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Is it possible to root my phone?

Please excuse if this has been beaten to death. I've spent the last hour reading and reading an I've just gotten confused. I was heavily into the Android world for quite a while but have been out of it for a couple years. I bought my son a Droid Mini which from what I understand is pretty much the same thing as a Moto X. In the settings menu it says Android Version 4.4 Kernal Version 3.4.42-gfae57e0. I just need to root it. I'm not concerned about flashing ROMs, just need root for an app that requires it. Is it possible or do I need to get a different phone? I must have a root. Again please excuse the noob question but I've gotten a headache trying to make heads or tales of it.

boomhower said:
Please excuse if this has been beaten to death. I've spent the last hour reading and reading an I've just gotten confused. I was heavily into the Android world for quite a while but have been out of it for a couple years. I bought my son a Droid Mini which from what I understand is pretty much the same thing as a Moto X. In the settings menu it says Android Version 4.4 Kernal Version 3.4.42-gfae57e0. I just need to root it. I'm not concerned about flashing ROMs, just need root for an app that requires it. Is it possible or do I need to get a different phone? I must have a root. Again please excuse the noob question but I've gotten a headache trying to make heads or tales of it.
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No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.

bigv5150 said:
No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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I guess I'll go that route then. I bought my second hand so returning isn't an option. Can you link me to a thread?
I feel so lost. My last Android two Androids were an EVO and a Droid OG, I feel so lost now. Had a ton of ROMs on those but wow things have changed.

boomhower said:
I guess I'll go that route then. I bought my second hand so returning isn't an option. Can you link me to a thread?
I feel so lost. My last Android two Androids were an EVO and a Droid OG, I feel so lost now. Had a ton of ROMs on those but wow things have changed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-x-vzw-bootloader-t2659234/page66

bigv5150 said:
No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896

nhizzat said:
What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
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Under Android version it says 4.4. But is also says no software updates are available.... Kernal version says 3.4.42 that makes a difference. Guess the question is do I have 4.4 or 4.4.2. If .2 is the latest it should show under updates correct? Or maybe not since it's a Mini and not an X?

nhizzat said:
What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
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Don't give this guy false hope without reading the OP. He does not have a moto x, He has a droid mini. The droid line cannot be downgraded from 4.4 to 4.2.2, thus his only option is to use the shady Chinese unlockers.
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boomhower said:
Under Android version it says 4.4. But is also says no software updates are available.... Kernal version says 3.4.42 that makes a difference. Guess the question is do I have 4.4 or 4.4.2. If .2 is the latest it should show under updates correct? Or maybe not since it's a Mini and not an X?
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You should get your rooting advice from this area of the forums, it will more closly resemble the options you have available to your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-ultra
VZW droid mini ,ultra, and maxx are all still on 4.4. They cannot be downgraded due to verizon locking the bootloader. You will get confused answers from the moto x owners, as they could downgrade from 4.4 to 4.2.2 and then keep root using some trickery.
While it is true that this trickery would work to on your droid mini if you hadnt yet updated to 4.4, there is no way to revert to 4.2.2 on your device. your best option getting an unlock code from a 3rd party (this voids your warranty)
consider if it is worth it to you
Good luck,

You can't root 4.4 the droid line doesn't have 4.4.2 yet so your on 4.4.
As for the guys being shady selling the code that is absolutely false. Many have bought the code they are very accommodating and helpful. As a matter of fact a few were not able to get the code for what ever reason and were refunded the money. As far as I'm concerned if you want root unlock the boot loader it ain't coming anytime soon.
And further questions should be asked in the ultra section the ultra maxx and mini are the same. The moto x is 99.9% the same but as you can see there are a few differences like they can downgrade 4.4.
As a matter of fact I'm typing this on my maxx running 4.4.2 ported from a moto x. That is what you can do with an unlocked boot loader.

It is possible! I am now the owner of a fully rooted Droid Mini XT1030 running stock 4.4. It took buying a code from the Chinese tab site and a whole lot of help from NWKENT. He should be nominated for some kind of an award. He took the time on a Sunday morning to talk me through it on the phone. He's a saint in my book.

