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I wondering if it will be possible to do a hack on the Droid 4 to upgrade the battery some how? Battery life right now isn't that bad, but could diffidently use a extended battery. I would think it would be possible, if anybody was interested in building a battery for the droid 4.
YahyaIsrael said:
I wondering if it will be possible to do a hack on the Droid 4 to upgrade the battery some how? Battery life right now isn't that bad, but could diffidently use a extended battery. I would think it would be possible, if anybody was interested in building a battery for the droid 4.
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Does the Droid 4 have an in-built battery like the Droid RAZR? If so, the only option would be something like a Mophie JuicePak, a case with a built-in battery to extend the regular cell.
A more likely scenario, if Development is able to get that far, is a custom Kernel with a more efficient set of commands and code to enable us to squeeze a little more life out of the battery. That's assuming Development gets off the ground
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Does the Droid 4 have an in-built battery like the Droid RAZR? If so, the only option would be something like a Mophie JuicePak, a case with a built-in battery to extend the regular cell.)
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Yes it is build in . Just thinking maybe a backpack sort of add on cover, to extend the battery, of course without having to connect over the USB port.
I don't see what's stopping an aftermarket manufacturer from producing a thicker battery and an aftermarket backplate to the phone. All you need to do is open the backplate, peel the sticker off, and use a T-5 torx screwdriver to remove the battery connector. The phone comes with the back-plate removal tool. It's not complicated.
see: ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-4-Teardown/7759/1
So, yes, it's technically possible. Unfortunitely, the RAZR MAXX battery will not fit in the D4 cavity, and the connector locations are different. So, you can't make your own home-grown Motorola Droid 4 MAXX. ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Droid-RAZR-Teardown/7048/1
(lost my old XDA account login, excuse my inability to post clickable links)
I remember reading about a gent who already removed his D4 battery to see what other options could be found. The dis-assembly went easy enough, but there were major issues when he put it back in. Don't know if those were user created problems or what, but proceed at your own risk, as always!
It appears that there is connections for a wireless charger back cover. Therefore these connectors could be used to connect a second battery. Hopefully an aftermarket company will take notice and invent a product that will work for this.
The battery in mine seems to last pretty long. Is this modification for the sake of modification? I turned off push mail, and suddenly I have ah all day battery life.
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back from the dead - anyone seen any news on this? i particularly like the idea of using the charging contacts for the wireless charging cover, but using a battery backpack instead.
my d4 is on its way to me now, after my d2 had its flight license revoked following a high speed collision with a wall. the wall didn't fare too well either, but at least the wall is still functional. gotta learn to control that temper!
anyway, i have an aftermarket extended battery for my d2, rated at 3500mAh. i can go 2 days between charges, with what i consider regular use - that's probably 30 mins of calls, 200+ texts, loads of emails, some words/scramble w/ friends, 30-60 mins streaming internet radio, and some surfing every day. granted my d2 is rooted and running liberty, which practically doubled battery life. maybe rooting my d4 and debloating it (skype and other crap i don't want) will have the same effect to where i don't need an extended battery.
VZW sells an inductive charging back cover for the D4 already. That and a portable inductive batt. pack in a phone case and I think you'd be in business.
One of my favorite personal quotes: If it was put together my someone or something, then it can definitely be taken apart. The extra contacts seen on the battery are definitely made for magnetic induction (wireless charging etc) and can even be used (like other phones I've seen) as a way for the phone to know when it is "docked" to an accessory... EX: the lapdock/webtop situation. There is a known patch to throw our phones into webtop mode, tricking it into believing thaat it is actually docked to a physical lapdock. This sensing is done usually by magnetism/inductive signals, and triggers a response from the phone. I really don't think moto would electronically brick our phones if the batt was taken out, but who knows... yet? Hope I've given some insight!
I am ok with the battery life. I got 24 hours out of it with the 208 leak just a couple of days ago. I was on wifi though for about 18 of those hours.
In the ICS leaks all you have to do is plug in a hdmi between the phone and a TV. A menu pops up with webtop as an option.
