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Hi all,
I've been working on getting my XT862 to give me more life on the battery. I've rooted and debloated using psousa's stuff, but I'm still not where I'd like to be. I've noticed a few interesting things:
AOS is showing as the top user in the battery monitor. Currently it's at 32% with my display and WiFi bringing up the rear.
Even though I've run the debloat script as root and confirmed the rename of skype.bourbon and motoprint, these things still start up. How is this possible?
BetterBatteryStats shows that the suspend process is my main battery user. How does one fix that?
Any advice on what to look for?
best route is to install a custom ROM and try different ones out for battery life. I would suggest Maverick ROM also make sure you wipe battery stats after installing a new ROM and fully cycle your battery.
hematose said:
Hi all,
I've been working on getting my XT862 to give me more life on the battery. I've rooted and debloated using psousa's stuff, but I'm still not where I'd like to be. I've noticed a few interesting things:
AOS is showing as the top user in the battery monitor. Currently it's at 32% with my display and WiFi bringing up the rear.
Even though I've run the debloat script as root and confirmed the rename of skype.bourbon and motoprint, these things still start up. How is this possible?
BetterBatteryStats shows that the suspend process is my main battery user. How does one fix that?
Any advice on what to look for?
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I'm guessing suspend is another way of saying System Idle.. if you wanted to get rid of that, make a nandroid backup of your system (via bootstrap or safestrap) and experiment what system apps/services you can freeze (via Titanium Backup) without getting force closes on the stuff that you use. I have about 30-60 system apps/services frozen depending on the ROM that I run. I have no force close issues, and my system idle uses about 1 percent of the battery per hour.
Additionaly, if you are using the CDMA network, force CDMA mode, likewise from GSM/UMTS, if you are using it, force it, do not use Global, as it will have both radios running and searching for service.
Disable the use of wifi when you aren't using it (there is an option to auto turn it off when the screen turns off, however this may cause worse battery life if you are using data as it will try use your mobile network, requiring more power), if you wish to leave it on, increase the scan time interval (i made mine 10 mins, up from the stock 45 seconds)
Auto brightness (it isn't really that bad...)
And get the app called juice defender. Once you set it up it controls all of your wireless stuff. Like turning wifi and 3g off when you turn your screen off, etc.
Sent from my DROID3 using XDA App
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[*]AOS is showing as the top user in the battery monitor. Currently it's at 32% with my display and WiFi bringing up the rear.
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If you use Wifi often, it is a good idea to check your Wifi Sleep Policy. To do this, navigate to:
Settings > Wireless & Networks > Wifi Settings > Advanced Settings (hit menu to access this) > Wifi Sleep Policy
I have mine set to 'Never'. By default, it was set to turn off the wifi when the screen went off, so any background apps that run and use data default back to the mobile connection. When you turn the phone back on, it turns the Wifi back on from sleep mode. By changing the sleep policy to 'never' you prevent this disconnect/reconnect to Wifi cycle.
This helped my battery life when connected to Wifi. Let me know if it works for you.
Thanks to all
Thank you for your replies everyone. I'll have to get TB and start freezing stuff. What confuses me though is how a service like Verizon Apps or Skype Mobile gets started even though it was renamed ".bak" by psousa's script. Also, I've noticed that when I run the restore bloat software, I don't get back all the apps in my app drawer. I'm not sure why that is.
Is it possible something got screwed up if I ran the debloat script twice? I see that it does a bunch of mv proggie.apk proggie.apk.bak type work. If the first file wasn't found, is it possible that it overwrote the .bak with gibberish?
My WiFi sleep policy is never because I have WiFi all day and I like Google Talk a lot. I'd be happy if I could get WiFi/Display as my top users, just AOS seems like a bug.
I'm on UTMS so it's forced to that all the time.
Maybe the answer is to try the mods. Or maybe SBF to the stock and try again?
Hi all- Lately I have been getting terrible battery drain when my tablet sleeps while docked. I noticed that even though I have the Asus custom option for Mobiledock power saving mode enabled it does not work. I remember with my T101 I would have to enable, disable, and reenabel but that does not work. If I sleep the tablet and press any key on the dock it wakes. I suspect this is since the last recent update as the problem also seems to have started recently. My tablet is completely stock and not rooted yet.
