Hello !
I've a new Xperia E1 Dual (2105).
I've successfully rooted it, thanks to the information I've found on this forum.
Now I've some questions :
1) on my previous phone (Xperia X8) I had a recovery screen accessible upon reboot onto which I could make backups of the whole software on the SDCARD. I would like to have the same on the E1 but I can't find nothing to make this work. What should I do ?
2) Is there any advantage to run a custom ROM on this device, given it already has 4.4 ? (the X8 needed a custom ROM to go beyond 1.6 or 2.1 version Sony delivered).
Many thanks in advance for your help !
Recovery requires unlocked bootloader
Yes, you can backup stuff using PhilZ or TWRP. You can get into recovery by tapping the walkman button during Sony logo
We are currently stuck on 4.4.2, but there are many Stock ROM mods that speeds up it up the phone, such as KillaMade, Illumination, etc.. It frees your time enchancing the ROM, or If you are completely new to Android, It avoids you to give a few headache
If you are unsure what to do, check my guide, It is mostly noob-friendly
Kizoky said:
Recovery requires unlocked bootloader
Yes, you can backup stuff using PhilZ or TWRP. You can get into recovery by tapping the walkman button during Sony logo
We are currently stuck on 4.4.2, but there are many Stock ROM mods that speeds up it up the phone, such as KillaMade, Illumination, etc.. It frees your time enchancing the ROM, or If you are completely new to Android, It avoids you to give a few headache
If you are unsure what to do, check my guide, It is mostly noob-friendly
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Thank you for your answer.
I'm a bit confused because I am not able to install TWRP because it says that my phone is unsupported.
I've cleaned bloatware using RUninstaller (backing up each APK before removing it) and moved the backuped APK to the SDCard and to my PC for a possible re-install. But I would have liked to make a backup of all the files with the device cold before tweaking ... I like having belt and suspender when going wild
georgesgiralt said:
Thank you for your answer.
I'm a bit confused because I am not able to install TWRP because it says that my phone is unsupported.
I've cleaned bloatware using RUninstaller (backing up each APK before removing it) and moved the backuped APK to the SDCard and to my PC for a possible re-install. But I would have liked to make a backup of all the files with the device cold before tweaking ... I like having belt and suspender when going wild
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Just saying using any TWRP app will always say E1 is incompatible, because it is not supported (officially) daily
However, you can install TWRP here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe.../recovery-main-thread-twrp-xperia-e1-t3323159
As I said It requires unlocked bootloader, otherwise you can't get into recovery
Kizoky said:
Just saying using any TWRP app will always say E1 is incompatible, because it is not supported (officially) daily
However, you can install TWRP here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe.../recovery-main-thread-twrp-xperia-e1-t3323159
As I said It requires unlocked bootloader, otherwise you can't get into recovery
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Thank you for your answer !
I've read about unlocking the bootloader and saw that it will reset the phone/apps/settings to factory default.
I should have done it long before ....
But I wonder if there is a way to backup everything BEFORE unlocking and, restore after unlocking to get my settings back.
What do you think ?
georgesgiralt said:
Thank you for your answer !
I've read about unlocking the bootloader and saw that it will reset the phone/apps/settings to factory default.
I should have done it long before ....
But I wonder if there is a way to backup everything BEFORE unlocking and, restore after unlocking to get my settings back.
What do you think ?
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Unfortunately I don't have a locked BL, so I can't really tell you how to make the recovery work, though there are many threads about how to boot into PhilZ under locked BL @xezrunner
If you do however manage to flash PhilZ, you can backup your entire system along with apps, data, and etc..
I suggest backing up TA, If you ever need to relock the BL back again to make use of the warranty
Here's the appropiate thread on how to install recovery on a locked bootloader.
xezrunner said:
Here's the appropiate thread on how to install recovery on a locked bootloader.
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Thank you very much but I've already used that and installed a recovery. You are late by a couple of hours.
I was able to do a backup of my present configuration and even make a "custom ROM" with the actual phone. So I'm very pleased !
I looked into the service menu and saw that my boot loader is not locked and that I've no DRM installed (maybe that's because my phone is a plain Sony one ? without any paid application ? )
Now, I've just to use the thread about changing the behavior of the Walkman button in order to disable it...
Thank to all who responded and provided help ! I'm an IT guy but far from an Android guy ! And I would not have done this without you !
Edit :
An additional question :
Now, I still have a locked bootloader (because I did not unlock it) and a recovery installed (PhilZ). Do you think I could install TRWP rescue still without unlocking the BL ? (this way I may keep the warranty of the phone ?)
TWRP is in a different image file (recovery.img), which locked BLs will never be able to boot in it
PhilZ is stored in the kernel (boot.img), so you can easily flash another ftf file to erase the kernel If you need to deliver the phone to your provider
(some providers take this seriously as this is a great excuse for them to ask for more money, or even worse, refuse to repair it, however Sony is still pretty calm about things like this)
As long as your BL is locked, and your TA is intact, your warranty is safe
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I looked into the service menu and saw that my boot loader is not locked and that I've no DRM installed (maybe that's because my phone is a plain Sony one ? without any paid application ? )
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The Xperia E1 has no DRMs whatsoever. What DRMs could you even have? The camera lacks any enchancements Sony has for the other devices...
xezrunner said:
The Xperia E1 has no DRMs whatsoever. What DRMs could you even have? The camera lacks any enchancements Sony has for the other devices...
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Ah ! OK !
This clarifies a lot of things. I was wondering what's this DRM thing was about.
Last question, do you know if one can backup the official ROM downloaded through Sony PC Companion during "Repair phone" operation ?
georgesgiralt said:
Ah ! OK !
This clarifies a lot of things. I was wondering what's this DRM thing was about.
Last question, do you know if one can backup the official ROM downloaded through Sony PC Companion during "Repair phone" operation ?
