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I have missed my nexus 5 ever since i gave it up for the s5 and now the g4.
Anybody else gonna switch when the new nexus comes out?
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I have missed my nexus 5 ever since i gave it up for the s5 and now the g4.
Anybody else gonna switch when the new nexus comes out?
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Just my 2 cents worth, but I would actually wait until the Sprint update ZV6 (releasing now), see if it fixes the lag/touch and other issues we are experiencing. I am confident we will eventually have an unlocked bootloader, but as long as we don't lose our root method -it really isn't required since i'd rather run a stock modified anyway (for myself at least).
Rumors show it to be less of a phone than the G4. If it was equal I would have considered it.
Smaller Screen, no rear buttons, no laser focus, no spectrum analyzer, no SD card, lower res camera, less RAM, Non removable battery.
It does add two tone flash like HTC phones (better white balance). But I love what G4 does in that space, Auto White Balance is amazing on G4.
G4 doesn't feel like a phablet, but has the screen of one.
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Just my 2 cents worth, but I would actually wait until the Sprint update ZV6 (releasing now), see if it fixes the lag/touch and other issues we are experiencing. I am confident we will eventually have an unlocked bootloader, but as long as we don't lose our root method -it really isn't required since i'd rather run a stock modified anyway (for myself at least).
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I don't feel lag/touch. However I did HAVE to remove my screen protector, that was definitely messing it up (never happened on any phone prior). The phone feels zipper than my HTC M9.
I'm not confident at all we'll get an unlocked bootloader. I think carriers won't allow it. Just like Verizon blocks unlockable HTC phones. Things are moving towards more lockdown, not away.
Might see it on T-Mobile or something.
Also I looked at the unlock procedure for the European models. First step is enter Bootloader. I can't, it zips right past it. Maybe I'm doing something dumb.
Also I'm not saying an update would allow entering the bootloader.
Someone also posted a chat with LG on this topic that there is some technical reason it's not possible to do on the non European models. That's might be B.S.
mswlogo said:
Rumors show it to be less of a phone than the G4. If it was equal I would have considered it.
Smaller Screen, no rear buttons, no laser focus, no spectrum analyzer, no SD card, lower res camera, less RAM, Non removable battery.
It does add two tone flash like HTC phones (better white balance). But I love what G4 does in that space, Auto White Balance is amazing on G4.
G4 doesn't feel like a phablet, but has the screen of one.
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I don't feel lag/touch. However I did HAVE to remove my screen protector, that was definitely messing it up (never happened on any phone prior). The phone feels zipper than my HTC M9.
I'm not confident at all we'll get an unlocked bootloader. I think carriers won't allow it. Just like Verizon blocks unlockable HTC phones. Things are moving towards more lockdown, not away.
Might see it on T-Mobile or something.
Also I looked at the unlock procedure for the European models. First step is enter Bootloader. I can't, it zips right past it. Maybe I'm doing something dumb.
Also I'm not saying an update would allow entering the bootloader.
Someone also posted a chat with LG on this topic that there is some technical reason it's not possible to do on the non European models. That's might be B.S.[/QUO
Yeah im not very confident we will see a bootloader unlock, if they would have let us unlock it from the get go we would have fantastic aosp roms already, i willing to take the compromise of a nexus in lieu of stock android and bootloader unlock right out of the box.
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I am confident we will eventually have an unlocked bootloader, but as long as we don't lose our root method -it really isn't required since i'd rather run a stock modified anyway (for myself at least).
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Even if all the US carriers allowed the bootloader to be unlocked this instance without voiding your warranty it still would not matter. There doesn't seem to be that much interest with this phone in the modding/dev community. I doubt that will change because everyone is always waiting/looking out for the next big thing is it is doubt we will see a surge this late after it is released.
I am just keeping this phone to get used to the fact that rooting and modding phone is going to get increasingly difficult as time goes on. The good days are over
Really wish the One Plus One would give non-gsm some love.