Anyone else notice this?
Thanks
Moderater- Sorry, I was doing search on this and thought I was still in the question/troubleshooting forum. You might want to move this thread. mm
Install wake lock detector to see which apps are keeping your tablet awake.
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Install wake lock detector to see which apps are keeping your tablet awake.
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Just installed. Will post back results. Thanks.
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Install wake lock detector to see which apps are keeping your tablet awake.
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Just installed. Will post back results. Thanks.
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Wakelock manager is not working properly on my system. When I try to perform any action I just get a message that says "unable to perform requested action at this time, try again later." That said, it did open to the CPU wakelock page that was sorted by duration. The top of the list was Avast Mobile Security with a duration of only 9secs. I'm guessing that does not pose much of a problem.
I previously have BatteryStats Plus installed. It also is no longer working and is constantly crashing but I have been checking it since the battery drain problem started. It has a page for "potentially draining apps" that I am guessing also has to do with wakelocks. It has always reported that there are "no potentially draining apps"
What I also need to do, and should have tried already, is to sleep the tablet without the dock and see how the battery holds up.
I do know that the Asus Custom Setting for Mobiledock Battery Saving Mode is not working. Any key on the dock will still wake the tablet with this enabled. I suspect this is the problem. I should mention that I also have the tablet in Ultra Battery Saving Mode.
Can anyone with the latest update installed tell me if the Mobiledock Battery Saving Mode in setting under the Asus Custom Settings is working for them?
Thanks
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Wakelock manager is not working properly on my system. When I try to perform any action I just get a message that says "unable to perform requested action at this time, try again later." That said, it did open to the CPU wakelock page that was sorted by duration. The top of the list was Avast Mobile Security with a duration of only 9secs. I'm guessing that does not pose much of a problem.
I previously have BatteryStats Plus installed. It also is no longer working and is constantly crashing but I have been checking it since the battery drain problem started. It has a page for "potentially draining apps" that I am guessing also has to do with wakelocks. It has always reported that there are "no potentially draining apps"
What I also need to do, and should have tried already, is to sleep the tablet without the dock and see how the battery holds up.
I do know that the Asus Custom Setting for Mobiledock Battery Saving Mode is not working. Any key on the dock will still wake the tablet with this enabled. I suspect this is the problem. I should mention that I also have the tablet in Ultra Battery Saving Mode.
Can anyone with the latest update installed tell me if the Mobiledock Battery Saving Mode in setting under the Asus Custom Settings is working for them?
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Sounds like your device is not sleeping at all so you need to find out why - which wake lock detector or better battery stats would do - so you need to get a logcat of why they are not working
Sounds like you have major issues to me....
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Sounds like your device is not sleeping at all so you need to find out why - which wake lock detector or better battery stats would do - so you need to get a logcat of why they are not working
Sounds like you have major issues to me....
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Well I know from the reviews that Better Battery Stats has been crashing for a lot of folks. A logcat is a good idea. Maybe it's time to finally root and flash a new rom as well. Thanks
I have no significant drain with tablet sleeping when not docked. This is similiar to early problems with the TF101.
Is anyone else having dock draining issues? Is the dock power saving mode working for anyone?
Hi All,
I am a new Nexus 5 owner on T-Mobile and noticed that the phone was getting very poor battery life running stock Android 4.4.4, at least compared to my old Galaxy Nexus (which almost caught fire due to a charging port gone bad).
After rooting and installing the XPosed BatteryStats module and GSam Battery Monitor it appeared that SprintHiddenMenu aka System Programu was having a significant impact on the phone in terms of battery life when the phone should be asleep. Unfortunately revoking the excessive privileges with the 'App Settings' xposed module had little effect on CPU usage.
Eventually I decided to backup the apk to sdcard, remount /system read/write (`mount -o remount,rw /system`), delete /system/app/SprintHiddenMenu.apk and other cache & data files (found with `find / -iname '*hidden*'`), and reboot the phone.
