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Hey guys, every time I restart my phone, and it goes through the process of checking storage and everything, I get a little hash symbol icon in the top bar that says 'su binary outdated' when I click on it, it doesn't look all that safe but it pops up every time, im worried if I go through with it it may be a virus... I rooted my phone with z4 root and installed lag fix v2. Anyone got any advice or guarantee that it is safe? It wants to down load a file when I press update but I *****ed it ang closed it...
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Its the super user binary should be safe as almost everyone is using the super user app. It enables root permissions to the apps you want. Should update to v3.0 i think, ive done it no problems so far...
stuey.89 said:
I get a little hash symbol icon in the top bar that says 'su binary outdated'
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I just upgraded my FW via Kies the other day from 2.2 to 2.3.3 KG3 and lost my root in the process. Have not rooted it again yet as been trying to sort out the best way to root with KG3 - seems some people having problems with speedmod (my root kernel previously) and KG3.
I still have the superuser icon and i'm getting the same message as you to update it - I have hit go ahead but it won't because I don't have root access but if you are rooted it should be safe to update it.
As soon as i root my phone again I certainly will....
EDIT: flashed .tar file found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211939&highlight=haloimplant&page=19
and rooted again no problemo. still on same kies-upgraded KG3 stock firmware. Superuser updated with busybox and TiB updated. now to find a decent kernel/rom....
Have a very weird and frustrating issue with my UK i9305 on EE.
As soon as it's rooted, no matter what SU app I use, it starts to heat up and leak RAM once booted until it runs out of RAM and restarts. And repeat. Until I unroot it and the problem stops. Initially, I thought it was a problem with SuperSU but I've also tried ChainsDD and Koush's Superuser apps with the same result. It looks like something requesting root access is causing a problem but I don't know what. It has said that it's granting root access to "shell" if that's anything to go by?
I resorted to wiping, flashing a newer 4.1.2 stock ROM (BLL5) but I still have the same problem. Can't for the life of me work out what's going on and really don't want to have to wipe again, especially since it seems not to fix the problem anyway.
Any ideas?
What method of root are you using??
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Which version of SuperSU are you using? This was an issue in V1.0 for all Galaxy phones, and Chainfire has already released a workaround for this in the latest versions.
I've rooted using both CF Autoroot and mskip's toolkit. Same issue with both.
I'm aware of the issue with SuperSU and I've used subsequent versions of it (and indeed different SU apps) without success.
Interestingly, whatever version of SuperSU I try, the binaries can't be updated. I'm wondering if a previous unroot has left me with some relic of SuperSU that is causing me problems.
dave_uk said:
I've rooted using both CF Autoroot and mskip's toolkit. Same issue with both.
I'm aware of the issue with SuperSU and I've used subsequent versions of it (and indeed different SU apps) without success.
Interestingly, whatever version of SuperSU I try, the binaries can't be updated. I'm wondering if a previous unroot has left me with some relic of SuperSU that is causing me problems.
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What about an Odin flash with stock firmware than try and root or flash a pre-rooted stock firmware?
Thanks
I did Odin flash the firmware I currently have but once I rooted, had the same problem.
dave_uk said:
I did Odin flash the firmware I currently have but once I rooted, had the same problem.
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Use Odin v3.0x and flash Stock pre-rooted ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32929446
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Have you tried rooting without restoring the apps?
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Have you tried rooting without restoring the apps?
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Thats what I thought reading his problem, never heard of "Shell" asking for SU-Rights
Hey guys! So I read around about rooting Android 6.0.1 and I only see systemless root. I am rooted right now using systemless root and it works fine, but my question is, is there a way to root 6.0.1 with traditional system root? Or is systemless the only way? Just curious really. Will systemless most likely be the future of rooting and the way it's going to have to be done from now on to keep Android Pay working?
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I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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Thanks for the response! And I wonder if it will be what it is for now! It's the only way to keep Android Pay working while the device is rooted correct? Android Pay refuses to work with a traditionally rooted device?
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StykerB said:
I don't know of anyone who's made the kernel mods required for traditional root. I'd say that systemless root is probably going to be the only way to root from now on at least on nexus devices. Chainfire outlines things that don't work with systemless root on the supersu forums.
