Goodbye story , S7 Edge - Nexus 4 General

Hey folks ,
So i got this phone in around november 2012 soon after it came out. It has been almost 4 goddamn years. During that time it has endured countless of abuses. I first dropped it in a toilet , which had just been used and not flushed. I fished it out and cleaned it thoroughly. It was still erratic , touchscreen did weird things and stuff. I opened it up and realized the board is completely wet and it had run like that for an entire day. I cleaned the board and let it sit through the night , the next day it worked without a hiccup. Then after a while i dropped it and broke the screen. I then replaced the screen with a new one i ordered off ebay. Then GPS didn't work for the longest time. Then i solved that problem which was caused by the digitizer interference. I documented it and shared it with you folks and many people fixed their gps problems with that. After a while i dropped it again and had to replace it again , but this time i knew what the problem was so i wrapped the digitizer with aluminium foil. It did not work. Turns out the new issue was grounding (which had already been pointed out in my thread by helpful folks over there) and my new assembly didn't come with grounding contacts so i had to make those. I made them out of laptop grounding sponges which are soft and conductive. It worked again. After a while the battery's voltage started to drop randomly causing all kinds of weird touchscreen behaviour and random reboots. I used it like that for like a year. I started developing kernels with the help of wonderful folks here who wrote really really useful guides. I didn't publish anything because this is a Nexus and people who are way better than me are developing for it in a capacity that i , at this current state , cannot match. Yet.
So today , i'm finally retiring my old mako. This is a very sentimental phone for me. It has seen me being wed , it has been there at the birth of my child , it's been there when my wife almost died and when i almost fell from a cliff. It's been the great partner in my many ways. So yea , i'll be hoarding the carcass , probably be showing that to my kids one day. I learned a lot from you folks and tried to give back in every little way possible. It's been a good , long ride. Thank you folks for everything.
Cheers!

May I ask why you chose the S7 Edge? IIRC it does not have an unlockable bootloader...

Wow, I was about to post something similar (a goodbye note of sorts) but if you don't mind I will just post it here instead of creating new thread.
Nexus 4 has been my daily driver since launch. I enjoyed the official run up to lollipop and now MarshMallow. (screen replaced 3 times, and usb port replaced 2. Every time it was my mistake)
My story is a bit different, I went with Honor 5x, a filler device, as I needed dual sim functionality until September. I am actually planning on getting the G5 then.
I will miss this phone and for now I am not sure I can let go of N4 completely because I still haven't used the honor 5x (it was shipped to my house today and I am at work). If I get a slight bad vibe from the Honor, I will be back to N4 in no time.
Sooner or later we had to part ways but I have to give it to LG for building this solid piece of device. In my books, the N4 will go down as one of the best Nexus device built to date (sorry 5x,6p,6 and 5).
I hope you enjoy your S7 Edge.

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May I ask why you chose the S7 Edge? IIRC it does not have an unlockable bootloader...
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Only the snapdragon version has an locked Bootloader.
Made the same switch after 3 years, but still using the Mako for some stuff. Especially since i haven´t unlocked my S7 Edge yet.

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May I ask why you chose the S7 Edge? IIRC it does not have an unlockable bootloader...
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One of the reasons i went with a Samsung device is , Samsung is the only manufacturer that actually does something about storage technology. Their flash chips are faster than anybody else , only rivaled by that of the iPhone which is also a samsung chip It's rarely mentioned in the reviews and largely ignored yet it is very important for a sleek UI experience. Also the fact that Exynos 8890 is a beast. The device performs without a damn hiccup. Impressive hardware. Btw , i got the international version. So , it's exynos for me. I'm already rooted
Touch Latency , Audio Latency and many more variables which are never mentioned in the reviews , those are very important. Samsung is one of the best in terms of those , again only rivaled by Apple. I'm actually thinking about writing an article about those features that nobody mentions. So that people pay more attention.

I'm using my HTC One M7 until it dies, but once in a while I'll charge up my Nexus 4 and use it for a day or two. It's still my favorite phone, I'm kind of wanting to simply save it and keep it in good condition while riding out my M7. It's a freaking fantastic phone. Perfect screen and in-hand size for my tastes, build quality can be a smidgen creaky once in a blue moon but otherwise really great. I'm always going to hold onto it even if I upgrade in the future as a backup, and like I mentioned it's my favorite phone, always has been and will be for quite some time yet. It's almost in flawless condition other than some small scratches on the back. Friend gave it to me for free after getting a OnePlus One, he bricked the hell out of it but I fixed it in about 2 hours and he said "Just keep it man, I have no use for it" xD

Cudos to you, you've really MacGyver'd that phone!

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[Q] Is a second hand nexus trustable?

