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[Q] Possible to downgrade XT1072 to KitKat?

Hi,
The Bluetooth A2DP stuttering bug on Lollipop is unacceptable, and I have heard that KitKat users did not have the same problem.
Is there a compatible KitKat 4.4.4 factory image that I can use to downgrade my XT1072?
I believe the XT1072 (Moto G 2nd Generation with 4G LTE) has never been factory loaded with KitKat Android. Is there another Moto G model that has been, whose KitKat image is compatible with an XT1072?
Cheers,
Sunkai.

This is in the wrong forum and I see that you also have the same thread going in the correct forum Hopefully a mod will see this and lock it.

You are right. My understanding of the situation is better now, and I realise that there probably is not a KitKat or CM11 image that I can use with a Thea device.
I posted in this forum, as I thought there may be a different set of eyes on it than the Moto G 2015 forum, and that there may have been a Titan image that was known to be compatible.
Thank you for taking a look. I am happy for this thread to be locked or removed.

upgrading to official marshmallow 6.0

i have an unlocked verizon moto x 2nd generation. can i get official motorola 6.0 update? is there any way?
thanks
im from pakistan so i wont be using verizon.

Which model do you have?
AT&T - XT1097
T-Mobile - XT1095
Verizon - XT1096
Check here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_%282nd_generation%29

donslade said:
Which model do you have?
AT&T - XT1097
T-Mobile - XT1095
Verizon - XT1096
Check here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X_%282nd_generation%29
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xt1096

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akholicc said:
xt1096
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Motorola and Verizon have stated that they will not update the XT1096 to MM or 6.x so there is no "official" Marshmallow firmware from Motorola for this phone.
You can find an 99% stock MM ROM here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/development/rom-xt1096-verizon-flashable-stock-rom-t3327345. Please read the full thread and ask questions there about this ROM. Some people - including me - are using it as their daily driver with little to no issues. This ROM has all the Motorola apps (Voice, Display, etc.) working as expected from a stock ROM.
Another option CM13. Read this thread :http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/orig-development/rom-official-cm-13-0-nightly-releases-t3256580/post65781867#post65781867. CM13 works on the XT1096 and other CM13-based ROMs should work but you will need to verify by reading their threads. Please be sure to read the full thread and ask questions there about CM13 or in the other threads related to other ROMs.
This is assuming that you are on the Verizon network and want to keep CDMA functionality. If you are using this phone on a GSM network and do not care to keep the CDMA access then you might want to look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/guide-xt1097-to-xt1095-nextel-t2972693
All of the options above require that you have an unlocked bootloader. If your bootloader is locked please go here to learn about unlocking it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/motorola-unlocking-verizon-moto-x-2014-t3291104
Please read and learn as much as you can. Most - if not all - of your questions will be answered by reading through the threads listed.

XT1085
Hello everyone,
I'm currently using the moto X 2nd generation bought in china (XT1085) running android 5.0.2.
I would like to get rid of the retcn version of the system because I don't speak chinese for a retEU or retUS and install android 6 MM. Is it possible?
My phone is rooted and TWRP recovery installed
I tried to install this version : Version 6, because one guy wrote on the topic that it worked on TX1085 but it failed for me, and my phone stayed on the Motorola launching screen.
So now I'm back with the factory setup and would like to now how to install android 6.0?
Thanks

Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2972693

kboya said:
Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2972693
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Yep I saw it but i've some trouble to download the file from the thread so i'm looking for an other solution
Edit : Ok I found a better link in the comments and did it, seems to work for now

How to unlock Motorola Moto X 2nd gen. bootloader?
Hey Guys! I have a locked motorola moto x 2nd gen, verizon variant (xt1096). I want to unlock its bootloader for upgrading to marshmallow (6.0), tried to unlock through Motorola's website, but my phone's not eligible for it. So is there any other way to unlock bootloader.

Where to check firmware?

Okay, complete noob question here. I cannot seem to find the .44 listed anywhere.
Is 4.4.4 the newest firmware?
I noticed my bootloader lists 2014 as the date. I did run a upgrade to get last months security patch, from what it seems.

oOflyeyesOo said:
Okay, complete noob question here. I cannot seem to find the .44 listed anywhere.
Is 4.4.4 the newest firmware?
I noticed my bootloader lists 2014 as the date. I did run a upgrade to get last months security patch, from what it seems.
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Settings->about phone->build number. SU4TL-49 is the newest. If you're interested in unlocking your bootloader, you must be on SU4TL-44 or lower.

