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Hey guys, looking for some input here.
Im coming up on the 14 day return policy for the nexus 6, but im really thinking of returning it and going with the note 4.
The only issue i have with the phone is battery life. My phone seems to gulp it down. Now i do have many battery draining features turned off and standby time is excellent. Its when i actually use the phone i get massive drain, whether it be facebooking, web browsing, or playing games, the phone loses a lot of life! My wife used the camera this past weekend for 20 minutes according to the stats and my percentage dropped 25%from 80% to 55% within 1/2 hour!
My brightness is also on adaptive at 35-40%. For the life of me, it just seems i cant stop the battery drain.
I know going to the stock note 4 battery is about the same, but Zerolemon is releasing the note 4 10000 mah battery later this month. I had the same battery on my note 3 and loved it, ive never killed that battery. Yes, itll be a brick, yes but im thinking id prefer battery over function.
I do love the nexus, especially the screen size and the front facing speakers, and i will lose those with the note, but having a dead phone by 6pm makes those features useless. Yes, i could charge the phone halfway through the day, but i was spoiled with the note 3 extended battery.
SO my question is, should i chance the nexus 6 and hope upcoming updates solve the drain, or should i dump it and go with the note 4 and extended battery.
Frank
TL;DR NExus 6 battery dies too quick, return and get note 4 with zero lemon.
I went from the Note 4 to the Nexus 6 and battery life is about the same. I was actually pretty disappointed with the battery life of the Note 4 considering i had a Note 2 where the battery lasted FOREVER! I had originally decided that i would bypass the Nexus 6 and get the Note 4 instead, and at first i loved it but after having to deal with constant lag and dealing with samsung's crappy radios i'm glad i picked up the Nexus 6 (Note 4 is my new alarm clock at home)
It seems that your mind is already made up.. just get the Note 4
ultravorx said:
Hey guys, looking for some input here.
Im coming up on the 14 day return policy for the nexus 6, but im really thinking of returning it and going with the note 4.
The only issue i have with the phone is battery life. My phone seems to gulp it down. Now i do have many battery draining features turned off and standby time is excellent. Its when i actually use the phone i get massive drain, whether it be facebooking, web browsing, or playing games, the phone loses a lot of life! My wife used the camera this past weekend for 20 minutes according to the stats and my percentage dropped 25%from 80% to 55% within 1/2 hour!
My brightness is also on adaptive at 35-40%. For the life of me, it just seems i cant stop the battery drain.
I know going to the stock note 4 battery is about the same, but Zerolemon is releasing the note 4 10000 mah battery later this month. I had the same battery on my note 3 and loved it, ive never killed that battery. Yes, itll be a brick, yes but im thinking id prefer battery over function.
I do love the nexus, especially the screen size and the front facing speakers, and i will lose those with the note, but having a dead phone by 6pm makes those features useless. Yes, i could charge the phone halfway through the day, but i was spoiled with the note 3 extended battery.
SO my question is, should i chance the nexus 6 and hope upcoming updates solve the drain, or should i dump it and go with the note 4 and extended battery.
Frank
TL;DR NExus 6 battery dies too quick, return and get note 4 with zero lemon.
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Are you using stock ROM or rooted and/or flashed? Sounds unusual for stock. I'd check your network settings and make sure your preferred network type and access point name are correct for your carrier but if standby time is good that probably isn't it anyway. I'd look for an app which gives more detailed battery usage information and go from there.
after going through an S4 and Note 3.. Im glad to be away from samsung. They have amazing hardware specs but drag it down with their crappy touchwiz. It's really unfortunate, the s-pen is pretty great.
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Are you using stock ROM or rooted and/or flashed? Sounds unusual for stock. I'd check your network settings and make sure your preferred network type and access point name are correct for your carrier but if standby time is good that probably isn't it anyway. I'd look for an app which gives more detailed battery usage information and go from there.
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im actually fully stock, with just a few apps. I have checked for wake locks and draining apps and down have any. Actually all the apps i had are the same as the note 3 i had. Nothing new.
Im on att and my prefered network is LTE, changed it from global a few days ago.
It seems the biggest drain is during use, not standby!
Frank
tsy87 said:
after going through an S4 and Note 3.. Im glad to be away from samsung. They have amazing hardware specs but drag it down with their crappy touchwiz. It's really unfortunate, the s-pen is pretty great.