Verizon 4.4.3?

i know our Verizon XT060 has not gotten the 4.4.3 update yet would anyone know when? (only sprint and t-mobile) but since we dont even have root for 4.4.2 ,should i update it to 4.4.3 with promises of root eventually? or should i stay on 4.4.2 and wait for that root. we all heard that 4.4.3 and up will have root problems so is it even worth it?

Trozzul said:
i know our Verizon XT060 has not gotten the 4.4.3 update yet would anyone know when? (only sprint and t-mobile) but since we dont even have root for 4.4.2 ,should i update it to 4.4.3 with promises of root eventually? or should i stay on 4.4.2 and wait for that root. we all heard that 4.4.3 and up will have root problems so is it even worth it?
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The new root exploit for 4.4.2 has been released. You'll find info in the "original android development" section. The exploit is PATCHED in 4.4.3
If you update, you will not be able to use the new root exploit. There is no promise that there will EVER be another exploit. If possible, you should pursue a bootloader unlock.
The "root problems" for 4.4.3 have been fixed by the latest version of SuperSU....so long as the developer of the root apps you are using has implemented the new methods. But you will ONLY achieve root on 4.4.3 with unlocked BL.
Good Luck.
P.S. Sprint Moto X users have NOT received an update yet....not even a SOAK test. Only the T-Mobile variant has received it, and you shouldn't consider it a final release. As with all "soak" tests, the idea is to identify any issues so they can be fixed, BEFORE the official OTA is released.
The official OTA will likely have updates not yet included in the current SOAK test 4.4.3.

Well, only Nexus and GPE devices even have 4.4.3 right now, and the T-Mo update is only in testing, so I don't know why you didn't wait at least until the T-Mo version got the OTA, and then probably another week or two before asking when the update may come. Do people really have that little patience that they can't wait 2 weeks after it goes to AOSP and Nexus phones before asking about when an update will come? It'll be released when Moto, Google, Lenovo, and VZW deem it to be ready and not a moment sooner.
Sent from my Moto X

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Well, only Nexus and GPE devices even have 4.4.3 right now, and the T-Mo update is only in testing, so I don't know why you didn't wait at least until the T-Mo version got the OTA, and then probably another week or two before asking when the update may come. Do people really have that little patience that they can't wait 2 weeks after it goes to AOSP and Nexus phones before asking about when an update will come? It'll be released when Moto, Google, Lenovo, and VZW deem it to be ready and not a moment sooner.
Sent from my Moto X
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-4-4-3-rolling-out-to-moto-x-e-and-g-starting-today/ :/ i have it on my moto g already, i have plenty of Patience, you cant blame people for being excited.

[Q] Why am i still on 4.4.2?

I have an unlocked MOTO x and im on 4.4.2?? isnt 4.4.4 out now?

No, the last version is 4.4.3 and if you really need to update (there is no reason to do) first install a retail version firmware for your X model. (If there)
Here's the complete firmware list.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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Joseluize said:
No, the last version is 4.4.3 and if you really need to update (there is no reason to do) first install a retail version firmware for your X model. (If there)
Here's the complete firmware list.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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4.4.3 isnt there no, will it come soon?

idonttakedrugs said:
4.4.3 isnt there no, will it come soon?
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First, the person who answered you should have asked which device you are using (model number), and who your carrier is.
Second, the majority of us here don't recommend that you flash another carrier's firmware to your phone. Many things can go wrong, and if you ever revert back to the correct firmware, you have to use extreme caution to make sure you don't flash an OLDER firmware version to the phone, which can brick it!!! If you choose to flash a different firmware to your phone, do it at your own risk. You could end up with a paperweight.
Third, both the 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 updates are very MINOR updates. It isn't worth bricking just because you aren't patient, simply to (possibly) get another hour or two of battery life or a few small bug fixes.
I highly recommend that you simply be patient. Your carrier WILL release 4.4.4 eventually, and at that time you can simply take the over-the-air update assuming you haven't modified your /system or flashed custom recovery.

