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So after relase Z2 i think about that it has the same hardware like Z1 and maybe it is possible to install Z2 system on our Z1?
Sorry, my English is poor
It not has the same Hardware! but many Features will be ported to Z1, same like the Z running ported stuff from Z1. Z2 was not released yet and before we see some porting you have wait long time. Now it's just a waste of time speaking about that. Z2 will be, maybe, on market this summer, then all will be ported to Z1 for the end of this year or early 2015.
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It not has the same Hardware! but many Features will be ported to Z1, same like the Z running ported stuff from Z1. Z2 was not released yet and before we see some porting you have wait long time. Now it's just a waste of time speaking about that. Z2 will be, maybe, on market this summer, then all will be ported to Z1 for the end of this year or early 2015.
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only thing I read different about z2 is 4k recording and that's it, we may get it since our camera may be capable but not sure
Is that possible to have android L on our xperia Z Really look forward to that
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Is that possible to have android L on our xperia Z Really look forward to that
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yes,wait the release for the developer & they will build it.
But it is still a developer preview
L's only two versions away. I'm sure we'll get a port or a CM rom sooner or later.
If any developer that I know of from Xperia Z, it will definitely be @pabx first to release Android L.
He was the first to bring KitKat over to Z in just a matter of days. In fact, it was not with some unusable build either. A full usable rom for daily driver.
Android L = Awesome Xperia Z !
Yes..!!!:good::good:
I totally agree with Android L being ported to Xperia Z....!!! It's much better than any software till now...
Here are the reasons;
Key Features:
Improved Notifications
Project Volta: Improved Battery Life (Needed for Xperia Z, due to battery drain issue in Kit Kat)
Google Fit...Competition for Apple's Healthkit
Better Web Integration
Runs on ART extension , (support for 64bit systems), (Dalvik is being ditched).
Since RAM usage will be less, and apps usage and loading time will be faster...
So lets wait for CM, PAC, Carbon...or some other developer till then...
Cheers...
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Yes..!!!:good::good:
I totally agree with Android L being ported to Xperia Z....!!! It's much better than any software till now...
Here are the reasons;
Key Features:
Improved Notifications
Project Volta: Improved Battery Life (Needed for Xperia Z, due to battery drain issue in Kit Kat)
Google Fit...Competition for Apple's Healthkit
Better Web Integration
Runs on ART extension , (support for 64bit systems), (Dalvik is being ditched).
Since RAM usage will be less, and apps usage and loading time will be faster...
So lets wait for CM, PAC, Carbon...or some other developer till then...
Cheers...
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But the image still not online
Check the videos in Google I/O.. They gave a brief peek on Android L...
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http://youtu.be/y9ue7TNpxS0 Looks so nice
Not impressed with it so far.
Auto Rotate toggle? Already on my stock 4.4.2
Adaptive Brightness? Already in all versions of Android.
Those are just two things I picked up on....
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But the image still not online
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and a built in flash player
Xperia™ Z (C6602) with tapatalk
I don't think that Sony will release an official build for the Z..
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I don't think that Sony will release an official build for the Z..
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Screw Sony then, we would get then unofficial ported ROM or sth. 'going to unlock my BL due this. I'd like to get this ROM
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Screw Sony then, we would get then unofficial ported ROM or sth. 'going to unlock my BL due this. I'd like to get this ROM
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Same here. Going to unlock my bootloader if the Rom has been released.
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Screw Sony then, we would get then unofficial ported ROM or sth. 'going to unlock my BL due this. I'd like to get this ROM
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I don't expect Sony to update Xperia Z to 5.0 - we will probably hear "you already received 3 updates, that's it folks".
IMO it shouldn't be about how many versions you receive - it should be about a timeframe. If your phone doesn't receive updates after 1,5 years, then maybe you should stop making new phones every 6 months if you can't manage to update them - and look at other companies like HTC, Samsung ( yes... ) or perhaps Apple who offers iOS8 to a 4,5 years old iPhone 4S.
Does my post sound like I'm angry with Sony ? Good, because I am...
KitKat was a disappointment. Been waiting almost a year and received nearly no new features apart from UI redesign which doesn't really matter to me anyway and tons of bugs, battery woes etc. To be honest - every single release had some kind of problems, especially with battery life...
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I don't expect Sony to update Xperia Z to 5.0 - we will probably hear "you already received 3 updates, that's it folks".