The result has been a phenomenal increase in battery life so far (less than a day granted), going from greater than %5 battery consumption per hour to around or less than %1 per hour when sleeping.
Configuration is with location reporting set to off and battery saving mode, Droid Wall set to block some apps (including Kernel), and Greenify prevents various background apps. Network type is set to LTE and appears to be using very little CPU. Kernel now consumes more CPU on sleep than Android System (SprintHiddenMenu's category). DS Battery Saver might help to extend this further by disabling all network use and periodically wake for traffic.
For unrooted phones experiencing bad battery life you can try to Force Stop the System Programu app and test how that effects longevity. The service will restart on boot, however there is probably an app that can prevent that.
Wasn't able to find this info anywhere else so hope that helps some people that are frustrated with their Nexus 5 battery use.
Cheers!
I installed the xposed module for battery stats. Did the System Progamu show up in the wakelock details? It is listed in my included packages when I click Android System in GSam, but it hasn't been showing up in the wakelock.
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I installed the xposed module for battery stats. Did the System Progamu show up in the wakelock details? It is listed in my included packages when I click Android System in GSam, but it hasn't been showing up in the wakelock.
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I am not sure, wish I had taken a screenshot, but if your Android System use is higher than Kernel it is likely due to System Programu. Honestly I have no desire to install it again and check. I think it showed up with DS Battery Saver logs and is at the top of the list for Manage in GSam under Android System when it is causing high battery usage. Should have checked Net Logs also for more info on what was being sent.
A little rant about this program, best case it is trying to send usage statistics to the vendor (use of what? everything on the phone? how do I disable that? no opt-in or opt-out?). Worse case it is an intentional built-in back door and monitoring system, the app has access to everything on the phone and virtually no user interface other than jumping through hoops to create them. If I were a government agency trying to extract data or a malicious person designing a method to circumvent security I would look at System Programu.
Or even if it really is a misbehaving app designed as a developer tool then it was totally destroying my battery life, and as a developer I have no use for it.
YMMV though, simply perform a Force Stop on System Programu and see if your battery life is better when sleeping.
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And maybe I am entering into crazy guy territory but I find it interesting that SprintHiddenMenu and System Programu both start with the letter S and end with the U. su indeed....
alphamerik said:
I am not sure, wish I had taken a screenshot, but if your Android System use is higher than Kernel it is likely due to System Programu. Honestly I have no desire to install it again and check. I think it showed up with DS Battery Saver logs and is at the top of the list for Manage in GSam under Android System when it is causing high battery usage. Should have checked Net Logs also for more info on what was being sent.
A little rant about this program, best case it is trying to send usage statistics to the vendor (use of what? everything on the phone? how do I disable that? no opt-in or opt-out?). Worse case it is an intentional built-in back door and monitoring system, the app has access to everything on the phone and virtually no user interface other than jumping through hoops to create them. If I were a government agency trying to extract data or a malicious person designing a method to circumvent security I would look at System Programu.
Or even if it really is a misbehaving app designed as a developer tool then it was totally destroying my battery life, and as a developer I have no use for it.
YMMV though, simply perform a Force Stop on System Programu and see if your battery life is better when sleeping.
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And maybe I am entering into crazy guy territory but I find it interesting that SprintHiddenMenu and System Programu both start with the letter S and end with the U. su indeed....
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I'm just trying to figure out if I have the issue in the first place. If I leave my phone overnight, it only goes down by about 2-3% in 8 hours. During the day though is when the drain during sleep becomes higher.
PsychDrummer said:
I'm just trying to figure out if I have the issue in the first place. If I leave my phone overnight, it only goes down by about 2-3% in 8 hours. During the day though is when the drain during sleep becomes higher.
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Best way to figure out if it is having an effect on your battery life is just to Force Stop and see what happens, collect new battery stats.
It is a useless app, some people use it for the RTN functionality, which I have no use, and it was clearly trying to do stuff that I was not asking it to.
alphamerik said:
Best way to figure out if it is having an effect on your battery life is just to Force Stop and see what happens, collect new battery stats.
