Downgrade back to marshmallow - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So can't check "allow OEM quick" on N.
Already opted out of developer preview thru the site, and 4 days later, still no ota back to MM. Suggestions?
I thought to just fastboot twrp and try to flash a stock rom to allow unlock then start from the beginning but wanted opinions first.
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sookieball said:
So can't check "allow OEM quick" on N.
Already opted out of developer preview thru the site, and 4 days later, still no it's back to MM. Suggestions?
I thought to just fastboot twrp and try to flash a stock rom to allow unlock then start from the beginning but wanted opinions first.
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well, to flash stock, you dont use twrp, you use fastboot while youre in the bootloader. and in N, allow oem unlock is automatically enabled.

It isn't tho
It i tried OEM unlock and it didn't work. :-/
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sookieball said:
It isn't tho
It i tried OEM unlock and it didn't work. :-/
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how? did you do fastboot oem unlock?

Maybe you've already tried this, and I don't know if it will work, but have you tried re-enrolling and unenrolling in the hope that it will jog the revert mechanism into life?

I have tried enrolling and unenrolling a few times....
No dice.
Sims,
In fastboot... fastboot OEM unlock. Then error.
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sookieball said:
I have tried enrolling and unenrolling a few times....
No dice.
Sims,
In fastboot... fastboot OEM unlock. Then error.
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you pribably cant oem unlock while on N then. that probably why they made it unavailable. im not on N now, so cant test.

What about trying a sideload of the full OTA? I thought (I might be wrong) that it's independent of a locked bootloader.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/ota#instructions
It's worth a shot, especially as it doesn't overwrite your data.

On a related note, I'm on preview 3 - battery drain when idle is higher than what it was on stable M, so thinking about reverting back to M.
1. To avoid a factory wipe, can I just flash the img files from the stable M (skipping userdata) on top of the preview 3?
2. If so, to avoid getting the N preview update notification, I guess I will need to un-enroll from the beta program. Will that cause an OTA to be sent back to my phone (causing factory wipe as described on the beta page)? Or does it recognize that I'm already on 'M' and skip the OTA?
3. Before I do this, is it possible to flash the radio only from the latest "M" image on the "N" preview? (could that help with the drain when idle?)

Did you not like my previous answer...?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66961421&postcount=104

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Did you not like my previous answer...?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66961421&postcount=104
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LOL! Yes, I did! And thank you for that as well - the part that I didn't understand (and unless I missed it in your response, I don't think we talked about in that post) was - since I'd still be enrolled in the preview/beta program, how do I get out of the program, without getting factory reset.
(I do have a nandroid backup as a last ditch option - trying to do this the 'clean' way first)
The preview is working well for me as well - skype is the only app giving me grief, but I can live with that. The battery drain on idle seems to be significantly higher than what I encountered with "M" stable. With barely any usage this morning (screen on for 11 minutes), my battery is at 77% (full charge and off the charger at 10 pm last night). Cell Standby is the the highest drain (6%). Phone idle and Android system tied for 2nd place at 3%.
With the latest M build, I'd be at over 90% battery remaining (with similar usage).

You're right on all counts...
I think the answer to your wipe question is that you'd have to agree to do it - if you unenrol and have already reverted manually to M, the downgrade OTA may be downloaded (though from my experience, as I said, I think the developers are smart enough to recognise that it's a waste of time and even that won't happen) but you would still have to push the button to accept it. They won't unceremoniously dump it on you without your permission.
And the battery drain... I was wondering if it was my imagination, or maybe just that my phone is a year old (I got a replacement last May) and the battery's a bit tired, but I've noticed that the percentage drops almost before my eyes. I have Battery Bot Pro showing my percentage figure on my status bar, and it seems to me that every time I unlock the phone another one or more percentage points have gone. It went from 97% this morning to 77% in a couple of hours, and I recharged it before I went out to work - it's now already down to 75% and falling. Like you, I'd expect it to be a clear 10% or more better than this over this period.
Looks like Google have a bit more work to do on their power management...
Edit: And in the 5 minutes since I wrote this, with the phone sitting beside me, screen off, nothing running, it's already down to 74%. Not at all impressive. Despite being relatively happy with it, I may have to renege on my previous comment that I can't see myself reverting to M.
And before you ask, I'll be reverting using my TWRP backup of M which I took immediately before I installed N...

Thank you
I'll wait for the June security update (factory image) and install that directly (skipping userdata). If that fails, I'll revert to the TWRP backup. (restoring TWRP on my old N5 has given me grief in the past, so going to avoid that if possible)
Edit: maybe I'll try flashing the radio from the May image onto "N" and see if that helps. The battery drain appears to be radio related.

Done. No problem at all. TWRP took about 12 minutes to restore 7GB of data, then a rather nerve-racking 5 minutes with the Google quad-icon swapping bits, and I'm back to MOB30I.
Seven updates waiting; BBC Radio, Skype, Google Drive, Sygic, all the broken apps working again, still have root.
Welcome back, old M world...
And if you're thinking of restoring M early next month, I'd give the OTA version a try. Just out of curiosity I sideloaded the MOB30H OTA on my Nexus 5 a few days ago, and it worked flawlessly without wiping any data. That's what I'll be doing on my N6 in June.
I've also just unenrolled from the Beta program, and checked for a system update. Exactly as I thought, "Your system is up to date" on MOB30I. I know that the OTAs have been slow for some people, but I don't expect to see the revert OTA - I'll post in this thread if I ever do.

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And if you're thinking of restoring M early next month, I'd give the OTA version a try. Just out of curiosity I sideloaded the MOB30H OTA on my Nexus 5 a few days ago, and it worked flawlessly without wiping any data. That's what I'll be doing on my N6 in June.
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Would the fact that I'm rooted cause any issues with sideloading the OTA? (I realize the new OTA is essentially a full image, so it should just overwrite the system, and I'd have to reroot after that)

No problems at all, no. My N5 was rooted & encrypted, and the OTA slid in easily. As I said in another thread, it boots into TWRP but the OTA is designed to handle that. I installed TWRP again anyway, probably pointlessly but just to be on the safe side, and then used it to install SuperSU 2.74.
Easy as pie...

I unenrolled, got a prompt for system "update" back to MM, it downloaded, and now I am going on 30 minutes on the install part....been stuck on the reboot screen with 4 colorful circles....
How long does it take to re-install MM? TIA
EDIT: Decided to hold down power button for about 5 seconds and it rebooted to setup screen

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And the battery drain... I was wondering if it was my imagination, or maybe just that my phone is a year old (I got a replacement last May) and the battery's a bit tired, but I've noticed that the percentage drops almost before my eyes. I have Battery Bot Pro showing my percentage figure on my status bar, and it seems to me that every time I unlock the phone another one or more percentage points have gone. It went from 97% this morning to 77% in a couple of hours, and I recharged it before I went out to work - it's now already down to 75% and falling. Like you, I'd expect it to be a clear 10% or more better than this over this period.
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I ended up flashing the radio (only) from MOB30I on to the N preview, and so far, the battery life on idle is back to how it was on M. I think I have a reason to stick on to the N preview a bit longer now
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How long does it take to re-install MM? TIA
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Looks like you got it sorted out, but just for future reference, the reason it took long is because it essentially factory reset your phone - a factory reset with full wipe on the encrypted N6 cane take 20-30 minutes.