IMO it shouldn't be about how many versions you receive - it should be about a timeframe. If your phone doesn't receive updates after 1,5 years, then maybe you should stop making new phones every 6 months if you can't manage to update them - and look at other companies like HTC, Samsung ( yes... ) or perhaps Apple who offers iOS8 to a 4,5 years old iPhone 4S.
Does my post sound like I'm angry with Sony ? Good, because I am...
KitKat was a disappointment. Been waiting almost a year and received nearly no new features apart from UI redesign which doesn't really matter to me anyway and tons of bugs, battery woes etc. To be honest - every single release had some kind of problems, especially with battery life...
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KitKat's battery drain was not Sony's fault however. It was Google and Google Services, as with a previous version I cannot recall. Those kind of things are out of their reach since it varies from phone to phone with its version. I do agree however that there are some "kinks" that need to be remedied. I cannot understand why they refuse to unify most builds so they run similar applications. Like for example the stock KitKat apps (like Messaging and Settings) on my Z are totally different from Z2's stock apps running KitKat
Selling my phone right away if they announce the Z won't be updated to Android L.
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Selling my phone right away if they announce the Z won't be updated to Android L.
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Do it! you think that somebody of us will beg you to stop? or sony CEO will appear and give you android 100?
Just stop complaining kid, if you have enought money for an other phone just to have a better toy to play with, feel free and buy it, we don't care. And in 6 months you will complain again for a new update that roll out, and with a new Brand that won't provide it to you.
I bought xperia Z because I was fine on how it was, it had everything i needed and I liked it. Why you bought it if you have to cry? Or yo mean it was good until something new came out? that is so illogical. stop looking to the neighbour's grass and just be happy whit what you have.
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I don't expect Sony to update Xperia Z to 5.0 - we will probably hear "you already received 3 updates, that's it folks".
IMO it shouldn't be about how many versions you receive - it should be about a timeframe. If your phone doesn't receive updates after 1,5 years, then maybe you should stop making new phones every 6 months if you can't manage to update them - and look at other companies like HTC, Samsung ( yes... ) or perhaps Apple who offers iOS8 to a 4,5 years old iPhone 4S.
Does my post sound like I'm angry with Sony ? Good, because I am...
KitKat was a disappointment. Been waiting almost a year and received nearly no new features apart from UI redesign which doesn't really matter to me anyway and tons of bugs, battery woes etc. To be honest - every single release had some kind of problems, especially with battery life...
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Maybe it is all on purpose. Bugs, bugs and bugs but redesign UI and everybody is happy at the moment they upgrade it's firmware. And than, bitterness strike.
Maybe Sony wanna make XZ more and more buggy so it's users can look forward to Z2 or Z3, because XZ is still very capable of doing practically anything and is still strong and better phone than most 2014 mid-rangers and all Xperia non-Z models.
Yesterday I compared for couple of hours Z2 on 4.4.2 with my XZ 4.4.2. UI Smoothness is basically the same. WiFi/3G surfing the same, talk quality the same. Photo and 1080 video quality has very small improvement on XZ2. OK, sound quality, battery and screen are way better, but for common users like me, transition to XZ2 is freaking waste of money, except for battery duration. I switched in May 2013 form HTC Desire to Xperia Z and that cost me 100 EUR. Now, July 2014, transition form XZ to XZ2 would cost me 250 EUR. For what? Better AnTuTu benchmark score
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Maybe it is all on purpose. Bugs, bugs and bugs but redesign UI and everybody is happy at the moment they upgrade it's firmware. And than, bitterness strike.
Maybe Sony wanna make XZ more and more buggy so it's users can look forward to Z2 or Z3, because XZ is still very capable of doing practically anything and is still strong and better phone than most 2014 mid-rangers and all Xperia non-Z models.
Yesterday I compared for couple of hours Z2 on 4.4.2 with my XZ 4.4.2. UI Smoothness is basically the same. WiFi/3G surfing the same, talk quality the same. Photo and 1080 video quality has very small improvement on XZ2. OK, sound quality, battery and screen are way better, but for common users like me, transition to XZ2 is freaking waste of money, except for battery duration. I switched in May 2013 form HTC Desire to Xperia Z and that cost me 100 EUR. Now, July 2014, transition form XZ to XZ2 would cost me 250 EUR. For what? Better AnTuTu benchmark score
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Then you should get the g3 ? I think the g3 is a better upgrade than the z2 . Different ui , higher res , bigger screen but smaller size than the z2 . Getting a z2 or z1 for upgrade is like getting a slightly bigger screen size with more power .
