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I know there is no MHL - even tested to be positive and it doesn't work - however, wondering what other options potentially exist for screen mirroring to a TV?
Not interested in DLNA (I've used Skifka/similar and it's good) but I want to mirror so I can stream anything from the N7 (games, Hulu, etc.) to my TV.
Thanks!
|mpulse said:
I know there is no MHL - even tested to be positive and it doesn't work - however, wondering what other options potentially exist for screen mirroring to a TV?
Not interested in DLNA (I've used Skifka/similar and it's good) but I want to mirror so I can stream anything from the N7 (games, Hulu, etc.) to my TV.
Thanks!
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Roku juice if you own a Roku for some content, I don't think games, but I haven't tried...
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http://esrlabs.com
"Android transporter" with a raspberry pi may be an option in the near future. I already have a RPi, so this would be awesome for me.
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Roku juice if you own a Roku for some content, I don't think games, but I haven't tried...
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Does it support Hulu or other streaming services, or just media that's on your local device? If the latter then it's the same as DLNA/Skifka.
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Does it support Hulu or other streaming services, or just media that's on your local device? If the latter then it's the same as DLNA/Skifka.
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if you have a Roku hooked up to your TV already, there are separate channels for things like Hulu and Netflix. You would stream to Roku direct over wifi from internet, not through the android device. The Roku juice channel and application just enables you to stream media from the android to the TV through Roku. I have only tried it for pictures, and not with Jellybean yet at all. I doubt it works unless the media is located on your android. I can test tonight when I get home, I'm at work now.
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I am not sure if it will even support WiFI Direct Display mirroring as has been demoed on the OMAP 4 series chipset. As, that was one of the advantages the OMAP4 had over the Tegra 3. In either case we haven't seen a lot happen with that either.
Just an update to my post, I tested the Roku juice demo on the nexus 7, it seems to work for local media and had a podcast option I didn't know what to do with. But no streaming of games.
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kisrita said:
Just an update to my post, I tested the Roku juice demo on the nexus 7, it seems to work for local media and had a podcast option I didn't know what to do with. But no streaming of games.
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If i get install the Nexus & with the plex app and use it to stream the content to the roku box ( $50) version would that work always for audio video and images? And when I have the roku and the tablet set u on the same wifi network...would streaming from my nexus to the roku use my data or bandwidth?
theshree said:
If i get install the Nexus & with the plex app and use it to stream the content to the roku box ( $50) version would that work always for audio video and images? And when I have the roku and the tablet set u on the same wifi network...would streaming from my nexus to the roku use my data or bandwidth?
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You would install Plex server on a PC, and the Plex media channel on the Roku, and/or Plex media app on the android device. With this setup, you could stream videos from your PC, or from the Internet (if using Internet channels like Hulu) to either the Roku, or to your Android device. The Roku uses your wifi network, android devices can use wifi or cellphone data.
If you are trying to stream a video saved on your android device to your TV, then you don't use Plex. You would need Roku juice installed on the android and on the Roku box too. Note, I only tried this with their demo app, which is limited to the first video and I did not see the Transformers video in the list. I don't know if that is a demo limitation, or if the Roku juice app can only stream videos you record on your android device.
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Hey,
I've just seen a Miracast set top box from Netgear. This could be the solution to the missing HDMI out of the Nexus 7!
http://www.netgear.de/products/home/hometheater/media-players/PTV3000.aspx
Can anyone remember nVidias demo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso
Let's hope it will work SOON!!!
towlie288 said:
Hey,
I've just seen a Miracast set top box from Netgear. This could be the solution to the missing HDMI out of the Nexus 7!
http://www.netgear.de/products/home/hometheater/media-players/PTV3000.aspx
Can anyone remember nVidias demo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso
Let's hope it will work SOON!!!
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It sais you need aNotebook, Smartphone or Tablet with Intel® WiDi oder Miracast™,
does our Nexus 7 has Inel WiDi or Miracast?
Is it just Software or do you need special Hardware Support for that?
It would be nice if i could stream from my Laptop or my Galaxy SII as well.
fryroyal said:
It sais you need aNotebook, Smartphone or Tablet with Intel® WiDi oder Miracast™,
does our Nexus 7 has Inel WiDi or Miracast?
Is it just Software or do you need special Hardware Support for that?