I'm impatient, me, so by the time I read this I was already back on MOB30I, but in any case I'm happier to have all working apps without the rash of library errors and force-closures. Interesting thread...
But we never heard back from sookieball after I suggested a sideload: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67013821&postcount=8

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But we never heard back from sookieball after I suggested a sideload: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67013821&postcount=8
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I ended up reverting back to the "M" stable image yesterday (was waiting for the June image to be available). No issues with the "N" to report, except one custom app that I use was giving me some issues.
Anyway, thought I'd share my "downgrade" story
If you do the downgrade the right way (un-enroll from the Beta program), and get the OTA back to the latest "M", it will likely go well - because it performs a factory reset on your phone.
I however, didn't wait to set my phone up from scratch (lazy), so I flashed the factory image for the latest "M" (and skipped userdata.img). Bad idea. Flash went thru' successfully, but I ended up with pretty much an unusable phone because two system processes kept crashing in a loop after booting up. I then tried ADB sideload for the new OTA image file - same results. Wiped cache partition - no difference.
I then remembered that some apps (like Google Maps) had different versions for "N", and realized that the issue must be because of apps like that not being compatible with "M". Thankfully, I had a nandroid backup of the "M" (May security release) from before I installed "N", and I installed that - and then, updated to the June security release of "M".
Whew!
So, in summary, If you are rooted, take a nandroid backup in TWRP before you install "N" preview. If not, plan to factory reset your device after going back (or while going back) to "M" - no shortcuts.

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Dead Turbo?