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There's a much better way to get a .ftf file that you can flash with Flashtool. Use XperiFirm.
xezrunner said:
There's a much better way to get a .ftf file that you can flash with Flashtool. Use XperiFirm.
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Thank you thank you thank you !
It's amazing the volume and quality of information I got asking simple questions.
I would have had to read thousand of pages of this forum to get that much ! You definitely saved me weeks of investment.
Do you know if I can install a Sony software made for a different CDA phone ? Because I have an old X8 which came with Orange branding and it has been so badly configured it is a pity. So I would like to try it with plain Sony Ericsson software and compare with the ROM I tested on it.
Have a bright nice day !
georgesgiralt said:
Thank you thank you thank you !
It's amazing the volume and quality of information I got asking simple questions.
I would have had to read thousand of pages of this forum to get that much ! You definitely saved me weeks of investment.
Do you know if I can install a Sony software made for a different CDA phone ? Because I have an old X8 which came with Orange branding and it has been so badly configured it is a pity. So I would like to try it with plain Sony Ericsson software and compare with the ROM I tested on it.
Have a bright nice day !
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Absolutely, you can flash any kind of firmware and it will work as long as it's for that specific model. You might experience some issues like no 3G if the firmware was made for a country that has no 3G support or has a different kind of cellular reception. But that's rare. The amount of bloat also varies beetween firmwares, of course. Kizoky has made a thread on all the firmwares available in XperiFirm with the fewest amount of bloat, I'm using the Turkey one and it's working really nice.
Glad to be of help!
Hello !
Here I am again !
I've a question I can't solve myself.
I've searched and didn't find an answer.
When I'm at work, I would like to send some calls directly to the answering machine without the phone even ringing. Mostly the personal calls because I can't get any privacy when at work.
Before the Android Era, I had a phone with a white list and a black list. And you could manage the actions for the white or the black lists. This served me well.
On my Android 4.4 I did not find something similar.
I would be delighted to get some help from you guys !
Thanks in advance for your answer.
georgesgiralt said:
Hello !
Here I am again !
I've a question I can't solve myself.
I've searched and didn't find an answer.
When I'm at work, I would like to send some calls directly to the answering machine without the phone even ringing. Mostly the personal calls because I can't get any privacy when at work.
Before the Android Era, I had a phone with a white list and a black list. And you could manage the actions for the white or the black lists. This served me well.
On my Android 4.4 I did not find something similar.
I would be delighted to get some help from you guys !
Thanks in advance for your answer.
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Ugh, now that's some tough question.
Try asking in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help
Kizoky,
Thank you for your answer. Actually, i had an idea to search for just blacklist android. It was more productive this way. I've to learn how to search ...
I've found two ways : the first one (not working) is to activate the black list from the settings in the contacts. The second one is to download an app to do just that. For now, I've to find one acting just on the phone call and not on the SMS. Funny Sony or Google did not think it was a need to fulfil ...
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Hi everybody
I'm new to Android Mobile and I got my HTC ONE just recently. I have to say that I'm in love with it, finally something I can really use.
I would like to root my phone and I went through several doc/videos about how to unlock the boot loader and how to root it.
I feel quite confident to do that on my own (I know, I know... I'm a lady and usually this kind of stuff are for boys only... but I'll give it a try).
I have only few questions if you can help an not expert user as myself:
1. after root my HTC One, will my mobile able to receive software updates pushed from the vendor?
2. by reading the forum, my understanding is that some of the system apps will be removed (not big deal actually and I understand I can recover them in some way). However, will I be able to recover all the other apps installed, phone settings and the usual data from my backup? I do a daily backup of my phone via the system Backup & Restore utility which stored the data in DropBox.
Thanks a lot boys and I sorry for the silly questions. I did my best to search on my own but still a bit confused
When you unlock the bootloader, you eliminate all OTA updates. That is my understandin.
If you backup'd up with method X (whatever method that maybe), I dont see why you cant continue to use method X to restore your settings as well.
When i forgot got my phone, I unlocked and rooted immediately. I installed titanium backup (thats my method of choice), and transfered the content from my old phone and use titanium to restore everything.
Linda2013 said:
Hi everybody
I'm new to Android Mobile and I got my HTC ONE just recently. I have to say that I'm in love with it, finally something I can really use.
I would like to root my phone and I went through several doc/videos about how to unlock the boot loader and how to root it.
I feel quite confident to do that on my own (I know, I know... I'm a lady and usually this kind of stuff are for boys only... but I'll give it a try).
I have only few questions if you can help an not expert user as myself:
1. after root my HTC One, will my mobile able to receive software updates pushed from the vendor?
2. by reading the forum, my understanding is that some of the system apps will be removed (not big deal actually and I understand I can recover them in some way). However, will I be able to recover all the other apps installed, phone settings and the usual data from my backup? I do a daily backup of my phone via the system Backup & Restore utility which stored the data in DropBox.
Thanks a lot boys and I sorry for the silly questions. I did my best to search on my own but still a bit confused
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1. Yes you will receive update notifications but depending on what recovery you have you might not be able to install the update until you go to stock recovery.
2. Yes you will be able to restore your data and it work rather well. Don't remember if it backed up the app data (settings for apps accounts save games etc....) and depending on your settings it may not backup pictures and videos so make a copy on a computer if you have pics you don't want to lose.
Linda2013 said:
Hi everybody
I'm new to Android Mobile and I got my HTC ONE just recently. I have to say that I'm in love with it, finally something I can really use.
I would like to root my phone and I went through several doc/videos about how to unlock the boot loader and how to root it.
I feel quite confident to do that on my own (I know, I know... I'm a lady and usually this kind of stuff are for boys only... but I'll give it a try).
I have only few questions if you can help an not expert user as myself:
1. after root my HTC One, will my mobile able to receive software updates pushed from the vendor?
