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Seidio Innocase Surface Review (quick/dirty)

My previous phone was a Heroc and it was wrapped with an Otterbox Commuter case. I LOVED that case. It saved my phone on numerous occasions from physical trauma and liquid disasters.
Unfortunately, Otterbox doesn't have a case developed for the Evo Shift yet. Hopefully they will soon though: twitter[dot]com/OtterBox/status/24490743817052160
I'm not a fan of the fake carbon fiber of the case Sprint offers so I went with the Seidio Innocase Surface.
The case itself seems a little flimsy/thin for it's $29.99 price point. However, it does an adequate job of covering the phone. Also, there's about a 3mm lip around the screen so I don't have to worry about placing it face down. This matters to me because I'm not too fond of screen protectors. I've tried them for the iPhone and Heroc and in my opinion, they degradate the touch surface too much to justify their use. For the year I've had the Heroc, there is not a single scratch on the screen. I have the same faith in the Evo Shift now that it has a case.
After a couple days of use, the only con I can think of is that it does make it a bit harder to use the top row of the physical keyboard. I'm getting used to it, but I was definitely frustrated with the typos I would make during the first day.
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Per questions below:
The case feels just like the original plastic of the Shift's body, if anything it feels "softer". (That's the best adjective I can come up with to describe the difference).
Also, to completely secure the screen portion of the case, I had to slightly pry the screen up from the base to make the gap wide enough to fit the left side clips in between them. When sliding the screen, it is now noticeable stiffer due to this. I think this will be an issue with any body case for the Evo Shift, since there is no gap in the sliding mechanism normally.
I didn't notice this before, but the top right clip of the screen portion of the protector comes unclipped when closing the phone. From what I can tell, the sliding mechanism isn't as forgiving as the bottom so it can't wedge itself between the screen and the base causing it to become lose. Though more than 1 of the 4 clips would need to come undone before it would detach the screen portion of the case.
UPDATE:
I rarely use the FN/Shift so I didn't notice until it was mention below. The case does cover those lights above the keyboard.
Dimensions with case (L x W x T):
Metric: 122mm x 64mm x 20mm
Imperial: 4.8" x 2.48" x 0.79"
Dimensions without case:
Metric: 117mm x 59mm x 15mm
Imperial: 4.61" x 2.32" x 0.59"

Wow. I really like the look. Thanks for the pictures. I'm contemplating buying it...

Does the screen protector portion of the case feel like it is going to stay on? I had bought a case like this for my old moment and the screen part wore down in like 2-3 months and it wouldn't stay on taking it in and out of my pocket.
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how is the texture? I like the feel of the shift's battery door, it is smooth enough to not rip your pocket out... but sticky enought to help keep it from sliding.

DWake014 said:
Does the screen protector portion of the case feel like it is going to stay on? I had bought a case like this for my old moment and the screen part wore down in like 2-3 months and it wouldn't stay on taking it in and out of my pocket.
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I haven't had an issues with that happening. Though I could see it being a possibility. To attach the left side of the screen portion securely, I had to slightly "pry" up the screen from the base so that the clips could attach. This does make the sliding mechanism noticeably stiffer.
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how is the texture? I like the feel of the shift's battery door, it is smooth enough to not rip your pocket out... but sticky enought to help keep it from sliding.
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It feels exactly like the original plastic, maybe a little "softer". I don't notice any difference when putting it or taking it of my pants pocket.

cool, thanks for the info. I'm thinking of picking one of these up. Now my main concern is if I'll be annoyed by the top row of keys not having much room. I already make most of my mistakes on the top row.

Thanks for the review, I was looking into getting one of these cases as well. I do have a question though. How thick is the phone with the case on?

BuddahWolf01 said:
cool, thanks for the info. I'm thinking of picking one of these up. Now my main concern is if I'll be annoyed by the top row of keys not having much room. I already make most of my mistakes on the top row.
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Yeah, it definitely covers the LEDs for caps lock and function lock.
Try slightly sliding your keyboard in a tad to cover the LEDs and see if the reduced space bothers you or messes up your typing.

