Still worth buying at $375? - Xperia Z4/Z3+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Getting this phone for 375 dollars from Amazon India. I read a lot of reviews and got mixed feedback. Many of the reviews claimed that updating to Marshmallow reduced heating issues. Would like to get some feedback from the users, their experience and issues faced. Is the battery life and performance satisfactory?

peRFect! said:
Getting this phone for 375 dollars from Amazon India. I read a lot of reviews and got mixed feedback. Many of the reviews claimed that updating to Marshmallow reduced heating issues. Would like to get some feedback from the users, their experience and issues faced. Is the battery life and performance satisfactory?
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It is recommended only for Sony brand lovers & Stock ROM users. The phone is awesome at the price with only one issue of heating. After Marshmallow update, the phone is stable and perfect. But, still you can feel the over heat at the top back of the phone while using camera, heavy gaming, data & 4k video recording. There is no custom ROMs available for this model. It is not recommended for Custom ROM Lovers.

This phone sucks
.. I am from India too and I regret buying this phone... Please go for OPPO F1 plus its a beast.

Don't walk away from this phone. Run!
peRFect! said:
Getting this phone for 375 dollars from Amazon India. I read a lot of reviews and got mixed feedback. Many of the reviews claimed that updating to Marshmallow reduced heating issues. Would like to get some feedback from the users, their experience and issues faced. Is the battery life and performance satisfactory?
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It is the worse phone I've had ever bought in my life. Overheating issues, bluetooth isssues, the lot! I have a Android Wear smartwatch that I cannot use with this phone, because Sony made a mess with bloatware running along the bluetooth stack ("throw" extension). I cannot make a movie of my kids for more than 2 minutes in a sunny day, because the camera overheats and shutdown automatically.
It would be worth buying at $75. Maybe.

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Are you happy with your Lg 2x?

So the time has passed. Updates have come(?). Overall are you happy with your Lg 2x? I am certainly not.
I am not happy with my 2X. Battery drain so quickly, looking for upgrade for iPhone 5 after possibly it gets launch in October or November.
Bought mine in march 2011. If you asked me this in april last year, i would have said yes.
But now, NO! I almost hate my phone, waiting for the SGS3 to be available.
i am wondering why aren't you happy..
i got my phone very cheap and i couldn't get near the specs even with double the money. I am running CM9 and even in this not finished state it runs smoothly and the battery lasts 2 days easy
Why in particular are you unhappy?
the stock froyo was crap, i'd agree with that. but since I'm running cm9, the phone is incredibly smooth and battery life is also great.
just curious
Batterylife is terrible! signal is very unstable when on 3G. I paid full price, i preordered it. I admit, i use the phone alot. Not playing games, but surfing, email, all the stuff a smartphone is smart at. But most of the time it is sitting in the charger. Off screen 0,5%-1%/hour.
If i got it for 250€ then i would be satisfied. I paid too much when comparing it to other phone just a month after.
I did not have reboots or black screens of death the first couple of months. It started to be very annoying in the beginning of this year.
I am quite happy with my o2x, just got it very recently(You might ask why with all the new phones coming out etc, well this phone was much cheaper than any other dual core phone/phone with similar hardware and it seemed to have decent support on here which it does). I am running CM9 on it and it is very smooth, sure battery life isn't too great, but it isn't too bad. Not sure why people are unhappy with it besides the battery life, but honestly you won't get that much better on most other phones. Perhaps it is because you got it for quite a expensive price when it was first released and expected more or something or you are comparing it to newer, more expensive phones?
There currently are satisfied with this phone.
I have not had problems, I had installed many custom rom on it.
The only thing that bothers me is support from LG on the update.
I got it through a series of trades, overall money spent: 150€ ~ 200$
For that price it is a great phone but i don't like it very much. Stock firmware is ugly and updates are slow. With custom roms it is a very nice phone, very smooth and with high battery performance.
On the other side i don't like soft touch buttons (too much space occupied) and the overall design (iphone-like)
Very happy with my phone, i bought it in may or june on contract with Orange and it works out that the phone cost me £168... bargain as you would struggle to get something like a wildfire for that price back then!. But i would be even happier if we had ICS officially now and actually had resources to work with so even better third party roms could be made.