Hi.
I have a question kinda regarding the build quality of nexus one.
In my country, there's a large demand for android phones, and it has been quite hard in recent days to find a new nexus one.
A shopkeeper suggested me to buy a second hand nexus, and the price is good too, but he doesn't accept to give me the choice to return it if there were any problems.
The phone is in very good aesthetical condition and has no scratches.
I wanna know is nexus one of the phones with frequent problems of sensitive parts like battery, touch screen, etc?
If the build quality is low, and many of the phones have these kind of problems, then I wouldn't trust a person who is selling his second hand phone.
Thanks.
My nexus one is second hand. I wouldn't have bought it new, that's crazy.
I tested the phone out for a minute, and everything seemed in place. At the price i paid for it and from what i've seen for replacement parts, it was worth it. Had it for about a month now w/ zero problems.
Thats like asking if anything second hand is trustable, make sure you do your homework and research the condition of what you are getting.
I've not seen any thread / post complaints about used Nexus One's!
Before buying, run it through a few stock applications and see for yourself. If he won't let you, don't buy it =p.
Other than that, I've had no issues with my Nexus One. A very good and sturdy phone.
Mine is second hand, plus I sent it back in to be repaired. So if anything was wrong, it's all better.
make sure all the buttons are working eg:soft keys and power button and check the bootloader aswell wheather it is locked or unlocked if it is locked thn its like new
I think apart the power button on some productions the N1 doesn't have hardware faults.
Just try to call and listen to music to see if the whole system works,also try the touch screen in any of its corners because in case there are water dammages part of the screen won't respond.Also if it felt you will feel and hear cracking noises because the N1 is pretty solid if no ''accidents''
My nexus one was second hand. Traded it with my iphone 3GS. Got a spare battery and docking bay together with it too. Up till now the phone still works fine.
As long as you have the chance to test it out you'll be good man. I've bought many Android phones second hand ( which includes around five nexus ones ) just make sure to test everything and you'll be fine
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Thank you for your heartwarming posts guys.
I'm getting convinced to buy it.
Make sure you test the GPS as well.
I bought the second hand phone, and it was good in my first evaluations, but my nephew is playing games with the phone and the phone has been restarted to the X sign 3-4 times when playing games like papastacker, Diner dash 2, and some basketball game.
Does this show that the phone is faulty? Is this problem correctable or I should return it?
Any fast recommendation is appreciated. I have only 24hrs to test it and half of the time is past...
Thanks.
P.S:
About phone:
Android Version: 2.2
Kernel Version: 2.6.32.9-27227-g3c98b0d
[email protected]#1
Build Number: FRF91
Mate, if it keeps restarting, return it. Not worth the trouble IMHO. Unless of course, its a really good price.
Id suggest benchmarking it as those tests will strain the system:
neocore
quadrant
Check for hanging/restarting. If it does, you need no further reasoning to return it.
Good Luck!
out of all the phones I had in my life, the nexus one has the top build quality.. I bought mine new though so I shouldn't really comment on this
N1 can restart alone due to a bad custom ROM or even not compatible kernel.
If it's rooted install CM6 R3 or Enom Rom they are the most stable roms right now.
I am getting restarts near big cellular antennas (mountain relay) or when a politician's bodyguard is carrying a mobile phone scanner/scrambler. I remember my uncle saying his nokia fried when entering the prime minister office