So I was running CF 1.3 base for quite a while with no issues. Two days ago my phone shut down on me and would not boot. I wipe everything multiple times. I wiped cache. I did a factory reset, nothing... I wiped again. Nothing.
It gets past the Motorola logo and then just sits at the boot screen. A couple of times it would say updating android, it would finish, but then it would go right back to the boot screen. After about 8 hours it finally booted and I used it all day yesterday. This morning my issue is back. I've flashed different images to see if it has something to do with 1.3. It's all the same. I think I might try to go back to kit kat. It seems to be a software problem, but I am starting to think that something most be wrong with my hardware.
I found this thread: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/b0021413e7
I think my phone is shot... Any ideas?
When I had my Razr Maxx I had an issue that was similar and nothing I tried would fix it. Factory reset cache wipe flashing different roms nothing. Finally I decided to factory restore it with RSD Lite and after that the problem went away and I was able to do everything again like normal. I don't know why a factory reset wouldn't fix it and that did but it did.
Thanks. That is my next step. Do you know where I can find the RSD image?
Is this what I need? http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...quark-stock-firmware-moto-maxx-droid-t3063470
Do I need to worry about flashing radios and stuff back to 4.4.4?
Seems to be. Honestly I've used it on many Motorolas in the past but I haven't read much about using RSDlite on the turbo. I would just do some googling around I'm sure you'll find it
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So I was running CF 1.3 base for quite a while with no issues. Two days ago my phone shut down on me and would not boot. I wipe everything multiple times. I wiped cache. I did a factory reset, nothing... I wiped again. Nothing.
It gets past the Motorola logo and then just sits at the boot screen. A couple of times it would say updating android, it would finish, but then it would go right back to the boot screen. After about 8 hours it finally booted and I used it all day yesterday. This morning my issue is back. I've flashed different images to see if it has something to do with 1.3. It's all the same. I think I might try to go back to kit kat. It seems to be a software problem, but I am starting to think that something most be wrong with my hardware.
I found this thread: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/b0021413e7
I think my phone is shot... Any ideas?
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This just happened to me yesterday. Long story short, I have a strong suspicion that something about the recent Moto Actions update is breaking our phones for reasons that I describe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/complicated-problem-restore-doesnt-help-t3184251. I managed to fix it, but I re-broke it because I'm an idiot and the method I used before isn't working. If you get it fixed and get your 1.3 CF image back up and running, I would strongly recommend against allowing the Moto Actions update. I have a feeling that we're going to be hearing more about this soon from other people.
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This just happened to me yesterday. Long story short, I have a strong suspicion that something about the recent Moto Actions update is breaking our phones for reasons that I describe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/complicated-problem-restore-doesnt-help-t3184251. I managed to fix it, but I re-broke it because I'm an idiot and the method I used before isn't working. If you get it fixed and get your 1.3 CF image back up and running, I would strongly recommend against allowing the Moto Actions update. I have a feeling that we're going to be hearing more about this soon from other people.
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That makes sense, after I finally got mine going, I updated Moto Actions and all the other apps it crashed again in about 12 hours. If I can finally get it to boot again, I think I am going to test your theory. If you figure out how to get it booted again, please share!
Edit, which rootjunky image did you flash? SU2-12?
my2cents said:
That makes sense. Like an idiot, after I finally got mine going, I updated Moto Actions and it crashed again. If I can finally get it to boot again, I think I am going to test your theory. If you figure out how to get it booted again, please share!
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I did get it booted again. I flashed the kitkat update (not the stock, stock update 1, which is what you should be on if you're using mofo) file on the firmware thread that was posted here using the version of RSDlite that was posted there. The key is just to wait a really, really long time. Even if the screen goes black, it could potentially still be booting, especially if the back of the phone gets warm. I left it plugged in, let it get to the boot animation and left the house for several hours, and when I got back it appeared to be functional, but things were slow and choppy at times and my home button didn't work. The settings menu from the pull down menu didn't work either. I had to access settings from the app drawer. I tried a factory reset from the settings menu, and that just re-broke everything. So now I'm back at square one. I re-flashed the same image using RSDlite again, and now I've waited about 10 minutes and I'm still looking at the boot screen, which at this point is normal since the problem occurred.
I got a hold of an old copy of the Motorola Sensor Services apk. As far as I can tell, this is the apk that is replaced by Moto Actions, which according to Google Play is only compatible with 5.0 and above. My plan for tonight is to wait until the thing decides to boot, attempt to start the stock Sensor Services app and get it to do the sensor firmware uninstall that I mentioned in my other post. If that doesn't work, I'm going to try to install the apk that I found and see if I have any more luck with that. I'll report back here when I get a chance to do that. Let me know if you figure out a solution.
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my2cents said:
That makes sense, after I finally got mine going, I updated Moto Actions and all the other apps it crashed again in about 12 hours. If I can finally get it to boot again, I think I am going to test your theory. If you figure out how to get it booted again, please share!
Edit, which rootjunky image did you flash? SU2-12?
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Yeah, I used SU2-12.
I followed the procedure outlined here to go back to stock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6avEPGWB8E0 I used the SU2-12 file, but I lost everything... Thanks for the help. I hope there is a fix for this soon! I'll test your idea about MOTO Actions and report.
Edit: Well, I thought my phone was booting when I wrote the above, but it has been 30 minutes and it has not booted...
So, I can get it to boot - although it is not easy and it takes me like 30 minutes and I haven't found a full proof method yet, but after it goes to sleep I have to start the process all over. It has been a frustrating 3 days.
TheSt33v said:
This just happened to me yesterday. Long story short, I have a strong suspicion that something about the recent Moto Actions update is breaking our phones for reasons that I describe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/complicated-problem-restore-doesnt-help-t3184251. I managed to fix it, but I re-broke it because I'm an idiot and the method I used before isn't working. If you get it fixed and get your 1.3 CF image back up and running, I would strongly recommend against allowing the Moto Actions update. I have a feeling that we're going to be hearing more about this soon from other people.
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I think you are onto something. I'm currently on 4.4.4 and it is bone stock. When I go into the Play Store it shows that I have Moto Actions installed, but when I click on the app it says that it is not compatible with my device. I've tried wiping the data from the app, force closing it, and clearing the cache. None of that has prompted me to uninstall the sensors. By the way, I found the Moto sensors app and tried doing the same thing, no luck.
So, I think I have the 5.1 Moto Actions installed still, which is causing the 4.4.4 image to freak out. I've thought about trying to go official 5.1 and see if that fixes it, but since I have a replacement on the way, think I might just leave it be - unless someone (like you) figures this thing out.
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I think you are onto something. I'm currently on 4.4.4 and it is bone stock. When I go into the Play Store it shows that I have Moto Actions installed, but when I click on the app it says that it is not compatible with my device. I've tried wiping the data from the app, force closing it, and clearing the cache. None of that has prompted me to uninstall the sensors. By the way, I found the Moto sensors app and tried doing the same thing, no luck.
So, I think I have the 5.1 Moto Actions installed still, which is causing the 4.4.4 image to freak out. I've thought about trying to go official 5.1 and see if that fixes it, but since I have a replacement on the way, think I might just leave it be - unless someone (like you) figures this thing out.