We may never get an official unlock, i bet there will be a workaround of some sort just like the G, G2, G3. If not, this would be the first G series that doesn't get a recovery workaround. I've been working on the LG series from the start, not giving up now.
Just waiting on the new ZV6 update. We should also have M being their flagship.
My last phone was a Nexus 5 and I prefer the G4. The battery life is just way better and my extra batteries makes it sweeter. I do wish G4 has vanilla android, but the G4 is good enough.
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Even if all the US carriers allowed the bootloader to be unlocked this instance without voiding your warranty it still would not matter. There doesn't seem to be that much interest with this phone in the modding/dev community. I doubt that will change because everyone is always waiting/looking out for the next big thing is it is doubt we will see a surge this late after it is released.
I am just keeping this phone to get used to the fact that rooting and modding phone is going to get increasingly difficult as time goes on. The good days are over
Really wish the One Plus One would give non-gsm some love.
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I agree, most developers have chosen their phone for the season.
I had an HTC M9, just got it replaced and gave it to my wife. I really looked carefully (Spent way to much time). But this is one awesome phone. Assuming I don't run into reliability issues some folks have.
I see quite a few regrets in the XDA Samsung Forums which I monitored closely.
One plus about how we are rooted is, it won't void warranty (you can get it back to pure stock). Samsung you are screwed if you have an issue.
HTC you can relock and most techs won't care if it's relocked. If the tech saw S-Off on an HTC and knew what it was (some do) you'd be screwed.
I just used Ut-Oh to replace my M9 that had S-Off, so that's another plus.
Will be curious what HTC's next phone looks like. It has quite a distance to catch up. I'd much rather have wireless charging than a solid metal body.
I came from a S6 Edge 64gb which I got bored with and gave to my wife and got this phone. I think this phone is awesome. The S6 Edge doesn't have anything on this!
SD card support with removable battery were huge factors! The only downside is the locked bootloader with no TWRP support
So I am looking to purchase a refurb G4 (or Note 4) for T-Mobile as I'm moving away from Verizon and wondering just how bad and the likelyhood of the boot loop issue actually happening on the G4 at this point? Anything I should ask the seller that might indicate the refurb G4 will be less likely to have the boot loop issue occur?
Thanks for any info in advance. Much appreciated.
So i just gotbmy phone back from lg. It bootlooped. Bought on ebay so had no reciept. I filled out form on lg site and sent phone in. Got it back it about 10 days total. Phone i sent them had bootloader unlocked which it said on boot screen in top corner but it didnt seem to matter as they fixed it anyway. Only problem i heard is if it has physical damage like a cracked screen they will not repair phone. Mine was a version 1 built 06/2015 this seems to be the biggest g4 with bootloop issue
Thanks for the quick response. Just wondering does the G4 have the same overheat issue like the G3 has? Like does your G4 get warm around the back when doing a moderate amount of activity like say checking Facebook and using Bluetooth to listen to music?
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Thanks for the quick response. Just wondering does the G4 have the same overheat issue like the G3 has? Like does your G4 get warm around the back when doing a moderate amount of activity like say checking Facebook and using Bluetooth to listen to music?
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yes it gets hot like in the top like behind camera.. and the most recent G4 i heard of bootloop was 604
this is the first 3 digits of serial number... 604 means .. 6 year 201(6) and 04 its month april... so 604 means april 2016...
try getting from 6XX the higher the better i think..it was supposed to be fixed since 510 but they still bootloop..
so as long as you have warranty and to be in the safe side a locked bootloader...
no using bluetooth doesnt get that hot only when doing facebook app. and other stuff.. recording seems to get hot...
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yes it gets hot like in the top like behind camera.. and the most recent G4 i heard of bootloop was 604
this is the first 3 digits of serial number... 604 means .. 6 year 201(6) and 04 its month april... so 604 means april 2016...
try getting from 6XX the higher the better i think..it was supposed to be fixed since 510 but they still bootloop..
so as long as you have warranty and to be in the safe side a locked bootloader...
no using bluetooth doesnt get that hot only when doing facebook app. and other stuff.. recording seems to get hot...
