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iPhone 4 now plays 1080p videos easily, then why Galaxy S can't

http://blog.gsmarena.com/iphone-4-now-plays-1080p-videos-easily-does-some-xviddivx-magic-too/
Seems like some people managed to play 1080p on iPhone 4.
SGS has almost the same CPU with better GPU and option for overclock.
What is the reason that is preventing us from playing 1080p? Not good enough app or something else?

1080p on a 4" screen? no thank you.

We just seems to be needing a good codec to play 1080p. So it should just be a software limitation unless the GPU is capped at 720p!

ostendk said:
1080p on a 4" screen? no thank you.
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I would never watch 1080p on 4'' screen (even though some people would)
I'm just curios about the hardware.
@Prankey,
I guess SGX 540 can play 1080p if SGX 535 can.

I'll make a wild guess here:
iOS has all the software needed for full hardware acceleration while Android don't.

How is this a development related question?
And I thought galaxy can play 1080 without problems (didnt try though, as its very stupid).

so iPhone display is 960 x 640 pixels?
1080P is 1920 x 1080 pixels
unless it can output HDMI, seems pretty pointless to me.

The screen resolution is 800x480 anyway so the extra resolution does not benefit you at all. It's just a minor convenience to avoid converting the video but you're wasting battery power to decode the video and a lot of space. 720p is enough of a battery and space waster.

mickeko said:
I'll make a wild guess here:
iOS has all the software needed for full hardware acceleration while Android don't.
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1080p isn't even listed as a file which can be played. You can't even upload it via iTunes, so there is no official hardware acceleration built in for 1080p.
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How is this a development related question?
And I thought galaxy can play 1080 without problems (didnt try though, as its very stupid).
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I guess it is a development question, because it may be related with codecs, drivers, etc.
But no, it can't. I have tried it, even though I'm not about to watch full HD on my SGS
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so iPhone display is 960 x 640 pixels?
1080P is 1920 x 1080 pixels
unless it can output HDMI, seems pretty pointless to me.
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We can use microUSB to HDMI and we have DLNA. So it would be useful to us. Anyway, as I've already said my interest is about hardware capabilities not watching full HD on my phone.

Maddmatt said:
The screen resolution is 800x480 anyway so the extra resolution does not benefit you at all. It's just a minor convenience to avoid converting the video but you're wasting battery power to decode the video and a lot of space. 720p is enough of a battery and space waster.
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You still have to convert the video though for these devices still cause h.264 codec support for mobile devices don't support all of what the codec can do. It's also wasted bit rate as well. It's better to have a lower resolution video with a decent bit rate then it is to have a video with a massive resolution but not enough of a bit rate to smooth out artifacts. this resolution race for videos on mobile phones is a tad stupid.

Rock player plays 1080p for me.
The Video I tried was a bit choppy though but acceptable.
(I guess about 15-18fps). I only tried one Video wich I accidentally loaded on my device.
As far as I now Rock player does not use any GPU acceleration though pretty impressive what this little CPU is capable of.
Definatly plays full hd better then my atom netbook.

ostendk said:
1080p on a 4" screen? no thank you.
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agree it's simply over kill
all the extra processing is wasted on a 4" screen
actually iphone4 is only 3.5" not even 4"
720p is more than enough on the 4"

jam3sjam3s said:
1080p isn't even listed as a file which can be played. You can't even upload it via iTunes, so there is no official hardware acceleration built in for 1080p.
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I wasn't talking about hardware accelerated 1080p playback. I was talking about how everything in iOS is adapted to support as much of the hardware features as possible, while Android is not adapted to support the SGS hardware in any other way than Samsung just tossing in (semi)working drivers.

jam3sjam3s said:
1080p isn't even listed as a file which can be played. You can't even upload it via iTunes, so there is no official hardware acceleration built in for 1080p.
I guess it is a development question, because it may be related with codecs, drivers, etc.
But no, it can't. I have tried it, even though I'm not about to watch full HD on my SGS
We can use microUSB to HDMI and we have DLNA. So it would be useful to us. Anyway, as I've already said my interest is about hardware capabilities not watching full HD on my phone.
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And what format have you tried yo play it in?