I am showing SU6-7.7

TheSt33v said:
Settings->about phone->build number. SU4TL-49 is the newest. If you're interested in unlocking your bootloader, you must be on SU4TL-44 or lower.
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oOflyeyesOo said:
I am showing SU6-7.7
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So, let's back up. First, what version of Android are you on Kitkat 4.4.4 or Lollipop 5.1? Any Verizon version firmware numbers mentioned in this thread only apply to Lollipop.
SU4TL-49 is the newest version of Lollipop 5.1 for the Droid Turbo XT1254.
SU4TL-44 is the previous version of Lollipop 5.1 which allows the Sunshine bootloader exploit.
IF you are on Kitkat, you have to upgrade to Lollipop, but do not take the SU4TL-49 OTA.
There is a SU4TL-44 file you can flash here in this forum.

mine come with SU4TL-49
but well i desactivated all bloatware , still a very fast phone, 75 000 in antutu, 5;30 to 6:30 hours of screen
im surprised with this phone

Okay... I guess this is a droid ultra, even though it says MAXX, and the frame says MAXX. Ignore this thread!

ChazzMatt said:
So, let's back up. First, what version of Android are you on Kitkat 4.4.4 or Lollipop 5.1? Any Verizon version firmware numbers mentioned in this thread only apply to Lollipop.
SU4TL-49 is the newest version of Lollipop 5.1 for the Droid Turbo XT1254.
SU4TL-44 is the previous version of Lollipop 5.1 which allows the Sunshine bootloader exploit.
IF you are on Kitkat, you have to upgrade to Lollipop, but do not take the SU4TL-49 OTA.
There is a SU4TL-44 file you can flash here in this forum.
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Kind of unrelated but, I have a Droid Turbo XT1254 that I accidentally upgraded to 5.1 SU4TL-49 and I'm super bummed out because I wanted to try out CyanogenMod.
Do you think Sunshine will ever release a patch that will work on that newer build? Or maybe will release a new version for when Android 6.0 rolls out on XT1254 devices?
Also, first post :3

loukouk said:
Kind of unrelated but, I have a Droid Turbo XT1254 that I accidentally upgraded to 5.1 SU4TL-49 and I'm super bummed out because I wanted to try out CyanogenMod.
Do you think Sunshine will ever release a patch that will work on that newer build? Or maybe will release a new version for when Android 6.0 rolls out on XT1254 devices?
Also, first post :3
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Can't be predicted. First exploit took a year to find. Sunshine team says they are not actively looking for another.
You can always sell your phone, buy an SUTL-44 Droid Turbo on Swappa or buy an XT1250 (Another Quark which is a Droid Turbo clone that runs on Verizon, with easily unlocked bootloader).

Thanks for the advice, from what I've seen the XT1250 is a bit more pricey.

loukouk said:
Thanks for the advice, from what I've seen the XT1250 is a bit more pricey.
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Not the XT1225, but the XT1250. It's on eBay for $189, with free shipping.
If you buy an SUTL-44 Droid Turbo, make sure it is actually 44. And then you have to pay for Sunshine with the Droid Turbo, so factor that in.

ChazzMatt said:
Not the XT1225, but the XT1250. It's on eBay for $189, with free shipping.
If you buy an SUTL-44 Droid Turbo, make sure it is actually 44. And then you have to pay for Sunshine with the Droid Turbo, so factor that in.
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Right. If I buy an XT1254 and it comes with Kitkat (not sure which build exactly...) is it possible to get the SUTL-44 OTA and not update all the way to SUTL-49 ??
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Oh actually I found this thread (that I think you made) http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/xt1254-vs-xt1250-t3395747
It answers my questions I think I'll be getting another XT1254. Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
I'll probably be around asking more noob questions in the Marshmallow thread or somewhere else, so it's nice to know there are some super knowledgeable and helpful members on here