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I ended up getting a replacement from Motorola too. If it has 5.1 on it, I'll sell it and get one with 4.4.4. Thanks a lot for the tip, by the way. I might still work on it just as a hobby, but I'm out of ideas. Of all the many, many devices I've tinkered with, this is the first one that I ever permanently messed up, so I'd like to fix it as a matter of pride, but I now only have 48 hours to do so. After looking at logcats, the partition table of the phone and the androidmanifest.xml of the motorola sensor services apk, I'm pretty much certain that this app writes those sensor drivers to a partition other than the ones that get flashed when we up/downgrade (ie system, boot, recovery, etc.), which is why these processes don't fix the problem. Theoretically, if I knew which partition that was, I could find someone with a working Turbo who could dump that image, and if I get lucky and it's a partition that isn't sig checked by the bootloader (like the radios, for example), I could flash that and be good to go. I have no idea how to figure out which partition that would be, though. The obvious choice was the "firmware" partition, but that partition has a lot of drivers that seem to relate to lots of different important things, so messing with that seems scary. I also don't know anyone who is knowledgeable enough to generate that image (myself included), so it's a moot point.
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I ended up getting a replacement from Motorola too. If it has 5.1 on it, I'll sell it and get one with 4.4.4. Thanks a lot for the tip, by the way. I might still work on it just as a hobby, but I'm out of ideas. Of all the many, many devices I've tinkered with, this is the first one that I ever permanently messed up, so I'd like to fix it as a matter of pride, but I now only have 48 hours to do so. After looking at logcats, the partition table of the phone and the androidmanifest.xml of the motorola sensor services apk, I'm pretty much certain that this app writes those sensor drivers to a partition other than the ones that get flashed when we up/downgrade (ie system, boot, recovery, etc.), which is why these processes don't fix the problem. Theoretically, if I knew which partition that was, I could find someone with a working Turbo who could dump that image, and if I get lucky and it's a partition that isn't sig checked by the bootloader (like the radios, for example), I could flash that and be good to go. I have no idea how to figure out which partition that would be, though. The obvious choice was the "firmware" partition, but that partition has a lot of drivers that seem to relate to lots of different important things, so messing with that seems scary. I also don't know anyone who is knowledgeable enough to generate that image (myself included), so it's a moot point.
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My question is why hasn't anyone else's device gotten borked since the update? I've had it since the update was distributed with no issues and use Moto Actions continuously. Seems like if it really is a combination of writing drivers to a partition that isn't compatible it would be a universal issue. If only 2 people who have a mofo'd 5.1 IMG (out of probably hundreds) experienced issues my bet is on some weird glitch that occured when you initially flashed the updated firmware to get 5.1 working on the mofo'd device, rather than some general driver incompatibility.
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My question is why hasn't anyone else's device gotten borked since the update? I've had it since the update was distributed with no issues and use Moto Actions continuously. Seems like if it really is a combination of writing drivers to a partition that isn't compatible it would be a universal issue. If only 2 people who have a mofo'd 5.1 IMG (out of probably hundreds) experienced issues my bet is on some weird glitch that occured when you initially flashed the updated firmware to get 5.1 working on the mofo'd device, rather than some general driver incompatibility.
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I agree. Either it was a corrupt driver installation that worked just well enough for the app not to realize it, or the firmware update happens silently only when requested (similar to Google play services), and we're all one chop chop flashlight away from a phone apocalypse. Hopefully it's the former.
So, I went ahead and updated my device to official 5.1 and the problem is still there. The moto actions app that is installed still says that it is not compatible with my phone. I have cant figure out how to clear it or delete it or anything. And when I think I have it, I let the phone sleep and I can't bring it back to life again without waiting for a 15 min+ boot. Oh well, at least the bootloader says "official" now rather than "modified." So, Motorola should not complain about it. Thanks for trying to figure it out @TheSt33v
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So, I went ahead and updated my device to official 5.1 and the problem is still there. The moto actions app that is installed still says that it is not compatible with my phone. I have cant figure out how to clear it or delete it or anything. And when I think I have it, I let the phone sleep and I can't bring it back to life again without waiting for a 15 min+ boot. Oh well, at least the bootloader says "official" now rather than "modified." So, Motorola should not complain about it. Thanks for trying to figure it out @TheSt33v
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Good to know. I picked the $25 option specifically because the free one requires an inspection, but I'll probably update it anyway. I'm not surprised that it didn't solve the problem though. When we flash those upgrade/downgrade images, we're basically just doing manually what RSD lite/Verizon upgrade agent does automatically.
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TheSt33v said:
This just happened to me yesterday. Long story short, I have a strong suspicion that something about the recent Moto Actions update is breaking our phones for reasons that I describe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/complicated-problem-restore-doesnt-help-t3184251. I managed to fix it, but I re-broke it because I'm an idiot and the method I used before isn't working. If you get it fixed and get your 1.3 CF image back up and running, I would strongly recommend against allowing the Moto Actions update. I have a feeling that we're going to be hearing more about this soon from other people.[/QUO​TE]
you called it! Just spent 2 hours reflashing 1.3 first repeated V4A, then Base. flashing sick Android upon Recovery attempt, FAIL. reflashed radios and such and with different "vol& pwr" sequence was able to get in to wipe cache. Not hat it would help me but i viewed chche Logs and im wondering if, to the right person, it would help to have copies of them?? It's a bunch of pages tho and and not sure if it would help.
My plan it to, in Recovery, Factory wipe, then reboot to Bootloader and attempt to flash base. W/ all sys.img's, then wipe caches again. ihave read the whole thread early yesterday morning but i fell asleep prob 20 times during. it was like 3 ishi think SO, i'll now go re read probably to find that you've already ruled out "my plan"
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TheSt33v said:
This just happened to me yesterday. Long story short, I have a strong suspicion that something about the recent Moto Actions update is breaking our phones for reasons that I describe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo/help/complicated-problem-restore-doesnt-help-t3184251. I managed to fix it, but I re-broke it because I'm an idiot and the method I used before isn't working. If you get it fixed and get your 1.3 CF image back up and running, I would strongly recommend against allowing the Moto Actions update. I have a feeling that we're going to be hearing more about this soon from other people.[/QUO​TE]
you called it! Just spent 2 hours reflashing 1.3 first repeated V4A, then Base. flashing sick Android upon Recovery attempt, FAIL. reflashed radios and such and with different "vol& pwr" sequence was able to get in to wipe cache. Not hat it would help me but i viewed chche Logs and im wondering if, to the right person, it would help to have copies of them?? It's a bunch of pages tho and and not sure if it would help.
My plan it to, in Recovery, Factory wipe, then reboot to Bootloader and attempt to flash base. W/ all sys.img's, then wipe caches again. ihave read the whole thread early yesterday morning but i fell asleep prob 20 times during. it was like 3 ishi think SO, i'll now go re read probably to find that you've already ruled out "my plan"
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Damn. I was hoping I was wrong. Yeah, I did what you suggested many, many times. If you end up reflashing 4.4.4 and you see the message to uninstall the sensor firmware, do it and FLASH NOTHING ELSE until a solution is found. If not, it's really easy to get a new one from Motorola.
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TheSt33v said:
ctopher4 said:
Damn. I was hoping I was wrong. Yeah, I did what you suggested many, many times. If you end up reflashing 4.4.4 and you see the message to uninstall the sensor firmware, do it and FLASH NOTHING ELSE until a solution is found. If not, it's really easy to get a new one from Motorola.
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O Jeez, xda gave me a " token timed out message" but only after I hit post reply and, it was a novel! I have to get at least 2.5 hours sleep tonight because that been normal lately. Besides setting up Moto functionality, I'm golden and I do have their updates blocked best I can anyway. Hope all is working.
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O Jeez, xda gave me a " token timed out message" but only after I hit post reply and, it was a novel! I have to get at least 2.5 hours sleep tonight because that been normal lately. Besides setting up Moto functionality, I'm golden and I do have their updates blocked best I can anyway. Hope all is working.
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Awesome! Well I managed to fix it too, Moto functionality included!!!! I'll explain on my other thread.
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What was the solution that found? I'm going through the same problem.