jam3sjam3s said:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/iphone-4-now-plays-1080p-videos-easily-does-some-xviddivx-magic-too/
Seems like some people managed to play 1080p on iPhone 4.
SGS has almost the same CPU with better GPU and option for overclock.
What is the reason that is preventing us from playing 1080p? Not good enough app or something else?
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1/ there is no point, resolution-wise
2/ with iphone there is a VERY limited range of file formats you CAN actually play, so you will spend half your life converting to a format that apple can control. Most my 1080p movies are mkv format, a format that works on Galaxy S but not on iphone. All my SD movies are Divx and Xvid, again, not compatible with iphone.
Mark.

Well actually we can! Rockplayer can do it so please stop spamming this forum!
You apple fanboy

jodue said:
just ****ing stupid! 1080p on 800x480, wtf? even 720p is higher than the screen-resolution! also a movie in 1080p has ~10Gb which would almost fill my 16gb card. STUPID and completely SENSELESS!
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well apparently the people with iphone4 are too rich and too <insert what you think here> to care about that.
they probably think they have super wireless and can stream a 1080p movie and watch it over the air

AllGamer said:
they probably think they have super wireless and can stream a 1080p movie and watch it over the air
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And why not? 802.11n is more than enough for that...

Anything that can be done on the iphone 4 can be done on the galaxy s, just needs the right software to be made.
The only difference between the iphone 4 and the GS is the software, the screen, and the galaxy s having one generation newer gpu
Anyway what's the point in this? sd cards have a 4gb filesize limit, 1080p would waste so much battery for no benefit over a 720p file

technical spec yes
real life usage, not so great
wireless N is what i use for my home teather, yes it "works" but load time is horrible, as well as the random cut offs, then waiting for the load time again.... it's a pain in the aussie
it's much more convenient to first copy the entire movie into the hard drive via wireless N, then watch it
but that defeats the entire purpose of streaming a movie

Smoothvideo Project (SVP)

From the website:
"SVP allows you to watch any video on your PC file with frame interpolation (like you can watch it on high-end TVs and projectors). It increases frame rate by generating intermediate animation frames between existing ones to produce very smooth, fluid and clear motion. The technology is well-known for a while ("TrimensionDNM", "Motion Plus", "Motionflow" and others), but now it's available for free to PC users with simple GUI and just a couple of mouse clicks.
SVP provides GPU acceleration and it's possible to watch FullHD 1080p-video recalculated to 60Hz in real-time with mid-range CPU and almost any GPU hardware.
SVP actually is not a video player itself, but it enables almost any player to play smooth video."
I've been using this for a few days now and have been blown away by it. The initial kneejerk reaction when using it for the first time is that it's a little odd. We're so used to seeing video played back at the same low frame rates that we've had for decades that it takes a little time for the brain to adapt. For the first couple of hours of using it myself i had no intention of keeping it installed. After the second day of using it you couldn't pay me to go back to watching low frame rate video again! It's a night and day difference.
I could go on being effusive but you really need to try it yourselves to make your own minds up. All i would say is use it for a couple of days. You'll be impressed. The SVP package includes, and is preconfigured for MPC-HC. It does work with other players too though. I would recommend installing the full package using the default settings, ensuring that you've removed any other instances of MPC, Codecs and Filters first. And you do need reasonably decent hardware to run it well too.
Playing back a 1080 video uses 40% on all cores with my 3770K and 25% on my GTX570. I for one am actually glad to have something to run on a daily basis that justifies having spent money on good hardware though. Today i've watched a selection of HD movies and sport and each time it's taken my breath away how life-like everything appears. The clarity and immersion is incredible.
Here are some more links about SVP and HFR video:
Guru3D
Short Wikipedia entry
Interactive Demo
Demo Videos
Here are two short clips from Sons Of Anarchy. The first is normal framerate and the second at 60fps:
Original
HFR
The difference should be immediately obvious watching those two clips. If it's your first time watching HFR playback you might have experienced what people call the 'soap opera effect'. I know i did. That's what takes getting used to, but you soon do. It's LFR video that looks wrong to me now!
The flip side to using Frame Interpolation is artifacting. I found it intolerable with the default SVP settings, but setting 'Artifacts Masking' to 'Strongest' in each Profile has almost completely eliminated it for me. I might notice it once or twice during an entire movie only using that setting. Beside that, you might want to select the option for running SVP at Windows Startup and disabling the SVP On Screen Display too.
It's a profound change. James Cameron and Peter Jackson say it's the future of film. I would agree. Give it a go and see for yourselves.