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I'm in the same boat you are. I'd get a samsung device today if they just got rid of TouchWiz and just went stock AOSP.
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It seems the biggest drain is during use, not standby!
Frank
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That is normal on any device. That battery for me is decent. However don't forget that you just got a new device. People always use new devices more initially before they settle into a normal use rhythm. Also I wouldn't worry much about the return date because this device is so hard to get that if you sold it yourself you would probably make money on it. Just give it time.
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It's possible that something is wrong with YOUR nexus. I get 5 hours of sot with a stock rooted rom and greenify. Once I decrypt, ROM and kernel I'd expect 6 to 8 easy.
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It seems that your mind is already made up.. just get the Note 4
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Could it be related to this?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/11/05/google-confirms-android-5-0-lollipop-delay/
edit: nm i see you already mentioned it in the original post, and were just looking for opinions.
The battery life is obviously important, so it is certainly a dice roll on your part.
For me, I have a Note 2 and waiting for N6 to be available for me. I am so sick of Samsung forced apps and touchwiz. It's not rooted, but I don't feel like I should have to root it in order to get a basic OS without the addons being forced on me by the manufacturer, and then have the warranty voided because of it.
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Could it be related to this?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2014/11/05/google-confirms-android-5-0-lollipop-delay/
edit: nm i see you already mentioned it in the original post, and were just looking for opinions.
The battery life is obviously important, so it is certainly a dice roll on your part.
For me, I have a Note 2 and waiting for N6 to be available for me. I am so sick of Samsung forced apps and touchwiz. It's not rooted, but I don't feel like I should have to root it in order to get a basic OS without the addons being forced on me by the manufacturer, and then have the warranty voided because of it.
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My top hitter has never been misc, its usually android os or google play services.
Frank
So here's some usage pics from today. Does this seem typical?
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So here's some usage pics from today. Does this seem typical?
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theres no such thing as "typical". we all use our devices differently, and have differing signal quality. you can really ever compare battery stats with another person because of that. only you know how you use your device. so the question is going to get changed.. by how you use your device, and your local signal quality, are you happy with your battery life?
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im actually fully stock, with just a few apps. I have checked for wake locks and draining apps and down have any. Actually all the apps i had are the same as the note 3 i had. Nothing new.
Im on att and my prefered network is LTE, changed it from global a few days ago.
It seems the biggest drain is during use, not standby!
Frank
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Did you allow google to auto restore settings, apps, data at first boot up? Coming from a different device and OS version could have synced something funky that is causing this. I have noticed this before. Consequentially I never use this feature. I always set every device up fresh (same if switching Roms too in my book). I would try a factory reset at the very least. I have been trying hard to kill my n6 today with no luck, already 12 up time 22% battery left with 4½ hours SOT. Battery stats say I have 3 hours of life left.
Have google now on and going, 2 email clients syncing, g+ syncing, Tapatalk syncing, roughtly 4 active hangouts going, and updated 8+ apps from play store.
Been actively trying to duplicate a power day on this thing. With you experience, something is off with your description and worth experimenting some.
I did do the wireless sync due to some apps needing to recover data.
Maybe I'll try a reset and manually download the apps.
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Ive had my phone for a couple weeks now. The first week I had it obviously I was playing around with it a ton and trying different Qi chargers to see how they work. My battery life was unimpressive at 8-10 hours. I was hoping to have at least a full days worth of time based on everything this is supposed to have.
Then I tried a couple things. I turned off the stupid fit application. I ran the battery all the way down until the phone literally turned off. Then I used only wall USB chargers to charge it up.
Now with the same type of usage 3-4 hours of screen time, Im typically getting at least 18-24 hours of battery life. I even managed 30 hours once. Anyway, Im extremely happy with the way this phone is holding up now. Obviously YMMV but I think if you find the right tweaks for the way you use it, it should last longer than you expect.
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So here's some usage pics from today. Does this seem typical?
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So Far Today by your stats i will give you mine.
@ 27% Battery Left after flashing Stock a 1.5 days ago rooted/decrypted
Screen is at 4:30:09 @ 42% Usage
Phone Radio 15:30:41 @ 4% usage
Wifi Active 3:24:12 1% usage
Held Awake 2:23:26 0% usage
App Usage 53%
I also have a persistent System (ADSPD) drain that while i don't know how much its draining app sucker puts it at 13.8% vs the next drainer of Android System at 7.3%
Just guessing maybe you are in a poorer signal area than I? Basing that on your phone radio using much more of the percentage?