2. by reading the forum, my understanding is that some of the system apps will be removed (not big deal actually and I understand I can recover them in some way). However, will I be able to recover all the other apps installed, phone settings and the usual data from my backup? I do a daily backup of my phone via the system Backup & Restore utility which stored the data in DropBox.
Thanks a lot boys and I sorry for the silly questions. I did my best to search on my own but still a bit confused
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Let me start off by congratulating you on an excellent choice of phone!
In response to your questions, I havesome answers for you:
1. After unlocking the bootloader/rooting your phone, you will still be able to receive OTA updates. However, to actually install them you will have to relock the bootloader. Take care when installing OTA updates, as they may contain "fixes" that will disable re-unlocking the bootlader or rooting.
2. You should be able to recover all of your apps, settings, and data. Once rooted, I highly recommend Titanium backup for apps and data, and MyBackupPro for contacts, call logs, messages, and such.
Thank you guys, you are wonderful! I love u!!!
Last question then I promise I will not bothering anymore
I can see from the tutorial that once I've unlocked the boot loader I will need to use a recovery utility like TWRP.
I'm not going to install any custom ROM for now and I would like to keep the original one. The only thing that I really need is root privileges to rid off some apps that were installed by the carrier (which I hate), as well the carrier boot up logo animation.
So, for instance... I'm running at the moment the 1.29.841.2 software version.
Will the recovery process keep the phone on the same version or it will install a flat one without the updates?
Linda
Linda2013 said:
Thank you guys, you are wonderful! I love u!!!
Last question then I promise I will not bothering anymore
I can see from the tutorial that once I've unlocked the boot loader I will need to use a recovery utility like TWRP.
I'm not going to install any custom ROM for now and I would like to keep the original one. The only thing that I really need is root privileges to rid off some apps that were installed by the carrier (which I hate), as well the carrier boot up logo animation.
So, for instance... I'm running at the moment the 1.29.841.2 software version.
Will the recovery process keep the phone on the same version or it will install a flat one without the updates?
Linda
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Not bothering at all, that's what the forums are here for.
The recovery process will leave the phone on the same version that has been installed. All apps will need to be re-updated, but the system version will stay the same.
skunkbandit said:
Not bothering at all, that's what the forums are here for.
The recovery process will leave the phone on the same version that has been installed. All apps will need to be re-updated, but the system version will stay the same.
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Great!!! all my doubts and questions are now solved. I'm ready now to try the tutorial on my own (I'm so happy ).
Thanks you sooooooo much!
Linda2013 said:
Great!!! all my doubts and questions are now solved. I'm ready now to try the tutorial on my own (I'm so happy ).
Thanks you sooooooo much!
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You're welcome!
just a quick heads up, be aware that unlocking your bootloader will wipe all of the data stored in your phone. Make sure to have a recent backup available.
Lots of useful info here, make sure to check it out: http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader
Linda2013 said:
Great!!! all my doubts and questions are now solved. I'm ready now to try the tutorial on my own (I'm so happy ).
Thanks you sooooooo much!
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Good luck, hope you enjoy your HTC One
Not sure which tutorial you're using, I have found this one to be very thorough, written by a respected Rom developer
[GUIDE] Complete Flashing Guide | Rooting | Going Back To Stock | 05.05.2013
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265618
Sent from my HTC One using xda app-developers app
All good! I've successfully unlocked and rooted my device.
I've installed TWRP and made a backup (just in case).
Then restored all my data/apps.
Very happy thx again guys!
Okay so, since I'm sort of new, I wanted to ask a few questions:
1. Is it possible to root xperia x8 with manufacturing date 11w48? At least at 95% chance. I'm a bit scared of the bricking part...
2. If it is possible, what kind of "ROM" (if I understood correctly) should I get?
3. If I get hard bricked/soft bricked what's the chance my phone will be still usable.
That's about it. Please don't rage at me for "OMG USE SEARCH BUTTON" type of thing.
I have tried doing it but no results found. Just threads and posts of people updating their.. ROMs I gues? Correct me if I typed anything wrong there.
But yeah, help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Jetboard said:
Okay so, since I'm sort of new, I wanted to ask a few questions:
1. Is it possible to root xperia x8 with manufacturing date 11w48? At least at 95% chance. I'm a bit scared of the bricking part...
2. If it is possible, what kind of "ROM" (if I understood correctly) should I get?
3. If I get hard bricked/soft bricked what's the chance my phone will be still usable.
That's about it. Please don't rage at me for "OMG USE SEARCH BUTTON" type of thing.
I have tried doing it but no results found. Just threads and posts of people updating their.. ROMs I gues? Correct me if I typed anything wrong there.
But yeah, help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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1. You can safely root your x8 regardless of when it is manufactured, you will not brick it
2. You have 11w48 so it is very risky to unlock your bootloader, i suggest you flash ROMS that is for stock
3. If you get soft bricked you can flash the stock firmware back using flashtool or SEUS, if it is a hard brick, you need to go to the nearest Service center or use a JTAG
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Thanks a whole bunch. I thought I cannot root because of my manufacturer date. But what is a flash ROM tho?
Jetboard said:
Thanks a whole bunch. I thought I cannot root because of my manufacturer date. But what is a flash ROM tho?
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you can root your phone. but you can't unlock bl.
when you root your phone, you cam install cwm recovery. simply dl a rom for stock kernel and go to recovery and install(flash) the rom. remember to check the instructions first.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
All what I found until today was that if I cannot unlock BL I cannot install CWM recovery.
Maybe it is related to model - mine is Sony Xperia J. Y2012.
There is no fastboot available.
Am I wrong, can I have CWM, nandroid backup etc on stock ROM as only such one I may flash ?
F308 said:
All what I found until today was that if I cannot unlock BL I cannot install CWM recovery.
Maybe it is related to model - mine is Sony Xperia J. Y2012.
There is no fastboot available.
Am I wrong, can I have CWM, nandroid backup etc on stock ROM as only such one I may flash ?
