Hey y'all! Just curious if the Moto X updates it's bootloader every time it gets OTA updates? I recently was gifted a Verizon Moto X which originally ran Jelly Bean and OTA'ed up to Lollipop. It's no secret that Motorola has no intention provided further updates–and it's widely known that Verizon phones are notorious when it comes to bootloader's. I'm looking to attempt running sunshine after rooting, but I'd just like some community feedback before I take on this little guy! Thanks in advance!
brookemels said:
Hey y'all! Just curious if the Moto X updates it's bootloader every time it gets OTA updates? I recently was gifted a Verizon Moto X which originally ran Jelly Bean and OTA'ed up to Lollipop. It's no secret that Motorola has no intention provided further updates–and it's widely known that Verizon phones are notorious when it comes to bootloader's. I'm looking to attempt running sunshine after rooting, but I'd just like some community feedback before I take on this little guy! Thanks in advance!
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Not all Verizon OTAs update the bootloader, but some do. Depending on which version of the MotoX you have, sunshine may not work. My wife has a MotoX 2013, and had we sunshined it *before* she updated to lollipop, all would have been fine. But we didn't, so now she gets no bootloader unlock love.
You can always check with Sunshine's support chat folks to see if your phone is unlockable.
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i know our Verizon XT060 has not gotten the 4.4.3 update yet would anyone know when? (only sprint and t-mobile) but since we dont even have root for 4.4.2 ,should i update it to 4.4.3 with promises of root eventually? or should i stay on 4.4.2 and wait for that root. we all heard that 4.4.3 and up will have root problems so is it even worth it?
Trozzul said:
i know our Verizon XT060 has not gotten the 4.4.3 update yet would anyone know when? (only sprint and t-mobile) but since we dont even have root for 4.4.2 ,should i update it to 4.4.3 with promises of root eventually? or should i stay on 4.4.2 and wait for that root. we all heard that 4.4.3 and up will have root problems so is it even worth it?
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The new root exploit for 4.4.2 has been released. You'll find info in the "original android development" section. The exploit is PATCHED in 4.4.3
If you update, you will not be able to use the new root exploit. There is no promise that there will EVER be another exploit. If possible, you should pursue a bootloader unlock.
The "root problems" for 4.4.3 have been fixed by the latest version of SuperSU....so long as the developer of the root apps you are using has implemented the new methods. But you will ONLY achieve root on 4.4.3 with unlocked BL.
Good Luck.
P.S. Sprint Moto X users have NOT received an update yet....not even a SOAK test. Only the T-Mobile variant has received it, and you shouldn't consider it a final release. As with all "soak" tests, the idea is to identify any issues so they can be fixed, BEFORE the official OTA is released.
The official OTA will likely have updates not yet included in the current SOAK test 4.4.3.
Well, only Nexus and GPE devices even have 4.4.3 right now, and the T-Mo update is only in testing, so I don't know why you didn't wait at least until the T-Mo version got the OTA, and then probably another week or two before asking when the update may come. Do people really have that little patience that they can't wait 2 weeks after it goes to AOSP and Nexus phones before asking about when an update will come? It'll be released when Moto, Google, Lenovo, and VZW deem it to be ready and not a moment sooner.
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imnuts said:
Well, only Nexus and GPE devices even have 4.4.3 right now, and the T-Mo update is only in testing, so I don't know why you didn't wait at least until the T-Mo version got the OTA, and then probably another week or two before asking when the update may come. Do people really have that little patience that they can't wait 2 weeks after it goes to AOSP and Nexus phones before asking about when an update will come? It'll be released when Moto, Google, Lenovo, and VZW deem it to be ready and not a moment sooner.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-4-4-3-rolling-out-to-moto-x-e-and-g-starting-today/ :/ i have it on my moto g already, i have plenty of Patience, you cant blame people for being excited.
I am currently rooted running Android 4.4 on my XT1060 with a locked bootloader. Can I upgrade to a newer version of android and keep root?
bobo-the-drunk said:
I am currently rooted running Android 4.4 on my XT1060 with a locked bootloader. Can I upgrade to a newer version of android and keep root?
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The short answer is no. You can not update past 4.4 and have permanent root and write-protect-disable.
The LONG answer is that IF (and only if) you never took the OTA to 4.4.2, there IS a way to run a "Stock-based, Safestrap-compatible 4.4.2 ROM".
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/rom-vzw-rooted-4-4-2-locked-bootloaders-t2672840
You will have to follow the instructions linked in that post EXACTLY. One simple mistake, and you will either:
1. Have a BRICK
or
2. Lose write-protect-disable and permanent root -forever-
Be extremely careful if you decide to do this, and realize that you won't -actually- be on 4.4.2 as you will still be running on the pre-4.4.2 bootloader and gpt.bin.
Good Luck
That's exactly what I wanted to know! Thanks for the speedy response. Hopefully with 4.4.4 coming out soon, someone will find a way to unlock the non-developer Moto X bootloader and give non-Google/Motorola developers real access to this great device!
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That's exactly what I wanted to know! Thanks for the speedy response. Hopefully with 4.4.4 coming out soon, someone will find a way to unlock the non-developer Moto X bootloader and give non-Google/Motorola developers real access to this great device!
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You might want to consider checking the thread titled "China Middleman Back?"
This guy is selling bootloader unlock codes for the locked variants including verizon. It is Extremely unlikely that a bootloader-unlock exploit will EVER come along for the X....like 99.99% unlikely. Dan Rosenburg, author the the famous "Razr M bootloader exploit" has said himself that chances are almost zero that anyone will ever exploit these extremely well-coded bootloaders.