It is a useless app, some people use it for the RTN functionality, which I have no use, and it was clearly trying to do stuff that I was not asking it to.
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If you're not on Sprint I don't think there's any issue with just deleting the .apk. Lol
Lethargy said:
If you're not on Sprint I don't think there's any issue with just deleting the .apk. Lol
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From what I have read this actually provides the RTN menus on GSM phones that automatically work on CDMA networks like Sprint. It smells like evil though with all that extra functionality.
If I remember right the app was LG branded, and exists on phones other than the Nexus 5.
alphamerik said:
From what I have read this actually provides the RTN menus on GSM phones that automatically work on CDMA networks like Sprint. It smells like evil though with all that extra functionality.
If I remember right the app was LG branded, and exists on phones other than the Nexus 5.
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I deleted it from my ROM as I'm in Australia and have no need for it
It was causing a pointless wakelock on my device which is why I removed it in the first place.
alphamerik said:
Best way to figure out if it is having an effect on your battery life is just to Force Stop and see what happens, collect new battery stats.
It is a useless app, some people use it for the RTN functionality, which I have no use, and it was clearly trying to do stuff that I was not asking it to.
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I don't think it ever runs on my phone. I tried to force close it and it's greyed out. I've been checking for the past couple of hours and it seems like it's not running. I did try to greenify before force close, but I de-greenified it. So I guess it might come back when something triggers it. However, my Android system does use more than the kernel.
Let me keep this short and to the point. As numerous other users, I am also extremely bothered by the huge Android OS drain while on standby. On average, standby drain is 3% - 4% per hour,which is unacceptable. Let me describe my condition and my findings.
My setup
Stock OpenBeta 10 - 12, stock kernel, with Magisk and greenify. Dual sim (Airtel + Jio). 4G mobile data always active on Jio. Drain remains same if I disable both/ one of the sims, turn off data, or switch to flight mode.
What I tried
Used this command from a PC to check if any rogue app is using too much CPU. It once showed me Google drive was constantly using 6% CPU, but it was an one time bug, rebooting fixed it and never showed up again. Clearly, active usage was not problem, only the standby.
Code:
adb shell top -m 20 -s cpu
Then I checked BetterBatteryStats and I always see such alarming "Wake (Screen Off)" times. As you can see in screenshot in attachment. It is almost 50% of total standby. It might seem if the wakelocks are due to Google Play Services or GoogleQuickSearchBox, but no! Google's app take wakelock only if the phone is already awake, the primary reason of waking up has to be checked by this tool called Battery Historian by Google
To use it,
Download the repository as Zip file from https://github.com/google/battery-historian
Install python 2.7 and add python to your path.
Unzip Battery Historian after downloading as ZIP and go to scripts folder.
Run these two commands in cmd with phone connected in USB Debugging mode
Code:
adb shell dumpsys batterystats > batterystats.txt
python historian.py batterystats.txt > batterystats.html
If you cant get python running, skip the second command and upload the txt file here.
Now you will have a HTML file, possibly around 4-5MB. Opening it takes a bit of time to fully load in browser, like 1-2mins. Be patient.
In this graph, compare your screen, wake_lock* and wake_reason rows. In my case, the wake reason is almost always QCOM SMD-MODEM or QCOM SMD-MPM. And loads of wakelock from RILJ_ACK. Both of these point to possible screw ups from OnePlus at proper optimization of the radio interface.
I am not exactly sure what this means as I don't have much expertise on the kernel level, instead I am an app developer. I highly suspect it is a bug at the firmware/radio level.
I urge everyone to post their own findings and also help in fixing the problem with proper explanation if anyone possesses the kernel level expertise. I have also included my own battery stats in the attachments, if anyone is interested in further investigation
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So, over the last week, I have noticed such poor battery life. My battery is not performing as it once did.
I recently downloaded Power Shade, so I decided to disable it (not uninstall it). It's not listed in the Play Store at this time.
I have noticed that Android System uses a lot of my battery, while my battery life drops like a rock while I have my screen on. I never have my screen brightness passed 25% (and it is usually less).