Sometimes i do feel that i just WANT to leave the custom ROM area, sometimes i do just want my phone to WORK it works most of the time but theres a fair amount of slow downs and it can get annoying, but value for money i cant fault it!.
u guys compplaining about the o2x, but i can tell you, my friend has a sgs2 and its battery life is far worse than mine, funny if u consider mine is clocked 200 mhz higher than his and theyr both tegra 2. plus i have never even seen a sgs2 even get close to an o2x, even in every benchmark o2x wins by far especialy in graphics, btw ill leave you some screenshots so u can take your own conclusions. btw, this is only my view not sayinng its an absolute truth but still its awesome to see sgs2 oc'd to 1.5 ghz lose in performance to a 1.4 ghz o2x XD
It is a good phone for apps but the odd radio issues still baffle me.
Data can't be reactivated after being disabled for some time.
GPS, Bluetooth and 3G seems to have some warfare, the radio crashes sometimes when i use my A2DP with maps.
And for most people these issues probably will never happen for them.
EDIT: Another thing to add is that the built quality is great, i like the curved glass edges and the camera is really good.
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It is a good phone for apps but the odd radio issues still baffle me.
Data can't be reactivated after being disabled for some time.
GPS, Bluetooth and 3G seems to have some warfare, the radio crashes sometimes when i use my A2DP with maps.
And for most people these issues probably will never happen for them.
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well, i gotta tell you, im one of those people... XD i never use 3g, only use data if some1 sends me an mms, but i turn it off as soon as i get it, and i always uninstall google maps and all gps related softare coz i simply dont need em, i got 3 gps devices plus the only time i used the gps on the o2x it ate my battery like there was no tomorrow XD
I'm quite happy with my o2x. Running self kang cm7 stable as rock with good battery life. Tonns of features ....
I'm gonna sit till cm9 comes with hwa. Till then cm7 still my daily driver.
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u guys compplaining about the o2x, but i can tell you, my friend has a sgs2 and its battery life is far worse than mine, funny if u consider mine is clocked 200 mhz higher than his and theyr both tegra 2. plus i have never even seen a sgs2 even get close to an o2x, even in every benchmark o2x wins by far especialy in graphics, btw ill leave you some screenshots so u can take your own conclusions. btw, this is only my view not sayinng its an absolute truth but still its awesome to see sgs2 oc'd to 1.5 ghz lose in performance to a 1.4 ghz o2x XD
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Man both phones are clocked to 1.5ghz not only the sgs2
Also you are running cm, whilst galaxy s 2 is running stock
In same conditions i don't know who wins
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Apart lg sucky support and update the phone is good and im happy with it but i would buy another lg device considering lgs reputation now, might go with huawei new quad core device.
Yes
Yes, i've just installed CM9 on my 2x and it's working great.
I've paid a very low price for this phone and i couldn't expect anything better for that price, at least here in Brazil.
The phone has some bugs, such as loss of signal and battery drain, but it's nothing that makes me hate the phone
Nah, I can't say I am happy with my 2X. ****ty LG support which results in bad performance despite good hardware. Very fast battery drain. Random shutdowns oder sleeps of death where I have to take battery out.
The phone (O2X) rocks, its just that the company "LG" sucks (BIG TIME)
As many have stated, it is comparitively cheaper than its competitors having similar or better specs, we're just let down on the software department thanks to LG but even then with great developers around here, it just makes it on par with the rest.
Been using MIUI till recently and now Temasek's ROM, its running really great and I'm glad to have such support from these devs around.
Basically the bad support and sub-sub optimal stock ROM makes the phone crappy. Hardware-wise it's great.

Buying a Moto G ?

Hi all
i broke my OPO 2 months ago , and hell does it hurts the phone was the embodiment of everything i wanted from a phone at a great price , i literally cried that day
since then i changed to my replacement phone and i blocked out everything android since then , hearing it just hurts my heart
but now i am thinking of getting the moto g 2014 since it reached malaysian shores
the things i look for in a phone
1. Good Battery life
2. After market ROMs / community
3. Size , i like my phone thick and bulky since it doesn't need a cover
4. Display
5. Performance
what i don't use in a smartphone , 3G , 4G , music listening and gaming
so will the moto G suffice my criteria? it really is cheap and i am willing to sacrifice some performance to buy it
Battery life is okay much btr than my nexus bt still will be less than ur opo..
Performance is good its a decent quad core...dont compare it wid sd800 devices
Roms have started to emerge slowly ...thanks to bunch of developers who are patiently developing...
Display is good...u wont be disappointed
I think that if you don't need really much from the battery you won't be disappointed for this price.
