AT&T Galaxy S5 - Can I root after Marshmallow Update? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5

Hello forum,
I am one of the unfortunates that didn't root my phone prior to downloading the Lollipop 5.1.1 update. So I found out no root due to bootloader lock down. I have three questions:
1. When will the marshmallow update hit for AT&T S5 (900A);
2. After upgrading to marshmallow will I be able to root again; and
3. If yes, which root method will work on my new marshmallow S5?
I truly appreciate all the help! Thank you!

i saw on a leaked slide a while ago its been readyto be released since feb or march but prob wont be till may

Probably around summer would be a guess. As for root, it's highly unlikely for marshmallow

four loko said:
i saw on a leaked slide a while ago its been readyto be released since feb or march but prob wont be till may
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Thank you!

johnkirchner said:
Probably around summer would be a guess. As for root, it's highly unlikely for marshmallow
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Thank you John.

With AT&T branded phones do not expect being able to root, or unlock your bootloader.... You would probably discover the lost city of Atlantis before that ever happens.

I doubt any existing root method will work with 6.0, you'll have to wait for a new exploit to be found and released to the public. See this post in another thread:
muniz_ri said:
Unfortunately 6.0 requires the 6.0 bootloader in order to run. I believe Samsung has now completely achieved preventing root on locked bootloader devices with the release of 6.0.
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[Q] Not up to date with S5 at all. Update to Lollipop and keep root?

My girlfriend has an AT&T Galaxy S5. She's on Android version 4.4.2 (baseband version G900AUCU2AND3, build number KOT49H.G900AUCU2AND3). She's rooted with towelroot.
She's very keen on updating to Lollipop. The reason for this is that she's a very avid photographer and takes many shots on her phone. She is REALLY interested in trying out the RAW image processing.
I'd just like to know if she can update and keep root. So if anyone could help me out here or point me in the right direction since I don't know my way around this forum, that would be fantastic. Thank you very much.
Once we get a leak or the actual release, we won't know what Lollipop will have in store for the Dev's root wise. Everything now is speculative though the International version(G900F) has had good success with root and Lollipop.
Nucleartx said:
Once we get a leak or the actual release, we won't know what Lollipop will have in store for the Dev's root wise. Everything now is speculative though the International version(G900F) has had good success with root and Lollipop.
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I'm sorry, I just saw something after a quick Google that led to believe there *was* a release. So you're saying as of now, there's no Lollipop on G900, root or not?
harry_seaward said:
I'm sorry, I just saw something after a quick Google that led to believe there *was* a release. So you're saying as of now, there's no Lollipop on G900, root or not?
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The g900f, which is the over seas version, has had a limited release with lollipop. AT&T version, G900A, does not have lollipop yet.
harry_seaward said:
I'm sorry, I just saw something after a quick Google that led to believe there *was* a release. So you're saying as of now, there's no Lollipop on G900, root or not?
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No AT&T release as of yet, and even when (IF) it does drop and IF root is obtainable it is a longshot whether or not we will have SafeStrap or any other type of custom recovery