Sounds pretty awesome. I'll give it a try and see if I like it.

Jessica said:
Sounds pretty awesome. I'll give it a try and see if I like it.
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It's not an audio clip that it sounds good it looks good
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Is it free?
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DanceOff said:
It's not an audio clip that it sounds good it looks good
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I know what it is.

Jessica said:
I know what it is.
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Lets be straight you were wrong firstly stop promoting amazon on aliens private chat forum
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Is there a tl;dr version?

jaszek said:
Is there a tl;dr version?
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No its a super boost mod for space ship DX-164B
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sy224048 said:
Is it free?
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I know its tl; dr but at least read the first paragraph.

I'm watching live sport at normal framerate right now and it looks like a stuttering, jittery mess. Once you go HFR, you can't go back.

Ok I read it now. Soap Opera for me, and trust me, I wont get used to it. I like watching my video at 24 - 30fps, the natural frame rate of the human eye.

Will give this a try, i am used to that effect on the TV already, it wont matter.
Aaand welcome back Dirk! Again!
Quoting wiki here "Thomas Edison said that 46 frames per second was the minimum: 'anything less will strain the eye.'"

jaszek said:
Ok I read it now. Soap Opera for me, and trust me, I wont get used to it. I like watching my video at 24 - 30fps, the natural frame rate of the human eye.
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Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.

veeman said:
Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.

veeman said:
Eyes don't see at a frame rate. There aren't any frames... everything is continuous. But when viewing anything above 60fps, eyes can't really tell the difference.
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I think I read somewhere, that when compared to video, we see at 30fps. Not saying that we DO see at 30fps, but that's what the video equivalent would be. That's why watching 29.95fps (most) movies they have a natural feel to them, and with something like The Hobbit with 50fps, most critics hated it, and said the 25fps version was much more pleasant to watch.

Yup Hobbit was 48fps..they are critics after all. I thought higher fps in 3D=less strain.
Anyway, I tried reading about this whole frame rate and eye thing yesterday night and gave up. Glad i didn't take up medicine in college...

jaszek said:
I think I read somewhere, that when compared to video, we see at 30fps. Not saying that we DO see at 30fps, but that's what the video equivalent would be. That's why watching 29.95fps (most) movies they have a natural feel to them, and with something like The Hobbit with 50fps, most critics hated it, and said the 25fps version was much more pleasant to watch.
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The human eye doesn't see in still frames, The reason why shooting at 24fps became standard was because first, it was just high enough to give a sequence of images a continuous look, while second being not so high that it became too expensive in celluloid costs.
As for The Hobbit. Remember the kneejerk reaction i mentioned? After a century of film being played back at 24fps we have become used to that. Of course it looks a little strange at first when seeing HFR for the first time. For most people, watching The Hobbit was the very first time they had been exposed to it. A lot of people conceded that by the end of the film they had not only grown accustomed to it, but also didn't notice it any more. It took all of a couple of hours for the soap opera effect to disappear for me too, as it does for everyone. As i said in the OP, you have to use it for a day.
Have a look at the Poll results on CNET. Most people liked the HFR version of The Hobbit btw:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57559560-221/poll-did-you-like-the-smoother-hfr-hobbit/
As i said before, i've used SVP all weekend on a variety of media and it is amazing. Once i had to watch something at normal speed after being adapted to HFR it really exposed the difference. LFR is a stuttering, blurry mess in comparison.
HFR is the future. James Cameron has already committed to it for his future projects. Most good quality HDTVs are released now with different implementations of Interpolation that people are getting used to using. SVP just brings that ability to the PC/HTPC. The same software also makes it possible to re-encode any movie you have made to 60fps ready for uploading or sharing, but improving the quality of them. Great for fast moving gameplay videos. The package also includes SVPTube, a nifty little app that lets you play back YouTube videos in real time with HFR applied to it. Pretty cool!