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this is for x8. not sure how it works on J. but yeah we don't havt fastboot either. but we can install cwm even with a locked bl. again that's for se x8.
edit: my advice is go to your phone's subforum. you'll get your answers there.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
Thank you. I understand that lot of things is device dependent but thought there are non-breakable rules, like gravity,
and what is possible to do under certain circumstances was one of them.
Need walk through XDA forum once more, maybe there is a hope.
F308 said:
Thank you. I understand that lot of things is device dependent but thought there are non-breakable rules, like gravity,
and what is possible to do under certain circumstances was one of them.
Need walk through XDA forum once more, maybe there is a hope.
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there probably are a few unbreakable rules, but not being familiar with your device i can't guarantee that it's safe or it would work.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
Despite lot of reading I still am missing knowledge.
Question is:
What is fastboot ?
I found more than one definition of it and compiled into my own.
1.
Of course fastboot.exe is Windows binary (part of flashtool pack) which does certain type of work.
This is not what we are interested in.
2.
I concluded that:
- fastboot is one of modes into what android device can wake up. Just like linux can boot in different ways or Windows into single mode.
- this feature is encoded into boot.img, it is not separate android application.
- boot.img will work only with related kernel.img. They are like love and marriage (which is like horse and carriage - Bundy's).
- Sony sometimes disables stock boot.img to boot into this mode then without replacing boot .img it is impossible.
More comments ?
Fastboot is protocol used to update the flash filesystem in Android devices from a host over USB. It allows flashing of unsigned partition images.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
Okay, I got one more last question. Is this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906195&nocache=1 okay to use for rooting? I'm still trying to find the LATEST safe ones =/ I wonder if this one is okay.
Um, I tried that one it didn't work. It said some stuff are missing, then it exited randomly etc.. Can someone give me a link or a short/long guide which I can use that's latest? I do have some X8 drivers in a .zip file but no idea how to install them. Thanks in advance.
Jetboard said:
Okay, I got one more last question. Is this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=906195&nocache=1 okay to use for rooting? I'm still trying to find the LATEST safe ones =/ I wonder if this one is good.
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I rooted mine with this
Means its safe
Sent from my X8
Having few issues with the SuperOneClick thing... It sometimes randomly exits, tells me that some stuff are missing etc. Any help? =/
Hi there
I will try and keep this as short as I can. I have an Xperia T which I recently recovered from a bootloop thanks to the helpful folks here at XDA. The issue arose because I tried to flash a custom ROM without unlocking the bootloader (I rooted using Doomlord's Toolkit). I have since done a lot more reading about the process, but it is nearly impossible to read every related link on the internet, so I'd really appreciate if someone could answer the following two questions before I attempt to flash a custom ROM again.
Fortunately, my bootloader is unlockable, although I am currently using the stock firmware without any changes.
The first thing I want to do is backup the TA Partition so I can reinstate Bravia etc once I am happy with the custom ROM. I thought I had backed this up using the Android Flash Tool 0.9.13.0, but I have since read that this doesn't backup the TA Partition in full. For this, I need to use Backup-TA 9.10. My question about this is, do I need to use both the Flash Tool and Backup-TA in order to fully backup and restore the TA Partition, or is Backup-TA sufficient on its own? Also, I don't see an option to restore the backup created in the Flash Tool. How is this done?
The second question I have is, can I unlock the bootloader without going through the formal Sony bootloader unlock process? I have no money to replace my phone and it is under warranty until October this year so I do not want to jeopardise this if it is not possible to unlock the phone without involving Sony. The Android Flash Tool 0.9.13.0 provides a Bootloader Unlock option, yet I have read that it is not possible to unlock the bootloader without informing Sony. If I am able to use the Flash Tool to unlock my bootloader, I have downloaded a file called "LT30_relock_bootloader.ftf" which claims to relock the bootloader should I ever need to do so for the purposes of my warranty, so I have no issue unlocking the bootloader provided I do not need to go through Sony. So, is the information I am currently armed with correct? And is using the Android Flash Tool the best method to unlock the bootloader (so I can install a custom ROM)?
I intend to backup the TA Partition, use Doomlord's Toolkit to root my device, then unlock the bootloader (if possible), then install CWM v8 to flash a custom ROM.
Any clear advice would be greatly appreciated, as ever.
pfhastie said:
Hi there
I will try and keep this as short as I can. I have an Xperia T which I recently recovered from a bootloop thanks to the helpful folks here at XDA. The issue arose because I tried to flash a custom ROM without unlocking the bootloader (I rooted using Doomlord's Toolkit). I have since done a lot more reading about the process, but it is nearly impossible to read every related link on the internet, so I'd really appreciate if someone could answer the following two questions before I attempt to flash a custom ROM again.
Fortunately, my bootloader is unlockable, although I am currently using the stock firmware without any changes.
The first thing I want to do is backup the TA Partition so I can reinstate Bravia etc once I am happy with the custom ROM. I thought I had backed this up using the Android Flash Tool 0.9.13.0, but I have since read that this doesn't backup the TA Partition in full. For this, I need to use Backup-TA 9.10. My question about this is, do I need to use both the Flash Tool and Backup-TA in order to fully backup and restore the TA Partition, or is Backup-TA sufficient on its own? Also, I don't see an option to restore the backup created in the Flash Tool. How is this done?
The second question I have is, can I unlock the bootloader without going through the formal Sony bootloader unlock process? I have no money to replace my phone and it is under warranty until October this year so I do not want to jeopardise this if it is not possible to unlock the phone without involving Sony. The Android Flash Tool 0.9.13.0 provides a Bootloader Unlock option, yet I have read that it is not possible to unlock the bootloader without informing Sony. If I am able to use the Flash Tool to unlock my bootloader, I have downloaded a file called "LT30_relock_bootloader.ftf" which claims to relock the bootloader should I ever need to do so for the purposes of my warranty, so I have no issue unlocking the bootloader provided I do not need to go through Sony. So, is the information I am currently armed with correct? And is using the Android Flash Tool the best method to unlock the bootloader (so I can install a custom ROM)?