Hmmm cool just does this phone need a cover? i heard it's pretty thick if so i think i can save a few bucks on covers and is the browsing experience and everday usage experience smooth? i am not much of a phone user , only use it for taking down lecture notes , browsing the web and wikipedia
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Hmmm cool just does this phone need a cover? i heard it's pretty thick if so i think i can save a few bucks on covers and is the browsing experience and everday usage experience smooth? i am not much of a phone user , only use it for taking down lecture notes , browsing the web and wikipedia
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I don't know about cover, but about usage experience; if you get Lollipop for the phone, it is smooth as butter, KitKat is kind of wonky due to Memory management bug, where background apps get killed.
I only had Nexus phones so far but since google/Motorola raised the price for the N6 to a much higher level I bought the Moto G2 since the price is very nice. Would I buy it again? Not with Kitkat. The memory management really sucks and makes everyday usage a pain in the ass. There's still no lollipop update for my phone but most users that got the update already say the memory management is much better with lollipop. So I would recommend it with lollipop. With Kitkat running on it: definitely not!
Edit: I don't use a cover and I think it's not necessary.
I just bought it to replace a faulty galaxy s5 and I actually prefer it, cracking phone

Would you recommend this phone to a friend? Or another device with Nougat?

Are people still enjoying the Z3+ (E6553)? I read it has Nougat and I want that. My last good phone was a Note 3, but Samsungs have a variety of issues like GPS and dead screens (not to mention exploding batteries) so I am looking at Sony. What do people think?
First of all, the phone is still on Marshmallow, and battery is awful and heat as well, there isn't much development so NO
Hell NO, stay away from this piece of sh*t.
If I returned back to purchasing point, I would grab a nexus 5x over this one. Right now there are numerous great offers and I don't recommend this one.
if a friend dosent play games its really good.
but if a friend would play pokemon go (just for example) an old samsung s3 would be better.
Worst phone, ever.
wow, thanks. Are any Sony phones good?
Also the sony website says the phone is getting Nougat. Is it not out yet?
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
X
X performance
XZ
I don't own any of those, but they all seem good.
I bought the z3 plus for my girlfriend over the summer. Haven't had any issues with it. She plays the occasional game or two. But mostly uses it for Facebook, spotify and texting. Battery life is pretty good. Easily lasts a full day. Finally, haven't noticed any heating issues either. Sony definitely fixed the heating issues that were present when the device first came out. I would recommend the z3 plus if you can get it for a good price.
Got z3+ half a year ago. Using fot twitter, instagram, phone and playing ingress. Got 4-5 hours of ingress, no overheating. I would recommend.
overheating is not happening for me because i just check telegram and instagram but battery is really bad! z5 has the same battery but it is really better than z3+,plz go find something else,if you can buy it i suggest z5,its really good and after you buy sony phone i say you will never buy another companys phone bro
i LOVE the z4/z3+ and heat, for me, is now gone... perfect ( for me ) form factor, awesome screen... I feel like Z4 is THE pinnacle of Xperia's design language, the last flagship to bear the iconic power button.
...the battery life not as great when compared to other newer Xperia offerings which are now already coming down in price. Camera is ok in daylight.
Huge fan... have recently made x compact my daily, mostly for camera and battery,
and have XZ as well, but still prefer the in-hand feel of Z4 and will never get rid of it.
no Nougat.
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Are people still enjoying the Z3+ (E6553)? I read it has Nougat and I want that. My last good phone was a Note 3, but Samsungs have a variety of issues like GPS and dead screens (not to mention exploding batteries) so I am looking at Sony. What do people think?
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Sony Phones are just fancy phones. They all are appealing look. But their build sucks. I prefer Samsung over Sony and now a days OPPO phones are better than both Sony and Samsung.
You're in the minority, but I appreciate the opinion
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i LOVE the z4/z3+ and heat, for me, is now gone... perfect ( for me ) form factor, awesome screen... I feel like Z4 is THE pinnacle of Xperia's design language, the last flagship to bear the iconic power button.
...the battery life not as great when compared to other newer Xperia offerings which are now already coming down in price. Camera is ok in daylight.
Huge fan... have recently made x compact my daily, mostly for camera and battery,
and have XZ as well, but still prefer the in-hand feel of Z4 and will never get rid of it.
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I might go LG instead

OnePlus 3T - Bad Experience?