Nexus 7 "imperfections" and the story of LG G2x

So I'm about to get a Nexus 7 for Christmas, my other android device is the Tmobile LG G2x which I had since it was first released.
Anyway, I came to the Nexus 7 forum to read up on my upcoming device, lo and behold I see threads about tiny miniscule flaws like screen lift, screen flicker, crackling speakers when the volume is turned up etc. and many new owners returning their "flawed" devices in for a "perfect" one.
This gave me flashbacks of how it all started for the LG G2X. A lot of people found "imperfections" with the device and blew it totally out of proportion, and because one person posted a thread on what he percieved as a flaw, everyone else started to succumb to the power of suggestion and noticed these "awful flaws" too, and decided they were gonna return it in hopes of getting a "perfect" one.
We all know how this turned out. LG G2X started to get a bad reputation, even though it's still one of the best most powerful dual cores out. It was well ahead of it's time when it was released and had huge potential, but all the so called "flaws" brought prospective buyers to google the G2X only to find links to threads of "my G2x has this and that flaw", persuading people to think G2x was an inferior product when actually, those reported flaws were over exaggerated, just so the owners could return it for a "perfect" one.
My point is, how can you justify returning a brand new, mint condition, Nexus 7 just because you feel a .000001 mm screen lift to the left side? or because you turn up the volume on the speaker and hear some crackling because you're about to blow the speaker when you can just lower the volume?
I've worked retail before, and when customers return a product claiming it's defective, the store writes it up as one, get's full credit for the product and even though it's 100% functional and flawless they are required to trash the product. Imagine how much money you'll make ASUS or Google lose and then they'll cut their losses and withdraw support for a great product, just like what happened to the G2X.
Come on people, don't go looking for flaws where there are none....
Totally true!
And of course it's also the fact that no body opens a thread to say "my n7 is working perfectly"
In my case, my N7 it's perfect and have never noticed one of those "flaws". The only thing, truth be told, it's that the speakers are "weak" in comparison with other devices, but that's not a flaw, it's a characteristic. Saying it's a flaw is like saying that the camera is a flaw because it's not an 8mp HD video recorder cam.
People should enjoy the devices instead to go looking things to complaint about
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I agree, i just noticed i have a screen lift on the let side and so does my friend. I pushed it back in and everything's fine. Its so minor (literally less then 0,2mm) that I really couldn't be bothered to go trough warranty for it (I also got it as a gift from UK and it would take months to get a new one). I had a screen lift on my previous Galaxy Spica, that was some screen lift it was well over the housing, it was annoying, but it didn't affect the touchscreen.
Also the speaker is small, I haven't had a device that wouldn't crack at high volumes, its not made for that. Again, if you're not happy, spend twice the amount of money for iPad. People forget that this is very cheap device for its performance and of course it comes at the cost.
I really like my N7 its fast and light. If you're thinking of getting one do so, don't let perfectionists with light case of OCD change your mind.
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jacob808 said:
This gave me flashbacks of how it all started for the LG G2X. A lot of people found "imperfections" with the device and blew it totally out of proportion, and because one person posted a thread on what he percieved as a flaw, everyone else started to succumb to the power of suggestion and noticed these "awful flaws" too, and decided they were gonna return it in hopes of getting a "perfect" one.
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i know exactly where your coming from.. idk too much about the g2x but my phone is a lg spectrum... first and last lg ill ever buy.. build quality is horrible... the one im using now is my 5th replacement.. the first only got data signal.. wouldnt call or text... the rest have all had bleeding on the edges of the screen.. plus lg and vzw tortured us about the ics update.
ive had my nexus 7 for a couple weeks now and i love it.. my only dislikes are no sd. and the fact that 4.1 and 4.2 put your files in different places.. other than that.. my N7 is the best device ive ever owned
Yeah. Another device where (especially initially after launch) bad user reports or bad reviews blew a bad rep out of proportion is the Acer A700. I have the device, and it's a really fine, really good working device with a gorgeous screen and great connectivity. Show me another device that - for 399 Euros! - offers that much!
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My point is, how can you justify returning a brand new, mint condition, Nexus 7 just because you feel a .000001 mm screen lift to the left side? or because you turn up the volume on the speaker and hear some crackling because you're about to blow the speaker when you can just lower the volume?
I've worked retail before, and when customers return a product claiming it's defective, the store writes it up as one, get's full credit for the product and even though it's 100% functional and flawless they are required to trash the product. Imagine how much money you'll make ASUS or Google lose and then they'll cut their losses and withdraw support for a great product, just like what happened to the G2X.
Come on people, don't go looking for flaws where there are none....
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I' m not sure about screen lift (don't have one) or crackling speakers (don't really care about built-in speakers). But I'm sure that screen flicker is a rather annoying issue, and it's bad for your eyes, too. This is like looking at an old CRT monitor @60hz, or even worse.
Actually, I do everything I can to keep the device. I've already bought Nvidia Prism toggle and Lux auto-brightness, none of which helped the issue. I also had to root and re-install my brand new tablet just to try these apps.
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The software of the G2x was a train wreck. Random reboots galore made the device almost unusable without a custom rom.
Nothing like the G2x IMHO.
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The software of the G2x was a train wreck. Random reboots galore made the device almost unusable without a custom rom.
Nothing like the G2x IMHO.
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Yep, quite a few issues on the software end, not so much hardware which is rare as a lot of LG products don't last hardware wise.
I do understand where you are coming from though OP. PERFECT N7 here!
Sent from a galaxy far away!
+1 on a "Practically Perfect In Every Way" Nexus 7 here.
Only things that make it imperfect is actually the software and not being able to run Java with Android....
Hardware it is "Practically Perfect In Every Way" aside from missing a rear facing camera....oh wait, I have a Nikon DSLR for that job.....
Glad to be rid of my O2X. The Galaxy S2 craps on it, nice thin form factor and not a chunky brick like the 2x.
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I agree with the whole over exaggerating minor flaws, but comparing the nexus 7 to the g2x not so much.
I had a g2x and actually sold it and went back to using my single core galaxy s 4g because the g2x was far too unreliable to use as a phone.
I now have a 32gb nexus 7 (flawless) and a gsm galaxy nexus and love both of them. Sure my gnex has a bit of purple tint at minimum brightness, but I would of just thought that's how the screen is if not for all the complaints.