Help How to downgrade Lollipop 5.1 to KitKat 4.4.4

Hello everyone!
I want to back KitKat .
Help me please
I have lollipop 5.1 now
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yehison said:
Hello everyone!
I want to back KitKat .
Help me please
I have lollipop 5.1 now
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Use the techniques in this post -- but of course you want Droid Turbo 4.4.4 firmware, which you can download from many, many locations.
How to Manually Official Firmware on any Motorola Device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...force-how-to-manually-flash-official-t3282077
or this. Same guy, @Jaocagomez:
[Tutorial] How to Flash Different Official Firmware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/tutorial-how-to-flash-official-firmware-t3074724
FIRST, you need an unlocked bootloader. Is your bootloader unlocked? If not, then you need to buy/use Sunshine.
These instructions work for all Moto phones with unlocked bootloaders. (He says it's not for the Droid Turbo 2, because their bootloader was never unlocked. In the 2nd thread he says it's not for the Droid Turbo, but he wrote that before the Droid Turbo was unlocked.)
@Jaocagomez previously owned a Quark then moved on to Kinzie. He helped me get my second XT1225. He wrote a lot of the early dev stuff for our phones, but that was back then the Droid Turbo was still locked down. Doesn't matter, these instructions work for all Quark, Kinzie with unlocked bootloaders.
Do NOT flash GPT.BIN. Leave that off. He even mentions that in the Q&A. You can downgrade to earlier OS version, but you cannot downgrade bootloaders. You try to flash GPT.bin and you will either brick your phone or be in never ending bootloop.

Help recquiring Root after flashing MM update

I flashed the TWRP version of MM from here to my Turbo, but lost Root. I've tried flashing SuperSU from TWRP's built-in prompt, as well as from here, but when I do that the phone sticks at the bootloader screen.
I'm currently up and running in MM, trying to reacquire Root using KingRoot from here, but after 15 or so attempts it can't seem to break past 60%.
Any suggestions? Why does flashing SuperSU make my phone freeze on boot?

I know on Computer Freeks MM rom we have to use SuperSU 2.62 which is SuperSU 2.62 you could try that??

SuperSu for Quark Marshmallow
Chyron8472 said:
I flashed the TWRP version of MM from here to my Turbo, but lost Root. I've tried flashing SuperSU from TWRP's built-in prompt, as well as from here, but when I do that the phone sticks at the bootloader screen.
I'm currently up and running in MM, trying to reacquire Root using KingRoot from here, but after 15 or so attempts it can't seem to break past 60%.
Any suggestions? Why does flashing SuperSU make my phone freeze on boot?
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weaver11b said:
I know on Computer Freeks MM rom we have to use SuperSU 2.62 which is SuperSU 2.62 you could try that??
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Yeah, I told them in that thread that's what should be used, because we had experienced the same issue with the sibling XT1225 back in July. (Initially, CF's 6.01 ROM was based on Brazilian Marshmallow, but the same issue affects the Verizon Motorola Marshmallow, which he's now incorporated.) As a result, CF then put that specific version of SuperSu in his downloads folder. It works.
I've also written it up tons of times in various threads over here -- but except for CF's ROM, it's not in many op posts. So, here it is again.
On Motorola Marshmallow for Quark, for SuperSu you have to flash the Beta SuperSu 2.62. You can update later to newer version.
INITIAL ROOT ON QUARK MOTOROLA MARSHMALLOW 6.0.1
This same version of Marshmallow was released back in July for sibling Quark Moto XT1225. We found out then newer versions of SuperSu don't work for initial root. You need this older version first. No need to re-invent the wheel. It's the same device, same software.
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Go ahead and download SuperSU from the attached file at bottom of this post. It's an older version of SuperSu but works well on the Quark Motorola Marshmallow ROM. This is the one we KNOW works! You can always update to newer version later.
BETA-SuperSU-v2.62-3-20151211162651
Attached to this bottom of this post or download from here:
https://download.chainfire.eu/751/SuperSU/
Flash this version initially. You can update to newer version later. (People had problems flashing the very newest SuperSu for initial root, but this version works good. Again, you can update to newer version later, after you gain root.)
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BONUS TIP - SuperSu Setting
After you reboot, go into SuperSu settings and UNcheck this box. Mount namespace separation.
Uncheck that. Disable that. Then, reboot.
If it's enabled it will conflict with Titanium Backup which you will use at some point, or should. And you will have no idea why Titanium Backup is saying you are out of space, when you are not -- but it's due to this setting in SuperSu!
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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Thank you. Sorry, I did previously do a cursory google search for the problem and didn't find such an answer saying not to use the newer version.
Apologies for being another who seemingly didn't pay attention, but the version you recommended worked.