Thanks for the tip. Ill have to give that a try. Uh, I'm doing that right now, and I think I like it better this way. Is that weird?
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I want to get a case for mine, but my biggest concern is making the phone thicker than it already is. I don't want it to not fit in my pocket.

adamr240 said:
I want to get a case for mine, but my biggest concern is making the phone thicker than it already is. I don't want it to not fit in my pocket.
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Surprisingly the cases don't seem to make the phone much thicker. I'm still able to place the phone in the leg pocket of ky carpenter pants really easily. My Hero and my wife's Moment were both super thick with a case, but not the Shift.
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ryocho said:
Thanks for the review, I was looking into getting one of these cases as well. I do have a question though. How thick is the phone with the case on?
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Dimensions with case (L x W x T):
Metric: 122mm x 64mm x 20mm
Imperial: 4.8" x 2.48" x 0.79"
Dimensions without case:
Metric: 117mm x 59mm x 15mm
Imperial: 4.61" x 2.32" x 0.59"

There is a coupon code for that site.
DISC2011
Will get you 10% off.
I'm picking up a purple one for my wife and can add some pics to this thread too if people want to see another color option on a phone.

What is that spiky, purple thing in the last pic?

wizputer said:
Dimensions with case (L x W x T):
Metric: 122mm x 64mm x 20mm
Imperial: 4.8" x 2.48" x 0.79"
Dimensions without case:
Metric: 117mm x 59mm x 15mm
Imperial: 4.61" x 2.32" x 0.59"
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Thanks for the info

silex said:
What is that spiky, purple thing in the last pic?
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Haha, it's a cat brush. I couldn't get the phone to balance on its side so I used to to hold it up.
http://www.amazon.com/Kong-Zoom-Groom-For-Cat/dp/B00009ZJ0Q

Curiosity did not kill the cat this time, hehe.
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concern
I too am not interested in adding size to my phone.
I am most interested in the Ghost Armor product. All the protection, with no additional size.

I have this case as well for my phone, and i love it!!! doesn't add any really noticeable size to the phone and gives it the right amount of protection... great case

Sticker on Moto button on back of phone?

hey everyone,
Just got my new moto x and was wondering if there is a protective sticker over the Motorola button on the back of the phone? It looks like it has one on it but I can't seem to get it off and I don't want to scratch it up trying.

Shoops said:
hey everyone,
Just got my new moto x and was wondering if there is a protective sticker over the Motorola button on the back of the phone? It looks like it has one on it but I can't seem to get it off and I don't want to scratch it up trying.
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same here... It appears to have one but I can't get it off (and don't want to try too hard in case there really isn't one there).

co.ag.2005 said:
same here... It appears to have one but I can't get it off (and don't want to try too hard in case there really isn't one there).
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Mine does not have one nor does it seem to. Feels like metal.

Mine did not come with any plastic on the M logo so I would be kind of surprised if yours did... It's more of just a soft touch type of coating on the metal I believe.

Mine doesn't have one and never did.

Mine does not have a sticker either it has a weird texture
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No sticker on mine, just aluminum. I'm kind of ticked off because I already have two dents on that emblem. I have no clue how that happened. Not from any drops. It hasn't been in my pocket with other objects Either from me pressing it with my finger nail in my pocket?? Or my kids pressing on it really hard because it looks like a button?? Looks pretty junky now

Its not a sticker its a type of finish on it (sprayed on or something)....doesnt look or feel too good IMO.

Anyone swap parts to chance color?

Like the title says, I have a blue one, wanting to change over to a white...here are the parts:
http://www.etradesupply.com/motorola-nexus-6-middle-plate-white.html
http://www.etradesupply.com/motorola-nexus-6-battery-door-cover-24205.html
Curious if anyone has done this before. I've seen teardowns and I've done something similar to this on a Nexus 5.

stevew84 said:
Like the title says, I have a blue one, wanting to change over to a white...here are the parts:
http://www.etradesupply.com/motorola-nexus-6-middle-plate-white.html
http://www.etradesupply.com/motorola-nexus-6-battery-door-cover-24205.html
Curious if anyone has done this before. I've seen teardowns and I've done something similar to this on a Nexus 5.
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I swapped backs to get rid of the "ghost image" of the AT&T logo. It was easy. Only took about 10 minutes.

cam30era said:
I swapped backs to get rid of the "ghost image" of the AT&T logo. It was easy. Only took about 10 minutes.
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Awesome, I ordered the middle plate (has the bezel and holds the internal battery) and the white battery cover. This will turn the phone from the blue variant to the white variant completely...all for about $60.

stevew84 said:
Awesome, I ordered the middle plate (has the bezel and holds the internal battery) and the white battery cover. This will turn the phone from the blue variant to the white variant completely...all for about $60.
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I just did this on Monday of this week. I got my parts from eBay. You will still need to order the silver/white sim tray which I also found on eBay.
In addition I went with the Moto X Pro back instead of the white one.