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Perfect example of horrible support and bad rumors killing a great phone. Hardware was the best of its time but crippled by premature software.
Seriously though, it was pretty bad.
I can't even remember anything bad about it except it had screen bleed... and its bad software.
LG blamed Nvidia but Asus didn't have a problem keeping my Tegra 2 Transformer updated like twice a week. It had more software updates then Google's own Xoom.
Damn LG. I'm still iffy about LG devices that require updates.
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jacob808 said:
So I'm about to get a Nexus 7 for Christmas, my other android device is the Tmobile LG G2x which I had since it was first released.
Anyway, I came to the Nexus 7 forum to read up on my upcoming device, lo and behold I see threads about tiny miniscule flaws like screen lift, screen flicker, crackling speakers when the volume is turned up etc. and many new owners returning their "flawed" devices in for a "perfect" one.
This gave me flashbacks of how it all started for the LG G2X. A lot of people found "imperfections" with the device and blew it totally out of proportion, and because one person posted a thread on what he percieved as a flaw, everyone else started to succumb to the power of suggestion and noticed these "awful flaws" too, and decided they were gonna return it in hopes of getting a "perfect" one.
We all know how this turned out. LG G2X started to get a bad reputation, even though it's still one of the best most powerful dual cores out. It was well ahead of it's time when it was released and had huge potential, but all the so called "flaws" brought prospective buyers to google the G2X only to find links to threads of "my G2x has this and that flaw", persuading people to think G2x was an inferior product when actually, those reported flaws were over exaggerated, just so the owners could return it for a "perfect" one.
My point is, how can you justify returning a brand new, mint condition, Nexus 7 just because you feel a .000001 mm screen lift to the left side? or because you turn up the volume on the speaker and hear some crackling because you're about to blow the speaker when you can just lower the volume?
I've worked retail before, and when customers return a product claiming it's defective, the store writes it up as one, get's full credit for the product and even though it's 100% functional and flawless they are required to trash the product. Imagine how much money you'll make ASUS or Google lose and then they'll cut their losses and withdraw support for a great product, just like what happened to the G2X.
Come on people, don't go looking for flaws where there are none....
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I had a g2x and it was fine and even better with a custom ROM it could play any game and most games if not all were compatible but it was that phone that made me a flashaholic and we all know what happened all the developers got a galaxy nexus or galaxy s2 and we were left with settling for no longer updated GB Roms or the broken ics roms, I tried to learn how to build Roms but too hard for me, the nexus 7 on other hand I went through 2 before finding lucky number 3 without a major screen lift trust me the first was a moderate squeak when touching the lifted side then the second one was extremely bad and my third one was very light not even there really but overall I loved the device from the beginning to keep it instead of getting a refund
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Totally agree. Mine has backlight bleed but I really don't notice till the screen is totally black and still it minimal. I too have a g2x and loved it. But now because support is dropped for it it sucks a bit because everyone returned it and now things like Bluetooth and SOD because LG did a half assed update to shut ppl up. I figured out how to stop the SOD and don't really use Bluetooth often anyway (it does work in stock but I don't care to go back). Sorry form the bad typing its 4am here and I havnt slept yet lol
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While I can appreciate the OP's intention, I would have to respectfully disagree with his method of thinking.
The reality is many electronic devices have legitimate defects. To say that we should not discuss them or post threads about them is asinine IMO.
I feel this way for two reasons:
1. The user base on XDA is a fraction of the general public. And a minute fraction at that. To insinuate that a few overzealous posts could possibly hurt a giant conglomerate's business (all of these companies are huge in both the cellular and other markets, with the exception of a few smaller companies) is amusing. There is no way people discussing the flaws of the Nexus 7 is going to "hurt" Asus or Google. There is even less negative effect on companies like LG or Samsung because they are in so many markets.
2. Considering the above, the very small impact that these product criticisms have are needed to show mfg's that we are paying attention to the product quality, even if they aren't. In addition, we are going to raise awareness to others who may/may not purchase their product(s), and it may even end up in an Android news blog. This tells them that they can't just shove crap down our throats and expect us to praise them like some idiotic fan boy. This is needed to force them to adhere to stricter quality standards.
Just my two cents. Btw I love my Nexus 7. Carry on...
I think the issue, as the above post says, Is definitely a QC issue. Asus's motto is "Persistent perfection" which I have pointed out to the Asus techs in the service center here in Taiwan many times :victory: as I have brought in the various failed devices they have sold me over the years. I would like to take this argument to the next logical step. The screen lift at the outset means that the frame and screen are not joined correctly. The posts I've read say the bonding surface is only 2mm wide. This means that the device will likely have much worse separation issues as it ages. Yes, these gadgets weren't built to last millennia, only the life of their battery, which should be around two years. Two years wear and tear, a few drops later, will this device become unusable? Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you...Live by the sword, die by the sword, etc.
Agreed with this thread entirely. The Nexus 7 did endure some teething issues than cannot be denied (my original n7's screen had a constant grey wash over the screen i.e. blacks displayed as light grey :good But I had a great RMA process and my replacement has been perfect ever since.
The N7 did have screen lift but it was revised with revisions. In the early models it was prevalent because of the way it was manufactured.
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The N7 did have screen lift but it was revised with revisions. In the early models it was prevalent because of the way it was manufactured.
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No need for the italics
Just my 2 cents here but I can't agree with this thread.
If a company is producing inferior quality products then the market will punish them for that, and rightly so. People pay hard earned cash for these products and if they rattle or have screen lift they are well within their rights to complain and return (the reason we have warranties) the product.
(I have a Nexus 7 and it's perfect btw)
This is one of the reasons Apple is a revered brand name among so many people, their pursuit of quality.
However I don't think the Nexus falls into the above category, it just had some teething problems. Also, judging by how hard it was for me to find one in stock there's no worry about it falling foul with customers.