For what its worth you saw my screen on time. GSAM is predicting 6h 58m total for the day if i run it to 0.
Hello everyone! I'm thinking of getting rid of my Note 4 and getting either a Xperia Z3 or a Nexus 6. Don't get me wrong, the Note 4 is a great device, but for the money, the amount of lag and terrible low-light and indoor pictures and pretty bad battery life is just too much for me.
The most important things for me are:
Battery life
Performance (multitasking)
Camera
All the blogs said the Note 4 was the device for me, but over the last 3 roms I haven't been able to fix ANY of these issues.
How's the Nexus 6? Are you guys generally speaking happy with it? Has anyone played with the Note 4 and could maybe shine some light on their opinion and experiences? Thanks!
UPDATE:
I've pulled the trigger, photography examples are here. Quite surprising if you ask me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61486380&postcount=60
zkyevolved said:
Hello everyone! I'm thinking of getting rid of my Note 4 and getting either a Xperia Z3 or a Nexus 6. Don't get me wrong, the Note 4 is a great device, but for the money, the amount of lag and terrible low-light and indoor pictures and pretty bad battery life is just too much for me.
The most important things for me are:
Battery life
Performance (multitasking)
Camera
All the blogs said the Note 4 was the device for me, but over the last 3 roms I haven't been able to fix ANY of these issues.
How's the Nexus 6? Are you guys generally speaking happy with it? Has anyone played with the Note 4 and could maybe shine some light on their opinion and experiences? Thanks!
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I've had the note 4. Lived the screen and the software actually wasn't half bad but there was lag, especially in the multitasking section. Also battery life was pretty bad and the phone heated up substantially even with little usage and of course saying that it's not on latest android software (which isn't a big thing for most). Just got the nexus 6 a few days and was completely blown away by how solid it is. Speakers are much louder than the HTC one m8 in certain situations (Spotify streaming seems to be on par) but in the vine app the videos are super loud and clear. Being on latest software is great and the screen itself being a 6 inch 2k display is very useful and not over kill at all although I do with the screen was more on the cooler side. Last but not least the development community of course is outstanding in the nexus community so overall the nexus is a solid choice. I've also had the z2 which is the same as the z3 is great but if your a modder/developer than you'll stay away as there isn't much. Only thing going for the z3 is the screen and battery life. I consistently got over 5 to 6 hours of screen on time on the z2 stock which I miss but not enough to go back lol
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If you don't mind me asking, how is the camera and battery life on the nexus 6? I have read multiple sites and videos. They're all over the place. Some say the camera is awesome while others no. Other sites say that the battery life is good. Others say it's terrible... How does it compare with the note 4 and z2? I'm more intrigued by the nexus to be honest. Haha.
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If you don't mind me asking, how is the camera and battery life on the nexus 6? I have read multiple sites and videos. They're all over the place. Some say the camera is awesome while others no. Other sites say that the battery life is good. Others say it's terrible... How does it compare with the note 4 and z2? I'm more intrigued by the nexus to be honest. Haha.
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Batterylife is about 4-5 hours screenontime depending on usage off course. And for me the camera is quite good (not Galaxy S6 good) especialy with sufficient light, pics are crisp and detailled and colors are quite accurate. I`ve had all the Notes too but the N6 will grow on you i`am sure. And it has very good speakers btw.
Camera is great, but I'm not a "picture taker". Love the app, A Better Camera. Takes full advantage of all 13mp. Battery life varies heavily on kernel and the settings you chose. I can go a couple days. I don't really worry about battery life though. Ex. I had 12% and ran a short errund, 20 min at most. When I got back battery was 93%. Hail to the turbo charge...
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zkyevolved said:
If you don't mind me asking, how is the camera and battery life on the nexus 6? I have read multiple sites and videos. They're all over the place. Some say the camera is awesome while others no. Other sites say that the battery life is good. Others say it's terrible... How does it compare with the note 4 and z2? I'm more intrigued by the nexus to be honest. Haha.