the update won't be noticeable to the users. it is bug fixes and a few tweaks. better to wait for 5.0 to come out

Joseluize said:
Here's the complete firmware list.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
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Slight correction... that is NOT the complete firmware list.
That site contains a copy of any SBF found or leaked... Sometimes it takes weeks after an OTA is pushed before a leaked SBF of that version is found and posted (think ATT 4.4.2)
They are "leaks" in the fact that they are not meant to be released to the public. As for how they "make it out" to end up on that site, well that is a different discussion that I don't want to get into.
That site is neither owned, operated, nor supported by Motorola.

idonttakedrugs said:
I have an unlocked MOTO x and im on 4.4.2?? isnt 4.4.4 out now?
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also if you have had a locked phone PREVIOUSLY but unlocked it later, and you are using a carrier thats not the orginal one, I think that could also factor in as to why you are not getting updates. For example, if you had a moto x for ATT and you unlocked it to use for TMOBILE, you might have a delayed update or in some cases no update at all. Just my 2 cents.

dhru1405 said:
also if you have had a locked phone PREVIOUSLY but unlocked it later, and you are using a carrier thats not the orginal one, I think that could also factor in as to why you are not getting updates. For example, if you had a moto x for ATT and you unlocked it to use for TMOBILE, you might have a delayed update or in some cases no update at all. Just my 2 cents.
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bought it unlocked mate,

samwathegreat said:
First, the person who answered you should have asked which device you are using (model number), and who your carrier is.
Second, the majority of us here don't recommend that you flash another carrier's firmware to your phone. Many things can go wrong, and if you ever revert back to the correct firmware, you have to use extreme caution to make sure you don't flash an OLDER firmware version to the phone, which can brick it!!! If you choose to flash a different firmware to your phone, do it at your own risk. You could end up with a paperweight.
Third, both the 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 updates are very MINOR updates. It isn't worth bricking just because you aren't patient, simply to (possibly) get another hour or two of battery life or a few small bug fixes.
I highly recommend that you simply be patient. Your carrier WILL release 4.4.4 eventually, and at that time you can simply take the over-the-air update assuming you haven't modified your /system or flashed custom recovery.
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my phones unlocked, so shouldnt i have the latest from motorola?? i will wait, but im just baffled on how i havent got it

idonttakedrugs said:
my phones unlocked, so shouldnt i have the latest from motorola?? i will wait, but im just baffled on how i havent got it
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It does not matter that your phone is unlocked. This is totally unrelated to receiving updates. Just FYI, NO ONE with a Moto X has received 4.4.4 yet (except MAYBE soak-testers). Only a handful of carriers are on 4.4.3.
The 4.4.3 upgrade was CANCELLED do to a bug being found, and instead, all the variants that hadn't released 4.4.3 are going to be upgraded STRAIGHT to 4.4.4 (skipping 4.4.3 entirely).
I don't think you understand just how much testing has to go into these upgrades before they are released.
Here is an EXCELLENT article that should explain it for you. The part you are interested in is called "The Big Hold-Up"
http://gizmodo.com/5987508/why-android-updates-are-so-slow

Do OTA updates update the bootloader?

Hey y'all! Just curious if the Moto X updates it's bootloader every time it gets OTA updates? I recently was gifted a Verizon Moto X which originally ran Jelly Bean and OTA'ed up to Lollipop. It's no secret that Motorola has no intention provided further updates–and it's widely known that Verizon phones are notorious when it comes to bootloader's. I'm looking to attempt running sunshine after rooting, but I'd just like some community feedback before I take on this little guy! Thanks in advance!

brookemels said:
Hey y'all! Just curious if the Moto X updates it's bootloader every time it gets OTA updates? I recently was gifted a Verizon Moto X which originally ran Jelly Bean and OTA'ed up to Lollipop. It's no secret that Motorola has no intention provided further updates–and it's widely known that Verizon phones are notorious when it comes to bootloader's. I'm looking to attempt running sunshine after rooting, but I'd just like some community feedback before I take on this little guy! Thanks in advance!
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Not all Verizon OTAs update the bootloader, but some do. Depending on which version of the MotoX you have, sunshine may not work. My wife has a MotoX 2013, and had we sunshined it *before* she updated to lollipop, all would have been fine. But we didn't, so now she gets no bootloader unlock love.
You can always check with Sunshine's support chat folks to see if your phone is unlockable.