1 day with the G3..,

....and I'm going back to my n5. The g3 is a nice phone but it didn't blow me out of the water and wasn't the clear step up from the n5 that I thought it would be. The g3 isn't much faster for most things and not as fast for some, the camera was good but I've never had a complaint about the n5's camera, and the screen really wasn't better at all. In fact, side by side I preferred my n5's screen, especially when using auto brightness. At full bright there was a slight advantage to the g3 but in normal use it's just a bigger nexus. All that qhd media talk seems to be mostly just that, talk. I really wish instead of the qhd they would have spent time on making it waterproof and maybe metal, or at least a little better feeling than it is.
I'm sure many will say the g3 is way better, in fact there's a thread in the g3 section about switching from this to that. If you are thinking of upgrading I won't say don't do it, but make the change with realistic expectations.
I'm in the same boat. Had the G3 and went back to the nexus. Can't do bloatware. Can't handle slow updates. And don't want to root and ROM. I wasn't really impressed with the battery life. Didn't really like how slippery the phone was. Plus 600 dollars for the G3 is a big turn off. Not worth it IMO.
I will say this about the Tmo g3, it's easy to root at least, but there are exactly 2 roms for it right now. You can use xposed to add some tweaks but then you can't use art. A lot of lg's apps, like the health app, force you to use their home launcher.
I also got a G3, but I love the nexus more. The G3 is like a advance version of N5 with bloatware.
there are somethings really interesting:
1. I got a 40MHz 2.4G wifi which only the N5 can connect without problem, the G3 and Nexus 7 both have problem (5G is ok)
2. the G3 is really easy to overheat, when I charge the G3 a while, it say I can't get 100% brightness (which it lock down to 80%) due to overheat, but I am not using it at all.
Ok guys, let me start with... I love my N5. BUT... coming from a Note 2 I felt like I gave away lots of things that I really was pampered with. When I first got my N7, the first thing that crossed my mind was "If they made a device with the same design, I would love it" and then the N5 was born. I was one the ones that stayed pressing REFRESH for a long time, a very long time until my order went through. I got my device and was happy for about 11 minutes, then I started seeing the compromises I have made. But don't get me wrong, I still love it and enjoy it very much.
My first complain about it was the obvious and what I had already made peace with, like MicroSD and gigantic battery, then! I found out that USB-OTG is not supported OTB and I have to install additional apps to make it work, the gallery app is nothing compared to what I was used to, and the there was little things here and there that makes the relationship between the device and me more of a love and hate thing. As soon as I saw the G3, was like a breath of fresh air. Getting back the size 5.5", MicroSD, USB-OTG, battery and all the other pluses that comes with it. The G3 is my new toy and companion but N5 will always have a spot in my heart, I always hated myself for not getting the GNEX and as soon as the SG3 came out, I jumped on it and got it. this time around I'm glad I got the N5 and have the amazing experience but its time for me to move on, who knows! maybe if the next Nexus have all this features that I can't seem to live without, maybe in a few months, but for now... The time has come.
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Ok guys, let me start with... I love my N5. BUT... coming from a Note 2 I felt like I gave away lots of things that I really was pampered with. When I first got my N7, the first thing that crossed my mind was "If they made a device with the same design, I would love it" and then the N5 was born. I was one the ones that stayed pressing REFRESH for a long time, a very long time until my order went through. I got my device and was happy for about 11 minutes, then I started seeing the compromises I have made. But don't get me wrong, I still love it and enjoy it very much.
My first complain about it was the obvious and what I had already made peace with, like MicroSD and gigantic battery, then! I found out that USB-OTG is not supported OTB and I have to install additional apps to make it work, the gallery app is nothing compared to what I was used to, and the there was little things here and there that makes the relationship between the device and me more of a love and hate thing. As soon as I saw the G3, was like a breath of fresh air. Getting back the size 5.5", MicroSD, USB-OTG, battery and all the other pluses that comes with it. The G3 is my new toy and companion but N5 will always have a spot in my heart, I always hated myself for not getting the GNEX and as soon as the SG3 came out, I jumped on it and got it. this time around I'm glad I got the N5 and have the amazing experience but its time for me to move on, who knows! maybe if the next Nexus have all this features that I can't seem to live without, maybe in a few months, but for now... The time has come.
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This is what exactly when I try to explain the different of Nexus and other flagship smartphone.
If you want a sport car and you can afford the money, you can buy a Ferrari, you don't need to do anything and it already very fast, with nearly all things you need, with a great complete experience.
Or you can get a subaru/civic type-r (or anything cheap), spend your time to custom it to make it run fast and add options you need.