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Do it! you think that somebody of us will beg you to stop? or sony CEO will appear and give you android 100?
Just stop complaining kid, if you have enought money for an other phone just to have a better toy to play with, feel free and buy it, we don't care. And in 6 months you will complain again for a new update that roll out, and with a new Brand that won't provide it to you.
I bought xperia Z because I was fine on how it was, it had everything i needed and I liked it. Why you bought it if you have to cry? Or yo mean it was good until something new came out? that is so illogical. stop looking to the neighbour's grass and just be happy whit what you have.
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... how was that a complaint? I am simply stating I am selling it if they announce the exclusion in their update roadmap. How you come up with all these impressions of me being a whiner is beyond me. I do have money to buy any phone really but I don't mind keeping the Z a little longer.
logically, I think Z1 is possible to port the Android L on it, as Nexus 5 also get the Snapdragon 800, so the driver should basically the same
then, we can try to port it to Android L?
Sorry, if you think I am a noob to ask such question
it is just a random question
tonylcc said:
logically, I think Z1 is possible to port the Android L on it, as Nexus 5 also get the Snapdragon 800, so the driver should basically the same
then, we can try to port it to Android L?
Sorry, if you think I am a noob to ask such question
it is just a random question
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It could be ported but not on locked bootloader.
For unlocked bootloader you just need a good developer and that shouldn't be a problem.
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It could be ported but not on locked bootloader.
For unlocked bootloader you just need a good developer and that shouldn't be a problem.
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I guess we have to wait a good developer using Z1 and wanna try Android L on his phone and share it to us
If
tonylcc said:
I guess we have to wait a good developer using Z1 and wanna try Android L on his phone and share it to us
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Well....using that, released version won't be possible.
There must be some serious modifications and changes to boot that.
New kernel and drivers and many things...
It'll never be Android 5, it'll be modified 4.4.4 or whatever will be the latest build...
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Well....using that, released version won't be possible.
There must be some serious modifications and changes to boot that.
New kernel and drivers and many things...
It'll never be Android 5, it'll be modified 4.4.4 or whatever will be the latest build...
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do you think Z1 update end @4.4.4?
As Sony show us the 4.4.4 update just after Nexus
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do you think Z1 update end @4.4.4?
As Sony show us the 4.4.4 update just after Nexus
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I, absolutely, do not.
Z1 will get 5.0 that's for sure...
Not only 5.0, I pretty sure we'll see few more versions (5.x.x) after that.
Z1 isn't XS and it has a lot "support time" in front of it...
I know I won't sell it
Sony started to release updates quicker than ever before and I'm very satisfied with them now...
Z2 should get 4.4.4 as well but Sony finally admit heating problem (camera related heating, sometimes even overheating with camera FC) so they are fixing that and Z2 will get 4.4.4 as well..
But...even Sony is faster now with updates and we saw Google finished (or almost finished) Android v5.0 I really doubt it'll be on our devices before autumn...
Sony must work on UI and change it, or change some things in/on it so thet will need a time...
My guess would be:
October - releasing Z3 powered by L
End of November - upgrading Z1/Z2 and maybe even Z (even I doubt that) to L
If rumors are correct and snapdragon 801 will be heart of Z3 they will need new OS to sell it
Same screen, same RAM, same chipset.... They need something new
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I, absolutely, do not.
Z1 will get 5.0 that's for sure...
Not only 5.0, I pretty sure we'll see few more versions (5.x.x) after that.
Z1 isn't XS and it has a lot "support time" in front of it...
I know I won't sell it
Sony started to release updates quicker than ever before and I'm very satisfied with them now...
Z2 should get 4.4.4 as well but Sony finally admit heating problem (camera related heating, sometimes even overheating with camera FC) so they are fixing that and Z2 will get 4.4.4 as well..
But...even Sony is faster now with updates and we saw Google finished (or almost finished) Android v5.0 I really doubt it'll be on our devices before autumn...
Sony must work on UI and change it, or change some things in/on it so thet will need a time...