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Thanks so much for the tip on the serial number. I sent off an e-mail asking the company I might purchase the G4 from if they got any with the serial number starting with 6. From what was mentioned earlier in this thread and a few other mentions it seems like LG isn't being picky on the bootloader being locked/unlocked when it comes to fixing this let alone if the phone is in warranty.
Just trying to debate between getting a refurbished G4 or Note 4 so this might help me sway towards the G4.
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Thanks so much for the tip on the serial number. I sent off an e-mail asking the company I might purchase the G4 from if they got any with the serial number starting with 6. From what was mentioned earlier in this thread and a few other mentions it seems like LG isn't being picky on the bootloader being locked/unlocked when it comes to fixing this let alone if the phone is in warranty.
Just trying to debate between getting a refurbished G4 or Note 4 so this might help me sway towards the G4.
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well i just unlocked mine yesterday.. and yeah try getting the higher number the better 6XX. good luck..
Not sure how to check for model number, us that in the Fastboot?
Just chiming in to say my girlfriend's lasted maybe 3 months and died in the boot loop. No amount of factory resetting could get it to stop and had to send it back to LG. Just got her "new" one back a couple ago ago, so we'll see how this one fairs. Not particularly happy with the G4 so far compared to how good the G2 was.
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I replaced my D851 with an H811 about 6 months ago (602 serial #). I use it outdoors with an air temperature of > 110°F. I set an alarm for 125°F and it was going off frequently. So far so good, no bootloop even with the high temps. My Samsung S4 shuts down under similar circumstances. My LG Marquee died a few years ago due to the heat. I can't deny others have had issues but my G4 rocks.
Hey I'd like to know the best way to make my G4 bootloop. I've already had a past G4 replaced due to the bootloop issue with Sprint and just recently people are getting their G4's replaced with newer phones if they bootloop. Now this replacement phone already had a screen issue giving me horizontal grid-like lines underneath the glass and I've about had it with LG's crap. I want to induce a bootloop because a Sprint representative said that would be the only way to do so.
Nuke the bootloader. Theres a post around here somewhere about zeroing out the aboot or something
Honestly the funniest thread I've seen on this forum in a long time. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Nuke the bootloader. Theres a post around here somewhere about zeroing out the aboot or something
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Can you link me to that post?
Lets keep the comedy going
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708466
Hey i may be wrong here but whats the worst that can hppen u brick your phone.
Are u rooted if you are just delete a load of system files delete it all
If ure on zvb try to flash zv6 firmware i heard it bricks
Best way to get a free g5 or HTC 10. Break the device and have the g4 replaced by insurance for as long as they are swapping people out to those models.
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Best way to get a free g5 or HTC 10. Break the device and have the g4 replaced by insurance for as long as they are swapping people out to those models.
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Well, not free. Still $150 for deductible.
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Lets keep the comedy going
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708466
Hey i may be wrong here but whats the worst that can hppen u brick your phone.
Are u rooted if you are just delete a load of system files delete it all
If ure on zvb try to flash zv6 firmware i heard it bricks
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erasing laf did not seem to have any effect and flashing zv6 on top of zvb is not possible lgup will refuse. even if you somehow force zv6 ROM via dd, you should always beable to go in to download mode and reflash with LGUP or LG Flash tool. or am i missing something? I do not think there is a software method to hardbrick this phone on purpose?
I dd systemZV6.img and phone will get stuck in LG logo screen. But if I put it in download mode and LGUP ZVB image it's back up and running
Who is it doing the replacing?
If it's LG sending out G5s or V10s when you send in a bootloop G4, then I'll let you know if it's true or not since my LG G4 started to bootloop as per the known defect and I sent it in for warranty replacement. Though it's been two weeks as of tomorrow and they still haven't updated the status of my claim since receiving my phone.
If it's supposedly Sprint replacing the phone with a newer phone, I find that hard to believe since they told me to go through LG if I didn't want to pay the insurance deductible because the bootloop from hardware defect is being handled by LG directly.