Tastes differ.
The only Tmo store near me has consistently been terrible, I don't know why, maybe it is the manager but the employees ae generally terrible and today when I took the g3 back was no different. The guy asked me why I didn't like the g3, I explained my reasons as above and he just kept pushing.
He tried to tell me how out dated and slow the nexus was and how the software was exactly the same etc etc, I didn't bother tryi to argue with him but it seemed like he'd never rooted a phone and he definitely had never used the n5. His last sentence might have been true, he told me I should have used it for a few weeks before returning it and I would never miss the n5.
Only problem with that is I only have a 14 day return period and I'd be away during the last few days. Anyhow, I'm back to my nexus. Maybe the n6 will be great and convince me to switch, until then none of the other top line phones have what they need to make them worth switching, for me at least.
Yeah I'm waiting on the n6 but love my n5 tho an uber kernel is da bomb
I was tempted by G3. I stuck with my N5 and just picked up a 1+. I was bedazzled by the boxing/packaging of the 1+ and its new factor. I made it a day on CM and switched to Mahdi ROM. I would love to try L on it. I do not have big hands....enter joke here, and miss how my N5 felt in my hand. I don't think the G3 would sit as nicely as my N5 does. I have a GN2 that I use as backup and 1+ is way better. I will probably use 1+ as my new backup and stick with my N5.
Here's a pretty good read: http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-two-months
I thought the G3 would have been much better (screen wise). Seems most are let down by it. Ended out getting the nexus 5 thinking I would be disappointed... Boy was I wrong... What a beautiful device.
Whilst I find all the n5 love reassuring I'd kill all my relatives for a G3!
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Whilst I find all the n5 love reassuring I'd kill all my relatives for a G3!
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Best thing I've read all day.
It will dawn on people, I hope, that phones have plateaued as far as doing stuff. We don't need quad hd,etc. They play games movies etc grt. The N5 with kk is the embodiment of this. The next change won't be until 64 bit~6gig ram ~ true pocket computers we will walk away from the desk and pick up to take with us. Until then change is just to sell new models we don't really need. The device that I mention is on the way, until then I'd only update for practical reasons, faults etc. When we have L on the n5 properly that will give it a shot in the arm.
I have both phones and they exist for very different markets. Did you guys ever stop to notice that the N5 didn't have a single ad? It just isn't for a normal consumer. The nexus 5 was designed for messing around with software and debugging for devs. Whereas the G3 is just for average people who want a bit of power and battery life to go along with it. If I was a general consumer I'd hate the N5 due to its poor battery life, speakers and camera and would never buy it. Whereas the G3 has a solid camera and battery life. Two things that mainstream consumers care about.
All Nexus lines since the Nexus S were sold as mainstream phones by the carriers here.
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I have both phones and they exist for very different markets. Did you guys ever stop to notice that the N5 didn't have a single ad? It just isn't for a normal consumer. The nexus 5 was designed for messing around with software and debugging for devs. Whereas the G3 is just for average people who want a bit of power and battery life to go along with it. If I was a general consumer I'd hate the N5 due to its poor battery life, speakers and camera and would never buy it. Whereas the G3 has a solid camera and battery life. Two things that mainstream consumers care about.
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I saw a TV advert for the Nexus 5 when it was being released. But the LG G3 adverts (still) have a lot of presence right now (more than the N5 did).
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now what I'm interested in, is the Xiaomi Mi-4
http://www.xiaomiworld.com/xiaomi-mi4.html
looks nicer than the G3.
like the G3 though. would take it for the screen, 3AH battery, 3GB RAM, but $, and don't need anything better than the nexus. Plus I have already invested in Qi charging mats all over so I expect I'll want one that supports that in the future. Edit: oh looks like it supports qi
Oh and the 2k display no thanks. I don't want that. Angry. From an engineering POV, I hate this phone because they went for that. wasn't need, Wastes power.
Nexus - - - > other
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thor1k said:
now what I'm interested in, is the Xiaomi Mi-4
http://www.xiaomiworld.com/xiaomi-mi4.html
looks nicer than the G3.
like the G3 though. would take it for the screen, 3AH battery, 3GB RAM, but $, and don't need anything better than the nexus. Plus I have already invested in Qi charging mats all over so I expect I'll want one that supports that in the future. Edit: oh looks like it supports qi
Oh and the 2k display no thanks. I don't want that. Angry. From an engineering POV, I hate this phone because they went for that. wasn't need, Wastes power.
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They also send data like imei number n contacts to their home servers WITHOUT consent...more than enuf for me to stay away from these chinese manufacturers..
First checked by some website n nw confirmed by fsecure ...