Why is my Nexus 6 not receiving updates?

I've just taken my phone out of box, this is October 2015, and the moment I opened the phone first it started overheating and second I checked for updates and it says "software upto date".
The software is stuck at 5.0 and I don't know why I'm not receiving a single update when it's the time people are getting Android M. I've a Nexus 5 too and it's up to date to Marshmallow while this one is still stuck at 5.0 Lollipop.
I guess this has got to do something with the OTA feature and I want to fix this instead of flashing OS manually. So please tell me what to do now.
Till now after many Google searches I did twice reset of my phone and cleared data cache everything of Google Services Framework, but still nothing is helping.
Just 1 day old nonrooted nothing ever did, everything's from my side fine, just not understanding what to do.
Please please help me soon, I'm regretting buying nexus 6 now!
Aniket Sarkar said:
I've just taken my phone out of box, this is October 2015, and the moment I opened the phone first it started overheating and second I checked for updates and it says "software upto date".
The software is stuck at 5.0 and I don't know why I'm not receiving a single update when it's the time people are getting Android M. I've a Nexus 5 too and it's up to date to Marshmallow while this one is still stuck at 5.0 Lollipop.
I guess this has got to do something with the OTA feature and I want to fix this instead of flashing OS manually. So please tell me what to do now.
Till now after many Google searches I did twice reset of my phone and cleared data cache everything of Google Services Framework, but still nothing is helping.
Just 1 day old nonrooted nothing ever did, everything's from my side fine, just not understanding what to do.
Please please help me soon, I'm regretting buying nexus 6 now!
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seriously?? your regretting it ??
you need patience...
patience....
patience....
I think I've mentioned that I'm not even getting 5.1, okay not even 5.0.1
Can someone please understand the level of problem I'm facing?
I've already mentioned while others are at 6.0, I'm not going anywhere ahead of 5.0
Please help!
Where did you buy your phone from? Are you sure it is not running a custom ROM? Is the bootloader locked?
Keep the phone connected to the internet (WiFi or cellular data), and sign into your Google Account, and wait another day. It may take a day or two to get update notification.
Edit - depending on your build#, you can download the OTA files and sideload them using ADB (don't need to unlock bootloader if that is a concern), or the faster option would be to just unlock the bootloader, and flash the latest factory image.
im on my 3rd day on my nexus.. but im not losing hope.. im still waiting for the ota.. its on 5.1 lmy47d...
So here is something funny. I was waiting and waiting for 6.0 on my nexus 6 for days. Never came. I have friends that have the same phone on the same carrier and they had already received their updates. So frustration and being impatient had gotten the best of me and I decided i was going to side load the update. In order to do so you need to unlock the boot loader which will wipe all of your data, EVERYTHING. When the phone rebooted completely wiped i went through the initial set up and it wasn't 5 min later the 6.0 update came rolling in like no big deal. WTF. I don't know why it wouldn't find it on its own but i wouldn't. Needless to day that is what I did and ended up getting it in a round about way. Maybe give that a try if you get to impatient and at that point if it doesn't show up just side load it. Hope this helps
Same, stuck on 5.1 LMY47D
google gives us factory images for a reason. if you arent patient enough to wait for an ota, just flash a factory image yourself, instead of starting threads about how you arent getting an ota. whats the point of a thread about you not getting an ota?
snoprosledneck88 said:
....I decided i was going to side load the update. In order to do so you need to unlock the boot loader which will wipe all of your data, EVERYTHING.
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Sideloading the OTA using "ADB sideload" doesn't require you to unlock the bootloader.
Unlocking the bootloader is needed if you choose to flash the factory image file instead of the OTA file
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Sideloading the OTA using "ADB sideload" doesn't require you to unlock the bootloader.
Unlocking the bootloader is needed if you choose to flash the factory image file instead of the OTA file
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Your right, I'm sorry. That's what I meant to say.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
I got mine today and its on android 5 Doesn't want to update either, keeps saying its up to date. Haven't done anything yet with the phone. Looking now how ADB Sideload works.
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Where did you buy your phone from? Are you sure it is not running a custom ROM? Is the bootloader locked?
Keep the phone connected to the internet (WiFi or cellular data), and sign into your Google Account, and wait another day. It may take a day or two to get update notification.
Edit - depending on your build#, you can download the OTA files and sideload them using ADB (don't need to unlock bootloader if that is a concern), or the faster option would be to just unlock the bootloader, and flash the latest factory image.
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I've bought it from an online retailer Flipkart in India.
I'm sure there's no changes made in phone and it's original and is as a new nexus 6 should be. Just this software update is causing me problems
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So here is something funny. I was waiting and waiting for 6.0 on my nexus 6 for days. Never came. I have friends that have the same phone on the same carrier and they had already received their updates. So frustration and being impatient had gotten the best of me and I decided i was going to side load the update. In order to do so you need to unlock the boot loader which will wipe all of your data, EVERYTHING. When the phone rebooted completely wiped i went through the initial set up and it wasn't 5 min later the 6.0 update came rolling in like no big deal. WTF. I don't know why it wouldn't find it on its own but i wouldn't. Needless to day that is what I did and ended up getting it in a round about way. Maybe give that a try if you get to impatient and at that point if it doesn't show up just side load it. Hope this helps
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Well I'm damn impatient, if I'd 5.1.1 and waited for 6.0 I'd have definitely had some patience, but waiting from 5.0 doesn't make sense.
Anyways to the point, after listening to your story, I tried same thing, clearing cache and reset from recovery mode, but still it didn't help
Hope there's some other resolution to this now.
I suspect it was your post that I responded to, at another forum - but you have two options really
1. Unlock bootloader (wipes data), and flash latest image
2. ADB Sideload OTAs one after the other in the right sequence (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493 for OTA URLs) - check your current build and choose a path to get to the build you want
I am having the same problem.
I am having the same problem. Have you tried resetting the phone and starting it without the sim?