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Lol well I never take pictures. I did however take a few shots when I got it. The pictures seem good but then again I'm no professional. The battery life is OK to say the least when I first got it but it settled down after a few days. I'm now on chroma ROM stock nothing changed but the rom itself and I just pushed over 5 hours SOT. On bone stock before I rooted I believe I was getting a little over 3 hours with heavy gmail refreshing/internet browsing(chrome)/xda /YouTube watching and mostly all on T-Mobile LTE with db of around -109 to -112 at the place I work so id say it's pretty good honestly. If you root and ROM like most people do then you'll exceed those stock limitations for sure as evidence of me.
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I don't like to mod or root my devices. So it would have to be stock everything. Camera performance is important to me, as is the ability to spend the day being able to take pictures. I could kill my phone with an afternoon of capturing some snapshots. Haha.
Knowing that I wouldn't root my device, would you still recommend it? ^_^ thanks.
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I don't like to mod or root my devices. So it would have to be stock everything. Camera performance is important to me, as is the ability to spend the day being able to take pictures. I could kill my phone with an afternoon of capturing some snapshots. Haha.
Knowing that I wouldn't root my device, would you still recommend it? ^_^ thanks.
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Yeah definitely. The phone itself is a beast. Love the form factor, the screen, the speakers, stock software. The camera itself is fast and very simplistic, although it could use more manual camera options like the s6, but I'm sure you can download a camera off the play store with such options and of course you can record video in 4k so overall its not a bad contender what so ever.
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Just got my N6 Wednesday. Completely stock I'm getting 6-7 hrs sot. Web browsing, YouTube etc. Camera is OK but it's not something that is important to me. I don't take many pictures. Quick charge works well. I came from a note 3. It was a good phone but I like this phone better. Better battery life than I ever got with the N3.
Stock... You've got a great camera. Again battery life is good, its a rather hefty one, but depends on you. How you use it, WiFi vs data, downloads, streaming etc. Basically battery life is in your control.
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Stock... You've got a great camera. Again battery life is good, its a rather hefty one, but depends on you. How you use it, WiFi vs data, downloads, streaming etc. Basically battery life is in your control.
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I understand that. That's why I'm so ticked about note 4... My usage is minimal. I am on Wi-Fi 90% of the time. My phone has been off the charger for an hour and this is the first time I've picked it up in an hour and it's already down 4%. Samsung did something horribly wrong.
I also have an awesome Nokia dt-903 wireless charger which I miss using since I switched my Nokia 1520. Haha. So as long as battery is good enough to last a day with normal usage, like taking some pictures, browsing the web for 20 minutes a day, and answering whatsapp and line messages throughout the day, then I'm happy. [emoji1]
Thank you for your reply!
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I understand that. That's why I'm so ticked about note 4... My usage is minimal. I am on Wi-Fi 90% of the time. My phone has been off the charger for an hour and this is the first time I've picked it up in an hour and it's already down 4%. Samsung did something horribly wrong.
I also have an awesome Nokia dt-903 wireless charger which I miss using since I switched my Nokia 1520. Haha. So as long as battery is good enough to last a day with normal usage, like taking some pictures, browsing the web for 20 minutes a day, and answering whatsapp and line messages throughout the day, then I'm happy. [emoji1]
Thank you for your reply!
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I`am sure the N6 will not be a letdown i`am sure, i would advice to buy the 64GB version (if available) as there is no sdcard tray to expand memory. As for the size you`re hands and brain will be used to it within 2 days and after that most other phones will look tiny
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I`am sure the N6 will not be a letdown i`am sure, i would advice to buy the 64GB version (if available) as there is no sdcard tray to expand memory. As for the size you`re hands and brain will be used to it within 2 days and after that most other phones will look tiny
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Haha. No doubt. I have the note 4 now. Before I had the Nokia 1520, another 6 inch device. But that one wouldn't allow me to sit down with the phone in my pocket. Haha. And I was counting on getting the 64gb model. ?
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For sure. Unfortunately Verizon only had 32gb. That being said I have had phone a while and have multirom with 2 extras. Still over 17gb left. If you need it, get it!
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$50 price difference is nothing. I remember "needing" 64 on iPhone 5S and paid, what 200 more. Foolish
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I understand that. That's why I'm so ticked about note 4... My usage is minimal. I am on Wi-Fi 90% of the time. My phone has been off the charger for an hour and this is the first time I've picked it up in an hour and it's already down 4%. Samsung did something horribly wrong.