I intend to backup the TA Partition, use Doomlord's Toolkit to root my device, then unlock the bootloader (if possible), then install CWM v8 to flash a custom ROM.
Any clear advice would be greatly appreciated, as ever.
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I haven't read your post completly, but you can't install ANY custom rom if your bootloader is unlockable. You can't install a custom kernel. So all your efforts are worthless....
St.Jimmy90 said:
I haven't read your post completly, but you can't install ANY custom rom if your bootloader is unlockable. You can't install a custom kernel. So all your efforts are worthless....
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I think that you have a lot of problems with English, he has phone with UNLOCKABLE bootloader, which means that it CAN BE unlocked...
This is not your first post where you're blowing away people not knowing what they are writing.
St.Jimmy90 said:
I haven't read your post completly, but you can't install ANY custom rom if your bootloader is unlockable. You can't install a custom kernel. So all your efforts are worthless....
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why would u answer the question without understanding what he wrote ? and the fact remains that u admitted that u didnt read it all the way so its pointless to reply jus like u may be saying its pointless for me to reply to your post and not answer the question
Yes, just to confirm my bootloader can be unlocked (unlike some Xperia T variations), but is currently locked. And I am enquiring as to whether it can be unlocked without contacting Sony and how best to go about it.
I would really appreciate some help as I am disinclined to do anything on my phone until I can solve the issues and questions outlined above.
pfhastie said:
Yes, just to confirm my bootloader can be unlocked (unlike some Xperia T variations), but is currently locked. And I am enquiring as to whether it can be unlocked without contacting Sony and how best to go about it.
I would really appreciate some help as I am disinclined to do anything on my phone until I can solve the issues and questions outlined above.
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no know not of any other ways but sony and flashtool atm
1: Use backup-TA ONLY. You won't be reinstating it and getting back Bravia while you are using a custom ROM though You restore this backup only if you want to go back to stock and restore Bravia/send phone in for service.
2: You need the code from the Sony service. However just because you got the code, doesn't mean you used the code so won't wreck your warranty on its own. You restore the TA backup before your send away under warranty and then they don't even know you ever unlocked in the first place
Don't flash any .ftf to relock your bootloader, thats what you make the TA backup for. Any other method to relock bootloader will show relocked instead of never unlocked status you need for warranty. TA is only thing that will restore Bravia also.
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nlooooo said:
I think that you have a lot of problems with English, he has phone with UNLOCKABLE bootloader, which means that it CAN BE unlocked...
This is not your first post where you're blowing away people not knowing what they are writing.
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Doh man, usually I understand everything but it seems I have to read more carefully..... And I shouldn't try to read something while talking to a friend. It won't happen again
Thanks for that, mdc1983uk, I understand about the TA partition now.
My only remaining question is, if I need the Sony code to unlock the bootloader, what happens when you use the Android Flash Tool 0.9.13.0 Bootloader Unlock option? Does it still require you to get a Sony code?
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Thanks for that, mdc1983uk, I understand about the TA partition now.
My only remaining question is, if I need the Sony code to unlock the bootloader, what happens when you use the Android Flash Tool 0.9.13.0 Bootloader Unlock option? Does it still require you to get a Sony code?
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As far as I know you need the code. Every phone gets an unique code created from your Imei
OK, thanks for the advice.
New problem: I upgraded to 4.3, now Doomlord's Rooting Toolkit doesn't work. Is there another way to root 4.3? I can't use Backup-TA unless device is rooted.
I swear, I can understand why it sometimes seems a little tetchy round here - every step of every path seems to lead straight into a brick wall!!!
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OK, thanks for the advice.
New problem: I upgraded to 4.3, now Doomlord's Rooting Toolkit doesn't work. Is there another way to root 4.3? I can't use Backup-TA unless device is rooted.
I swear, I can understand why it sometimes seems a little tetchy round here - every step of every path seems to lead straight into a brick wall!!!
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What if you flash Darklords pre rooted and deodexed rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647459
Thanks for that, I appreciate that would work, but I still haven't come close to being able to successfully flash a single ROM and I just don't have the time or mental strength required to work my way through every ball-breaking step. No matter how simple it seems, there will be a problem.
Unless there is a simpler solution, I shall just keep watching these forums hoping the mighty Doomlord releases a new Toolkit or another method comes to light. Surely within a few weeks there ought to be another solution given all the high IQ bods on the case.
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Thanks for that, I appreciate that would work, but I still haven't come close to being able to successfully flash a single ROM and I just don't have the time or mental strength required to work my way through every ball-breaking step. No matter how simple it seems, there will be a problem.
Unless there is a simpler solution, I shall just keep watching these forums hoping the mighty Doomlord releases a new Toolkit or another method comes to light. Surely within a few weeks there ought to be another solution given all the high IQ bods on the case.
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don't bank on the devs coming up with a new root method for 4.3, currently there isn't a need for one since we can all root on 4.1 then unoffically upgrade with a pre-rooted firmware, this is a relitevly simple procedure and can be done within an hour
It wouldn't be an hour for me, unfortunately. It would likely be three solid days of profound agony and disturbed sleep. Even tonight, it took me hours to connect to PC Companion to run a fresh copy of the firmware and the thread related to the 4.3 pre-rooted firmware suggests there are still a few issues. The great and mighty Doomlord's Toolkit takes seconds and works perfectly. I am sure I am not alone in my concerns.
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It wouldn't be an hour for me, unfortunately. It would likely be three solid days of profound agony and disturbed sleep. Even tonight, it took me hours to connect to PC Companion to run a fresh copy of the firmware and the thread related to the 4.3 pre-rooted firmware suggests there are still a few issues. The great and mighty Doomlord's Toolkit takes seconds and works perfectly. I am sure I am not alone in my concerns.