Nexus 6 shows 4,000% battery life after root?

I got my Nexus 6P for Christmas, and I decided to root my Motorola Nexus 6 from last year. I've been waiting to do this for a few months, and was excited to finally enable several of the options I couldn't otherwise enable (such as double tap to wake and auto rotate on the lock screen and Google Now launcher). About an hour ago I got around to rooting and done so with little issues. It's been a little under an hour since I rooted, and I just now noticed that the battery life is being displayed as having over 4,000% charge. I rooted following the steps in a YouTube video by DroidModderX and the device is running perfectly fine. The device hasn't died yet, and I'll be interested to see when it will die. The battery life seems to fluctuate between 4,001% and 4,204% (Those two figures being the highest and lowest figures respectively). Rebooting does not fix this error.
I know it's not a massive problem, but I'd like to know what's causing this issue and how to resolve it. I haven't flashed any custom OS's on my phone, I'm still running stock Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow with the latest December security patches. The device is carrier unlocked also. How can I fix this?
Thanks,
Eamonn.
sonic2kk said:
It's been a little under an hour since I rooted, and I just now noticed that the battery life is being displayed as having over 4,000% charge. being the highest and lowest figures respectively). Rebooting does not fix this error.
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You need to use updated root files. The battery issue arises when you're on 6.0.1 but aren't using the right file version. Easily fixed not to worry, just re-root with updated files and it will resolve with no lasting harm.
sansnil said:
You need to use updated root files. The battery issue arises when you're on 6.0.1 but aren't using the right file version. Easily fixed not to worry, just re-root with updated files and it will resolve with no lasting harm.
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Ah, thank goodness. I'll re-root tomorrow and post back if I have any problems. Thanks!
Thanks, that fixed the issue. I re-rooted and everything is working fine. I flashed the ElementalX kernel. However on boot I now get a warning with a red triangle saying "Your device is corrupt. It cannot be trusted and may not work properly". This warning goes away, and the phone proceeds to boot up successfully. Everything on the device works perfectly fine with no issues. I am successfully rooted running Android Marshmallow 6.0.1, but this screen scares me somewhat. I rooted my Galaxy SII and I have a yellow triangle on boot but only on the Samsung splash screen. Is this something new in Android M or something unique to Nexus devices? I researched this a bit and found one post on Reddit that said this happened in the M previews, and that it was nothing to be concerned about. Is there a way to remove this screen, or is it just like the yellow triangle on the SII? Should I even be concerned with this, or is it something to just dismiss? Is my device at risk any more than normal when rooting, and have I done something wrong? I'm a bit of a newbie at the rooting stuff, but I intend to use my Nexus 6 and SII to learn more about it (and my 6P way into the future, once I get a new phone).
Thanks in advance.
Why did you need root for the Google now launcher?
mikeprius said:
Why did you need root for the Google now launcher?
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What do you mean? I can run the Google Now launcher perfectly fine. Root works fine as well. The problem isn't with the Google Now launcher but with the warning on boot. I didn't need to root, I chose to. Am I misunderstanding?
Your original post made it seem like you need root for double tap to wake and Google now launcher.
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Thanks, that fixed the issue. I re-rooted and everything is working fine. I flashed the ElementalX kernel. However on boot I now get a warning with a red triangle saying "Your device is corrupt. It cannot be trusted and may not work properly". This warning goes away, and the phone proceeds to boot up successfully. Everything on the device works perfectly fine with no issues. I am successfully rooted running Android Marshmallow 6.0.1, but this screen scares me somewhat. I rooted my Galaxy SII and I have a yellow triangle on boot but only on the Samsung splash screen. Is this something new in Android M or something unique to Nexus devices? I researched this a bit and found one post on Reddit that said this happened in the M previews, and that it was nothing to be concerned about. Is there a way to remove this screen, or is it just like the yellow triangle on the SII? Should I even be concerned with this, or is it something to just dismiss? Is my device at risk any more than normal when rooting, and have I done something wrong? I'm a bit of a newbie at the rooting stuff, but I intend to use my Nexus 6 and SII to learn more about it (and my 6P way into the future, once I get a new phone).
Thanks in advance.
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https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24269982087021512 gives you 6.0.1 bootstack for Nexus 6 (shamu). Flash this in TWRP. This should fix your corrupted boot splash screen. It's new in Android M when you've installed custom kernel and/or roms. It does not hurt anything except Android Pay is unlikely to work once rooted.
EDIT: I forgot to included mmb29k, non-encrypt boot.img made by GerardF: https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24340319927534323 (flash this also after you flash the bootstack).
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(removed url) gives you 6.0.1 bootstack for Nexus 6 (shamu). Flash this in TWRP. This should fix your corrupted boot splash screen. It's new in Android M when you've installed custom kernel and/or roms. It does not hurt anything except Android Pay is unlikely to work once rooted.
EDIT: I forgot to included mmb29k, non-encrypt boot.img made by GerardF: (removed url) (flash this also after you flash the bootstack).
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Worked perfect. That got rid of the corrupt message. One last question: (This is the last one, I swear! ) Are you saying that Android Pay won't work at all after rooting or that it wouldn't have worked if that screen had have appeared on boot? I hope to use the service if and when it comes to the UK.
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Your original post made it seem like you need root for double tap to wake and Google now launcher.
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Ah, sorry for the confusion my friend ?
I would have kept it at 4,000% - that's like 2 weeks of battery life with no charge...
orangekid said:
I would have kept it at 4,000% - that's like 2 weeks of battery life with no charge...
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Haha if it wasn't a display error I might have (Though it would have only been like 3 days on the Nexus 6 )
Stupid question but where do I get updated files. I followed the method on root junky for the Nexus 6
Dalek Caan said:
Stupid question but where do I get updated files. I followed the method on root junky for the Nexus 6
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Sorry, I don't remember where I got the updated files now. I do remember sticking to looking on XDA and not just searching randomly online, maybe you could try searching the forums?
is it possible to root with chainfire root files. I did a clean install of the January security update, then flashed the latest boot.img from chainfire then flashed SuperSU 2.66.zip through TWRP, but im still getting this. I received this same issue with the last patch. Im at the point where it isnt worth rooting. Any help would be appreciated.

face unlocked stopped working?