This has been my first Android phone since probably the Nexus 5. I've been on iOS ever since then. iOS has been great. The phones were always fast and they always worked. Camera was also really good. My experiences were great. Although the phones were overpriced and they were from Apple which I hated tbh.
So I decided to switch over to Android.
First impressions with the OnePlus 3T were pretty good. The phone's screen was awesome and the battery was incredible! I was on 3.5.3 and I was really enjoying the phone. But then shortly after that, the problems started coming in.
First, the issues with T-Mobile started popping up. I was getting EXTREMELY slow network speeds. I mean they were 0.34 - 1.60mbps DLs and around 1.2 - 2.0mbps upload on a good day an excellent coverage. I was having trouble streaming Spotify. I couldn't really get around it until I upgraded to 3.5.4. Now the speeds are decent with around 10mbps DLs and 3mbps upload. Still much slower then what I had on my iPhone. But upgrading to this OS has decreased battery life significantly! I can barely get a day out of my phone now with moderate use. I've tried clearing cache, checking rogue apps but still it's just horrible.
Second, camera is pretty bad. It's a bit slow at times and low light performance is pretty bad. And this isn't like extreme low light. I'm talking about if I were in a dim room the pictures would come out grainy and dark. Not sure if this is software related or hardware.
Third, I feel as if OnePlus support is pretty bad. Is this just me? I've been looking at other posts throughout they're phone releases and it always seems as if they have problems one way or another.
I don't know. Where my expectations too high when switching to Android again? I mean I know this is a "budget" phone so I shouldn't be expecting too much but I really wanted the phone to work one way or another. What do you guys think? Will OnePlus eventually be able to fix the quirks in the software?
Here is another guy who just switched and kind of having similar issue. I guess the price is around 1/3 so i have reduced my expectations to 1/3 which in a way 1+3T is performing better than that.
NoLunchBox_ said:
This has been my first Android phone since probably the Nexus 5. I've been on iOS ever since then. iOS has been great. The phones were always fast and they always worked. Camera was also really good. My experiences were great. Although the phones were overpriced and they were from Apple which I hated tbh.
So I decided to switch over to Android.
First impressions with the OnePlus 3T were pretty good. The phone's screen was awesome and the battery was incredible! I was on 3.5.3 and I was really enjoying the phone. But then shortly after that, the problems started coming in.
First, the issues with T-Mobile started popping up. I was getting EXTREMELY slow network speeds. I mean they were 0.34 - 1.60mbps DLs and around 1.2 - 2.0mbps upload on a good day an excellent coverage. I was having trouble streaming Spotify. I couldn't really get around it until I upgraded to 3.5.4. Now the speeds are decent with around 10mbps DLs and 3mbps upload. Still much slower then what I had on my iPhone. But upgrading to this OS has decreased battery life significantly! I can barely get a day out of my phone now with moderate use. I've tried clearing cache, checking rogue apps but still it's just horrible.
Second, camera is pretty bad. It's a bit slow at times and low light performance is pretty bad. And this isn't like extreme low light. I'm talking about if I were in a dim room the pictures would come out grainy and dark. Not sure if this is software related or hardware.
Third, I feel as if OnePlus support is pretty bad. Is this just me? I've been looking at other posts throughout they're phone releases and it always seems as if they have problems one way or another.
I don't know. Where my expectations too high when switching to Android again? I mean I know this is a "budget" phone so I shouldn't be expecting too much but I really wanted the phone to work one way or another. What do you guys think? Will OnePlus eventually be able to fix the quirks in the software?
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I recently switched to iOS after years of android. I agree that overall iOS runs more smoothly but still like android for the customization and freedom. I think with android one needs to understand that the experience can be very different from device to device.
just my opinion though
bert90987 said:
I recently switched to iOS after years of android. I agree that overall iOS runs more smoothly but still like android for the customization and freedom. I think with android one needs to understand that the experience can be very different from device to device.
just my opinion though
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iOS is laggy as hell, at least on my iPhone 7 Plus.. Many skipped frames in animations.
Michalko5896 said:
iOS is laggy as hell, at least on my iPhone 7 Plus.. Many skipped frames in animations.
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That's odd. I haven't noticed it. It seemed smoother than my nexus 6p and S6 edge plus usage.
Is there a particular application you are referring to?
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bert90987 said:
I recently switched to iOS after years of android. I agree that overall iOS runs more smoothly but still like android for the customization and freedom. I think with android one needs to understand that the experience can be very different from device to device.
just my opinion though
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That is very true. It's like a trade off. Android is very free and customizable while iOS is very restrictive. Jailbreaking helps but not as much as Android.