My Experience with the D4 and battery life
I Started a new thread on the topic, I hadn't found this one yet. I've removed the battery from 2 droid 4's, and had one running off a pair of 18650's for a week. Phone will work, just gotta charge them via another method
well i've had my d4 for a while now, and i'm mildly disappointed in the battery life. it's better than i thought it would be, but still not enough to go all day. in my interior office on the 36th floor, where there's little/no cell signal, the d4 chews up the battery a lot faster than my d2 ever did. i tried using smart actions, but they're flaky at best, and actually make the phone become unstable and very crash-happy, so i deleted all the smart actions i'd created and now the phone is much less crashy, though it's not really what i'd call stable. about to un-root and reset it to see if that helps (doubt it), then exchange it at VZW.
right now i'm not-so-patiently waiting for the official ICS OTA update. hopefully ics will bring some better optimizations, and then some good roms based off the official release will be cooked up. i've always wanted to try cyanogen, but at this point i think i'd be happy with plain vanilla AOSP, without blur and bloat as long as it meant my battery would last all day with normal use.
at this point in the smartphone game, it reminds me of the PC world circa 1993. vendors forcing bloat that's difficult/impossible to remove, which hinders performance of the phone. something has to give at some point. hopefully they will make it so you can have a phone, download android from google, get drivers from motorola/htc/etc, and just roll your own. i mean really - who actually uses all the crap they preload on these things now? and especially now that data is not unlimited anymore (i'm grandfathered in thankfully), apps you don't want and can't get rid of are using data without permission - potentially driving up your bill! if that's not illegal, it should be!
markass530 said:
I Started a new thread on the topic, I hadn't found this one yet. I've removed the battery from 2 droid 4's, and had one running off a pair of 18650's for a week. Phone will work, just gotta charge them via another method
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i'm not particularly opposed to carrying around some sort of Frankenphone, so this appeals to me. looks like mark doesn't post around here anymore so does anyone else know how you'd go about getting the 18650s powering a D4? if this works i'll probably cut a hole in the back panel to fit the batteries, might even be able to squeeze in a microSD-to-SD adapter for dat 128GB glory
I've seen nothing BUT information on replacing the battery for the ATRIX HD, but nothing regarding replacing/switching out JUST the torn flex cable. Perhaps it's not physically possible, or the battery will burn up , but I would love to know if anyone has gone this far and attempted. Because my phone is out of warranty, Motorola refuses to sell me a new battery, and I refuse to ship for "repair" when I can do it myself. I've ordered an OEM battery, knowing it will be potentially old and not "new", so I'd ideally like to just take the flex cable; replace mine & keep my good battery.
I will appreciate any feedback. Thanks in advance.
You can't replace the cable. You said you already ordered a battery. Just use that. It'll work fine.
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Follow up..
Thanks for responding to my question, Deeje. I was concerned about the new battery and was even more so after receiving it, not an OEM and not even the same size. After calming down (phone was down for 10+ days) and researching my new Sony battery, I found it was of the same power spec and ended up installing. All is good, finally. I recommend RepairsUniverse for the beautiful new screen; the battery shipper shall remain nameless for their lack of communication.
deeje00 said:
You can't replace the cable. You said you already ordered a battery. Just use that. It'll work fine.
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So about 6 months ago I swapped the midframe and back on my N6 for the Moto X Pro ones. While I had the phone apart I replaced the battery. My original battery was still functioning fine but I figured since the phone's already torn down, why not replace it? My plan is to keep this phone until the 2016 Nexus is available. So I wanted to be sure that the phone would be problem-free until then.
I got the new battery off eBay from one of the many Chinese electronics retailers for around $15. It was sold as a Motorola OEM battery. When it arrived it looked identical to the original one out of my phone. Installed it, charged it up and went about my business. About 2 weeks later the phone e starts ****ting down suddenly. At first it would do it somewhere between 20%-30% on the battery meter. Then it progressed to shutting down at 50%-60%. Finally it would last only 10 minutes after taking it off the charger (at 100%) before shutting down suddenly. When it would do this, there wasn't the "shutting down" animation you would normally get from running out of juice. It would just go black.
So I deduced it was a junk battery and ordered another one. This time, I ordered one from a place here in the U.S. It was more expensive but not by much (around $30 I think). It arrives, I install it, works great for a month, then starts shutting down suddenly just like the eBay battery. It's at the "only lasts for 10 minutes off the charger" stage right now. So that's battery #2 that's suffered the same fate.
I have battery #3 on the way and it should arrive on Monday. Ordered from another U.S. retailer. Spoke to them on the phone and was assured that it's a brand new, OEM Motorola EZ30 battery. So we'll see how this one works.