It would be nice if i could stream from my Laptop or my Galaxy SII as well.
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Did you watch the Video? The Tegra 3 can do it. I don't know more... but I hope there will be a software update to do it.
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i do know the tegra 3 is miracast capable i dont think i can post a link so ill just post what i found, this is dated july 27 2012.
Nvidia, a member of the Wi-Fi Alliance, announced that it's supporting the new Miracast WiFi-Direct based protocol which is expected to launch by the Wi-Fi Alliance within the next few months.
For the uninitiated, Miracast will be an open standard, so any mobile device or display manufacturer will be able to implement the technology. It will also be a direct competitor to closed eco-systems like Intel's WiDi and Apple's AirPlay which enable users to wirelessly stream videos and games to external displays.
There are also other open standards for streaming media such as DLNA, but these are plagued with interoperability issues that have limited their traction in the market place. To address the limitations of these solutions, the Wi-Fi Alliance created its upcoming open wireless display standard called Miracast.
"Underpinning the Miracast specification is Wi-Fi Direct – a specification defined for peer-to-peer, direct wireless connectivity between devices," Nvidia said on Thursday in its whitepaper. "Miracast Certified devices will be able to connect with each other directly, without the mediation of a wireless access point, by leveraging the functionality introduced by Wi-Fi Direct. When two devices connect with each other directly, one assumes the role of the source (transmitting device) and the other becomes a sink (the devices receiving and rendering the content to the user)."
Nvidia said that it has developed a Miracast wireless display stack that is Tegra 3 optimized and can be integrated into the Tegra mobile platform. This source-side solution enables tablet and phone OEMs to implement a Miracast certifiable product by combining the Tegra application processor and compatible Tegra Android BSP package just as they do today.
"The Tegra optimized Miracast solution is comprised of two major components – the multimedia (video/audio) processing block and the industry compliant wireless display networking stack," Nvidia explained. "The multimedia processing block takes advantage of Tegra’s multi-core graphics engine and dedicated hardware video/audio codecs to accelerate the decoding of video content, render graphics surfaces and perform the final compositing operations before encoding into a H.264 bit stream to be wirelessly transmitted."
We are miracast certified, however there needs to be an app to activate this tech for us, I believe, but if they have the set top box, chances are there's an app for it, too.
All I can say is, yay! Step in the right direction. -Ara
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Hopefully it isn't $99. Maybe $49. I'm not paying a ton of money just to get video to my TV. $50 tops.
How is the 3000 compared to the PTV2000 that is already available at Best Buy and stuff?
http://www.netgear.com/home/products/hometheater/media-players/PTV2000.aspx
I don't see the PTV3000 on the US site.
The PTV2000 is $99 at Best Buy. eff that.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/NETGEAR...309756217&skuId=2103213&st=netgear&cp=1&lp=22
Is this to mirror the display? Like HDMI?
Or is it just a file viewer? Like DLNA?
Cl8rs said:
Is this to mirror the display? Like HDMI?
Or is it just a file viewer? Like DLNA?
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Miracast is a new standard for wireless display. So basically a mirrored image or maybe a second screen. I'm hoping I could widi a video and control it all with my tablet/phone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd6PkRqNxs0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That's how you play full hd shows/movies/music with no dramas its been around for ages. Best part is wd keep updating the firmware so it plays anything I throw at it.
Gaming well you can't do that but if you can't see the 7" screen right in front of you well you'd probably find it more beneficial to invest in glasses.
It also has some other benefits too, bubble upnp is one of the best things I have come across.
Wdtvlive and Bubble upnp a match made in Sofia Vergara's underpants.
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player911 said:
Hopefully it isn't $99. Maybe $49. I'm not paying a ton of money just to get video to my TV. $50 tops.
How is the 3000 compared to the PTV2000 that is already available at Best Buy and stuff?
http://www.netgear.com/home/products/hometheater/media-players/PTV2000.aspx
I don't see the PTV3000 on the US site.
The PTV2000 is $99 at Best Buy. eff that.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/NETGEAR...309756217&skuId=2103213&st=netgear&cp=1&lp=22
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The difference is that only the ptv3000 is miracast capable. At least that's what the product page says. I've already written an email to net gear Germany to ask them about this box. As soon as I have an answer I will post it.
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Cl8rs said:
Is this to mirror the display? Like HDMI?