I mean don't get me wrong, I like this phone. There's just trade offs I guess with it. Honestly, if I were to get the battery life of 3.5.3 and the LTE band modifications from 3.5.4, I would say this phone would be near perfect. At least for me, in my opinion.
Hopefully it happens with Android N.
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That's odd. I haven't noticed it. It seemed smoother than my nexus 6p and S6 edge plus usage.
Is there a particular application you are referring to?
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Very odd. Never had any issues with my 6s. It ran smooth as hell. Cache did build up once and got laggy but I had it jailbroken and cleared it up. Ran perfect after that.
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That's odd. I haven't noticed it. It seemed smoother than my nexus 6p and S6 edge plus usage.
Is there a particular application you are referring to?
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No, the whole system is laggy. Just google iPhone 7 Plus lag. 6s and 6p are both much smoother. S6 is just a lagfest.
Michalko5896 said:
No, the whole system is laggy. Just google iPhone 7 Plus lag. 6s and 6p are both much smoother. S6 is just a lagfest.
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I know that initially it wasn't optimized great (the iPhone 7 plus) but 10.2 seems to work fine for me. I definitely experience more lag and random heat up of the devices with the Nexus 6p and S6 edge plus both on Marshmallow. I sold them before Nougat so I can't speak for their performance with those updates.
I am a Android fan, so a bit biased. I have the 128gb 3T. The camera for me is always an afterthought, but the implementation is average-so.of your a big camera user get a s7 edge. The front camera works great imo. The 821 processor, device fluidity, screen quality, minimal software implementation, updates and in my case (network speed, T-Mobile-old sim card, 3.5.4) are awesome,
Bluetooth is great ( in would have preferred aptx HD like the G5 ( sound quality suffers)- but the strength is good.
The encryption is excellent, and fast (only hiccup is twrp loads slow-not a biggie though), fingerprint and pin are significantly faster than any of my other devices for less than $500.
I wish they had the V20 DAC, and a proper tempered glass protector, bit other than that this is the phone to beat for 2016- if you factor in price
Not sure why so many complaints. My battery life is great and the dash charger is friggin awesome. I thought it was gimmick, but man it charges fast.
Audiophile-get the V20
Best Camera get the S7 edge (best camera and battery)
Everything else the 3T is the phone to get!!
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I am a Android fan, so a bit biased. I have the 128gb 3T. The camera for me is always an afterthought, but the implementation is average-so.of your a big camera user get a s7 edge. The front camera works great imo. The 821 processor, device fluidity, screen quality, minimal software implementation, updates and in my case (network speed, T-Mobile-old sim card, 3.5.4) are awesome,
Bluetooth is great ( in would have preferred aptx HD like the G5 ( sound quality suffers)- but the strength is good.
The encryption is excellent, and fast (only hiccup is twrp loads slow-not a biggie though), fingerprint and pin are significantly faster than any of my other devices for less than $500.
I wish they had the V20 DAC, and a proper tempered glass protector, bit other than that this is the phone to beat for 2016- if you factor in price
Not sure why so many complaints. My battery life is great and the dash charger is friggin awesome. I thought it was gimmick, but man it charges fast.
Audiophile-get the V20
Best Camera get the S7 edge (best camera and battery)
Everything else the 3T is the phone to get!!
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Any phone on the cheaper end that you'd recommend that has a good DAC? thanks
bert90987 said:
Any phone on the cheaper end that you'd recommend that has a good DAC? thanks
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ZTE Axon 7?
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ZTE Axon 7?
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That's true.
I have been thinking about getting a portable dac to use with any smartphone though. the highest impedance headphones I have are 250 ohms. they're not really portable but would be nice to try out.
Amd4life said:
I am a Android fan, so a bit biased. I have the 128gb 3T. The camera for me is always an afterthought, but the implementation is average-so.of your a big camera user get a s7 edge. The front camera works great imo. The 821 processor, device fluidity, screen quality, minimal software implementation, updates and in my case (network speed, T-Mobile-old sim card, 3.5.4) are awesome,
Bluetooth is great ( in would have preferred aptx HD like the G5 ( sound quality suffers)- but the strength is good.
The encryption is excellent, and fast (only hiccup is twrp loads slow-not a biggie though), fingerprint and pin are significantly faster than any of my other devices for less than $500.