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+1 on what @matt4321 said in the previous post. Downgrade to 4.1.2, root, and then backup your TA partition with Backup-TA, flash CWM v8, and unlock bootloader if so desired.
If you want to be on 4.3, once you're unlocked, and after flashing any Official 4.3 FTF, you can then flash a kernel that can be found in EXR leaked 4.3 thread which comes with CWM already included, and finally proceed to flash SuperSU in recovery.
The minute one of the Official 4.3 FTF's came out I flashed it and tried the kernel I just mentioned; it's been working fine, probably even better than the official stock kernel (even though it is based on a stock kernel, only with CWM, that's why you need to be unlocked), given that I don't have a single one of the bugs that people are reporting exist on the Official 4.3 Roms. Battery is at 40% and I am already at almost 35 hours on a single charge.
If you already have the FTF files, this procedure doesn't take more than 40 minutes, if you're comfortable with and know what you're doing.
I hear you and will very likely give it a shot as soon as I can find the time (if only this was my only concern). At this stage, I'd be inclined to use Doomlord's Rooted&Deodexed ROM as it doesn't require unlocking the bootloader, but it is still a long way around to get root for the 4.3 version I am already using.
What I don't understand is, why would anyone comfortable with this whole process want to run 4.3 anyway when KitKat and supposedly better ROMs are widely available? Doesn't make sense. The truth is, the Sony interface is very well implemented already, and I'm beginning to think that better shortcuts and flashy sidebars are not worth the effort of trying to deal with flashing custom ROMs. I don't want a smartphone - or any computer - loaded with more utilities than apps that actually do stuff. That, I thought, was part of the rank old days.
I read about five web pages devoted to explaining what deodexing actually means and I still don't know, and probably never will.
I'll mull over the situation as I get drunk tonight!
Well, the thing is you need to backup your TA partition, which is the only reason why you'd have to go back to 4.1.2, which lengthens the process.
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I read about five web pages devoted to explaining what deodexing actually means and I still don't know, and probably never will.
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Regarding odexing/deodexing, read this.
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What I don't understand is, why would anyone comfortable with this whole process want to run 4.3 anyway when KitKat and supposedly better ROMs are widely available? Doesn't make sense. The truth is, the Sony interface is very well implemented already, and I'm beginning to think that better shortcuts and flashy sidebars are not worth the effort of trying to deal with flashing custom ROMs. I don't want a smartphone - or any computer - loaded with more utilities than apps that actually do stuff. That, I thought, was part of the rank old days.
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Obviously, in your case it's simple, since you have an XT and there are several custom ROMS that are currently being actively maintained for that device; you can do pretty much anything you want.
Others, like myself, have an XTX, and apparently none of the devs working on Roms actually have an XTX, so developing for it is a hit and miss. I tried CM11, and it was working flawlessly until I realized that half of the time the phone should be in deep sleep, it does not sleep due to kernel wakelocks. A battery that lasts 6 - 7 hours is no use for me. Therefore, my only option was to go back to JB 4.3.
The people who actually bought an XT have a wide variety of ROMs to choose from. On the other hand, those who have an XTX have about 3 or 4 ROMs (at the most), with the only one actually being maintained, is CM11.
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Well, the thing is you need to backup your TA partition, which is the only reason why you'd have to go back to 4.1.2, which lengthens the process.
Regarding odexing/deodexing, read this.
Obviously, in your case it's simple, since you have an XT and there are several custom ROMS that are currently being actively maintained for that device; you can do pretty much anything you want.
Others, like myself, have an XTX, and apparently none of the devs working on Roms actually have an XTX, so developing for it is a hit and miss. I tried CM11, and it was working flawlessly until I realized that half of the time the phone should be in deep sleep, it does not sleep due to kernel wakelocks. A battery that lasts 6 - 7 hours is no use for me. Therefore, my only option was to go back to JB 4.3.
The people who actually bought an XT have a wide variety of ROMs to choose from. On the other hand, those who have an XTX have about 3 or 4 ROMs (at the most), with the only one actually being maintained, is CM11.
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Oh, I get you. Still, bit of a faff, isn't it? These devices will be old before they can be utilised perfectly.
Custom ROMS still have a way to go unless stock based. Although the stock 4.3 isn't flawless, its better for me than the 4.3/4.4 custom's running on a 4.1 kernel. Every i've tried comes with the proviso that you will suffer blue screens of death at random until Sony releases the 4.3 kernel open source for them to merge. Some guys are hardcore though and putting up with reboots and crashes is a normal part of the game as it's not a bug - they are waiting for Sony. There's also another huge issue (for me) of the speakerphone never working correctly at the Sony volumes. They have to turn the volume of the whole ROM down to compensate and this makes it hard to hear in a noisy environment, a frustrating bug for me which has hung around since 4.1. You can max the volume up with a file which someone did, but it breaks the speakerphone then so you can only have one or the other.
In a lot of ways I am one of those guys though, I do like to experiment and am comfortable with the processes but I always find what I flash causes me some frustration before long so I go back to stock. If I had the knowledge to help fix problems it would be a different story and i'd stick with custom but as I can't I don't really see the point until 4.3 sources come out and its all a bit more stable.
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What I don't understand is, why would anyone comfortable with this whole process want to run 4.3 anyway when KitKat and supposedly better ROMs are widely available? Doesn't make sense. The truth is, the Sony interface is very well implemented already, and I'm beginning to think that better shortcuts and flashy sidebars are not worth the effort of trying to deal with flashing custom ROMs. I don't want a smartphone - or any computer - loaded with more utilities than apps that actually do stuff. That, I thought, was part of the rank old days.
I read about five web pages devoted to explaining what deodexing actually means and I still don't know, and probably never will.
I'll mull over the situation as I get drunk tonight!