The China method costs $45, and he may or may not have your code, but its worth a shot! If he doesn't have your code, you get refunded. So no risk really. The bootloader-unlock is permanent and is FAR superior to using these exploits and safestrap-roms.
Good Luck, glad to help.
Ive got a carrier edition moto x (rogers) and want to convert it to the developer or tmobile version so I can get updates from motorola vs waiting forever...
Ive searched and cannot find the relevant info.
ive only rooted nexus devices this far.
End result im looking for is a unrooted device that can receive OTA updates from motorola
Appreciate any help
jeetS said:
Ive got a carrier edition moto x (rogers) and want to convert it to the developer or tmobile version so I can get updates from motorola vs waiting forever...
Ive searched and cannot find the relevant info.
ive only rooted nexus devices this far.
End result im looking for is a unrooted device that can receive OTA updates from motorola
Appreciate any help
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All Devices receive their updates direct from Moto....
Even if you do this, you still won't be the first to get updates. Almost every update so far has been "staggered" amongst the different carriers. One carrier got KK first, one got 4.4.3 first, VZW got 4.4.4 first....
Rogers WILL be on 4.4.4 very soon...
Is it just me or has Moto never rolled out 4.4.4 to the unlocked GSM editions? My mom bought an unlocked phone straight from Motorola and yet she's still on 4.4.3. We're using the phone on T-Mobile if that makes a difference.
ryukiri said:
Is it just me or has Moto never rolled out 4.4.4 to the unlocked GSM editions? My mom bought an unlocked phone straight from Motorola and yet she's still on 4.4.3. We're using the phone on T-Mobile if that makes a difference.
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It's not just you. T mobile version got 4.4.3. A bug was found after they started rolling it out, so they fixed it for the other models (that's the main difference between 4.4.3 and 4.4.4). Most of the other features/upgrades were included in 4.4.3, so they didn't make updating the t-mobile edition a priority. It'll probably get it after they finish all of the others are done unless android L is ready to go by then, in which case, it'll probably just get that.
Moto X 4.4.4 Official T-Mobile Firmware
My Moto X got messed up after some rooting and flashing...
I would like to request the official T-Mobile US firmware on sbf.droid-developers.
Thanks a bunch!
zrutichun said:
My Moto X got messed up after some rooting and flashing...
I would like to request the official T-Mobile US firmware on sbf.droid-developers.
Thanks a bunch!
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far as i know its not available YET...
The T-Mobile 4.4.3 sbf is available:
Moto Firmwares
Oops, looks like the site is down.
I got 4.4.4 just a week ago on Dev Edition
I got 4.4.4 just a week ago on Dev Edition, although its not TMobile,
So might be possible, yours on the way.:good:
4.4.4 for t-mobile version (any XT1053 model) was delivered a couple of weeks ago. Go to settings/about phone/system updates and you should update if you have a factory phone - if you have unlocked or rooted, go back to factory spec before trying to update.
Hello,
I can't find a thread on any information about a Motorola rom lollipop update for OG Moto X. Did I miss it, or is there really no news about it? Google really isn't helping here, it's a mix of Moto X 2014 information and news reports that say it's happening from the beginning of November.
Thanks :good:
I just asked an agent of Moto. He said that the update might be available within 10 days.
However, Moto hasnt officially given any information....
Who knows? So glad I forked out the extra cash for a "developer edition". Kinda thought timely updates would be included lol.
Lollipop source came out about a month and a half ago, the 2nd gen Moto X and G are still the only phone outside of Nexus and GPE that has a wide rollout of Lollipop. Given that the Droid Turbo is getting updated soon, I'd guess the 2013 phones will be getting updated at the end of December or sometime in January, still ahead of most other devices, and before anything else from last year. People need to learn WTF patience is.
Sent from my Moto X
hlaalu said:
Who knows? So glad I forked out the extra cash for a "developer edition". Kinda thought timely updates would be included lol.
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Nope.
Developer Edition of the 2013 X doesn't get updates any faster.
See the discussion starting at Post #4 of this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/xt1058-to-xt1053-developper-t2967009
If anything, developer editions are LESS likely to receive updates in general (e.g. Samsung)
scryan said:
If anything, developer editions are LESS likely to receive updates in general (e.g. Samsung)
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Which doesn't hold true with the Moto X or Motorola in general since the release of the Moto X.
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If anything, developer editions are LESS likely to receive updates in general (e.g. Samsung)
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Guess you didn't read http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/xt1058-to-xt1053-developper-t2967009 starting with Post #4 like I suggested to hlaalu. In particular Post #6 Otherwise you would know that statement doesn't apply to the 2013 Moto X Dev Editions.
i'm on stock 4.4, not rooted but unlocked bootloader. Will i receive the OTA update ?
RoTo11R said:
i'm on stock 4.4, not rooted but unlocked bootloader. Will i receive the OTA update ?
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Yes you will
RoTo11R said:
i'm on stock 4.4, not rooted but unlocked bootloader. Will i receive the OTA update ?
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Do you have stock or custom recovery? If custom you will want to flash your stock recovery before taking a OTA.
Stock bootloader
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690sid said:
I just asked an agent of Moto. He said that the update might be available within 10 days.
However, Moto hasnt officially given any information....
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well, its been 10 days...guess we can strike that off the list