I also have an awesome Nokia dt-903 wireless charger which I miss using since I switched my Nokia 1520. Haha. So as long as battery is good enough to last a day with normal usage, like taking some pictures, browsing the web for 20 minutes a day, and answering whatsapp and line messages throughout the day, then I'm happy. [emoji1]
Thank you for your reply!
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Note looks like a great phone. If I had TMO or Sprint it would of been a tough call. Do they still have external SD?
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Note looks like a great phone. If I had TMO or Sprint it would of been a tough call. Do they still have external SD?
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Yep. I toyed with the idea of a note 4, then I remembered id had a Samsung before.
zkyevolved said:
Hello everyone! I'm thinking of getting rid of my Note 4 and getting either a Xperia Z3 or a Nexus 6. Don't get me wrong, the Note 4 is a great device, but for the money, the amount of lag and terrible low-light and indoor pictures and pretty bad battery life is just too much for me.
The most important things for me are:
Battery life
Performance (multitasking)
Camera
All the blogs said the Note 4 was the device for me, but over the last 3 roms I haven't been able to fix ANY of these issues.
How's the Nexus 6? Are you guys generally speaking happy with it? Has anyone played with the Note 4 and could maybe shine some light on their opinion and experiences? Thanks!
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I did this switch and haven't looked back since dropping my note 4 for the nexus 6.
I've had the Note 4 , 2 of them between me and my GF, and have been using the Nexus 6 for about 3 weeks now..
My Note 4 experience has been nothing like the OP. I got great battery ( mostly on LTE all day ...RF around -90 to -105db ...SOT almost 7 hrs), neither of the two Notes heated up to an uncomfortable level, the camera on both N4s has been stellar and way better than the Nexus 6 ! The Note 4 had a bit of lag but that was resolved ( at least for me ) when animations were toned down to 0.5x under Developer Options.
If camera, especially in low light situations, and battery are your priorities, stay away from the Nexus 6 ! I love the Nexus 6 but not for its camera or battery.
If it wasn't my impatience for the latest FW w/o rooting, I would have def. kept the Note 4 ! I wish there was a GPE version of the N4!!
I have no experience with the Z3, so can't comment on that device.
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Haha. No doubt. I have the note 4 now. Before I had the Nokia 1520, another 6 inch device. But that one wouldn't allow me to sit down with the phone in my pocket. Haha. And I was counting on getting the 64gb model. ?
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Samsung is a good phone. TMO and Sprint service is pathetic. At least here. So having Verizon I went with S5 after years of apple. Glad I did. And thanks to whomever, I was able to get a developer ed. I do miss sdcard a little, but removable battery was NICE. Hardly ever had to charge. Just swap to a fresh bat. I think Sammy is going away from those perks now so now it would be an easy choice....
Yeah, that's what I keep hearing. I guess I'll stick with my Note 4 a little while longer to see what happens with Samsung and their ROMS.
I went to a shop yesterday and did a camera test, and wow... I mean, the detail on the Nexus 6 is fine... But ... What a difference in camera quality...
To date, this post is for anyone that has had this phone from november december area. I have always struggled with battery dwindling on my phones. The LG G2 lasts 1.5 hours of screen time now on AOSP when it used to push almost 5hrs, and my girlfriends older droid razr m went from 3 hrs of screen time to a struggling 1 hour. I would wait for the next nexus but i hear its coming from hauei whoever they are. Im not comfortable going with that company yet. I have been looking at the Sony z3 (or waiting for the new Us versions z4 with the 2k screen) but i am abe to get this phone for 380 through my work. How is the stamina of the battery 7-8 months later?
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To date, this post is for anyone that has had this phone from november december area. I have always struggled with battery dwindling on my phones. The LG G2 lasts 1.5 hours of screen time now on AOSP when it used to push almost 5hrs, and my girlfriends older droid razr m went from 3 hrs of screen time to a struggling 1 hour. I would wait for the next nexus but i hear its coming from hauei whoever they are. Im not comfortable going with that company yet. I have been looking at the Sony z3 (or waiting for the new Us versions z4 with the 2k screen) but i am abe to get this phone for 380 through my work. How is the stamina of the battery 7-8 months later?