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Q&A for [D58XX] CWM-Based Recovery 6.0.4.7 + ROOT for Xperia Z3 Compact [20140928]
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Kitkat root hack for Z3 Compact?
Could this be helpful in any way for the Z3 Compact, as an alternative to DooMLoRDs CWM-Based Recovery, for those who want to use stock system, but with root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613548&page=60#600
henriko_se said:
Could this be helpful in any way for the Z3 Compact, as an alternative to DooMLoRDs CWM-Based Recovery, for those who want to use stock system, but with root?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2613548&page=60#600
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Anyone tried on xperia z3 compact??
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Anyone tried on xperia z3 compact??
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Its for a totally different device so I doubt it..
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Z3 compact Screen Black
I tried to flash the Z3_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_v01_FW-93.img
After rebooting the screen is black. I sounds like the phone is booting up because it plays the boot-up tune.
After re-flashing the D5803_23.0.A.2.105_UK.ftf I managed to get the phone to work again. Still no root thoe.
Kernel is
3.4.0-perf-g18c6f85
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23.0.A.2.105
Before we get the same question for the 1000th time - as far as we know today:
- YES, YOU WILL LOSE THE DRM KEYS WHEN YOU ROOT AND UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER
- YES, THAT MEANS THAT, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE CAMERA WILL BE WORSE
- NO, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RECOVER THE DRM KEYS
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Before we get the same question for the 1000th time - as far as we know today:
- YES, YOU WILL LOSE THE DRM KEYS WHEN YOU ROOT AND UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER
- YES, THAT MEANS THAT, AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE CAMERA WILL BE WORSE
- NO, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RECOVER THE DRM KEYS
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You forgot.
You can at the moment not get root without onlocking the bootloader
But now thanks to You show the ROOT method (Unlock BL), and I respect your work!
I hope will be other methods to root without loosing the DRM keys and TA partitions. I check this thread every day... I dont want to use my phone without root forever. If the Sony write the TA erasing comment to their site before I buy, never buy Z3C.
In the Z1C, the owners can use MIUI without BL... I'm crying.
Is there any development for a custom rom going on? Or are we waiting for lollipop to settle first?
save the boot.img to the folder containing fastboot binary
and where i can find this folder on my xperia z3 compact coz i dont see it anywhere every folder that i got just got some kb and there is no folder with the boot img inside please help
May it be possible to port the camera data from a z3 to an z3c with unlocked bootloader to get back those lost parts (for example as a flashable-recovery-zip or built in a kernel which could emulate this drm-stuff)? They should have the same camera hardware and running both on kitkat. I'm kindly new to those things and far far away from development, sorry for this (maybe) stupid question
Same issue with DRM keys
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May it be possible to port the camera data from a z3 to an z3c with unlocked bootloader to get back those lost parts (for example as a flashable-recovery-zip or built in a kernel which could emulate this drm-stuff)? They should have the same camera hardware and running both on kitkat. I'm kindly new to those things and far far away from development, sorry for this (maybe) stupid question
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This would not work as the z3 would also lose its drm keys and ta partition which contains the processing code for low light camera functionality. Both phones lose their DRM keys once bootloader is unlocked.
Unlocked and flashed kernel on Z3C: no more internet access??
So I followed the insctructions on this post to the letter, and after rebooting through fastboot, I tried to open the Play Store and noticed that I don't have access to the internet anymore, both on WiFi or mobile data. When I open a page in Chrome it just says "Unable to connect to the proxy server".
I am pretty freaked out right now, any help would be very much appreciated...
EDIT: I'm sorry guys I figured it out: turned out the proxy settings in my WiFi settings were on Manual for some reason... Switched it to auto and all is well again
How do I flash the stock kernel again?
So I unlocked my device and rooted it but I want to return to stock now. Can anybody help on how to do this? My guess would be flashing the stock kernel and locking the bootloader again, but I don't know how to do either... I already unrooted though.
RedskinWashingtons said:
So I unlocked my device and rooted it but I want to return to stock now. Can anybody help on how to do this? My guess would be flashing the stock kernel and locking the bootloader again, but I don't know how to do either... I already unrooted though.
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I may be wrong but you are still on stock kernel and stock sony UI. Rooting doesnt chanhe that.
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I may be wrong but you are still on stock kernel and stock sony UI. Rooting doesnt chanhe that.
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Isn't the boot.img I flashed a custom kernel? I think I read somewhere that the kernel and recovery are in the same partition, so I thought that what I did by following this tutorial, was flashing a modified kernel including custom recovery.
Do you by any chance know how to revert to stock recovery then...? Basically I would like to be completely stock again (minus the TA partition of course).
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I tried to flash the Z3_DooMLoRD_AdvStkKernel_v01_FW-93.img
After rebooting the screen is black. I sounds like the phone is booting up because it plays the boot-up tune.
After re-flashing the D5803_23.0.A.2.105_UK.ftf I managed to get the phone to work again. Still no root thoe.
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+1
I got mine yesterday. Unlocked it today. When flashed the boot image my device is now without a screen. It turns on and I can hear the touch sound when I touch the nav bar place snd when connecting it to computer I can access it is content but the screen is always slightly-lighted black. When I enter the phone in recovery mode the screen is also black but the weired thing is that it shows in the computer as Z2.
Please helppppppp
MeanMan
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LibyaDroid said:
+1
I got mine yesterday. Unlocked it today. When flashed the boot image my device is now without a screen. It turns on and I can hear the touch sound when I touch the nav bar place snd when connecting it to computer I can access it is content but the screen is always slightly-lighted black. When I enter the phone in recovery mode the screen is also black but the weired thing is that it shows in the computer as Z2.
Please helppppppp
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Where did you find
D5803_23.0.A.2.105_UK.ftf?
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Solved.
Mr MeanMan me and you have made a mistake. We both flashed the boot image of the Z3.