Either way, as soon as I receive a replacement device, I'll post an update to this reply to let you know what happened.
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I can confirm that LG will not replace the phone with anything newer. I just spoke to someone at the warranty and repair center for LG and they're replacing the mainboard, flashing a factory image, running it through a battery of tests, and shipping it back out to arrive in 5-7 days.
I wouldn't get your hopes up about Sprint replacing it with something new this late in the bootloop game as their early upgrade and exchange offers have all ended for the LG G4. Unless it was the retention department of customer care, they're probably not giving out any replacements of a different model.
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Who is it doing the replacing?
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Based on what seems like tons of reports from XDA and the LGG4 sub-reddit, it is Sprint stores that are exchanging boot-looped G4s for newer devices. I'm also interested in inducing a bootloop for this reason, and am running a looping CPU stress test app to get the phone nice and toasty for a sustained period of time (days). I will report back if I have any luck!
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Based on what seems like tons of reports from XDA and the LGG4 sub-reddit, it is Sprint stores that are exchanging boot-looped G4s for newer devices. I'm also interested in inducing a bootloop for this reason, and am running a looping CPU stress test app to get the phone nice and toasty for a sustained period of time (days). I will report back if I have any luck!
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I'd be careful with that. From what I understand, Sprint isn't doing that anymore and they tell you to go through LG. I just got mine back from LG literally 8 minutes ago after waiting almost a month.
Though they did replace more than the main board, which was nice. They replaced the front bezel, screen and digitizer as well. Except for the battery and battery backing (you don't send those with it) they basically gave me a whole new, thoroughly quality controlled, G4. I think the display was upgraded in some way though, because the sticker covering the screen was different than when I bought my G4 originally. It says "Quantum IPS Display", where it didn't on the first one. I haven't seen my g4 in over a month so I can't say whether it looks more vibrant like they say, though.
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What firmware did they ship it with? I'm still rooted on ZV6 and don't want anything newer if I send it in.
I can verify that Sprint is not exchanging these phones out with newer or different models/brands. My phone just slowed to a crawl and then stopped functioning and when rebooted stayed at the LG Life is Good boot screen. This happened only 2 days ago, 3 weeks after my sister's exact same phone/model did the same thing. I had to lay down the "I've been a loyal customer for x years" line on them just to push my upgrade up so I could buy a new phone (HTC 10 here I come). I will however send this phone in to be repaired, but I doubt I will buy another LG phone again after this issue.
new idea for bootloop
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I can verify that Sprint is not exchanging these phones out with newer or different models/brands. My phone just slowed to a crawl and then stopped functioning and when rebooted stayed at the LG Life is Good boot screen. This happened only 2 days ago, 3 weeks after my sister's exact same phone/model did the same thing. I had to lay down the "I've been a loyal customer for x years" line on them just to push my upgrade up so I could buy a new phone (HTC 10 here I come). I will however send this phone in to be repaired, but I doubt I will buy another LG phone again after this issue.
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My phone has dead because bootloop but i leave it in to fridge (supercooled) my phone frezee but i open it and it not bootloop. wow amazing revival.
straightway i think need close chip A57 (dead chip) by app Knel toolkit (pls search google) . now time it working normal.
but app knel toolkit problem stop working if you use phone alo app and hang on app.
i have new idea.
1st: why not use editor new build prop not use chip A57 at boot startup.
2: write good app for close chip A57 (Knel toolkit stop working if you hang on app.. and A57 working again to errno your phone)
my video revival my phone facebook ..../ntientuan/videos/951862408255600/
Will an induced bootloop work for the warranty replacement, or will they only fix it if it has the actual defect?