How Many Years Will This Phone Last?

Sorry if there are already enough questions like this but this device launches in Canada on the 31st of October. I'm torn between this and the HTC One M8. Both are great devices, but this is the one that I want more due to it's size, battery, and camera. The phone I have right now has lasted me 2 years. I plan on having my next device last me 3-4 years, that's why I'm trying to buy one with the greatest battery life.
For the people who have this phone, do you think the phone would be able to last that long? I've seen many complaints about the phone from things such as the back glass cracking to a popping sound when pressing down on the screen. Is there a chance of the glass cracking in the winter time? Should I ignore those complaints and still buy this device when it launches or just go for the M8, even though it's a bigger phone than I want, because of its durable design? So basically, can people please tell me how their experience has been so far?
Also, would it be a better idea to buy it locally or have it shipped from Clove.uk?
Would you be able to answer the next question: When do you think you'll die?
Probably not.
So no one will be able to answer your question really.
In my opinion phones nowadays are made to last only 2 years or something, because technology moves so fast. There are many exceptions tho, I still see many people with their Samsung Galaxy S2 etc, because the phone can still do what they want and they really don't care about having the newest of the newest and the fastest of the fastest. I don't know what phone you have right now, but if you only have it for 2 years you would probably be able to use it for some more years without to many problems (unless you have hardware problems).
In every single Xperia forum (Since the Xperia Z) you'll see complaints about the glass, don't let them scare you away, complainers tend to come here faster then people without any complaints. Just use common sense and use a screen protector/case, the phone isn't made out of .... wait nvm. There is no indestructible material, so I don't know why people act as if their phones are. Of course there are also genuine people who really did nothing wrong with their phone, but we don't live in a perfect world, of course there will be manufacture errors.
Domestic vs International purchase... well... You might be off cheaper at sites like Clove, but when something is wrong with your device you might have to wait longer for your device to be returned to you.
You choose what's more important for you.
My old iPhone 5 never took a scratch to the front glass...it was a tank.
This phone already has a crack all along the back glass and extraordinarily...a scratch on the front glass. Must be made of weaker/ worse quality glass than the iphone 5....which I kept in my pocket with keys, threw around on tables, kept in backpacks with god knows what...and the screen never, ever scratched.
Good build and still going strong...the Z3 C....hmmmm...
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My old iPhone 5 never took a scratch to the front glass...it was a tank.
This phone already has a crack all along the back glass and extraordinarily...a scratch on the front glass. Must be made of weaker/ worse quality glass than the iphone 5....which I kept in my pocket with keys, threw around on tables, kept in backpacks with god knows what...and the screen never, ever scratched.
Good build and still going strong...the Z3 C....hmmmm...
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Hmm, but that's your own experience, I have witnessed like the opposite. In the end the only true comparison can be made when you look at stats.
I have seen many people with cracked iPhone screens. I have the Xperia Z and many people had cracked screens while to this day I don't have a scratch on my XZ.
AKA most of the time, these things are purely based on opinions.
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This phone better last be two years at least or I'll be very mad
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I always treat my phones like they're made out of glass. Probably because of that shiny flat panel on the front.
If you are to assume that your phone will not suffer any physical damage for 2 years. Would you still want to use it after 1 year?
Multiple things can affect this. Let's say you've owned the phone for a year.
1.) You as a person may have changed during this year, and you may decide what you wanted last year from a phone.. No longer matches what you want this year.
2.) we are on the cusp of 64bit mobile computing. With lollipop coming this November.
What does this mean? App development will evolve and your 32bit android L Z3c may stagger running those apps
I think it's reasonable to assume that most people will be happy with their mobile purchase for a year. After that.. Especially with this jump to 64bit apps it's anyone's guess.
To illustrate, would you be happy with a 32bit iPhone today?
The key things that will limit longevity:
Battery - Performance of most LiPo batteries will start to decline after two years of daily charge cycles.
Android updates - Few OEMs are committed to supporting devices with updates beyond two years.
Port covers - If you use any of them routinely, they'll likely wear out in less than four years.
Glass front/back - Usage dependent
Obviously there are ways to mitigate each of these potential issues. A case, screen protector, and mag charger will help with the wear and tear stuff. For the battery, budget for a replacement in two years. For Android, it's too soon to tell what your options will be. However, even in the worst case scenario, living without updates for two years (assume Sony will continue to support updates for the first two) isn't as bad as it sounds. When Lollipop starts rolling out to Nexus devices next month, most apps will still support KitKat and Jellybean.
Now, whether it's a good strategy to buy a flagship phone and replace it in four years or buy a second-tier device (like a Moto G) for half the price and replace it in two is a more difficult question to answer.
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Hmm, but that's your own experience
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Hmm, but that's your own experience
If you want to use your phone longer than 2 years (or, like me, you want to pass it on to your kids after your contract supplies you with a new phone after 2 years) than a phone wih removable battery is something to consider. My Samsungs (though butt-ugly compared to Sony) get a new battery after 2 years ( less than 20 buck) and are good to go for another 2 years.
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If you want to use your phone longer than 2 years (or, like me, you want to pass it on to your kids after your contract supplies you with a new phone after 2 years) than a phone wih removable battery is something to consider. My Samsungs (though butt-ugly compared to Sony) get a new battery after 2 years ( less than 20 buck) and are good to go for another 2 years.
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In terms of battery life yes, but when you look at pc's for example, they are getting more ram (because programs use more ram), more cores (because programs demand more). The same thing is happening in the phone world right now, looking at the transition from 32bit to 64bit phones.
My Z3 is still going.
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My Z3 is still going.
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my z3 compact is going strong too, with lineageos 17.1 installed, although battery has definitely seen better days, can say the same for the port cover, the rubber around the cap has worn down and it won't close anymore so I pulled the cap off because I find it annoying, seeking replacement.