Or is it just a file viewer? Like DLNA?
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Did you watch the YouTube video in the first post?
There you see what you can do with tegra 3 and miracast.
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towlie288 said:
Did you watch the YouTube video in the first post?
There you see what you can do with tegra 3 and miracast.
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Got it. I didn't see the video.
So I am assuming this is the first TV Box(similar to like a Roku or something) that allows us to wirelessly display our Nexus to our HDTV? That's what I am seeing. Also it's only in Germany at the moment.
But the question is, do our Nexus 7's natively support something like this? I am assuming this needs development, like an app or software update.
Any news on this?
Not sure I see the point of this. I already have a WD Live that can stream all my video from my PC to my TV. Why would I put video on my N7, then send to my TV when I can just send it directly to my TV? Even the 16 GB N7 can maybe just barely hold a decently encoded movie at full 1080p. I just don't think I have any content on my N7 that cannot be sent to my TV in an easier, higher quality way.
Edit: Been thinking about this. Seriously, what do you use it for? The only thing I could come up with is letting your friends watch you play a game on the tablet or something. Every other scenario I can think of has a better solution.
brizey said:
Not sure I see the point of this. I already have a WD Live that can stream all my video from my PC to my TV. Why would I put video on my N7, then send to my TV when I can just send it directly to my TV? Even the 16 GB N7 can maybe just barely hold a decently encoded movie at full 1080p. I just don't think I have any content on my N7 that cannot be sent to my TV in an easier, higher quality way.
Edit: Been thinking about this. Seriously, what do you use it for? The only thing I could come up with is letting your friends watch you play a game on the tablet or something. Every other scenario I can think of has a better solution.
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It's not only for videos. I have a tf101 transformer and used it to give presentations at the university with HDMI out. The point is to mirror the screen content of your device and not only play back media.
And it looks promising with the low latency.
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towlie288 said:
It's not only for videos. I have a tf101 transformer and used it to give presentations at the university with HDMI out. The point is to mirror the screen content of your device and not only play back media.
And it looks promising with the low latency.
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My thoughts too, I am looking forward to be able to mirror my N7 screen to my 46" TV.
brizey said:
Not sure I see the point of this. I already have a WD Live that can stream all my video from my PC to my TV. Why would I put video on my N7, then send to my TV when I can just send it directly to my TV? Even the 16 GB N7 can maybe just barely hold a decently encoded movie at full 1080p. I just don't think I have any content on my N7 that cannot be sent to my TV in an easier, higher quality way.
Edit: Been thinking about this. Seriously, what do you use it for? The only thing I could come up with is letting your friends watch you play a game on the tablet or something. Every other scenario I can think of has a better solution.
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Emulation Gaming. Plug your tablet up to the TV and use a PS3 gamepad for true retro couch gaming.
I don't stream movies and such, as I'd rather just watch them off the device.
I'm curious about this as well.
Here's some more info about it that I dug up from arstechnica.
In most cases, Miracast can be implemented in software alone, Robinson said. It has a head start, because Android already supports WiFi Direct since version 4.0 . But hardware modifications will help optimize devices for the type of compression, decoding, and encoding Miracast equipment will have to perform, he said.
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http://arstechnica.com/information-...-promises-video-streaming-without-the-router/
It would be cool if there was a software update that could enable this for the Nexus 7! The Netgear box looks small and portable too.
towlie288 said:
Hey,
I've just seen a Miracast set top box from Netgear. This could be the solution to the missing HDMI out of the Nexus 7!
http://www.netgear.de/products/home/hometheater/media-players/PTV3000.aspx
Can anyone remember nVidias demo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso
Let's hope it will work SOON!!!
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I've been watching for (complete) Miracast solutions for a while now. This capability is already starting to play a big role in education on the iPad courtesy of AirPlay mirroring. I have no idea why other vendors are sitting on this.
Anyway, the NTV200S is supposed to be compatible with a firmware update. Some more info here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5957/...otv-pro-ntv200s-widi-and-media-streamer-combo
Another big feature that miracast will add is the ability to display your phone's display on your tablet. This way you could always be on your tablet, but at anytime access all the features of your phone.
terminal addict said:
I've been watching for (complete) Miracast solutions for a while now. This capability is already starting to play a big role in education on the iPad courtesy of AirPlay mirroring. I have no idea why other vendors are sitting on this.