bp328i said:
I just did this on Monday of this week. I got my parts from eBay. You will still need to order the silver/white sim tray which I also found on eBay.
In addition I went with the Moto X Pro back instead of the white one.
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Whats the moto X pro? and damnit about the sim tray.

stevew84 said:
Whats the moto X pro? and damnit about the sim tray.
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It's basically the Nexus 6 but it's sold in China and the back does not say Nexus on it and its black with a soft touch feel to it. Give me a minute and I'll post up some pictures of my phone.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app

bp328i said:
It's basically the Nexus 6 but it's sold in China and the back does not say Nexus on it and its black with a soft touch feel to it. Give me a minute and I'll post up some pictures of my phone.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
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Damnit, so does it feel something like the black Nexus 5? that weird soft/gel type feel?
Also, looking at the middle plate that I ordered and it seems like I only need to swap out the camera and a couple of other things. The small delicate pieces seem to come with the new housing. The battery being the biggest thing to have to remove, should go smoothly tho since I'm not separating the digitizer from the front glass.
Did you have any hiccups or anything like that?
Oh, I have a white Moto X and it looks like the sim tray is the same part number as the tray of the Nexus 6, so I'll just swap them over. Where did you find the replacement battery cover for the Moto X Pro?

stevew84 said:
Damnit, so does it feel something like the black Nexus 5? that weird soft/gel type feel?
Also, looking at the middle plate that I ordered and it seems like I only need to swap out the camera and a couple of other things. The small delicate pieces seem to come with the new housing. The battery being the biggest thing to have to remove, should go smoothly tho since I'm not separating the digitizer from the front glass.
Did you have any hiccups or anything like that?
Oh, I have a white Moto X and it looks like the sim tray is the same part number as the tray of the Nexus 6, so I'll just swap them over. Where did you find the replacement battery cover for the Moto X Pro?
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Here are the pictures of before and after.
Here is the link the the back I bought, I ordered the black one and yes it's almost like the Nexus 5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Housing-Battery-Back-Cover-Rear-Door-For-Google-Nexus-6-XT1100-Motorola-Shamu-/251723199982?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=550648934210&hash=item3a9bdf35ee
And here is a link to the sim tray I bought.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271876699768?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=570713175240&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I had no issues at all doing the swap.

bp328i said:
Here are the pictures of before and after.
Here is the link the the back I bought, I ordered the black one and yes it's almost like the Nexus 5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Housing-Battery-Back-Cover-Rear-Door-For-Google-Nexus-6-XT1100-Motorola-Shamu-/251723199982?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=550648934210&hash=item3a9bdf35ee
And here is a link to the sim tray I bought.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271876699768?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=570713175240&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I had no issues at all doing the swap.
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Awesome, thanks. So you didn't swap out the actual bezel piece?

stevew84 said:
Awesome, thanks. So you didn't swap out the actual bezel piece?
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Yes I did, in the first picture it's blue and the second picture it's white/silver.
Here is the link to the frame I bought.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351333448156?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
This weekend I'm going to switch back to the one that was once blue because I've done this to it.
Polished aluminum!

bp328i said:
Yes I did, in the first picture it's blue and the second picture it's white/silver.
This weekend I'm going to switch back to the one that was once blue because I've done this to it.
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Ohhh you did the polishing thing? That's awesome. What all did you have to transfer over from your complete middle plate to the new white plate? I'll be able to tell once I get my hands on it but it would be nice to know what to expect.
If there was a way to flat black the entire bezel, I'd be down for that. Similar to the black HTC one.

stevew84 said:
Ohhh you did the polishing thing? That's awesome. What all did you have to transfer over from your complete middle plate to the new white plate? I'll be able to tell once I get my hands on it but it would be nice to know what to expect.
If there was a way to flat black the entire bezel, I'd be down for that. Similar to the black HTC one.
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If I remember correctly it was just the battery, the top speaker, and the camera glass.
Battery was the hardest part as the other two just pop out.

bp328i said:
If I remember correctly it was just the battery, the top speaker, and the camera glass.
Battery was the hardest part as the other two just pop out.
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Thanks. I'll update when I get the parts.
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bp328i said:
If I remember correctly it was just the battery, the top speaker, and the camera glass.
Battery was the hardest part as the other two just pop out.
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Hey did you have an issue with the adhesive on the back cover? meaning did your replacement back come with adhesive already attached? I've seen that you can purchase the adhesive separately so I wasn't sure if it comes with the cover.