At first I was sure I had just received a bum battery. But after the 2nd one had the exact same problem in such a short amount of time.e I can't help but wonder if it's something else causing the failure. 90% of the time I charge the phone via USB and the wall charger that came with the phone. The other 10% of the time it's charged via USB and my old GS4 wall charger. Would using a different charger cause battery failures? I had used the GS4 charger with the original battery that came with the phone and had no problems. Also, for a couple months, I had used a Cheotech 3-coil wireless charger. But I didn't like how long it took to charge so I quit using it. I used it for about 2 months on the original battery and the 2 weeks of the first replacement battery's short life. I haven't used it on the 2nd replacement battery at all as I was trying to see if that may have been the cause of the 1st failure. Can using a different charger damage the battery in such a short period of time?
Is there anything else I can look for before putting in battery #3? Like I said I'm hoping to keep checking this thing alive and kicking until this fall when the new Nexus is released.
Thanks.
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buzzwyzr said:
So about 6 months ago I swapped the midframe and back on my N6 for the Moto X Pro ones. While I had the phone apart I replaced the battery. My original battery was still functioning fine but I figured since the phone's already torn down, why not replace it? My plan is to keep this phone until the 2016 Nexus is available. So I wanted to be sure that the phone would be problem-free until then.
I got the new battery off eBay from one of the many Chinese electronics retailers for around $15. It was sold as a Motorola OEM battery. When it arrived it looked identical to the original one out of my phone. Installed it, charged it up and went about my business. About 2 weeks later the phone e starts ****ting down suddenly. At first it would do it somewhere between 20%-30% on the battery meter. Then it progressed to shutting down at 50%-60%. Finally it would last only 10 minutes after taking it off the charger (at 100%) before shutting down suddenly. When it would do this, there wasn't the "shutting down" animation you would normally get from running out of juice. It would just go black.
So I deduced it was a junk battery and ordered another one. This time, I ordered one from a place here in the U.S. It was more expensive but not by much (around $30 I think). It arrives, I install it, works great for a month, then starts shutting down suddenly just like the eBay battery. It's at the "only lasts for 10 minutes off the charger" stage right now. So that's battery #2 that's suffered the same fate.
I have battery #3 on the way and it should arrive on Monday. Ordered from another U.S. retailer. Spoke to them on the phone and was assured that it's a brand new, OEM Motorola EZ30 battery. So we'll see how this one works.
At first I was sure I had just received a bum battery. But after the 2nd one had the exact same problem in such a short amount of time.e I can't help but wonder if it's something else causing the failure. 90% of the time I charge the phone via USB and the wall charger that came with the phone. The other 10% of the time it's charged via USB and my old GS4 wall charger. Would using a different charger cause battery failures? I had used the GS4 charger with the original battery that came with the phone and had no problems. Also, for a couple months, I had used a Cheotech 3-coil wireless charger. But I didn't like how long it took to charge so I quit using it. I used it for about 2 months on the original battery and the 2 weeks of the first replacement battery's short life. I haven't used it on the 2nd replacement battery at all as I was trying to see if that may have been the cause of the 1st failure. Can using a different charger damage the battery in such a short period of time?
Is there anything else I can look for before putting in battery #3? Like I said I'm hoping to keep checking this thing alive and kicking until this fall when the new Nexus is released.
Thanks.
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Your batteries (#1 and #2) were not damaged by your usage pattern. They were bad quality period. And now you are paranoid about that. Those two batteries being bad does not surprise me at all because the inherent longevity of a battery is closely related to how well controlled the manufacturing process is, and we know how well that process is controlled for Chinese cheap batteries.
Modern batteries and chargers are built in a way that make them relatively immune to user abuse. Your battery lives for a certain number of charges and discharges. For a good battery from a reputable manufacturer that is around 500 to 1500 times. There is also a second order effect that if you recharge the battery before it completely dies it lives marginally longer. That is about it. The stuff you mentioned didn't cause your batteries to die. The poor manufacturing condition in a sweat shop in China did.
I think you also shouldn't use turbo charger with these batteries.
akholicc said:
I think you also shouldn't use turbo charger with these batteries.