Please take a look at these screenshots. What is going wrong?
Dankees said:
So, over the last week, I have noticed such poor battery life. My battery is not performing as it once did.
I recently downloaded Power Shade, so I decided to disable it (not uninstall it). It's not listed in the Play Store at this time.
I have noticed that Android System uses a lot of my battery, while my battery life drops like a rock while I have my screen on. I never have my screen brightness passed 25% (and it is usually less).
Please take a look at these screenshots. What is going wrong?
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It says your phone has been on the battery for over 15 hours.. I don't see how that's considered bad? That's pretty much what I get.
Install BBS, grant permissions and check what is messing your battery. That is awful SOT
vojopd said:
Install BBS, grant permissions and check what is messing your battery. That is awful SOT
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Would AccuBattery tell me?
Dankees said:
Would AccuBattery tell me?
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Run it and find out
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Run it and find out
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How are the two apps different?
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Run it and find out
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Well, I turned on Power Shade and left my phone untouched for one hour. My battery dropped 5%.
Then, I turned it off and left my phone alone for another hour and it went down only 2%.
So, that's the culprit?
I'm not sure if your battery drain is regarding normal usage or standby time.
If it's a standby drain, I would suggest installing Naptime app from the playstore. Grant the permissions via ADB, your standby battery life would be great.
I've experienced a really good battery mileage after installing the app.
Make sure you enable to aggressive doze option and keep the app out of power save or the sleeping apps option.
Also, try turning off Location and see if Android System percentage goes down.
Unix_Dominator said:
I'm not sure if your battery drain is regarding normal usage or standby time.
If it's a standby drain, I would suggest installing Naptime app from the playstore. Grant the permissions via ADB, your standby battery life would be great.
I've experienced a really good battery mileage after installing the app.
Make sure you enable to aggressive doze option and keep the app out of power save or the sleeping apps option.
Also, try turning off Location and see if Android System percentage goes down.
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Is this tough to do?
I had Location set to "High Accuracy" - I have now changed that to "Battery Saving."
Better?
Dankees said:
Is this tough to do?
I had Location set to "High Accuracy" - I have now changed that to "Battery Saving."
Better?
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The naptime app is a piece of cake if you have root access, if your phone is not rooted, the app will suggest some steps you can follow to allow it function properly. For the non-root method, you will require a computer and ADB (Android Debug Bridge) to be installed in the computer.
If you kept location service to battery saving then maybe it might help save battery juice.
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The naptime app is a piece of cake if you have root access, if your phone is not rooted, the app will suggest some steps you can follow to allow it function properly. For the non-root method, you will require a computer and ADB (Android Debug Bridge) to be installed in the computer.
If you kept location service to battery saving then maybe it might help save battery juice.
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I think I will stick with the Location setting change.
I'm also finding TuneUp Master Pro to be helping.
What do you think of BetterBatteryStats?
Later today, I can post screenshots.
Right now, I am at 63% battery left with 2 hours of screen time. (Note, much of this has been with super low battery brightness.)
Unix_Dominator said:
The naptime app is a piece of cake if you have root access, if your phone is not rooted, the app will suggest some steps you can follow to allow it function properly. For the non-root method, you will require a computer and ADB (Android Debug Bridge) to be installed in the computer.
If you kept location service to battery saving then maybe it might help save battery juice.
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Do you have certain settings that you think I should really have (without any repercussions) that you could screenshot me?
What do you think of these settings?
About 7 hours were not on Wi-Fi...
Dankees said:
I think I will stick with the Location setting change.
I'm also finding TuneUp Master Pro to be helping.
What do you think of BetterBatteryStats?
Later today, I can post screenshots.
Right now, I am at 63% battery left with 2 hours of screen time. (Note, much of this has been with super low battery brightness.)
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Hey,
I think TuneUp Master Pro might help you, I haven't actually used BetterBatteryStats.
But I saw your screenshot, one thing I noticed is that you keep bluetooth switched on (Android Wear)?, If so then I think maybe that is your issue (I'm saying this cause I have a Gear 2 connected to my Note8, when the device is connected it takes some amount of battery). Try to use your device without bluetooth for maybe 1 day and see if there is any improvement in Battery Life and Screen On Time.