G900A Update 5.1.1

Anyone know will get the update 5.1.1 on G900A ?
machiavely said:
Anyone know will get the update 5.1.1 on G900A ?
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No, but considering T-Mobile already sent theirs out, i'm sure it won't be too long before it hits the AT&T variant
It's AT&T. We'll be waiting a while.
TheeDesecrator said:
It's AT&T. We'll be waiting a while.
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If it means the update doesn't "suck" i'm okay with waiting a while longer.
Now, will we have same rooting issue if we're on rooted 5.0 or do yall think it'll be more of a hot-fix than a bootloader update?
Skv012a said:
Now, will we have same rooting issue if we're on rooted 5.0 or do yall think it'll be more of a hot-fix than a bootloader update?
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Good chance that 5.1.1 will be completely unrootable on locked bootloader devices.
C0derbear said:
If it means the update doesn't "suck" i'm okay with waiting a while longer.
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Agreed, however, by that time, it probably won't matter for me. I highly regret taking the 5.0 update before doing root. I'm sick of not having the options I want with this phone and the daily freezes. As a long time AT&T customer with a grandfathered unlimited plan (not that that means anything, they throttle at 5GB, which I swear the FCC said was illegal), I'm about to eat the early termination fee and go to Project Fi with a Nexus 6.
muniz_ri said:
Good chance that 5.1.1 will be completely unrootable on locked bootloader devices.
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So wait for a dev flash like w/ 5.0. Gocha.
Skv012a said:
So wait for a dev flash like w/ 5.0. Gocha.
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What dev flash? Is there root possibilities on 5.0 on the G900A that I missed directly from Lollipop?
Skv012a said:
So wait for a dev flash like w/ 5.0. Gocha.
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Not likely, it appears the only way to root 5.1 will be a custom rooted kernel which is out of the question for locked bl devices. Seems the end of root access on locked bl devices is not far away.
muniz_ri said:
Not likely, it appears the only way to root 5.1 will be a custom rooted kernel which is out of the question for locked bl devices. Seems the end of root access on locked bl devices is not far away.
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What about porting international roms over to what is rooted already?
Skv012a said:
What about porting international roms over to what is rooted already?
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That's fine IF your already rooted.. @muniz_ri was making the point that phones are coming that are not root able with locked BL.
Take the S6 Active for example, not looking to promising.
TheeDesecrator said:
It's AT&T. We'll be waiting a while.
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Before Christmas I say.
New s6 active just got v5.0.2. So it might be longer.
I'm going to buy a Tmobile version of the S5...AT&T LB Sux...
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muniz_ri said:
Not likely, it appears the only way to root 5.1 will be a custom rooted kernel which is out of the question for locked bl devices. Seems the end of root access on locked bl devices is not far away.
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Well that is some sad news @muniz_ri. If you say you cannot do your usual magic, then i guess we are all sunk. I always check up on 5.whatever and it said it was out and i was hoping you would be able to modify it and keep the OA1 BL like you usually do....just to try it of course. Stock is not for many of us as you know. I will keep watching though. My installments are not done until 06-2016 and was hoping to maybe get an LG G4, but they dont seem to be having all that much luck with it, but i hear it is now rooted. by then, who knows. not a lot of money here. Thanks for you and others for keeping our device alive. I would never get an S6 or another Samsung I think. Between them and ATT, they are choking many of us. Ok, thanks again for all your hard work. Maybe u will come across something.

for the experts please help verizon s6 edge 5.0.2

hey guys, i bought a verizon s6 edge a couple days ago i love the phone however it does have a few bugs that are driving me crazy.
right now its on 5.0.2 and i use tmobile sim card on it. id like to install even the 5.1.1 update but it wont let me do it ota and i cant find it anywhere.
can anyone help with finding the 5.1 stock?
i also rooted the phone with ping pong and root checker says its rooted but flash fire says it isnt rooted....i just rather do the 5.1 update because im sure they fixed that problem but im open to any ideas.
THANKS in advance guys!!!
ronmz said:
hey guys, i bought a verizon s6 edge a couple days ago i love the phone however it does have a few bugs that are driving me crazy.
right now its on 5.0.2 and i use tmobile sim card on it. id like to install even the 5.1.1 update but it wont let me do it ota and i cant find it anywhere.
can anyone help with finding the 5.1 stock?
i also rooted the phone with ping pong and root checker says its rooted but flash fire says it isnt rooted....i just rather do the 5.1 update because im sure they fixed that problem but im open to any ideas.
THANKS in advance guys!!!
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When you root the S6 edge (any variant) PingPongRoot prevents OTA updates from installing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6-edge/general/of1-odin-g925v-tars-t3191419
Here is a link to the proper files to update to 5.1.1; just be aware it makes root impossible.
Snowby123 said:
When you root the S6 edge (any variant) PingPongRoot prevents OTA updates from installing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6-edge/general/of1-odin-g925v-tars-t3191419
Here is a link to the proper files to update to 5.1.1; just be aware it makes root impossible.
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super appreciate the help!!
another quick question.....so you think its better i dont upgrade?
im just looking for any version thats better than this 5.0.2 it does weird things....adds a 1 to any number i try to call back.
voicemail glitches and such.
ronmz said:
super appreciate the help!!
another quick question.....so you think its better i dont upgrade?
im just looking for any version thats better than this 5.0.2 it does weird things....adds a 1 to any number i try to call back.
voicemail glitches and such.
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It all depends. I would recomend that before you take the update and permanently lose root, try installing a custom ROM.
There are a variety of custom ROMs available for the Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge. They all outperform the 5.1.1 build.
Try finding one in the following subforum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6-edge/development
If one of these ROMs does not perform as well as you expect, just use Odin to install the official firmware.
Snowby123 said:
It all depends. I would recomend that before you take the update and permanently lose root, try installing a custom ROM.
There are a variety of custom ROMs available for the Verizon Galaxy S6 Edge. They all outperform the 5.1.1 build.
Try finding one in the following subforum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6-edge/development
If one of these ROMs does not perform as well as you expect, just use Odin to install the official firmware.
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thanks again snowby phonesaver!!:good:

help to root g920a 5.1.1

anyone know working method to convert system folder to system.img in windows or cygwin
There's no root for g920a because the bootloader is locked tight
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my G925A 5.1.1
It's a real shame
s6freak said:
There's no root for g920a because the bootloader is locked tight
"And on that bombshell!"
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Correctomunod!
Yeah, I just spent the past 3 days looking into rooting my new S6.
I got it barely a week ago and I was really excited to finally have a phone I could root, only to learn that I got the first new phone that you can't. I might have had a chance to keep 5.0.2? Whatever, but by the time I synced by Google account, I found out I had the 5.1.1 version, with no way to go back.
More experienced users, please correct me here. I am largely posting this to consolidate what I've gathered.
As I understand it, 5.1.1 prevents a clean downgrade to any other Android OS by just not allowing the option.
When I went to turn off automatic software updates, I was faced with an option to check for updates, or go "take a hike" per se. It seems like you may be able to flash a version that can be rooted for the AT&T version (G920A), but you trip the KNOX security thing which will void your warranty. From what I can see, a lot of people are just deciding to go without root, or go without the phone. I have seen a thread or 2 (out of DOZENS on this) that say methods may be in the works, but everyone seems too afraid to try anything.
Keep in mind that I say methods for a reason. Nothing seems to be cut and dry for us as AT&T users to begin with, but this 5.1.1 update when downloaded OTA and all legit and whatnot is a real death sentence for those looking to root.
I'm keeping my eyes and ears open for news, but we're going to have a while to wait before we get to join the fun.
DeerDance said:
Correctomunod!
Yeah, I just spent the past 3 days looking into rooting my new S6.
I got it barely a week ago and I was really excited to finally have a phone I could root, only to learn that I got the first new phone that you can't. I might have had a chance to keep 5.0.2? Whatever, but by the time I synced by Google account, I found out I had the 5.1.1 version, with no way to go back.
More experienced users, please correct me here. I am largely posting this to consolidate what I've gathered.
As I understand it, 5.1.1 prevents a clean downgrade to any other Android OS by just not allowing the option.
When I went to turn off automatic software updates, I was faced with an option to check for updates, or go "take a hike" per se. It seems like you may be able to flash a version that can be rooted for the AT&T version (G920A), but you trip the KNOX security thing which will void your warranty. From what I can see, a lot of people are just deciding to go without root, or go without the phone. I have seen a thread or 2 (out of DOZENS on this) that say methods may be in the works, but everyone seems too afraid to try anything.
Keep in mind that I say methods for a reason. Nothing seems to be cut and dry for us as AT&T users to begin with, but this 5.1.1 update when downloaded OTA and all legit and whatnot is a real death sentence for those looking to root.
I'm keeping my eyes and ears open for news, but we're going to have a while to wait before we get to join the fun.
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Yep agreed and that's why I just bought a new international 6plus Edge and selling my G925A
Once you've taken the 5.1.1 OTA update on either the G925A or the G920A that's it there's no downgrading or going back.
No root
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my G925A 5.1.1
Hey sorry to ask or thread Jack here...I just bought a used s6...unfortunately it has the of4 baseband but still on 5.0.2...so since I can't root with that baseband anyways should I just go ahead and update the phone to 5.1.1?
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lunercrab said:
Hey sorry to ask or thread Jack here...I just bought a used s6...unfortunately it has the of4 baseband but still on 5.0.2...so since I can't root with that baseband anyways should I just go ahead and update the phone to 5.1.1?
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Yep
s6freak said:
There's no root for g920a because the bootloader is locked tight
"And on that bombshell!"
Sent from my G925A 5.1.1
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I know the bootloader is locked I had extracted the stock 5.1.1 system.img and added root in it but I don't know to repack back to system.img so please help
jinishpv said:
I know the bootloader is locked I had extracted the stock 5.1.1 system.img and added root in it but I don't know to repack back to system.img so please help
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It can't be done
"And on that bombshell!"
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s6freak said:
It can't be done
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Not sure how this can be made any more clear. We have a thorough and two very simple explanations on the entire one page of this thread so far. I'm not trying to police it, but when I get updates for the thread, I'm hoping for something a little bit beyond the already answered questions yo.
I can only imagine devs are working on a miracle of sorts to change this fact, but it remains a fact until some magic solution is both discovered AND verified as far as I'm concerned.
jinishpv, I think you mean you compiled the .img file to Windows..? If so, MagicISO is a Windows app you can use to add, delete, extract or update files contained in an .img file. I hear what all of you are saying about 5.1.1 bootloader, and yes I'm in the same boat w/ safestrap rooted still on 5.02 of4, but jinishpv asked a tangent question and I didn't think it would hurt to help a fellow xda member out.
Any updates on this besides the private root being sold all over the web for $100-$120 each or $30 -$40 for remote unlock for G920A, G925A, G928A and G890A?
The good news thatotherguy.. found a way to root s6 and s6 edge. the bad news it is unstable. He's working on it with other devs. I'm assuming he/they will release it after the release after GS7 (to check if GS7 is vulnerable too?)
My G920A is working fine so far rooted on 5.1.1 OJ7 (yes I paid $40 for remote unlock LOL).
Apexseal said:
My G920A is working fine so far rooted on 5.1.1 OJ7 (yes I paid $40 for remote unlock LOL).
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Details on remote unlock?
buradd said:
Details on remote unlock?
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Yeah I'd like to see that myself.
Apexseal said:
Any updates on this besides the private root being sold all over the web for $100-$120 each or $30 -$40 for remote unlock for G920A, G925A, G928A and G890A?
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What's the website
Apexseal said:
My G920A is working fine so far rooted on 5.1.1 OJ7 (yes I paid $40 for remote unlock LOL).
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Prove you're rooted.
And if so where did you buy a "remote unlock" to unlock the bootloader.
I can root G920A 5.1.1. I will not give away the file, but I will root it for you.
PM me
Love from IMEI Rescue
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I can root G920A 5.1.1. I will not give away the file, but I will root it for you.
PM me
Love from IMEI Rescue
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Prove you're rooted.
And if so where did you buy a "remote unlock" to unlock the bootloader.
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Remote factory unlock can be done with a device rooted with a custom rooted boot.img