Return to the main thread. Repeat the procedure with the correct image file that ends with 105
Me and you when reached the line (for root go to this post) we moved the post of Z3 and didn't know that we also downloaded the boot image of z3
so it's still not possible to root the Z3 compact without having to unlock the bootloader?
Or is there a different way to keep the DRM keys and root the divice?
Nope, not yet.
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download the kernel image
save the boot.img to the folder containing fastboot binary
Where is the folder containing fastboot binaryon Z3 Compact???
Where i need to paste the image file i mean the name of the folder pliz
i am deeply sorry if this is the wrong place or already been answered but i have spent almost 6 hours looking for the right solution.
so the story is i have a Z3 compact which is branded to Vodafone UK (not sure if it is relevant)
attached are images of my about page and the configuration page (where you dial *#*#7378423#*#*)
i also (on my search) have my code from the sony site where i selected my phone, sent an email, entered IMEI number and gave me a code to run using fastboot (this did not work for me)
based on theses settings what program/files/tools do i need to install custom rom, which i guess also will root it (im looking at either paranoid android or lineageOS)
paresh90 said:
i am deeply sorry if this is the wrong place or already been answered but i have spent almost 6 hours looking for the right solution.
so the story is i have a Z3 compact which is branded to Vodafone UK (not sure if it is relevant)
attached are images of my about page and the configuration page (where you dial *#*#7378423#*#*)
i also (on my search) have my code from the sony site where i selected my phone, sent an email, entered IMEI number and gave me a code to run using fastboot (this did not work for me)
based on theses settings what program/files/tools do i need to install custom rom, which i guess also will root it (im looking at either paranoid android or lineageOS)
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You can't unlock you bootloader mate, the screenshot you put up says so. Meaning no custom kernels, which also means no ROMs that aren't based on stock. You're stuck with MIUI and various other zip-ports. No Lineage or AOSPA etc.
You can root it no problem though. Just use google or whatever, there's a couple of ways to do it.
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You can't unlock you bootloader mate, the screenshot you put up says so. Meaning no custom kernels, which also means no ROMs that aren't based on stock. You're stuck with MIUI and various other zip-ports. No Lineage or AOSPA etc.
You can root it no problem though. Just use google or whatever, there's a couple of ways to do it.
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thank you for your response thought this would be a dead thread.
a few follow up questions if i may:
1. i asume i can find any post with MIUI in the title while should be compatible
2. i read something about down grade of firmware (is that a possible option for me)
3. in my google searching, would i need to state that my BL is locked
paresh90 said:
thank you for your response thought this would be a dead thread.
a few follow up questions if i may:
1. i asume i can find any post with MIUI in the title while should be compatible
2. i read something about down grade of firmware (is that a possible option for me)
3. in my google searching, would i need to state that my BL is locked
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Just find a MIUI ROM in the dev section if you want MIUI.
You can install any firmware from Sony using Flashtool. Learn to use it, it's gonna be your friend.
That means you download any FTF file for your phone (there's a thread somewhere with a collection of FTFs), and you can flash it. KitKat, Lollipop, Marshmallow, or Concept.
I don't know how to root really, I just do it the old fashioned way since my bootloader is unlocked (and I pray that never changes). I think you'll have to downgrade to KitKat, which, again, is very easy if you know how to use Flashtool.
Np mate, I know the feeling of dead threads. Just happened by luck that I saw yours and got intrigued by the title lol.
someone755 said:
Just find a MIUI ROM in the dev section if you want MIUI.
You can install any firmware from Sony using Flashtool. Learn to use it, it's gonna be your friend.
That means you download any FTF file for your phone (there's a thread somewhere with a collection of FTFs), and you can flash it. KitKat, Lollipop, Marshmallow, or Concept.
I don't know how to root really, I just do it the old fashioned way since my bootloader is unlocked (and I pray that never changes). I think you'll have to downgrade to KitKat, which, again, is very easy if you know how to use Flashtool.
Np mate, I know the feeling of dead threads. Just happened by luck that I saw yours and got intrigued by the title lol.
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It's difficult trying to find a post that works for your situation.
Top of your head do you know any good miui ROMs. Light ones
And if I downgrade to kitkat or something will I be able to unlock my BL (or is it compleatly different )
I don't have the phone with me will check tomorrow
paresh90 said:
It's difficult trying to find a post that works for your situation.
Top of your head do you know any good miui ROMs. Light ones
And if I downgrade to kitkat or something will I be able to unlock my BL (or is it compleatly different )
I don't have the phone with me will check tomorrow
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Haven't used MIUI since 2013 so you'll have to find one by yourself lol. I'm more of an AOSP guy -- if I was forced to use a locked bootloader I'd just install the concept FTF. That's about as light as you can get on this phone.
You can't unlock your bootloader, period. No software hack will help you. At least not from home. You'd need something like a riffbox and extensive knowledge of the phone's bootloader software to unlock it.
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Haven't used MIUI since 2013 so you'll have to find one by yourself lol. I'm more of an AOSP guy -- if I was forced to use a locked bootloader I'd just install the concept FTF. That's about as light as you can get on this phone.
You can't unlock your bootloader, period. No software hack will help you. At least not from home. You'd need something like a riffbox and extensive knowledge of the phone's bootloader software to unlock it.
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Concept it is
Ok thank you for making it super clear (for me and anyone else reading this. )
It's annoying that the sony website gave me a code to unlock it. I'm sure they could have known from the IMEI number whqt it was and stuff.
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Concept it is
Ok thank you for making it super clear (for me and anyone else reading this. )
It's annoying that the sony website gave me a code to unlock it. I'm sure they could have known from the IMEI number whqt it was and stuff.
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I think the carriers lock the bootloaders, not Sony. As far to my knowledge, Sony ships out the devices unlocked, and the carriers decide whether to lock them, but don't report back to Sony. Their site just assumes you don't have a s'hitty carrier.
Best of luck man, and welcome to the Z3C forums!