I wish they had the V20 DAC, and a proper tempered glass protector, bit other than that this is the phone to beat for 2016- if you factor in price
Not sure why so many complaints. My battery life is great and the dash charger is friggin awesome. I thought it was gimmick, but man it charges fast.
Audiophile-get the V20
Best Camera get the S7 edge (best camera and battery)
Everything else the 3T is the phone to get!!
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I agree. For the price, this phone is really hard to beat! Like I said, I do like it, just wish I could use 3.5.3 with the LTE bands fix for T-Mobile that's in 3.5.4.
I've used multiple Android phones in the past. This has been one of the most fluid and smooth devices I have yet to use. At this point, I'm just giving it time. Hopefully the software (new OOS) does make the phone better.
Guess you can't complain when this phone is under $500.
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Axon 7 (not as smooth) $350 off swappa
LG v10 (not as smooth) $250 off Swappa
HTC 10 $400 off swappa
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Axon 7 (not as smooth) $350 off swappa
LG v10 (not as smooth) $250 off Swappa
HTC 10 $400 off swappa
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NoLunchBox_ I'm with you im expecting that problems u said.
Androis OS and android system so high, wiping cache, factory reset, trying H2O theres nothing to do.
I contacted with support RRR to ask for a replacement. And they told is for repairs.
Sincerely i dont want to give back my op3t and i dont want to see a recicled op3t, last time i did this with one plus one the motherboard was bad with a recycle one.
I cant use Adb sideload because of fails at 47% of serving.. Thats ridicolous.
People from telegram say about wiping with unbricktool maybe some partition is broken or whatever.
Stay in touch.
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NoLunchBox_ I'm with you im expecting that problems u said.
Androis OS and android system so high, wiping cache, factory reset, trying H2O theres nothing to do.
I contacted with support RRR to ask for a replacement. And they told is for repairs.
Sincerely i dont want to give back my op3t and i dont want to see a recicled op3t, last time i did this with one plus one the motherboard was bad with a recycle one.
I cant use Adb sideload because of fails at 47% of serving.. Thats ridicolous.
People from telegram say about wiping with unbricktool maybe some partition is broken or whatever.
Stay in touch.
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That sucks. hopefully you have it fixed quickly.
alvin182 said:
NoLunchBox_ I'm with you im expecting that problems u said.
Androis OS and android system so high, wiping cache, factory reset, trying H2O theres nothing to do.
I contacted with support RRR to ask for a replacement. And they told is for repairs.
Sincerely i dont want to give back my op3t and i dont want to see a recicled op3t, last time i did this with one plus one the motherboard was bad with a recycle one.
I cant use Adb sideload because of fails at 47% of serving.. Thats ridicolous.
People from telegram say about wiping with unbricktool maybe some partition is broken or whatever.
Stay in touch.
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Damn that sucks dude. Hopefully you get it fixed. Everyone's talked so highly of OnePlus before but just doesn't like a great company.
Hope you get it fixed man!
Looks like the Android N update has made my phone a lot more smooth and battery life seems to be a lot better than 3.5.4. Fingers crossed. Good thing I decided to wait it out.

How much of a concern is the battery life (specifically, SOT)?

Hello everyone!
Background (less important): So, I've been looking at getting a Oneplus phone for a while but when my last 2 phones died back to back, I got an S6 from insurance. Problem with the S6 being just about everything (no SD card expansion, no removable battery, no rooting abilities, etc). I've been keeping an eye out for the right time to get a new device and, now that my device memory is full, I'm looking at a new phone.
I was looking at picking up either the S7 or the Oneplus 3T. The S7 is under $500 on amazon, which is pretty surprising (thought it would be much more expensive), has expandable SD card support, pretty good battery, good camera, lots of RAM, etc and they just got the ability to root. It also has some cool options like medical sensor stuff, etc (not all that important, just extra bells and whistles).
However, the 3T appears to have a very active rooting/mods community, and overall, many people have said this is the best phone they've ever had so I'm leaning towards picking that up. The only downsides I've seen/heard are the camera on the 3T isn't as good (definitely not the end of the world, it's still an upgrade from my S6) and I've seen a number of battery drain threads and that genuinely concerns me. I understand that those with the issue are likely going to be a lot more vocal than those that have everything working but I was hoping to gauge how much of a concern this really is and if anyone has determined the cause of the battery drain and if there's a solution. What I don't want to do is get a developer friendly phone that dies super quick (I understand it charges fast too but I don;t want to rely on that).