Are people working on cracking the AT&T G870A or is it a lost cause?

Are people still working on cracking the AT&T G870A or is it a lost cause?
If yes, how's it going?
I had a G870F but sent it swimming on 20m deep for three weeks. Needless to say it didn't survive.
Found the G870A and thought it was a bargain, however . . .
Pretty much a lost cause, most devs have moved on.
So the answer is not so straight forward. The current v 5.1 and above for the AT&T phones are not currently rootable. If you find a used or remanufactured S5 or S5 Active with 4.2 you will be in luck. I just had a problem with my Active found a replacement on the most popular buying and selling web site for around $230. Just make sure it has not been updated. If the seller is advertising it as 4.2 and you get it with 5.0 they must take it back if it's not what was advertised. Hope this helps.
If you want an S5 to tinker with you should get a tmobile variant the SM-G900T, or the international SM-G900M since the active model is basically a carrier exclusive they dont have any international ones that im aware of.
I dont understand the question of OP
I used a popular search and found rooted firmwares for the 870A.
Several people who replied have in their sigs that they have a rooted s5 Active..... I would think that to mean the phone has been "cracked" and isn't a lost cause.
darthmalus said:
If you want an S5 to tinker with you should get a tmobile variant the SM-G900T, or the international SM-G900M since the active model is basically a carrier exclusive they dont have any international ones that im aware of.
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Thanks, but I have bought the phone already. If I get another one or replace the one I have it'll probably be a European, G870F, the same modell I had before.
dosmastr said:
I dont understand the question of OP
I used a popular search and found rooted firmwares for the 870A.
Several people who replied have in their sigs that they have a rooted s5 Active..... I would think that to mean the phone has been "cracked" and isn't a lost cause.
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You could have rooted before 5.0. If you have the latest bootloader, it can't be done. That is why I suggested getting one that has pre 5.0 stock 4.4.2.
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Sgt.CM said:
You could have rooted before 5.0. If you have the latest bootloader, it can't be done. That is why I suggested getting one that has pre 5.0 stock 4.4.2.
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so its isn't the android version per say bu the bootloader that comes with it?
So one couldn't just flash a 5.0 firmware, is that what you're also saying?
pardon my ignorance, but when one flashes a firmware -- that wont impact the bootloader will it...
poop... i just got one of those and I'm all excited to get the att crap off there and see how much faster it gets... not to mention all the other things you can't run without root.... this ebay "deal" keeps getting worse....
dosmastr said:
so its isn't the android version per say bu the bootloader that comes with it?
So one couldn't just flash a 5.0 firmware, is that what you're also saying?
pardon my ignorance, but when one flashes a firmware -- that wont impact the bootloader will it...
poop... i just got one of those and I'm all excited to get the att crap off there and see how much faster it gets... not to mention all the other things you can't run without root.... this ebay "deal" keeps getting worse....
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When you update the firmware, it automatically updates the bootloader. Once that bootloader has been updated, it's locked down. No downgrading firmwares, rooting, or installing custom recoveries.
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stew1411 said:
When you update the firmware, it automatically updates the bootloader. Once that bootloader has been updated, it's locked down. No downgrading firmwares, rooting, or installing custom recoveries.
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Yeah, that's basically what I gathered after a lot of research online.
Some claim it can be done but when trying the method/software, it doesn't work.
I just wanted to double check since there is a lot of expert knowledge in this forum.