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The battery's microprocessor regulates the charge and is designed to prevent damage to the battery. Thus this statement is ridiculous. Especially since all turbo charge does is allow more energy to be transferred to the battery in a given unit of time than with a standard charge.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The battery's microprocessor regulates the charge and is designed to prevent damage to the battery. Thus this statement is ridiculous. Especially since all turbo charge does is allow more energy to be transferred to the battery in a given unit of time than with a standard charge.
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okay. Its my bad then. But i always notice that my phone heats up more when i use turbo charger. And heat is never good for these batteries.
The amount of heat generated on charging does not significantly impact battery life when compared to something like doing a deep discharge. I wouldn't worry too much about the heat. The battery can handle it.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The amount of heat generated on charging does not significantly impact battery life when compared to something like doing a deep discharge. I wouldn't worry too much about the heat. The battery can handle it.
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I see thanks for clearing things up. I saw those videos and images of nexus 6 with all those popped batteries and back covers. I have been afraid of its heating up since then. So i can use it without worrying about its battery and back cover?
I've had my Nexus 6 since the beginning of the year and have had no problems with it whatsoever. While there is no guarantee you won't encounter a problem, if your Nexus is relatively recent like mine you shouldn't have any issues.
I got a battery from a UK Shop, which resulted without logo. Looked like fake to me, although the shop has good feedback.
The battery for its second day of usage is keeping very good life. So far I have 3 hour sot and 44% battery.
So, does Lg sells battery without lg logo on the battery?
No they don't. They actually don't make batteries for the G2, so any batteries you see for sale with the LG logo are either from "decommissioned" original phones which date back to 2013 or from used phones. So, in the end, you may be better off...
can you share me the link as i want to replace a new battery too
Nope, I replaced my battery recently, they told me that it's not the original one, its a Chinese made but works well. So far, no issue.
This is just a post to help anybody that might have changed batteries and now have a door stop. I had a non OEM battery installed and it was fine for a while. But the past few months the phone, which is completely stock 7.1.1 has been a complete pile of ****. After multiple factory resets I finally decided to put my old battery back in and BOOM, it's like a brand new phone again.
Moral of the story: only use Motorola EZ30 batteries if you're replacing it.
shabazz18 said:
This is just a post to help anybody that might have changed batteries and now have a door stop. I had a non OEM battery installed and it was fine for a while. But the past few months the phone, which is completely stock 7.1.1 has been a complete pile of ****. After multiple factory resets I finally decided to put my old battery back in and BOOM, it's like a brand new phone again.
Moral of the story: only use Motorola EZ30 batteries if you're replacing it.
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I'm sorry, but that's simply not always the case. It's unfortunate that you had issues, but many here on the forums, including myself, have had great success with aftermarket (OEM equivalent) batteries. I wouldn't recommend buying the cheapest you can find of course but the battery I had installed in my phone a couple of weeks ago is working great and AccuBattery shows 97% battery health. The new battery may or may not last for almost three years like the original battery did but I have a feeling that because I purchased it from a reputable source it's going to last longer than a few months.
alryder said:
I'm sorry, but that's simply not always the case. It's unfortunate that you had issues, but many here on the forums, including myself, have had great success with aftermarket (OEM equivalent) batteries. I wouldn't recommend buying the cheapest you can find of course but the battery I had installed in my phone a couple of weeks ago is working great and AccuBattery shows 97% battery health. The new battery may or may not last for almost three years like the original battery did but I have a feeling that because I purchased it from a reputable source it's going to last longer than a few months.
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Key words: "couple weeks"
Good luck.
alryder said:
I'm sorry, but that's simply not always the case. It's unfortunate that you had issues, but many here on the forums, including myself, have had great success with aftermarket (OEM equivalent) batteries. I wouldn't recommend buying the cheapest you can find of course but the battery I had installed in my phone a couple of weeks ago is working great and AccuBattery shows 97% battery health. The new battery may or may not last for almost three years like the original battery did but I have a feeling that because I purchased it from a reputable source it's going to last longer than a few months.
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Where did you get your battery?
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merikgvr401 said:
Where did you get your battery?
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I bought it and had it installed at Batteries Plus for $59.99 plus tax. I have numbness/weakness in my left hand or I would attempted the install myself. So far the battery is performing really well and showing 98% battery health in AccuBattery.
alryder said:
I bought it and had it installed at Batteries Plus for $59.99 plus tax. I have numbness/weakness in my left hand or I would attempted the install myself. So far the battery is performing really well and showing 98% battery health in AccuBattery.
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Much appreciated.
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