Anyway, this is kind of an important decision for me as my goal is to keep a phone for 3 years so I'm looking for a phone that is pretty well future proof (for a while, I know 3 years is a long time in the technology field) and I don't want to "settle" for a phone that's going to give me nothing but headaches.
If you guys could help me understand how big of a deal the battery drain is, it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Okay here's the deal. You're posting in the Oneplus 3T forum and people are clearly going to be biased, you're lucky I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 7 and my girlfriend has an S7 Edge.
The experience you're going to get with a Samsung is far richer in features and the camera is superior. The phone just yells premium out of it's every part. The microphone will record your voice better as well.
However, if you're looking for a future proof phone the Oneplus 3T is clearly a winner. People are crying about drain and SoT simply because they're more pretentious and pay more attention to details than Samsung users. All Android phones have some sort of drain and with time, stock ROMs get more laggy and battery consuming. The advantage you have on oneplus is that you can apply all sorts of custom ROMs, kernels and mods to squeeze out the most of your battery, while on Samsung you're more prone of getting stuck with drain sooner or later.
Here's where OP3T's top card comes, dash charge is amazing. At this point I don't even care about SoT since I can charge my phone to 60% in 30m. I'm getting 4-5 hours of SoT without tweaks and 4G always on data using stock ROM. Who even wants to stick their eyes in the phone screen for more than that?
You can't go wrong with the OP3T unless you're willing to wait for the next oneplus.
Bottom line, the drain people have been experiencing on OxygenOS 4.0.3 is of little concern, especially since it's improves with Beta 12 7.1.1. Stop overthinking and get the phone you like.
Alek123 said:
Okay here's the deal. You're posting in the Oneplus 3T forum and people are clearly going to be biased, you're lucky I'm coming from a Galaxy Note 7 and my girlfriend has an S7 Edge.
The experience you're going to get with a Samsung is far richer in features and the camera is superior. The phone just yells premium out of it's every part. The microphone will record your voice better as well.
However, if you're looking for a future proof phone the Oneplus 3T is clearly a winner. People are crying about drain and SoT simply because they're more pretentious and pay more attention to details than Samsung users. All Android phones have some sort of drain and with time, stock ROMs get more laggy and battery consuming. The advantage you have on oneplus is that you can apply all sorts of custom ROMs, kernels and mods to squeeze out the most of your battery, while on Samsung you're more prone of getting stuck with drain sooner or later.
Here's where OP3T's top card comes, dash charge is amazing. At this point I don't even care about SoT since I can charge my phone to 60% in 30m. I'm getting 4-5 hours of SoT without tweaks and 4G always on data using stock ROM. Who even wants to stick their eyes in the phone screen for more than that?
You can't go wrong with the OP3T unless you're willing to wait for the next oneplus.
Bottom line, the drain people have been experiencing on OxygenOS 4.0.3 is of little concern, especially since it's improves with Beta 12 7.1.1. Stop overthinking and get the phone you like.
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So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
jbrookley said:
So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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I think that that's what he wants to tell you. To myself : I have the 3T since yesterday and since I'm coming from a M8 it's a huge upgrade for me. But for your comparison : my brother has the S7 and plenty of my friends have the S7E. S7E is in my opinion a superior phone in terms of camera, mic, display, waterproof .. etc. All the things that make the S7/E more superior is only because Sammy has done a better job, BUT what they didn't was to make the phone future proof. The thing with OP3T is that it also does/contains all of the superior things, it's just not that good. The camera is fine for me, I don't care about waterproofness, a 2K display is nice but you won't notice the difference anyway except for the brightness if you compare them both side by side. I'm pretty sure I've made my point.
Now for the 3T's battery drain : I was still on OxygenOS 3.5.4 because I didn't felt the urge to update. Woke up at 7 AM and plugged it out, somewhere between 10 - 11 AM I was on something like 27 percent. It was somehow strange but ok. Now that I couldn't resist to flash CM13 I've noticed a HUGE difference. I flashed CM13 at around 5 PM while I was charging it (was at 90% at 5PM) and now after 4h of using it I'm at 68%. Huge differnce no doubt and I'm staying at CM13.