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I did. I still use SU2.52. But only until this weekend. I'm switching to systemless too.
Actually building a permissive kernel is really straightforward, needs one line of code added. The build is about five minuters then with abootimg you can just replace the existing with the newly buil kernel in the boot.img, and flash it.
I can give you details if you're interested.
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
kamkar said:
Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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Mine works perfectly.
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Hi
I have a serious problem with ES File Explorer. This app (and maybe other Apps) says device isn't root, since I cant use ES in root explorer mode.
I heard Titanium Backup has the same issue with this future root!
now I back to 6.0 and waiting for a solution.
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The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
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Krzysiek_CK said:
Mine works perfectly.
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How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
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The first systemless root did that, go back to that thread and get the newest version and flash that, fixed that issue.
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I tested 2.61, is problem fixed in 2.62.3? because I must flash 6.0.1 and setup phone again!
i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.
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i rooted the old fashioned way, there's no difference except you also have to flash a custom kernel when flashing supersu.
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Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
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Same way it was with 6.0 right? And Android Pay doesn't work with traditional root? Does it break anything else besides Android Pay?
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ive no use for pay, so never tried. i assume its broken..
Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.
carmatana said:
Sorry,
I have a Nexus 6 with 6.0.
I am trying to find how to update to 6.0.1 with no-enforced-encryption and then do a systemless rooting but I cannot find the instructions to do this
Seems that just flashing stock, TWRP and the flashing supersu 2.61 from there is enough to have systemless root, right?
but what about no-force-encrypt?
Probably I am changing the discussion but have not found a good thread, apologies.
Thanks in advance.
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What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.
H4X0R46 said:
What you probably wanna do is go for a custom kernel that doesn't force encryption. Most if not all don't force it! Elementalx is a good one, maybe elite kernel, and so many others! I use ElementalX on mine, my favorite kernel. www.elementalx.org if you wanna try that one! Others are found here on XDA!
EDIT: Looks like elementalx says to use SuperSU 2.61 or later, which is systemless, I would try another. Maybe elite or another one.
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Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
carmatana said:
Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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I would say yes, I'm 90% sure but could be wrong. I would flash the a new update with fastboot.
carmatana said:
Thanks !!! I will check them, I always have tried to be as close to stock as possible but I think it is time to try something new.
One question: Do Custom Kernels interfere with OTA updates?, this is one of the advertised advantages of systemless rooting and is one of my favorites.
Thanks again
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Any mod stops ota's. Root, kernels....You will have to flash full images to get updates. You can skip the userdata part and save your apps and data. But you will have to flash.
Not a big deal, it an extra couple of commands just like the kernel you want to flash.
Thanks!
kamkar said:
How? I pass this steps to install and root 6.0.1:
First of all, I have a clean install of 6.0.1
then flash TWRP
In TWRP, install SuperSU 2.61 that flash a custom boot.img automatically. after dalvik/cash wipe, reboot to OS
After that, reboot to recovery again and flash a custom kernel
but supersu doesn't work and ES file explorer says device doesn't have root permission.
however, I need read/write permission in /system folder to delete some useless apks
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Clean 6.0.1 followed by systemless root installation as expained in the Root done right thread.
So after getting my replacement N910T, I rooted it using the method here, and it seemed to go well, but during the process of reinstalling apps, I noticed some erratic behavior like the device not allowing root access when root checker says it is rooted. Or SuperSu not asking for SU access on apps that normally do, thereby denying root access, like Root Explorer. When I go back and check root checker again, sometimes it shows that it has access and other times it says that it doesn't. For a device with a supposedly unlocked bootloader, I've never encountered so many issues. My AT&T S4 which has a locked BL never gave me any issues once it was rooted. With all the devices I've rooted over the years, I've never had this much trouble. So I'm wondering if it's corrupted somehow? Or is there something about this systemless root that is the issue?
Here are the basics:
Android 5.1.1
Baseband OK2
Kernel Version 3.10.40-6209177
Build Number LMY47X.N910TUVU2DOK2
I've read threads until I'm crosseyed and googled but couldn't really come up with anything, so I could use some help here.
I had the same problem with a Note 4 Tmo I am working with. What SuperSU version are you using?