7.1.1 now available for the Moto G4 Play!!!

Guys Android 7.1.1 is now available for the Moto G4 Play
Any one captured the 7.1.1 OTA?
Source: Moto G4 Play 7.1.1

harsinghal said:
Guys Android 7.1.1 is now available for the Moto G4 Play
Any one captured the 7.1.1 OTA?
Source: Moto G4 Play 7.1.1
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Its out weeks ago for Brazilian

Didn't get it yet, but that's awesome that it's 7.1.1, and not just 7.0.

If your phone is the verizon or amazon variant and you would like to ever have a chance to unlock your bootloader, this update will block the only known exploit. Beware!!!

I have an Amazon variant. Which exploit are you talking of?
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hp420 said:
If your phone is the verizon or amazon variant and you would like to ever have a chance to unlock your bootloader, this update will block the only known exploit. Beware!!!
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Which exploit are you talking of? I have the Amazon variant.

hp420 said:
If your phone is the verizon or amazon variant and you would like to ever have a chance to unlock your bootloader, this update will block the only known exploit. Beware!!!
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Link to this exploit for the Amazon variant? Pretty sure unless you unlock the ads on Amazon you're out of luck.

xgerryx said:
Link to this exploit for the Amazon variant? Pretty sure unless you unlock the ads on Amazon you're out of luck.
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jishujena2000 said:
Which exploit are you talking of? I have the Amazon variant.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4-play/how-to/major-security-vulnerability-discovered-t3618968
I did a minor amount of digging and reading, and did see a 100% definite mention that the xt1609 verizon variant is able to be unlocked with this method. It needs to be ported to g4 play, specifically, but there is a table at the bottom of the github page that specifically notes the verizon variant as having been successfully unlocked by someone who has not submitted their port...though i sure wish they would!!! I will be the first to admit, I'm noob, at best, but I'm doing my best to translate and understand the instructions given to get this exploit ported. It will need testing, and said tester will need to have an extensive understanding of terminal command, and be in possession of an amazon or verizon variant. i make no promises, but just know that it is being looked into, and i will offer no eta. So please do not ask or contact me for one. I will post publicly if and when I need testers for the exploit. In the meantime, deny any and all update notifications.

Anyone got it in the USA yet?

fluffyofqweam said:
Anyone got it in the USA yet?
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Nope...

How long complete global rolling out usually takes? A month?

anonymous2211 said:
How long complete global rolling out usually takes? A month?
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with lenovo's current track record??? pffff....a year?

Are you kidding me? If I don't get it by the end of June (xt1602 reteu), I'm going for a custom ROM, LineageOS probably...

anonymous2211 said:
Are you kidding me? If I don't get it by the end of June (xt1602 reteu), I'm going for a custom ROM, LineageOS probably...
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Lineage is great u should go for it ?

What base build does this ota install over?
I'm guessing MPI24.241-15.3, but want to know for sure.

I have got a 450mb update here in India...not sure if it's the nougat update as downloading is very slow ...I think it said it brought some security patch..I'll let u guys know once it's done downloading

i got a 45mb security patch today.
saw in some fb group that it ain't nougat.
trying to go back to stock recovery to flash it.

What is the security patch level of your phone now ?

A man called vikasyadav9811 on lenovo forum reported that he got 7.1.1 ota in India. Does anyone else got the ota update in India?

alshanu said:
A man called vikasyadav9811 on lenovo forum reported that he got 7.1.1 ota in India. Does anyone else got the ota update in India?
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No.btw what is the software channel of that guy?

Nothing on my Amazon play in usa
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