I would suggest other basic options like:
1. Turning off Location when you don't need it
2. Turning off Bluetooth
3. Turning off Mobile Data (or keeping the network mode to 3G/2G)
4. Delete useless apps, if you have apps like BetterBatterStats, I think they can monitor app data and battery usage.
5. Goto Settings>Device Maintenance>Battery, scroll down till the end and select "always sleeping apps", select apps that you want only to wake up when you open the apps. Go back and remove useless or unwanted apps under the unmonitored apps section (This option is right before the always sleeping apps one).
Also try doing a cache clear from Android Recovery (Be Careful when selecting the options):
1. Turn off your phone
2. Hold the Volume Up, Bixby and Power Button simultaneously until you see the boot screen, as soon as you see that screen release your fingers from the buttons
3. Once the recovery options come, use your volume buttons to move up and down, and the power button to select an option.
4. press volume down and select the clear cache option, press the power button, use the volume down button again to select "Yes" and press the power button.
5. It will clear Cache
6. Restart your, its the first option in the menu.
This might helps the phone clear cache files and maybe fix your battery issue.
It would also be good if you install this app, after installing goto the "Personal" tab and check if your battery health is good, mine is 91%. You should also be in that range or maybe 80%. If the percentage is bad then maybe I think you would require a battery replacement. Correct me if I am wrong guys, but just a suggestion.
One more thing, is your phone rooted or having a custom rom?, if yes I suggest to try Naptime and other rooted battery saving apps like Greenify.
If not then I think you and me will have to hope that Android 9.0 Pie would have some improvement, sadly I have been a Samsung user for 4 to 5 years, this isn't usually the case with Samsung OS updates .
Based on this, I don't think I have anything rogue going on, do you?
(Notice that I didn't use my phone at all during this time, nor did I leave home.)
OK, I have attached stats for my phone from today.
Please take a look.
When not using my phone, my battery only dropped about 2% per hour, which is great. But when my screen was on, I seemed to have lost a lot of power. I can't even get 4 hours of screen on time.
What would cause tis to happen? I barely have my screen brightness at 20%.
Does this tell you more? It shows battery usage with cell phone signal.
(I was off Wi-Fi for about the last 6 hours of the day.)
Does this show a slower battery drop with a better signal?
Dankees said:
OK, I have attached stats for my phone from today.
Please take a look.
When not using my phone, my battery only dropped about 2% per hour, which is great. But when my screen was on, I seemed to have lost a lot of power. I can't even get 4 hours of screen on time.
What would cause tis to happen? I barely have my screen brightness at 20%.
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Chrome and facebook drain lot compared to others. Are you putting them (and others) to sleep using device management? Also, 2.7% drain per hour isn't fantastic. You can drop that to approx 1% if you tame enough things on your phone.
Dankees said:
OK, I have attached stats for my phone from today.
Please take a look.
When not using my phone, my battery only dropped about 2% per hour, which is great. But when my screen was on, I seemed to have lost a lot of power. I can't even get 4 hours of screen on time.
What would cause tis to happen? I barely have my screen brightness at 20%.
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2% per hour for rooted phone is very bad. In 10 hours you loose 20% battery, looks very bad too. If you open the 4g you loose 40%. I loose 2% every 10 hours and i have 95% kernel deep sleep. Your System have big drain in first picture. Debloat your rom and fix your bad wakelocks with amplify and with appops. Possible change your rom and your kernel if you are not rooted. If you are not rooted god bless you, or read the xda threads to learnd about the phones. All your apps have very bad wakeup issues. This apps run all the time and dont leave the phone to sleep. You use malware bytes into android.... the linux is not windows 10. You dont need this crap apps.
sefrcoko said:
Chrome and facebook drain lot compared to others. Are you putting them (and others) to sleep using device management? Also, 2.7% drain per hour isn't fantastic. You can drop that to approx 1% if you take enough things on your phone.
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Should they always be sleeping?