One thing i've been thinking though (not that I can do it): how about picking the phone apart
and wiping/replacing the bootloader manually?
North of the wall said:
Yeah, that's basically what I gathered after a lot of research online.
Some claim it can be done but when trying the method/software, it doesn't work.
I just wanted to double check since there is a lot of expert knowledge in this forum.
One thing i've been thinking though (not that I can do it): how about picking the phone apart
and wiping/replacing the bootloader manually?
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Well it's soldered to the board. You would need some highly specialized equipment to do it. Even then I'm not sure.
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Is this the case with both the G900A and the G870A. I'm in the market for either one since they are going for just of $200 new on Ebay. Are both phones now locked down of is the Active more problematic?
Both are locked down. AT&T and Samsung are being jerks to us and not even letting us have a developer phone to try to use like Verizon had.
roserez said:
Is this the case with both the G900A and the G870A. I'm in the market for either one since they are going for just of $200 new on Ebay. Are both phones now locked down of is the Active more problematic?
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If you are looking to root, then buy one that still has Android v4.4.2. They are available you just have to look for them. Don't put the SIM card in until you root or it will auto update and you can't go back.
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If you are looking to root, then buy one that still has Android v4.4.2. They are available you just have to look for them. Don't put the SIM card in until you root or it will auto update and you can't go back.
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Hi Sgt.CM,
I got my AT&T S5 on release day and never updated it. I have a SM-G900A with Android version 4.4.2! Is it possible for me to put CM13 with marshmallow 6.0.1 on there? I had assumed it was impossible...
Thanks,
Frozen
FrozenClear said:
Hi Sgt.CM,
I got my AT&T S5 on release day and never updated it. I have a SM-G900A with Android version 4.4.2! Is it possible for me to put CM13 with marshmallow 6.0.1 on there? I had assumed it was impossible...
Thanks,
Frozen
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Nope can't because of locked bootloader. The best thing you could do is too root with towelroot and then flash safestrap and install a custom rom from there.
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Nope can't because of locked bootloader. The best thing you could do is too root with towelroot and then flash safestrap and install a custom rom from there.
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That is what I thought. What are the custom rom options? Is there a rooted marshmallow rom for the s5 i can install?
Also according to these articles it is possible:
http://rootmygalaxy.net/install-cm-13-rom-on-galaxy-s5/
http://androiding.how/download-galaxy-s5-cm13-rom-marshmallow/
I'm guessing they may not be correct?
FrozenClear said:
That is what I thought. What are the custom rom options? Is there a rooted marshmallow rom for the s5 i can install?
Also according to these articles it is possible:
http://rootmygalaxy.net/install-cm-13-rom-on-galaxy-s5/
http://androiding.how/download-galaxy-s5-cm13-rom-marshmallow/
I'm guessing they may not be correct?
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Asked and answered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/help/sm-g900a-5-0-oc4-to-cm13-mm-roadmap-t3362993
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Asked and answered here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-galaxy-s5/help/sm-g900a-5-0-oc4-to-cm13-mm-roadmap-t3362993
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So what ROM options are available to me? Is there a list somewhere?
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So what ROM options are available to me? Is there a list somewhere?
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You can look in Galaxy S5 Android Development.

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