Anyway, the NTV200S is supposed to be compatible with a firmware update. Some more info here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5957/...otv-pro-ntv200s-widi-and-media-streamer-combo
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Thanks for the info, I really hope they bring something working soon !
I'm looking for something to connect to my tv via hdmi which will allow me to play 1080p videos and also play files off an external device - it doesn't necessarily have to be android , but needs to be from a respectable UK retailer and have good reviews. Thanks in advance.
Moved to Off-topic.
Raspberry pi (with raspbmc) is what I use. Cheap and plays 1080p too!
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Stats wise this looks like a bang for the buck. I am considering buying this phone. I wanted to know whether the Chipset this phone has will continue to get support. Also wanted to know whether this phone can play Full HD videos. Other than that can this phone play HD Games? Is there any hope that this phone will get further version upgrades? Is it possible to install JellyBean oficially without having to root?
Thanks a lot!
android07 said:
Stats wise this looks like a bang for the buck. I am considering buying this phone. I wanted to know whether the Chipset this phone has will continue to get support. Also wanted to know whether this phone can play Full HD videos. Other than that can this phone play HD Games? Is there any hope that this phone will get further version upgrades? Is it possible to install JellyBean oficially without having to root?
Thanks a lot!
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There is a rumor that it will get 4.2, and stops there. We have official JB, no need to root. There is some lag on full HD, but do you need full HD on 4" screen really? :angel: I am not game player, about games you will need to wait for somebody else to answer you.
shut_down said:
There is a rumor that it will get 4.2, and stops there. We have official JB, no need to root. There is some lag on full HD, but do you need full HD on 4" screen really? :angel: I am not game player, about games you will need to wait for somebody else to answer you.
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Thanks a lot! I really appriciate your help!
This phone is pretty good, but not good enough if compared with the more recent ones.. I mean if you want more Battery Life, Gaming Performance and more (future) Official updates or Dev support then you can opt for better, more popular Mid-Range phones (according to your budget)...
But still this phone is pretty good, better than Galaxy R and closely related to the all famous S2!
And yes two more things:
- I never tried playing 1080p videos, so I don't know whether it will work or not.. but I have a lot of 720p videos (and movies) - and they all have lag free playback on the stock video player... The only 720p video that lags for me is the default Samsung Sample Video :silly:
- You can play most of the games on this phones, but most high end games or too resource demanding 3D games won't play well on Highest settings...
I was an iPhone user before and this is my first Android phone.. but yeah this is still a pretty good phone, but there are better phones (maybe at same cost)..
Take a look at this thread too.. I gave my review on S3 Mini vs SGSA on that thread...
Sami Kabir said:
This phone is pretty good, but not good enough if compared with the more recent ones.. I mean if you want more Battery Life, Gaming Performance and more (future) Official updates or Dev support then you can opt for better, more popular Mid-Range phones (according to your budget)...
But still this phone is pretty good, better than Galaxy R and closely related to the all famous S2!
And yes two more things:
- I never tried playing 1080p videos, so I don't know whether it will work or not.. but I have a lot of 720p videos (and movies) - and they all have lag free playback on the stock video player... The only 720p video that lags for me is the default Samsung Sample Video :silly:
- You can play most of the games on this phones, but most high end games or too resource demanding 3D games won't play well on Highest settings...
I was an iPhone user before and this is my first Android phone.. but yeah this is still a pretty good phone, but there are better phones (maybe at same cost)..
Take a look at this thread too.. I gave my review on S3 Mini vs SGSA on that thread...
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Some of those points are really foolish sorry...For example,the HSDPA speed is the same and it doesn't have HSPA+...our phone supports microSDHC too(someone tried microSDXC and it worked too...weird)...the original s3 mini hasn't NFC,there is a I8190N version with that.
Also,I don't think it will get Key Lime Pie if the Note,S2 and ours will not get it just because it is newer.Remember the S plus case(gigngerbread as the original S)
Not trying to flame,just correcting you.
In conclusion if solid multitasking isn't your thing,at my opinion S advance makes it because it has better front camera and an ambient light sensor.Also I like the design more...because it's smaller S3 mini doesn't look as good the S3.I saw them both.
You can't play 1080p videos with the stock video player.At heavy games the single core Mali says its word.