So last night my face unlocked just stopped working. I deleted my face data and added it again and now it still doesn't work. It just says can't verify face. Anyone else experience this?
sruel3216 said:
So last night my face unlocked just stopped working. I deleted my face data and added it again and now it still doesn't work. It just says can't verify face. Anyone else experience this?
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Not just spontaneously as you described. It's happened to many ppl but usually immediately after they updated, or tried a custom kernel. If you are unlocked try re-flashing the last image (or probably just boot.img). If not, you could try flashing the latest OTA image via recovery.
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Not just spontaneously as you described. It's happened to many ppl but usually immediately after they updated, or tried a custom kernel. If you are unlocked try re-flashing the last image (or probably just boot.img). If not, you could try flashing the latest OTA image via recovery.
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Im locked. Never unlocked or rooted. It hasn't worked ever after it stopped last night. Multiple face deletes and re-adds. Also haven't updated since last ota 3 weeks ago.
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Im locked. Never unlocked or rooted. It hasn't worked ever after it stopped last night. Multiple face deletes and re-adds. Also haven't updated since last ota 3 weeks ago.
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...If not, you could try flashing the latest OTA image via recovery. You can find the OTA's and instructions on how to perform a "rescue OTA" on Google's Dev Site. I know it sucks not having FR because it happened to me playing around with a kernel that wasn't updated for December. I got FR back by flashing a different, updated kernel. Let us know what you decide to do and how it turns out. No telling when you will get the next OTA!
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...If not, you could try flashing the latest OTA image via recovery. You can find the OTA's and instructions on how to perform a "rescue OTA" on Google's Dev Site. I know it sucks not having FR because it happened to me playing around with a kernel that wasn't updated for December. I got FR back by flashing a different, updated kernel. Let us know what you decide to do and how it turns out. No telling when you will get the next OTA!
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Ok il try that thanks!
It's just annoyed cuz my phone has been the same for weeks and never rooted. It began with a notification saying I needed to re-registered my face or it might now work. So I deleted and added and then it's never worked since
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...If not, you could try flashing the latest OTA image via recovery. You can find the OTA's and instructions on how to perform a "rescue OTA" on Google's Dev Site. I know it sucks not having FR because it happened to me playing around with a kernel that wasn't updated for December. I got FR back by flashing a different, updated kernel. Let us know what you decide to do and how it turns out. No telling when you will get the next OTA!
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I dont understand why i am getting this error:
PS C:\adb> adb sideload flame-ota-qq1b.191205.012.a1-59de0d4d
adb: failed to stat file flame-ota-qq1b.191205.012.a1-59de0d4d: No such file or directory
I have the file in the adb folder where i am launching cmd. adb devices shows my device ID and "sideload"
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I dont understand why i am getting this error:
PS C:\adb> adb sideload flame-ota-qq1b.191205.012.a1-59de0d4d
adb: failed to stat file flame-ota-qq1b.191205.012.a1-59de0d4d: No such file or directory
I have the file in the adb folder where i am launching cmd. adb devices shows my device ID and "sideload"
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Make sure you have the correct image for your device. Flame is for the 4, not 4XL. If that is the correct image for you, most errors are caused by either 1) you are not using the latest adb/fastboot binaries. If you type adb version you should get a return of 29.0.5 (October 2019). or 2) you have multiple versions of adb on your machine and verifying the version as in #1 above will alert you to that. Even if you are in the same folder, if an older version is in your PATH statement it can/will cause issues. Good luck.:good:
PS.. or you forgot to add the ZIP extension in your command? The image is a zipfile and you have to include the entire filename including the file extension. eg. flame-ota-qq1b.191205.012.a1-59de0d4d.zip
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Make sure you have the correct image for your device. Flame is for the 4, not 4XL. If that is the correct image for you, most errors are caused by either 1) you are not using the latest adb/fastboot binaries. If you type adb version you should get a return of 29.0.5 (October 2019). or 2) you have multiple versions of adb on your machine and verifying the version as in #1 above will alert you to that. Even if you are in the same folder, if an older version is in your PATH statement it can/will cause issues. Good luck.:good:
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Ahh it's prob 2). I have the 4 I just posted in XL cuz there is more activity.
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Ahh it's prob 2). I have the 4 I just posted in XL cuz there is more activity.
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Ah, ok ... just remember the file extension too. Best of luck.
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Ah, ok ... just remember the file extension too. Best of luck.
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got it to flash. i forgot to add the .zip part when sideloading.
now to see if faceunlock is fixed
Edit: Faceunlock still doesnt work...
is there an app in settings that controls faceunlock that i can clear data/cache and force stop?
sruel3216 said:
got it to flash. i forgot to add the .zip part when sideloading.
now to see if faceunlock is fixed
Edit: Faceunlock still doesnt work...
is there an app in settings that controls faceunlock that i can clear data/cache and force stop?
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Not that I am aware of... it's the phone security so I'm sure it's encrypted and on the Titan M chip (but I don't know for sure). Some folks have had to do a factory reset to fix the issue, especially if BL locked. Highly unlikely next months OTA will fix your issue. Do you have the option of unlocking? If so, now would seem a good time because you're going to lose your data either way. Anyway, start backing your stuff up and it may be time for a FDR. :crying:
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Not that I am aware of... it's the phone security so I'm sure it's encrypted and on the Titan M chip (but I don't know for sure). Some folks have had to do a factory reset to fix the issue, especially if BL locked. Highly unlikely next months OTA will fix your issue. Do you have the option of unlocking? If so, now would seem a good time because you're going to lose your data either way. Anyway, start backing your stuff up and it may be time for a FDR. :crying:
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damn it lol. yeah i have the option so i might as well unlock. Il do that tonight i guess. thanks for the help!
my phone wasnt ready for 2020
sruel3216 said:
...my phone wasnt ready for 2020
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Live and learn. Next time unlock out of the box before setting up. Even if you have no intention of ever rooting, if the "fit hits the shan"- you have more tools (and options) being BL unlocked. Cheers! :good:
v12xke said:
Live and learn. Next time unlock out of the box before setting up. Even if you have no intention of ever rooting, if the "fit hits the shan"- you have more tools (and options) being BL unlocked. Cheers! :good:
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unlocked and faceunlock works again...for now. hopefully that doesnt happen again. Thanks for the help!
Any idea what got it back going? Mine started repeatedly notifying me last night to update my face recognition data. As soon as I deleted the old data and enrolled again, it stopped working completely. Been broken 100% ever since. Tried reenrolling a couple more times. Reboot. So far no improvement. It just rhythmically flashes 'Can't verify face. Try again.'
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Any idea what got it back going? Mine started repeatedly notifying me last night to update my face recognition data. As soon as I deleted the old data and enrolled again, it stopped working completely. Been broken 100% ever since. Tried reenrolling a couple more times. Reboot. So far no improvement. It just rhythmically flashes 'Can't verify face. Try again.'
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This same exact thing happened to me last night. Message on the lockscreen saying to re-enroll my face or it may not unlock. What was funny was that it was able to unlock every time I tried. After re-enrolling, I get the same flashing "Can't verify face. Try again." message. Wonder if there was an A/B test that went out that messed things up. Do you happen to be rooted or have any other modifications?
Tried flashing a few different kernels to see if anything would change. I'm away from my computer for another week so I can't try reflashing images. Booting into safe mode did not work. Uninstalling Magisk did not work either.
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Im locked. Never unlocked or rooted. It hasn't worked ever after it stopped last night. Multiple face deletes and re-adds. Also haven't updated since last ota 3 weeks ago.
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Same boat (locked and stock - Verizon....tried to BL unlock when first turning on phone (removed SIM as to not activate) but that didn't work so locked it is). 2 days ago got the android notification to update my face data so I deleted it and went to re add and nothing but the cannot verify face try again messages. I just deleted face data and use my fitbit to smart unlock for now until this gets fixed to avoid having to repeatedly type my PIN in. To note I did the December update back in early December so it's odd that this has now reared it's ugly head.
Seems to have happened to a lot of people after the new year. Y2K bug twenty years later perhaps? lol
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This same exact thing happened to me last night. Message on the lockscreen saying to re-enroll my face or it may not unlock. What was funny was that it was able to unlock every time I tried. After re-enrolling, I get the same flashing "Can't verify face. Try again." message. Wonder if there was an A/B test that went out that messed things up. Do you happen to be rooted or have any other modifications?
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Yep, that's precisely how mine is behaving. I'm 100% stock.
The same just happened to me the last evening. Suddenly that message popped in and when I tried to delete and re-add the face unlock it completely stopped working. Pretty sure there is some Google A/B testing going on.
People reported factory reset should be the only way to fix this, so I'm gonna wait till tomorrow for the new security patches.
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Same boat (locked and stock - Verizon....tried to BL unlock when first turning on phone (removed SIM as to not activate) but that didn't work so locked it is). 2 days ago got the android notification to update my face data so I deleted it and went to re add and nothing but the cannot verify face try again messages. I just deleted face data and use my fitbit to smart unlock for now until this gets fixed to avoid having to repeatedly type my PIN in. To note I did the December update back in early December so it's odd that this has now reared it's ugly head.
Seems to have happened to a lot of people after the new year. Y2K bug twenty years later perhaps? lol
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Yep, that's precisely how mine is behaving. I'm 100% stock.
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TENN3R said:
The same just happened to me the last evening. Suddenly that message popped in and when I tried to delete and re-add the face unlock it completely stopped working. Pretty sure there is some Google A/B testing going on.
People reported factory reset should be the only way to fix this, so I'm gonna wait till tomorrow for the new security patches.
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yup pretty annoying. think factory reset is the only fix