My guess would be:
October - releasing Z3 powered by L
End of November - upgrading Z1/Z2 and maybe even Z (even I doubt that) to L
If rumors are correct and snapdragon 801 will be heart of Z3 they will need new OS to sell it
Same screen, same RAM, same chipset.... They need something new
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you wont sell it, and you also have Z2
I guess Z1 is the Lab Rat of Android 4.4.4 for Z2, if heating problem got totally solved in Z1, then Z2 will release 4.4.4 very soon
for the L, I guess will be 2 months after IFA Z3 release,
I checked online Z3 is using S801 AC,but screen have some changes, and I guess if we are lucky enough that Sony would give out their trump card which is curved camera sensor. I hope we will really see killer of Lumia 1020 or 808
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you wont sell it, and you also have Z2
I guess Z1 is the Lab Rat of Android 4.4.4 for Z2, if heating problem got totally solved in Z1, then Z2 will release 4.4.4 very soon
for the L, I guess will be 2 months after IFA Z3 release,
I checked online Z3 is using S801 AC,but screen have some changes, and I guess if we are lucky enough that Sony would give out their trump card which is curved camera sensor. I hope we will really see killer of Lumia 1020 or 808
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I realized that it's better to leave it.
I can't get "good money" for it so I decided to keep it.
My wife is using it and she loves it...
She was always saying it's ridiculous to wear brick in a pocket but when she took Z1 just for one afternoon I couldn't take it back from here anymore
It wasn't cheap to keep both devices but Z1 is just 9 month old device and I don't want to sell it for 300$...
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I believe all three phones will be getting the newest android update, the Z1 and compact are no slouches and a hardware limitation can't be called as the 800 is literally an underclocked 801 afaik and with android attempting to get lighter and lighter, save some feature which needs to have a hardware counterpart, i can see no reason why the z1 and so forth shouldn't get the update and even the one after that, not sure what that'll be called (MiniRoll maybe )
There's life in the old dog yet.
Could see a port getting done, but it'll more than likely never have everything functional, so you'll be trading off a lot of the stability and features you now have on stock / modded Z1 firmwares, the camera for example would be an issue, interesting to see it in action but I'd more than likely revert back to stock to gain full functionality again.
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Will our Z get the L or no?
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-l-will-my-phone-get-update
For now bad news :crying:
,,Having said that, look for an Android L update for the Xperia Z1, Xperia Z2 and the upcoming Xperia Z3. The compact versions, and carrier versions, too. Other phones are a total crapshoot. Sony will do everything they can, but as we've seen, often that's not enough. I'll repeat myself — nobody wants to update to Android L more than Sony does.
The same thing goes for their tablets. The latest models will find a way to get an Android L update, but anything made earlier than mid-2013 is too unpredictable to predict."
Vlad5555 said:
Will our Z get the L or no?
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-l-will-my-phone-get-update
For now bad news :crying:
,,Having said that, look for an Android L update for the Xperia Z1, Xperia Z2 and the upcoming Xperia Z3. The compact versions, and carrier versions, too. Other phones are a total crapshoot. Sony will do everything they can, but as we've seen, often that's not enough. I'll repeat myself — nobody wants to update to Android L more than Sony does.
The same thing goes for their tablets. The latest models will find a way to get an Android L update, but anything made earlier than mid-2013 is too unpredictable to predict."
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do not post questions in the general section!
Besides that, only Sony knows if we will get Android L
what features of L do you specifically need? or is this just a case of having the latest and greatest updates? looks at kitkat, that's not exactly brilliant now is it
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what features of L do you specifically need? or is this just a case of having the latest and greatest updates? looks at kitkat, that's not exactly brilliant now is it
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Not the same really. More like the people who didn't get Ice Cream Sandwich. Even though the apps still work on Gingerbread you were left behind like some legacy user, Android had moved on.
We depend on the Nexus4.
Meanwile, first wait to receive 4.4.4
Vlad5555 said:
Will our Z get the L or no?
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-l-will-my-phone-get-update
For now bad news :crying:
,,Having said that, look for an Android L update for the Xperia Z1, Xperia Z2 and the upcoming Xperia Z3. The compact versions, and carrier versions, too. Other phones are a total crapshoot. Sony will do everything they can, but as we've seen, often that's not enough. I'll repeat myself — nobody wants to update to Android L more than Sony does.
The same thing goes for their tablets. The latest models will find a way to get an Android L update, but anything made earlier than mid-2013 is too unpredictable to predict."
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Its still a developer preview at the moment.
Also by the time its launched we will be out of the update cycle.
Even if there is no official update, there are lot of capable developers who will port L to Z
665 edtworo
According to me will get the Android l but the timing will be very long considering that has not gotten 4.4.4
Hey guys,
when do you expect Android Pie to be released for the XZ1C?