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Had the phone since early December, no battery dwindling here, even with Quick Charge. I'm on Verizon, and I use LTE, never WiFi. I normally get 2-3 hours of screen time. If I use WiFi I can get 4 hours or so. It easily lasts me an entire day, but I struggle to get through 1.5-2 days. Keep in mind I do not underclock or undervolt. I am running AOSiP ROM and have Lean Kernel as my Kernel. But I don't underclock.
I did run the phone completely stock for about a month and got about the same battery life, maybe even slightly better. I have over 120 apps on my phone, and I have the 64GB White version. Let me know if you have any other questions!
P.S. For $380 you could easily buy the phone and sell it in a couple of months and lose nothing and still upgrade to a newer phone.
Its the best phone i ever had hands down and with a powerbank or using the quickcharger you will never run out of juice. Besides that its fast, responsive, has a great screen and dual speakers so overall i can recommend to anyone who appreciates vanilla. If you want bloat get a Sony, Samsung or LG BTW my screenontime is about 3-4 hours depending on usage and i think Huawei makes some pretty damn good phones like the Mate 7 for instance.
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Its the best phone i ever had hands down and with a powerbank or using the quickcharger you will never run out of juice. Besides that its fast, responsive, has a great screen and dual speakers so overall i can recommend to anyone who appreciates vanilla. If you want bloat get a Sony, Samsung or LG BTW my screenontime is about 3-4 hours depending on usage and i think Huawei makes some pretty damn good phones like the Mate 7 for instance.
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Do you use WiFi or LTE mainly? If LTE, what carrier?
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Do you use WiFi or LTE mainly? If LTE, what carrier?
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My carrier (T-Mobile) in the Netherlands just rolled out LTE where i live and coverage isn`t optimal yet (HSPA+). I`am about half the day on wifi and half on LTE (HSPA+).
All great info. No bloatware on the z3 international, and it's certified ip68 were the nexus can take a dunk but not certified. I agree 380 is good price it was a debate of this or s6 a and I'm leaning to this one
agree 100%
gee2012 said:
Its the best phone i ever had hands down and with a powerbank or using the quickcharger you will never run out of juice. Besides that its fast, responsive, has a great screen and dual speakers so overall i can recommend to anyone who appreciates vanilla. If you want bloat get a Sony, Samsung or LG BTW my screenontime is about 3-4 hours depending on usage and i think Huawei makes some pretty damn good phones like the Mate 7 for instance.
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I couldn't agree more. It is the best phone I ever had too. Recently I have purchased a Qi charger for the office, so i do not even use the turbocharger that sits at home. No battery deterioration noticed. Oh, and I never use the car charger.
WiFi / LTE - 50/50.
This is the best phone I've had as well, have had it since it came out end of 2014, on the Verizon network the entire time.
I'm on LTE 10-13 hours a day, and WiFi a few hours, the battery will last me from 6:30am - 10pm everyday, without charging at all, and being around 15%-25% when I am about to put it on charge during bedtime.
The phone is rooted, on AOSIP ROM, with AOSIP default kernal. The battery life is amazing. I get between 4-5 hours of screen on time. I am currently at 61% battery (6:30am to 3pm now), with 2 hours SOT.
I use Servicely to hibernate apps while phone is asleep. I also use 'App Ops' to disable 'Location' and 'Keep Awake' access for apps that don't need the access. I have Google Now and Facebook running normal all day, and WhatsApp is my preferred method of texting throughout the day.
Coming from a Galaxy Note 3, I'm a bit disappointed by the screen and battery life. Color reproduction is kinda weird and the screen is too dim in bright sunlight for me. I can live with the relatively weak battery but the screen is just...disappointing. Still, I love it and felt never so happy with a device!
HSPA+ is not LTE
Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
LimitsX said:
Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
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I didn't notice any drop in wifi or LTE connection. Battery life has been great for me..on stock you should get 5-6 hrs sot. Return process is smooth, I had returned twice and both the times I didn't have any problems
1. Haven't noticed any worse signal than I had with my oneplus one. May actually be better. On ATT.
2. No issues here. I use my 5ghz network at home and haven't noticed any particularly increased frequency in wifi drops to the point where it bothers me.