ChazzMatt said:
Yeah, I told them in that thread that's what should be used, because we had experienced the same issue with the sibling XT1225 back in July.
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To be frank, for a thread to have the title "Computerfreek274_MM_1.0.4 Verizon Stock Based MCG24.251-5 6.0.1 Stock VoLTE Root" is the opposite of helpful. A fairly layman title and small descriptive blurb does wonders for people who have very little experience in this area beyond the cursory effort it can take to unlock and root.
That is, I'm not illiterate by any stretch, but I'm also not a programmer and would have no idea what the hell that thread is on about from the title or the OP. About the only indication it might be of interest are the words "Marshmallow" and "Verizon Stock OTA" among all the other (to me) extraneous information.
I would not have visited that thread had you not linked to it, because there is no preliminary indication to me that it would be what I'm looking for.

Chyron8472 said:
To be frank, for a thread to have the title "Computerfreek274_MM_1.0.4 Verizon Stock Based MCG24.251-5 6.0.1 Stock VoLTE Root" is the opposite of helpful. A fairly layman title and small descriptive blurb does wonders for people who have very little experience in this area beyond the cursory effort it can take to unlock and root.
That is, I'm not illiterate by any stretch, but I'm also not a programmer and would have no idea what the hell that thread is on about from the title or the OP. About the only indication it might be of interest are the words "Marshmallow" and "Verizon Stock OTA" among all the other (to me) extraneous information.
I would not have visited that thread had you not linked to it, because there is no preliminary indication to me that it would be what I'm looking for.
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I also wrote it up in various other Marshmallow threads like here and here and here, but I admit it's hard to find. It should be in the OP of some of those threads, but I'm not the creator. CF did take the advice and make it part of his ROM downloads.

Chyron8472 said:
To be frank, for a thread to have the title "Computerfreek274_MM_1.0.4 Verizon Stock Based MCG24.251-5 6.0.1 Stock VoLTE Root" is the opposite of helpful. A fairly layman title and small descriptive blurb does wonders for people who have very little experience in this area beyond the cursory effort it can take to unlock and root.
That is, I'm not illiterate by any stretch, but I'm also not a programmer and would have no idea what the hell that thread is on about from the title or the OP. About the only indication it might be of interest are the words "Marshmallow" and "Verizon Stock OTA" among all the other (to me) extraneous information.
I would not have visited that thread had you not linked to it, because there is no preliminary indication to me that it would be what I'm looking for.
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the title has all the helpful information for what it was designed. it is not a help people with superSU problems thread, its a rom release thread (that includes the proper superSU to use in the OP).
but i do understand what you are trying to say, maybe you could make an appropriately titled thread with all the relevant info in it.

I added root instructions to my stock flashable zip thread. Hopefully that will clear some things up.