Ichigo said:
My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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Ah that's the second naruto refrence I had to read today. Well I'll give it a try.
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Ichigo said:
My eyes are special. I have the sharingan in one eye, byakugan in the other. I can see everything.
PS: I don't expect anybody to get this.
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I used to be so into anime that i got it
This program is free though right?
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[video]slowmotion feature from the camera app

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5xfIWzbv0Y
This is a video, filmed by me, showing the oneplus one's slowmotion feature!
I think it looks pretty cool. Tell me what you think about it? :fingers-crossed:

niko2931 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5xfIWzbv0Y
This is a video, filmed by me, showing the oneplus one's slowmotion feature!
I think it looks pretty cool. Tell me what you think about it? :fingers-crossed:
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Looks really nice. I just did some experimentation with it. For example my coffee maker making coffee.
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nazfalas said:
Looks really nice. I just did some experimentation with it. For example my coffee maker making coffee.
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Nice i love slowmotion videos! It's like a look into another world!

Decent for a mobile cam

sucks that it cant record sound. when watching my slow motion video of my son on my oneplus is just silent and boring.

chailee said:
sucks that it cant record sound. when watching my slow motion video of my son on my oneplus is just silent and boring.
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How can slow motion video has sound.
You want the sound to be slow motion too?
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chak29 said:
How can slow motion video has sound.
You want the sound to be slow motion too?
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Lol. Nice.
My friend recorded me juggling with the soccer ball the other day. Sick stuff, gotta love slow-mo.

Slow motion can have sound, and it would have been great if it came with sound, it makes everything funnier

Was it 60 fps or 120?

The Quality sucks so much compared to the Sony Z2

galop said:
Was it 60 fps or 120?
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It was filmed at 120 fps

niko2931 said:
It was filmed at 120 fps
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Wow, I didn't even know it could do 120fps... I had only ever tried it at 1080p. Nice to know that if you change it to 720p you can go slower!

kabauterman said:
The Quality sucks so much compared to the Sony Z2
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The quality sucks SOO MUCH compared to the iphone 6.
Maybe someone can do a hack for a higher FPS.

lemonspeakers said:
The quality sucks SOO MUCH compared to the iphone 6.
Maybe someone can do a hack for a higher FPS.
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I talk about 720p 120fps and not 240 fps...
It is a pretty crappy 720p Video looks more like 360p

kabauterman said:
I talk about 720p 120fps and not 240 fps...
It is a pretty crappy 720p Video looks more like 360p
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I know it's not the best video quality wise, but it was just a quick test. But yea they do have to make some improvements to the camera software. But i think if i had been better at filming, i could have choosen a better spot to film at.

niko2931 said:
I know it's not the best video quality wise, but it was just a quick test. But yea they do have to make some improvements to the camera software. But i think if i had been better at filming, i could have choosen a better spot to film at.
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It's not your fault all the reviews say the same about 120fps Videos of the One

kabauterman said:
It's not your fault all the reviews say the same about 120fps Videos of the One
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Yes but im a tiny bit a perfectionist, not completely but just a little bit. That is why it irritates me, that i couldn't get it to film a propper video

I flimed one of my dog chasing me, it's really cool!
But I would much prefer if it had audio! Hope they fix on next update!