If you want a better phone just buy the S2.Better screen,ram and processor.Also the developement support is waay greater because of a biiiig user base.In my country,the difference is just like 25 euros.
I might switch to the S2 too...
ionescugeo9942 said:
Some of those points are really foolish sorry...For example,the HSDPA speed is the same and it doesn't have HSPA+...our phone supports microSDHC too(someone tried microSDXC and it worked too...weird)...the original s3 mini hasn't NFC,there is a I8190N version with that.
Also,I don't think it will get Key Lime Pie if the Note,S2 and ours will not get it just because it is newer.Remember the S plus case(gigngerbread as the original S)
Not trying to flame,just correcting you.
In conclusion if solid multitasking isn't your thing,at my opinion S advance makes it because it has better front camera and an ambient light sensor.Also I like the design more...because it's smaller S3 mini doesn't look as good the S3.I saw them both.
You can't play 1080p videos with the stock video player.At heavy games the single core Mali says its word.
If you want a better phone just buy the S2.Better screen,ram and processor.Also the developement support is waay greater because of a biiiig user base.In my country,the difference is just like 25 euros.
I might switch to the S2 too...
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well yeah of course, you're right... even I hate the shape both S3 and S3 mini has.. in my opinion, S2 and our phone has a better and solid look and feel...
Sami Kabir said:
This phone is pretty good, but not good enough if compared with the more recent ones.. I mean if you want more Battery Life, Gaming Performance and more (future) Official updates or Dev support then you can opt for better, more popular Mid-Range phones (according to your budget)...
But still this phone is pretty good, better than Galaxy R and closely related to the all famous S2!
And yes two more things:
- I never tried playing 1080p videos, so I don't know whether it will work or not.. but I have a lot of 720p videos (and movies) - and they all have lag free playback on the stock video player... The only 720p video that lags for me is the default Samsung Sample Video :silly:
- You can play most of the games on this phones, but most high end games or too resource demanding 3D games won't play well on Highest settings...
I was an iPhone user before and this is my first Android phone.. but yeah this is still a pretty good phone, but there are better phones (maybe at same cost)..
Take a look at this thread too.. I gave my review on S3 Mini vs SGSA on that thread...
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ionescugeo9942 said:
Some of those points are really foolish sorry...For example,the HSDPA speed is the same and it doesn't have HSPA+...our phone supports microSDHC too(someone tried microSDXC and it worked too...weird)...the original s3 mini hasn't NFC,there is a I8190N version with that.
Also,I don't think it will get Key Lime Pie if the Note,S2 and ours will not get it just because it is newer.Remember the S plus case(gigngerbread as the original S)
Not trying to flame,just correcting you.
In conclusion if solid multitasking isn't your thing,at my opinion S advance makes it because it has better front camera and an ambient light sensor.Also I like the design more...because it's smaller S3 mini doesn't look as good the S3.I saw them both.
You can't play 1080p videos with the stock video player.At heavy games the single core Mali says its word.
If you want a better phone just buy the S2.Better screen,ram and processor.Also the developement support is waay greater because of a biiiig user base.In my country,the difference is just like 25 euros.
I might switch to the S2 too...
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Thanks a lot for your input guys! :good: I am considering some other phones like Galaxy Note N-7000 and Sony Xperia L.
The last thing I wanna know is whether the sound output is actually low as some reviewers are saying.
Thanks again!
android07 said:
Thanks a lot for your input guys! :good: I am considering some other phones like Galaxy Note N-7000 and Sony Xperia L.
The last thing I wanna know is whether the sound output is actually low as some reviewers are saying.
Thanks again!
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The sound output is normal.Not too low not too high.
We can't play 1080P Videos on this phone. When I use video players other than stock,it play only audio.
phyowaiummg said:
We can't play 1080P Videos on this phone. When I use video players other than stock,it play only audio.
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Mx player > settings > 2 cores for decoding > laggy 1080p playback
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Wing of fire if u have a chromcast or MHL compatible give the game a shot with gear control it pretty neat. The gear watch is the control stick and shoot button
Chromcast gives a little lag. Mhl cast gives a better experience.
trapdogg said:
Wing of fire if u have a chromcast or MHL compatible give the game a shot with gear control it pretty neat. The gear watch is the control stick and shoot button
Chromcast gives a little lag. Mhl cast gives a better experience.
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any link for the app?
looking for this on the app store but cant find one... need help