quantum tao said:
the title has all the helpful information for what it was designed. it is not a help people with superSU problems thread, its a rom release thread (that includes the proper superSU to use in the OP).
but i do understand what you are trying to say, maybe you could make an appropriately titled thread with all the relevant info in it.
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I thought about doing that myself but here's the issue. While I wrote such a guide for the XT1225 and XT1250 over in the other forum, to gain permanent root for any Quark (XT1254/XT1225/XT1250) you first must unlock your bootloader. On the XT1225/XT1250, that's easy -- just via a free code given via Motorola on request. On the Droid Turbo, that request is refused due to Verizon's insistence on a locked-down bootloader. Therefore my guide over there is only for the XT1225 and XT1250.
1) @TheSt33v has written an excellent guide over here on how to unlock your bootloader for the Droid Turbo XT1254 via Sunshine -- which right now is limited only to Lollipop SUTL-44 and SUTL-49. He also covers rooting in that guide. (My guide is based on his, but mine is updated for Motorola Marshmallow 6.0.1 -- with instructions SuperSu Beta SU 2.62 MUST be used, as we encountered this problem back in July 2016 when Motorola released Marshmallow for the XT1225. Plus in that guide, I clarified some things just based on my personal reading/writing style. I also added boot logos and boot animation. )
With his guide here on unlocking the bootloader, no other is needed. It covers everything that needs to be covered from the XT1254 Droid Turbo perspective, if you want to unlock your bootloader and root. (Again, unlocking the bootloader on the XT1254 can only be done on two specific versions of Lollipop, via paid Sunshine app.)
2) This Marshmallow rooting problem for the XT1254 is ONLY for people who have first unlocked their bootloaders on Lollipop (see #1) and are now upgrading to either stock Marshmallow Verizon firmware via OTA or installing a Marshmallow ROM based on stock Motorola firmware via TWRP. (Any other Marshmallow custom ROMs or even Nougat custom ROMs, i.e. CM-based, like [ROM][All Quark][6.x.x]Resurrection Remix which I'm currently using or [ROM][All Quark][7.x]Resurrection Remix do not have that "rooting" issue.)
This rooting problem is only for a subset of overall Droid Turbo users, not for everyone who has updated to Marshmallow. (That subset being those who first unlocked their bootloaders and are now on stock Motorola Marshmallow or a ROM based on stock Motorola Marshmallow.)
Therefore, just a thread on "rooting" over here in the XT1254 forum would not be useful. People would be confused and think they could root without first unlocking their bootloaders! And especially on Marshmallow 6.0.1, with the XT1254 Droid Turbo if you didn't FIRST unlock your bootloader on Lollipop, you are out of luck! (With XT1225 and XT1250 that's not a concern.)
TheSt33v said:
I added root instructions to my stock (TWRP) flashable zip thread. Hopefully that will clear some things up.
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Thank you. That should help a lot of people.
[ROM] MCG24.251-5 100% Stock
TheSt33v said:
If you want root, flash this version of SuperSU first, then flash whatever newer version you want: https://download.chainfire.eu/751/SuperSU/
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In my writing style, I would have noted the version number (SuperSu beta 2.62) in that sentence just to clarity it is indeed an older, very specific version necessary for rooting? But that's just me. In one of the other threads where I wrote this up, someone else then correctly referenced it several pages later, and then some other guy asked him, "Why are you using that older version from 2015? Use this instead!" with link to current SuperSu -- which was EXACTLY THE PROBLEM! I had to reply to him and tell him "Because the newer versions do NOT work. THIS works!" He had not read my original post, only the reference to it and SuperSu beta 2.62 and had no idea of the Motorola Marshmallow problem.
My point is, sometimes in OP posts I find it helpful (at least for me) if certain very important information is literally in my face, bolded, maybe even colored red.
And also hopefully THIS THREAD will stay near the top of the Q&A section for a while, to help people.

For me is important unlocked bootloader because is easy to install another Roms or Stock Roms..
If you have unlocked bootloader you have totally control of your Turbo
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yehison said:
For me is important unlocked bootloader because is easy to install another Roms or Stock Roms..
If you have unlocked bootloader you have totally control of your Turbo
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YES! With unlocked bootloader and root, you own/control your phone -- not the carrier or the manufacturer.
In my hard won experience, you NEVER, NEVER take an OTA straight from your phone. You let others suffer any consequences, and you later install it manually after it is fixed/uploaded to XDA forum. There will be several copies available in many places and even tweaked, debloated ROMs based on any OTA.
But the first thing you do when you buy a new phone is unlock it and root. (Do NOT let it update to newest software! You can do that later AFTER you've rooted.) After that you control the phone, no other person or company controls your phone. A friend of mine didn't know this and bought a Moto X. She first turned it on and updated to latest software, THEN gave me the phone to root, install stuff. I looked at it and said, "There's nothing I can do." IF she had given it to me new, out of the box with the older software, I could have worked my magic. She updated to the newest firmware which closed all the exploits.
NEVER, NEVER take an OTA straight from your phone.

That's right.
I had a big problem lol because one day decided back Lollipop to KitKat after downgrade my Motorola dead ..
Was difficult for me .
First should unlocked bootloader.
And the end my problem was solved..
I like LG because is pretty easy to use.
Motorola is a little different..
You are a good person because always share personally ideas..
Excuse me for my bad English
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