This is mine
yup..it's low quality video, the video is to much pixelated compare to real 720p and the exposure is too dark...
searching for an app that can record raw 120fps....

lemonspeakers said:
The quality sucks SOO MUCH compared to the iphone 6.
Maybe someone can do a hack for a higher FPS.
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Having a higher FPS wont improve quality... I think higher Bitrate would have been better...

[Q] 1440p Video On Youtube?

can anyone confirm if youtube plays videos at 1440p on the N6? my note4 only goes to 1080p and am thinking of trading for the nexus, and this may help make the decision.

bobprobert said:
can anyone confirm if youtube plays videos at 1440p on the N6? my note4 only goes to 1080p and am thinking of trading for the nexus, and this may help make the decision.
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It should work but it depends on whether the particular video lists it as an option

bobprobert said:
can anyone confirm if youtube plays videos at 1440p on the N6? my note4 only goes to 1080p and am thinking of trading for the nexus, and this may help make the decision.
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I only see 1080P as the highest option. I read somewhere that YouTube removed anything higher then 1080p from the app

Well that's my question. Does the YouTube player have the 1440p option? On my note 4 the highest option available is 1080p but there is a hack where changing the build prop to 5.0 allows the 1440p option. I would prefer not to do this though as it's being reported it breaks s-note

rman18 said:
I only see 1080P as the highest option. I read somewhere that YouTube removed anything higher then 1080p from the app
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Thanks that's what I was afraid of

bobprobert said:
Thanks that's what I was afraid of
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I can confirm. I tried this video here http://youtu.be/p56_y43UuEk and there's no option for 1440

I can also confirm. Received my N6 today and the youtube app does not have any options for anything above 1080p even if the video is 1440p or higher. All you need is the updated apk from this post. It works in 1440p perfectly. http://www.reddit.com/r/LGG3/comments/2mxo74/youtube_5185_has_2k/

Do you think you can actually see the difference? Don't mean to sound like a ****, just curious. Lol

Yeah i can absolutely tell a difference. Try it.

Bohemus said:
Yeah i can absolutely tell a difference. Try it.
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That update is quite nice. Definitely worth the download for anyone second guessing themselves.

[Q] YouTube: enable 1440p/4K

Is there a way to enable 1440p (or 4K) option on YouTube?

Any particular reason? Your screen is "only" 1080p, so I have no idea what you want to accomplish with this...

Rebel_00XCV said:
Is there a way to enable 1440p (or 4K) option on YouTube?
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Lol, the OP3T only has a 1080 display so no you can't.
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B3501 said:
Lol, the OP3T only has a 1080 display so no you can't.
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fricy81 said:
Any particular reason? Your screen is "only" 1080p, so I have no idea what you want to accomplish with this...
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I solved by installing OGYouTube 2.7

Rebel_00XCV said:
I solved by installing OGYouTube 2.7
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How can it be "solved"? You can't display the resolution so what's the point?!
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I'd assume it would work similar to PC's. I only have a 1080p monitor but I can still watch 4k videos on youtube and they actually tend to look quite nice. No idea if it would be worth on a 5'5 display though.

Do you want to zoom?

1440p, 4k videos are looking better on 1080p screen, because there is less video compression artifacting. And you can watch 4k 360 videos too! If you know xposed, then use the YouTube+ module.

It's kinda pointless since our screen is 1080p. It won't display more pixels than it's capable of

G4B33 said:
1440p, 4k videos are looking better on 1080p screen, because there is less video compression artifacting. And you can watch 4k 360 videos too! If you know xposed, then use the YouTube+ module.
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Yeah, because the hardware in your phone is immune from creating those video artifacts...
Until I see a comprehensive, professional comparison article about the results of the YouTube/Google downsamlping algorithm vs the hardware solution in the 821 CPU I'll take that claim with a 4K sized grain of salt. But whatever, it your bandwidth and power to waste.

Rebel_00XCV said:
I solved by installing OGYouTube 2.7
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Does it have ad block?

MrPhilo said:
Does it have ad block?
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Yes, it has.