stevew84 said:
Hey did you have an issue with the adhesive on the back cover? meaning did your replacement back come with adhesive already attached? I've seen that you can purchase the adhesive separately so I wasn't sure if it comes with the cover.
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Mine came with the adhesive already attached. It is a real pain in the a$$ to get the stock one off. I use a heat gun to warm it up a little and it helped a lot!
At first I thought it might be tough to line the new one up on the first try but it was easy. I pulled off the adhesive backing fully and then lined the top up with the camera hole and it went down fine.

bp328i said:
Mine came with the adhesive already attached. It is a real pain in the a$$ to get the stock one off. I use a heat gun to warm it up a little and it helped a lot!
At first I thought it might be tough to line the new one up on the first try but it was easy. I pulled off the adhesive backing fully and then lined the top up with the camera hole and it went down fine.
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Thanks for the tips man.
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stevew84 said:
Thanks for the tips man.
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I wish I found this video before I did mine because getting the back started was the hardest part for me.
https://youtu.be/Yk1CGk0TZAw
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Don't forget the Sim tray.

bp328i said:
I wish I found this video before I did mine because getting the back started was the hardest part for me.
https://youtu.be/Yk1CGk0TZAw
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dhollis72 said:
Don't forget the Sim tray.
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All of the parts came in the mail yesterday, so that's the middle plate, tools and white back battery cover (with adhesive attached). I went through TMO to get yet another warranty replacement since my power button is kind of wonky, so I'll have a couple of N6's to take apart and compare to make sure things are done correctly.
Thanks for the tips.

stevew84 said:
All of the parts came in the mail yesterday, so that's the middle plate, tools and white back battery cover (with adhesive attached). I went through TMO to get yet another warranty replacement since my power button is kind of wonky, so I'll have a couple of N6's to take apart and compare to make sure things are done correctly.
Thanks for the tips.
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I was going to wait to switch to my polished aluminum frame until I got another back because I when I took my stock blue one off I scratched it up a bit.
But since I found that video I went ahead and switched the frames out again before the other back I ordered came.
I don't think I have ever received so many compliments on a phone (and I've had almost every flagship phone) as I have on my Nexus 6 with the polished aluminum frame and Moto X Pro back.

Moto Z2 Force with Moto TurboPower Mod | Limited Edition | Launch Event

Motorola India to Launch Limited Edition, Moto Z2 Force with Moto TurboPower Mod which will go Live Today i.e. February 15th, 12:00 Hrs. The Limited Edition #MotoZ2Force with #MotoTurboPowerPack is on its way to end your #flagship hardship! The Moto Z2 Force runs Android 8.0 Oreo. The phone sports a 5.5-inch QHD (1440x2560 pixels) ShatterShield POLED display. It is powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 SoC , coupled with 4GB/ 6GB of RAM.

Anyone from India bought this via flipkart?

nishthecooldude said:
Anyone from India bought this via flipkart?
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I did, got it today. Its so thin and tested the shatterproof display almost 10 times.. Great phone

rajivrajagopal said:
I did, got it today. Its so thin and tested the shatterproof display almost 10 times.. Great phone
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I also received it today! Indeed it is thin. Did you order any covers / screenguard for it ?

Nothing good is available for Z2 force as of now. I ordered one tempered glass from Flipkart, yet to reach me. Since the display is plastic it is not scratch proof. Need to apply a screen guard ASAP. Covers I think you can go for any Z2 play cases, not tried though.

rajivrajagopal said:
Nothing good is available for Z2 force as of now. I ordered one tempered glass from Flipkart, yet to reach me. Since the display is plastic it is not scratch proof. Need to apply a screen guard ASAP. Covers I think you can go for any Z2 play cases, not tried though.
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if you want to use a moto mod verizon makes a bumper case that you can use while using a mod like extra battery, which i keep on all the time. BTW as for screen protectors, xtremeguard in ebay, #1 source for all my screen protectors

Screen protector

Just purchased a mate x and wonder if the screen protector can be removed and replaced by a hydragel one . I have seen this done on the x2 but not sure about the x. Thanks

reamalaka said:
Just purchased a mate x and wonder if the screen protector can be removed and replaced by a hydragel one . I have seen this done on the x2 but not sure about the x. Thanks
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looks like you can