OTA update endless fail loop PPWS29.69-39-6-4 on Magisk (un)rooted X4

I have two (identical) X4 1900-1 Android One phones , both were rooted with Magisk patched boot image on PPWS29.69-39-6-2. I was able to restore boot image with Magisk Manager on one and the January 1 PPWS29.69-39-6-4 OTA update completed successfully, I reinstalled Magisk per tutorial, root is present and Safetynet passed. The other one became stuck in a kind of updating loop for this OTA prior to restoring the image with Magisk, the update failed on "Step 3 of 6", then starts all over again, ad infinitum, causing battery drain and slowdown. It started this before I restored the boot image with Magisk but fail is continuing since doing so and after a reboot. Automatic updates were turned off in Developer Options, but it still tried to install the update before notifying me that it was available. One difference after restoring boot image with Magisk is that the phone is no longer showing the update progress page--when you tap System Updates the CHecking for Updates flashes briefly and then a toast says Software Update Unsuccessful. That message comes up every few seconds.
My past experience with failed OTA updates on other devices has been the update process stops with one failed update, never tries again and I had to flash manually. Wondering about the best way to address this issue is. One of these phones is my "backup" device, so I have some wiggle room on what to do. Should I (a) flash stock back on the problem phone and let it go through the several security updates, or could I possibly restore a TWRP backup from the updated phone on the problem one? I did a similar restore years ago from one Moto XT926 to another and it worked, but I believe the restored phone might have acquired the serial # of the donor.
I took logcats before and after unrooting, but had trouble uploading one of them. I'll try again.
I spoke a little too soon on the one that "successfully" updated. It is unable to complete phone calls with the same SIM that works in the one that keeps giving the failed update message. Calls just end as soon as send is pressed, or hang trying to connect. In Settings it shows the correct phone number etc., network settings are same as the working phone and this one worked with this SIM a few weeks ago. Some problems connecting to computer visa wifi as well. Beginning to wonder if this is a bad update? Could really use some help here as I don't have a fully functional phone now.
Turns out the "successfully" updated phone is pretty borked. Lots of strange behavior and black screen freezes. The modem/radio seem to have major problems. With no sim card in the phone, the LTE icon shows and indicates signal, but no connectivity. Freezes and blank screens when I hop around in Settings. Wifi connect is wonky. And no phone connectivity with SIM. Looking like I'm gonna have to go back to stock with PPWS29.69-39-6-2, the latest full FW I have.
Has anyone out there had problems with this OTA?
Where can I find the log file from the OTA update, to try and see what went bad?
On the "failed" phone, I was able to find the url for the OTA update (Blur_Version.29.461.4-29.481.10.payton_fi.google_fi.en.US.zip -- PPWS29.69-39-6-4) on the logcat and download it. I've uploaded it to Drive and here is the link is below if anyone needs it. There are lot of error and suspicious messages in one of the logcats from the failed one but interpreting them meaningfully is above my paygrade. I've attached another log to this post. Can someone tell me how to stop the endless updater loop until I can fix the other phone? I am unsure what app/service to disable. I read somewhere there is a way to delay updates on Pie, but it doesn't appear to be a toggle anywhere in Settings.
This is the Android One/Google Fi variant XT1900-1. Flash at own risk!
https://drive.google.com/open?id=151TRLKfmlROCT6f--U4PWRPqmkFyD0T9
The option to force updates is in Developer Options about 10 lines down.
Apparently it defaults to ON.
I have not tested that this would prevent updates since I leave it on, since I want updates.
Force Updates
KrisM22 said:
The option to force updates is in Developer Options about 10 lines down.
Apparently it defaults to ON.
I have not tested that this would prevent updates since I leave it on, since I want updates.
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Thanks , however that option was turned OFF in Developer Options. Update still forced itself on both phones.
Oh well! It's all google's fault!
Back to stock working so far
KrisM22 said:
Oh well! It's all google's fault!
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Appears so. Keep reading.
I flashed stock PPWS29.69-39-6-2 and so far things seem to be working--phone, data, wifi.
I'll give a full update on functionality and de-borking when the thing's finished its updates and app installs.
I did notice that in device setup, in the Google Terms the last item "Install updates and apps", states "This device may automatically download and install updates and apps from Google and your device manufacturer...." and there is no on/off toggle!!!! You are forced to accept this "setting", the only option is "Accept"!
Thanks again Google.
I suppose this means that the Developer Options setting is moot.
I would be interested to know if this "(it's not a bug it's a) Feature" is present in Oreo builds?
Remember that google doesn't write android so we can modify it - in fact, google goes WAY out of its way to prevent that - that is why there are so many releases of things like Majisk - google keeps blocking them.
Only a tiny tiny fraction of Moto X4 users attempt any modification of their phones.
You might succeed because you have not yet flashed a custom ROM and thus changed the bootloader and file system from the stock OTA'ed Pie setup. Those that have cannot return. Apparently ever.
KrisM22, would you say that the X4 is a less suitable device than others for rooting? And BTW appreciate your noob warnings, only wish they had appeared sooner. I had already rooted these earlier.
As a matter of practice, I never flash custom ROM or recovery on devices until after they've reached end of OEM support. Actually with the ability to boot TWRP via fastboot I don't see any advantage to installing it but numerous disadvantages. I have unlocked and rooted all my (unlockable) devices, but I may rethink that in light of these recent Android changes. For my next phone I would probably choose a more mod-friendly OEM, if such exists. One+ maybe?
a) you're welcome
b) don't mod this X4 in any way if you are OTA upgraded to Pie.
You might have been able to modify it if it was still on 7 or 8 but I have no idea what the devs are using for
1) bootloader
2)file structiure.
I think, if you have to root, go back to something like a G3, where the bootloader didn't change and the file structure didn't change. Even the Z play had probs around the Oreo bootloader change, but we still could use rsdlite to get back from most disasters.
iow, think pre/pre Treble in any form. It may be, in a couple more years, when Treble has stabilized, that we can get away with modifying things, but on a current phone I would avoid it, UNLESS others have already successfully/repeatedly done it.
I also feel that most of the reason for flashing a custom ROM are gone. People get there, spend a lot of time playing with updates and releases, and eventually go back to stock. There are always a few exceptions, but... As to the various reasons for "needing" root, I feel there are always alternatives. I use Block This! to keep ads out of Brave, BBC app, and APNews app. While there are occasions like can't-edit-build prop, I find I can live without it. It is an adjustment of attitude/expectation. Yes, I have had tons of fun and wasted tons of hours playing with my past phones, it happens I haven't missed it with this one, especially since the sec updates are so recent - I don't worry until it's a year or 2 past.
Once the X4 is on Pie stock, do not modify it in any way.
As to other phones, yes, if you really have to modify it, search the wealth of info that is XDA until you have found a phone that folks have been able to repeatedly get back to stock - be on the lookout for a trail of endless posts about bricked phones and blank flash stuff - a sure sign to avoid it. - This forum is littered with them!
If you have modified a phone: BEFORE taking an OTA, flash phone with latest stock, then let it take the OTA. I had to modify that - I have no idea if you can flash this thing once it is on Pie.
I also feel that most of the reason for flashing a custom ROM are gone.
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I agree, especially for current devices that are still supported. I'll leave these stock at least until that ends. I actually though it had already reached EOS, so I was caught with my pants down. That said, these phones ran just as well stock/rooted as all of their predecessors I have owned, and as well as when unrooted--until the update fail happened. I may root one if I decide to keep using it beyond EOS. And it's true that most custom ROMs are rarely as smooth and reliable as factory.
Yes, I have had tons of fun and wasted tons of hours playing with my past phones
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True Dat! But, a hobby is a hobby, and not everything hobbyists do in any field turns out stellar. One reason I always try to have have a decent running backup phone if I mess with a daily driver.
With an EOS device, the risk of a bad outcome is to a large degree mitgated by the greatly diminished value of the device. I have a Moto X 2015 Clark that I've been playing with Randomblame's LOS16 builds on, and it is very usable. Too bad that phone never had good battery life, I liked everything else about it. Might as well keep it rather than sell it for the maybe 50 bucks it might bring. Hell, I only cut my last XT926 loose early last year!
Everything's looking good. After flashing back to stock PPWS29.69-39-6-2, Phone updated OTA to PPWS29.69-39-6-4 and everything appears to be working well. So far no bad residue from past rooting etc.
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Everything's looking good. After flashing back to stock PPWS29.69-39-6-2, Phone updated OTA to PPWS29.69-39-6-4 and everything appears to be working well. So far no bad residue from past rooting etc.
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EXCELLENT!!! Great to hear!
Yes, always have a backup!!!
EOS: I was surprised by this update and am now guessing that we might even get one in Mar or Apr. We'll just have to see if that includes 10. But to me a phone is not really "EOS" until maybe a year or 2 after it stops getting updates. I haven't heard of anyone getting hacked. On any phone.
Great!!!
If you are willing, could you do a couple things:
Go to first post edit, go advanced and mark thread as SOLVED.
add a post about how you did it:
1) disclaimer: "Do at your own risk. I am not responsible for anything." or some such!
2. a sentence or 2 about how you did the flash.
3. attach a copy of the bat file you used for the flash.
I think only works if you haven't changed bootloader or file system - NO custom ROM.
Thanks!
Post issue solved etc.
I will happily do that once I've gotten the second X4 straightened out, at that point I'll feel confident it is really "solved".. Probably next week at soonest, I have a minor medical procedure today. I didn't use a .bat file, I fastboot flashed each .img, erase and sparsechunk the old school way. There was a flashall.bat I found on XDA but it was for Oreo builds, had a couple lines in it I was unsure about, and wasn't comfortable modifying it.
Many thanks! Hope all goes well with that today!
If you could provide a log, or list of commands used, that would help!
Update on flashing 2nd X4 back to stock...Flashed PPWS29.69-39-6-2 twice same results: I have wifi/LTE connectivity issues, the wifi constantly connects and disconnects and phone/LTE tries and fails.
There are a couple of threads that discuss similar probles with the X4 and offer various solutions. I may try those, or going back to original Moto Pie ROM or an intermediate build. I also was able to grab the latest Jan. 1 update ROM and that's another option.
The odd thing about this flash is that everything about the phone state was 100% identical to the other X4 that I successfully restored via exact same methods. It would appear that "your mileage may vary" applies. I'll update again when I have new info.
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Update on flashing 2nd X4 back to stock...Flashed PPWS29.69-39-6-2 twice same results: I have wifi/LTE connectivity issues, the wifi constantly connects and disconnects and phone/LTE tries and fails.
There are a couple of threads that discuss similar probles with the X4 and offer various solutions. I may try those, or going back to original Moto Pie ROM or an intermediate build. I also was able to grab the latest Jan. 1 update ROM and that's another option.
The odd thing about this flash is that everything about the phone state was 100% identical to the other X4 that I successfully restored via exact same methods. It would appear that "your mileage may vary" applies. I'll update again when I have new info.
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Thanks. modem problems? Dunno... Keep us posted! Thanks!
Are your two One fi, or regular - I bet the motherboards on the two are different, thus the different result.
Both One/Fi. Same baseband versionon both.
Just re-flashed NON-HLOS.bin ad fsg.mbn, same results.
I'm a little baffled by the script commands that follow these flashes to "erase modemst1/t2". One user on this thread claimed omitting (commenting out) those erase commands cured the problem https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/how-to/android-one-xt1900-1-wifi-sim-stock-t3941837.
I tried the modem flash mentioned above with out the erase commands. No change.
Another suggests:
My XT1900-7 had lost its IMEIs and Wifi connections, even after factory reset.
The solution:
Get XT1900-1_PAYTON_FI_9.0_PPWS29.69-39-2-4_subsidy-DEFAULT_regulatory-DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip from lolinet
if you are booting from slot _b, then go to fastboot and flash modem from this FI ROM:
Code:
fastboot flash modem_b NON-HLOS.bin
fastboot erase modemst1
fastboot erase modemst2
fastboot reboot
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Thinking about flashing back to original stock Pie 29.69-26, or the latest 29.69-39-6-4.

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