Question Nokia XR20 Owner Reviews, Tips, Accessories

Hey everyone!
I noticed this section was a bit dry so thought I'd kick it off as a happy new owner of a grey Nokia XR20 in Australia. Still on 4G but will be giving Optus 5G a shot soon.
My last phone was a Razer Phone 2 and I was hesitant about going from a past bleeding edge to low-mid range phone today, but the XR20 seems decent enough for a tough phone.
So far all my go to apps like Gmail, Evernote, Plex, Youtube, WhatsApp and others are working better than they did which is all I needed. The phone is definitely miles ahead of my last tough phone a Samsung Galaxy Xcover 2 which was pretty cool but felt further from the mainstream of capability than this does.
I have only two gripes and they're about the software:
I wish I could change the Google Assistant button, I've tried a few apps but they don't seem to pick it up when pressed to reassign it. I'm keen to hear if anyone has tips, even if they're developer ones!
The camera app seems.. OK? I tried a Google Camera port for the X20 but the colours were all wrong
Final though - I know this device is on Android One, but I am a tinkerer and Linux geek so am keen to hear thoughts on how we can get some of that action on this unit.
Cheers!
Gday? Also from Oz mate, & just bought an XR20 my first non Motorola or Google phone in the last 12 years & my first tough phone since my first ever Android which was the Moto Defy a very legendary tweaker phone from the early days, up there with the HTC HD2 for modding, running CyanogenMod9 the Defy was a little beast...
I'm glad this is an Android one handset ( I've tried a few) as the update schedule has not gone to **** [email protected] Moto & it's the only way to get more stock than Moto was,
Coming from an Edge 20 pro my only gripe is the downgrade in refresh rate, I don't care if its powerful or fast & since the Edge 20 broke way too easily after owning it only 3 weeks, I just wanted something durable...Moto aren't what they were during the X series heyday...
And there's nothing else out there that's anywhere near as decent so I made the jump..
It's actually a great phone, though it's a tank of a thing , I'll be happy with it for a year or so I'd say
Hi guys. I have just one question, is there any way to disable the uninstalled apps reinstalling after every restart? It is quite annoying...
When I bought this it was advertised as having Wifi 6 (AX). I have never managed to use on Wifi 6 network (Nighthawk)
I was searching for a "myself proof" phone. The last one had fallen in salted water and not appreciated it ...
This one is "myself-proof"
It has fallen from 1.50m several times and still works.
It has fallen into salt water and still works (just try to clean eat with fresh water as soon as possible, better with demineralized water).
By the way I love the fact that water will not stay on the screen, the screen behave quite like hydrophobic. Funny.
Compared to other "rough" phone it looks more casual and is quite powerful. Battery can stand easily for a full day with full use. Sound is quite powerful (I'm a bit hard hearing).
Camera is ok for me since I have a DSLR when I want to make photo. I use either google camera or Open Camera.
Unpleasant stuff:
The red button is linked to Google Assistant and if you don't use it, it's absolutely useless. No way to reassign it.
It seems - as for now- completely non-rootable. So you are locked with Android 13.

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