Please help me, how can I root my LG G4? Version is ZVF. What I need to do to successfully root my device? Thanks
nov0 said:
Please help me, how can I root my LG G4? Version is ZVF. What I need to do to successfully root my device? Thanks
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there is not root no downgrade without hard brick and no fix for said hard brick only method to root is to get another phone
TheMadScientist420 said:
there is not root no downgrade without hard brick and no fix for said hard brick only method to root is to get another phone
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I came here with the same question as the OP. What is the deal with the LG G4 and rooting? I've had this phone for two years now and not once has there been a root option for it. I've never had this issue with any devices I have owned previously. And I'd hate to have to buy a new device just so I can finally have control over what I own. Especially since I just paid off this one. Sorry for my frustration nothing personal to you but I'd really like to know why we don't and never have had a root available.
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I came here with the same question as the OP. What is the deal with the LG G4 and rooting? I've had this phone for two years now and not once has there been a root option for it. I've never had this issue with any devices I have owned previously. And I'd hate to have to buy a new device just so I can finally have control over what I own. Especially since I just paid off this one. Sorry for my frustration nothing personal to you but I'd really like to know why we don't and never have had a root available.
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Cant root mm without a unlocked bootloader because to root mm u have to modify the kernal which messes with the secure boot chain. And gives secure boot errors.
Anti roll back prevents u from downgrading to a rootable version. Making hard bricks. Its sad but true. U need a diffrent device to root.
I actually put my g4 up again. Its having some issue
Im sure a really good dev like chainfire or someone of that knowlege could root it but theyve all moved on to more worthy devices
The g4 died well becore its time.
Only reason i got root is mine never bootlooped. And at the rates its goin never will.
Ive atempted so many diffrent methods and ideas to root mm on emulated mm roms on pc. Nothing.
Ive atempted some many methods of downgrading and nothing but bricks. Never boots. Always boot errors. I wish i could update. Being stuck on lolipop with no hope for mm or nougat if i want root.
But again. It is most def better to get a root friendly phone
Had I know this was going to be the outcome I would have gone with something else maybe even waited longer to upgrade. I bought this one on the promise it was rootable with a matter of time. I won't do that again. I simply can't afford to spend $500+ every two years to make sure I have a rootable phone when it should have that control stock. Just hidden toggle for it so morons don't do stupid stuff.
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Had I know this was going to be the outcome I would have gone with something else maybe even waited longer to upgrade. I bought this one on the promise it was rootable with a matter of time. I won't do that again. I simply can't afford to spend $500+ every two years to make sure I have a rootable phone when it should have that control stock. Just hidden toggle for it so morons don't do stupid stuff.
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i know its dumb i learned a valuble lesson in the g4 one dont buy the newest unless its confirmed rootable.
and 2 do my research and make sure what i want to purchase is rootable.
i know how u guys feel now my g4 is about dead i just like skulking around the threads still
i got mad and threw it. busted and bent almost in half.
well i put a old cracked lcd on it i dont have wifi any more thn 5 foot from my router.
my earpiece is dead. ir ports gone. rear camera also but it still makes and recieves calls and data
i got a zte max x 2 i think it is but im in the same boat crippled fastboot and bootloader
on mm with absolutly no root in sight no stock firmwares to fix it even if i brick it in testingroot methods
Hi!
Still no luck in rooting ZVF? :/
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Hi!
Still no luck in rooting ZVF? :/
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no this is one of those things id put my g4 on a shelf and get a rootable device i know easier said than done but will save u a lot of headache if u quit on it now
this thing prob wont be rooted anytime soon
ive tried everything i know and ofcoarse all in sdk simulation and all leads to hard bricks
it sucks i have mines still on zv6 rooted but the mother board is damaged and i have very little wifi signal and no mi crophone
ive tried to update a zv6 rom into thinking its zvb and higher but no luck anywhere
im def no developper but i really dont think the real devs even trying to do anything with this device which i cant blame them moved on to better devices
It sucks. I have been using my g4 for two years and am pretty happy and dont have plans to upgrade, since newer phones do not offer much as compared to g4. I was hoping that someone will eventually find a way to root it again, whats wrong with people, no one has time to make this happen?