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talpes said:
I think that that's what he wants to tell you. To myself : I have the 3T since yesterday and since I'm coming from a M8 it's a huge upgrade for me. But for your comparison : my brother has the S7 and plenty of my friends have the S7E. S7E is in my opinion a superior phone in terms of camera, mic, display, waterproof .. etc. All the things that make the S7/E more superior is only because Sammy has done a better job, BUT what they didn't was to make the phone future proof. The thing with OP3T is that it also does/contains all of the superior things, it's just not that good. The camera is fine for me, I don't care about waterproofness, a 2K display is nice but you won't notice the difference anyway except for the brightness if you compare them both side by side. I'm pretty sure I've made my point.
Now for the 3T's battery drain : I was still on OxygenOS 3.5.4 because I didn't felt the urge to update. Woke up at 7 AM and plugged it out, somewhere between 10 - 11 AM I was on something like 27 percent. It was somehow strange but ok. Now that I couldn't resist to flash CM13 I've noticed a HUGE difference. I flashed CM13 at around 5 PM while I was charging it (was at 90% at 5PM) and now after 4h of using it I'm at 68%. Huge differnce no doubt and I'm staying at CM13.
Hope I could help you
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Thanks for the advice, particularly about the future proofing. I honestly don't get why Samsung hasn't moved to a USB C connector yet . . . Seems like a no brainer, that's clearly the direction everything is heading.
jbrookley said:
So just to be clear, you're saying that the battery drain people are experiencing is likely related to a version/rom/etc that they are using and they're too lazy to try different things to try and optimize it but even if I am that lazy, the dash charge still works well enough that it shouldn't be an issue for most people (assuming you're near a charging socket), is that a pretty good synopsis?
Just want to understand if you believe the issue is user error (not using the right software components/settings), user pickiness (IE they're perceiving a problem that's not really there) or if there are the occasional phone that experiences battery issues but it's a very small number.
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Yeah, that's my opinion based on experience as a former Oneplus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and current Oneplus 3T user. People mostly started complaining about drain with OOS4.0.3 (latest current stock) and it will definitely be fixed with OOS nougat 7.1.1. This "battery drain" stigma that you're currently placing on the OP3T has been placed on all major flagships at some point. I can't be certain how well this device will be officially updated in the future, or how the battery will hold up after many many cycles, but i can assure you it will hold up better than an S7.
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Thanks for the advice, particularly about the future proofing. I honestly don't get why Samsung hasn't moved to a USB C connector yet . . . Seems like a no brainer, that's clearly the direction everything is heading.
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They did have USB-C on the Note 7. At the point of S7 launch it wasn't that widespread.
Alek123 said:
Yeah, that's my opinion based on experience as a former Oneplus One, Samsung Galaxy Note 7 and current Oneplus 3T user. People mostly started complaining about drain with OOS4.0.3 (latest current stock) and it will definitely be fixed with OOS nougat 7.1.1. This "battery drain" stigma that you're currently placing on the OP3T has been placed on all major flagships at some point. I can't be certain how well this device will be officially updated in the future, or how the battery will hold up after many many cycles, but i can assure you it will hold up better than an S7.
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I'm actually really glad you mentioned that because, you're right, I have definitely experienced various stages of battery drain between updates on Samsung devices except I didn't get to choose when or if I wanted to update with those. At least I'll now be in control of those things! Made up my mind, ordering the Oneplus 3T now! Thanks!
jbrookley said:
I'm actually really glad you mentioned that because, you're right, I have definitely experienced various stages of battery drain between updates on Samsung devices except I didn't get to choose when or if I wanted to update with those. At least I'll now be in control of those things! Made up my mind, ordering the Oneplus 3T now! Thanks!
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I am certain you won't regret getting this device. Let me know if you need any help or have any more questions via PM.
6-7 hour of sot per charge every 22-28 hours.
technology is weird. people can get battery drains for all kinds of reasons. google services may be a reason. or some wakelock by some random app that never was a problem, but after installing it on a certain rom on a certain phone it suddenly is a problem. and weirdly enough you are the only one experiencing it. it might be something with the rom where a factory reset may help. some people go ahead and flash another rom and then it is gone. sometimes they make the wrong conclusion that it is the roms fault. or the kernels or whatever. it happens on every phone. just go to a random phones forum and you will find threads with people complaining about battery drain. and they will be the only ones with this particular issue. the vast majority of users does not have such issues. if they do you will find out about it soon enough and after some time there will be an update that fixes it.
my sot is around 5 hours depending on what i do. using media like movies gives you more screen time, heavy gaming gives you less screen time.

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