I had root issue problems (root chk says rooted, issues in ES File Expl, etc) when I used anything higher than 2.65.
Try flashing SuperSU 2.65 stable through recovery (I use TWRP 2.8.?.?) and when exiting out of recovery DO NOT allow SuperSU to be installed as SuperSU installation says...
Thanks much for the response. I'm using SuperSu 2.71; I didn't choose this version, it came with the root I got from here. So where do I find this version you're referring to?
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Hi have you figured out your issue yet. If not, Try using supersu 2.52. It's the last full system root I believe. I have had much better luck with full system than systemless.
noob4598 said:
Hi have you figured out your issue yet. If not, Try using supersu 2.52. It's the last full system root I believe. I have had much better luck with full system than systemless.
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I haven't tried anything else yet, I giving my head some time to clear. I've been at this for hours now, so I need a rest. Can I find that version of SuperSu as a flash able zip?
I used the links from Chainfire's thread on XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
Download to stable 2.65 is in that thread points to this link:
https://download.chainfire.eu/921/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.65-20151226141550.zip
https://download.chainfire.eu/743/supersu this is link to 2.52 zip if u need it
Thanks for all the help, I'm glad this happened to someone other than me. One thing though: I'm on OK2, I thought you couldn't have system root with that.
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Okay, the installation of supersu 2.52 via TWRP has definitely made a difference! The device is noticeably stabler now. One last thing, though: root checker shows it's rooted, but says that a superuser app isn't installed, which is what I thought supersu was. So now what?
Did you flash over 2.71. And do you have a su app icon on your scrren.
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Did you flash over 2.71. And do you have a su app icon on your scrren.
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Yes, I just flashed it from TWRP without doing anything else. And no, there isn't a Su app icon on the screen. I have a nandroid backup that'll put it back to the way it was before I did that, just in case it crashed and burned.
Download the app from playstore and then go to settings and do a full unroot. Then reboot to recovery and flash 2.52 then wipe cache and dalviche and reboot
MUCH BETTER!!! I'm in the process of reinstalling all of my apps; I don't want to take a chance of restoring my backup from Titanium, just in case there's something that won't play right.
I'll report back in a day or so.
Thanks to everyone who provided answers, it is most appreciated!
Welcome bud.
Thank you for the information guys. I was having the same issue as OP. Reverted SU as described and everything is much smoother
Yes, it's been a few days and my device is working the way it is supposed to. Interestingly enough, my SuperSU has automatically updated to version 2.65 but it's still working fine.
I've since turned off automatic updates in Google Play for fear of getting a version that begins the cycle all over again.
I still have the issue with the device telling me that the recovery is not seandroid enforcing even though I've updated to TWRP 3.0, and the set warranty bit: kernel issue. In spite of these, my device seems to work just fine with no issues.
Thanks again to everyone who offered help. It's nice when people offer help instead of posting just to tell you to find the answer yourself.
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Your welcome. And I get kernel is not seandroid enforcing on every reboot. Thought it was normal ha
My research on this has taken me all over the place, but none of the suggestions or explanations seem to apply. The device isn't ostensibly crippled, so I don't know.
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I think it's normal...maybe...ha Im pretty sure it's the warranty bit
are there root for N910A 5.1.1
I have an n910t running 5.1.1., dok2. I tried rooting several times with chainfire for 5.1.1. through Odin. It goes through the process okay (or at least it seems to), and appears to work at first, but then I lose it. Root Checker verifies root, as does SuperSU, but after a few minutes it's gone. Ive installed Titanium Backup, AdAway, and AdBlock. For the most part, they don't recognize root. If they do (it takes a long time to recognize) they lose it shortly thereafter. Rebooting doesn't help. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. Anyone have any ideas??
Just looked now. For one example, SuperSU acknowledges AdAway, but when I try to fire up AdAway, it won't work, saying it doesn't have access.
Did you install twrp and did it ask after you booted to twrp if you wanted to root the device.. if so this was a no no.. your already rooted twrp just get a little confused with the new kernels... you must remove root and reinstall supersu and when it ask when you load twrp do not root but reboot do not swipe... unless there is an easier way this worked for me...