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It sucks. I have been using my g4 for two years and am pretty happy and dont have plans to upgrade, since newer phones do not offer much as compared to g4. I was hoping that someone will eventually find a way to root it again, whats wrong with people, no one has time to make this happen?
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Nothing to do with time It has been tried and tried again Its lg and sprints locked bootloaders and anti rollback to rollback to rootable versions
Hello everyone,
I hope everyone is doing well! I signed up with the forums because I have questions about three devices I have and was hoping to get some help on them. I know that there are separate forums for each devices, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to give an overview here as well.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (AT&T), an Insignia Flex 11", and just recently received an AT&T Radiant Core (if I am correct, an AT&T-branded ZTE Radiant smartphone)
I have the Galaxy Note 3 because I bought it some years back when AT&T was still supporting the 3G network. The Radiant Core was mailed to me by AT&T because the 3G network will be shut down soon, and the Insignia was purchased on a lark.
I'd like to root all three, but the more I research, the more unlikely this seems. I haven't really tried anything with the Samsung just yet, but the Insignia doesn't have much out there on it besides dead links. It appears there was an app called Bin4ry that could root the system, but all the links I've found are dead.
As for the Radiant, I would like that rooted soon since I have been doing nothing but charging it since I received it. My Samsung will be disconnected from the network in about a week, and the Radiant will be activated. As a result, I'd like the phone to be ready (or bricked) soon. I've read, however, that network-branded phones are generally not worth the trouble of rooting if it can be done at all. I haven't seen much in the way of boot.img or recovery.img files for this phone, either. Perhaps it's not worth it?
As for why I would like to root, well, the Samsung has been a good small-screen media consumption device, but there are just too many pre-installed apps taking up space that I can't get rid of, including discontinued Samsung apps that are never going to be used. The Insignia doesn't have much on it, but it has a nice big screen and it came with a keyboard, so I'd like to experiment with it a bit. The Radiant is brand new and has not been used, so if I'm going to root it, I'd like to do it before using it for anything.
So! That's my story. If anyone can offer advice, I'd appreciate it. Thank you!
ParboiledUser said:
Hello everyone,
I hope everyone is doing well! I signed up with the forums because I have questions about three devices I have and was hoping to get some help on them. I know that there are separate forums for each devices, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to give an overview here as well.
I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (AT&T), an Insignia Flex 11", and just recently received an AT&T Radiant Core (if I am correct, an AT&T-branded ZTE Radiant smartphone)
I have the Galaxy Note 3 because I bought it some years back when AT&T was still supporting the 3G network. The Radiant Core was mailed to me by AT&T because the 3G network will be shut down soon, and the Insignia was purchased on a lark.
I'd like to root all three, but the more I research, the more unlikely this seems. I haven't really tried anything with the Samsung just yet, but the Insignia doesn't have much out there on it besides dead links. It appears there was an app called Bin4ry that could root the system, but all the links I've found are dead.
As for the Radiant, I would like that rooted soon since I have been doing nothing but charging it since I received it. My Samsung will be disconnected from the network in about a week, and the Radiant will be activated. As a result, I'd like the phone to be ready (or bricked) soon. I've read, however, that network-branded phones are generally not worth the trouble of rooting if it can be done at all. I haven't seen much in the way of boot.img or recovery.img files for this phone, either. Perhaps it's not worth it?
As for why I would like to root, well, the Samsung has been a good small-screen media consumption device, but there are just too many pre-installed apps taking up space that I can't get rid of, including discontinued Samsung apps that are never going to be used. The Insignia doesn't have much on it, but it has a nice big screen and it came with a keyboard, so I'd like to experiment with it a bit. The Radiant is brand new and has not been used, so if I'm going to root it, I'd like to do it before using it for anything.
So! That's my story. If anyone can offer advice, I'd appreciate it. Thank you!
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Welcome to XDA
Have a deep search on your devices sections, sure it has been discussed before.
Good luck
orb3000 said:
Welcome to XDA
Have a deep search on your devices sections, sure it has been discussed before.
Good luck
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Thank you!