I know for a fact that they will prioritize the XZ2C and that XZ3C will probably be released on Pie so what do you think?
I think that they won't release Pie for XZ1C at all.
All hope in LineageOS
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There's not even any rumours of us getting 8.1, so it seems unlikely we'll be on the P list
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There's not even any rumours of us getting 8.1, so it seems unlikely we'll be on the P list
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Seeing as the XZ1 range is less than a year old, I am pretty sure that we will get P. I don't see skipping 8.1 as an indicator, if Sony decides there isn't enough improvements over 8.0 that justify the effort, why bother?
Wouldn't hold my breath for a release before christmas though.
After beeing loyal to Sony since my Xperia X8 (Xperia T, Xperia Play, Z1c, Z3c, Z5c and now XZ1c) all I can do is to say: We wont get an offical release, no way.
I hope they give us the pie very soon, the xz1 it's the a flagship so they must don't forget about us. There's the xz2 and then xz1 so they should give the pie at same time like Google does
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After beeing loyal to Sony since my Xperia X8 (Xperia T, Xperia Play, Z1c, Z3c, Z5c and now XZ1c) all I can do is to say: We wont get an offical release, no way.
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My device history is very similar to yours (Xperia T, Z1C, Z3C, XZ1C), which is why I don't understand your reasoning. The Z1C for example was shipped with JB at launch, and received official KK and LP (both 5.0 and 5.1). The Z3C was released with KK and received updates to both LP and MM.
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My device history is very similar to yours (Xperia T, Z1C, Z3C, XZ1C), which is why I don't understand your reasoning. The Z1C for example was shipped with JB at launch, and received official KK and LP (both 5.0 and 5.1). The Z3C was released with KK and received updates to both LP and MM.
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XZ3 is in the pipeline, XZ2 is already released and XZ1 doesn't get too much attention in my opinion.
The only thing thats strange is that they keep releasing updates to the latest patch level. But I still wont believe that we'll get Pie until they really release it
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XZ3 is in the pipeline, XZ2 is already released and XZ1 doesn't get too much attention in my opinion.
The only thing thats strange is that they keep releasing updates to the latest patch level. But I still wont believe that we'll get Pie until they really release it
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I hope they give attention, it has top line specs and it was released with oreo
Saw this after Googling: https://www.androidauthority.com/so...et-software-upgrades-two-years-launch-834758/
I'm really hoping to get some mileage out of this phone but we'll see if Sony will support their premium customers.
LOL guys, of course we will get Android 9. Not getting it makes no sense. Sony provides always 2 major updates for Hi end devices.
All my past Xperia devices had at least 2 major OS updates. The exception being the Xperia SX, which only had 1. XZ1 series must at least have 1 major update.
Two major updates? So the XZ1C will get Android Q as well? Well that's good to hear
XZ1C has Project Treble support, so it's probably a lot easier for Sony to release a major update compared to pre-Treble phones, which from my experience generally enjoyed phenomenal upgrades compared to the competition. Well, the flagships at least, can't say the same for their mid-range models.
Anyway, I'm pretty optimistic that we'll get to P and beyond, but from what I've seen so far of 9.0... no thanks, not interested.
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Hey guys,
when do you expect Android Pie to be released for the XZ1C?
I know for a fact that they will prioritize the XZ2C and that XZ3C will probably be released on Pie so what do you think?
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Rooting my phone means I opted out of the obligatory updates.
My experience with updates of OS that are different from the one released with the phone is that they are clunky, power hungry amd sometimes broken.
Despite what Google promise with battery savings, it'll still end up thirstier than 8.
What are you talking about OP? We will deffo get Android Pie and probably Android 10 T (Toblerone or sthg)
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-Xperia-phones-Android-9-Pie-update_id107683
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Yoooo, speak of the devil
https://www.androidauthority.com/sony-xz1-xz2-android-pie-894320/
Was getting Pie envy after seeing all these preview videos. Promising releases for next month is great :good:
By the end of this year, XZ1 and XZ1 compact will get Android Pie.
Source
List of the Sony phones, that will get Android (Mud) Pie:
* Xperia XZ2
* Xperia XZ2 Compact
* Xperia XZ2 Premium
* Xperia XZ1
* Xperia XZ1 Compact
* Xperia XZ Premium
Lol obvio, we will all have android P. The question is, what about Android 10?...