi and boom, 2g, 3g and lte all with excellent reception!
Cheers