I had the same or a similar problem. I didn't lose root completely but at times various apps were unable to gain root (after previously getting it successfully). The phone would freeze while Titanium or Root Explorer for example were waiting fruitlessly for root to be granted. It was haphazard. One time the app would work and next time it wouldn't, or another wouldn't.
Finally it got so frustrating that I installed my favorite rom on it (Tekhd). Now all is stable. I was hoping to keep it stock rooted until mm came out but I couldn't figure out what was going on so I blew it away. I had twrp on it too and would always be prompted "root not detected" but if I allowed it to install SuperSu it would loop.
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Thanks for the replies. I tried to install twrp once, but it kept freezing. Then I tried without it. Similar behavior outcomes either way.
I'm leaning toward just swapping out ROMS as this is very annoying. Isn't that a dangerous thing to attempt if root is so unstable though?
Eric618 said:
Thanks for the replies. I tried to install twrp once, but it kept freezing. Then I tried without it. Similar behavior outcomes either way.
I'm leaning toward just swapping out ROMS as this is very annoying. Isn't that a dangerous thing to attempt if root is so unstable though?
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you need to odin the firmware for your phone and then restart fresh
without root twrp won't install rom you will get error..
Thanks. I did start fresh with stock firmware. Tried three times. Same result each time. I just reflashed to stock this morning. I'm actually using my old GS3 until I can figure this out. I'm on AT&T's network. I bought the T-Mobile variant just so I could root and possibly test drive a few custom ROMs. I'm ticked that even root has been elusive so far!
Any other suggestions?
Eric618 said:
Thanks. I did start fresh with stock firmware. Tried three times. Same result each time. I just reflashed to stock this morning. I'm actually using my old GS3 until I can figure this out. I'm on AT&T's network. I bought the T-Mobile variant just so I could root and possibly test drive a few custom ROMs. I'm ticked that even root has been elusive so far!
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Make sure your using a none corrupt download and when flashing root and twrp never let the phone restart to android screen... after you root and cf autoroot reboots hold down the buttons to boot into download mode and flash twrp.. make sure to get the .tar for 3.0 twrp.. if you need it i can post and once in DL mode flash twrp and then again do not boot the phone fully boot to twrp before and make backup if needed and when it ask after your done in twrp if you wanna root do not root in twrp... if this does not work i'm not sure what else it could be ... i have rooted my note 4 five times in the last month tring different things and it has happan one time to me and i had to odin firmware...
Thanks! I'll give that a try when I get home today.
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Make sure your using a none corrupt download and when flashing root and twrp never let the phone restart to android screen... after you root and cf autoroot reboots hold down the buttons to boot into download mode and flash twrp.. make sure to get the .tar for 3.0 twrp.. if you need it i can post and once in DL mode flash twrp and then again do not boot the phone fully boot to twrp before and make backup if needed and when it ask after your done in twrp if you wanna root do not root in twrp... if this does not work i'm not sure what else it could be ... i have rooted my note 4 five times in the last month tring different things and it has happan one time to me and i had to odin firmware...
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You rock!! It seems that took care of it. I went through the process last night, but wanted to wait a bit to see if any issues surfaced. So far, it's been perfect. Thank you!!
Eric618 said:
You rock!! It seems that took care of it. I went through the process last night, but wanted to wait a bit to see if any issues surfaced. So far, it's been perfect. Thank you!!
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Eric618 said:
I have an n910t running 5.1.1., dok2. I tried rooting several times with chainfire for 5.1.1. through Odin. It goes through the process okay (or at least it seems to), and appears to work at first, but then I lose it. Root Checker verifies root, as does SuperSU, but after a few minutes it's gone. Ive installed Titanium Backup, AdAway, and AdBlock. For the most part, they don't recognize root. If they do (it takes a long time to recognize) they lose it shortly thereafter. Rebooting doesn't help. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. Anyone have any ideas??
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Or as is the case with some roms, if an app takes to long to get supersu permission, especially after a reboot, all u have to do is open the supersu app then open the app u want root for.
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Or as is the case with some roms, if an app takes to long to get supersu permission, especially after a reboot, all u have to do is open the supersu app then open the app u want root for.
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I had tried that. It was very sluggish, and would frequently drop root access altogether. Since following S5Sickness's advice it's been solid, however.
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