3. Battery life is fantastic. Some people get up to 10+ hours of battery life. I'm unrooted and stock (a first for me in the last 8 years) and get 26-28 hours out of each charge with SOT of 4ish hours but I use my phone for a lot of music and phone calls. Sometimes I wonder what my battery life would be if I had the time to spend 10+ hours on it per day lol.
4. No experience with returns.
Honestly man, I have zero regrets about this phone and the vast majority who have this phone feel the same way. If you're considering it, pull the trigger. Odds are you'll be quite happy with the phone.
1. In comparision to my former iPhone 6 signal strength increased quite a bit. Calls were disconnected while walking around the office before. With the 3T connection became mor stable.
2. Wifi is working well and stable - not significally better or worse than with any other wireless client.
3. I had Problems with battery drains due to hight RAM and CPU usage of "Google Play Services" and "Android System". Many already complained about this according to the AOSP/MRA bug. I did a clean re-flash with OOS 4.0.2 3 days ago. Everything is fine now... not to say awesome.
4. I have no experience with returns and refunds. Word is: With OnePlus it might become complicated but customer service reacts quickly to support requests.
Like previous speaker, I don't regret a thing. I love my 3T.
LimitsX said:
Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
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1.) I have had 2 dropped calls since I got my phone in November, LTE is slow at my house which is okay but as I get closer to the city I see speeds of 100Mbps. I am with Rogers.
2.) I have not had any Wifi drops yet.
3.) I rooted but did no other modifications, I can listen to music and have the screen on for 4 hours (to and from work on transit, reading news, facebook, etc) and play music for 6 hours over bluetooth while at work and still get home with 40% battery. Best thing is phone can charge from 30% to 95% in 1 hour while still playing music over bluetooth incase I forgot to charge at home in the morning before I leave.
4.) I have never had to do a return
LimitsX said:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
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I have the 3000 - the North American OP3T with up to date stock ROM 4.02, ie no alternate modem firmware and am using it on the Bell network.
In comparison with other smartphones I have used and my wife's current iphone, in my area I have found that it acquires and holds the network signal at least as well and better than her iPhone 6.. I haven't noticed any unexpected signal loss or disconnection... I run four Wifi networks at my home (2x5ghz and 2x2.4ghz). I have never had any problem acquiring a signal and have never noticed any unexpected signal loss.
LimitsX said:
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
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I can't state what will give you the best. However, I can say that I'm a heavy user on the stock 4.02 rom, am not (yet) rooted, and easily get 5-6 hours. Based on the use you describe, I would expect you will get longer.
LimitsX said:
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
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Fortunately, I haven't had this experience.. If you want to keep this option available, you should look into the specific limitations. Many companies have limits on use, and not just time since purchase.
LimitsX said:
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
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To be "honest and objective," I would also have to question your chosen phone models if you are on a very tight budget and just want a "decent" phone. You can get a decent new phone or last year's flagship used for much less.
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Mad Medik said:
I have the 3000 - the North American OP3T with up to date stock ROM 4.02, ie no alternate modem firmware and am using it on the Bell network.
In comparison with other smartphones I have used and my wife's current iphone, in my area I have found that it acquires and holds the network signal at least as well and better than her iPhone 6.. I haven't noticed any unexpected signal loss or disconnection... I run four Wifi networks at my home (2x5ghz and 2x2.4ghz). I have never had any problem acquiring a signal and have never noticed any unexpected signal loss.
I can't state what will give you the best. However, I can say that I'm a heavy user on the stock 4.02 rom, am not (yet) rooted, and easily get 5-6 hours. Based on the use you describe, I would expect you will get longer.
Fortunately, I haven't had this experience.. If you want to keep this option available, you should look into the specific limitations. Many companies have limits on use, and not just time since purchase.
To be "honest and objective," I would also have to question your chosen phone models if you are on a very tight budget and just want a "decent" phone. You can get a decent new phone or last year's flagship used for much less.
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Thank you so much and everyone else who replied to my questions. I appreciate it. Do you have any other decent phone or last year phone that is decent for much less? I had Galaxy S4, but it just died and tried to get it repaired, but it became worse. So thats the situation. I found Nexus 5 32GB for $135 CAD, but, i will end up paying $250 for it, which im not sure if its worth it. The phone is 3 years old, but in really mint condition though.
Every phone I've try to buy, its costing me $400-500 with taxes and unlocking fees. These are really crappy ones lol, like some 2 core snap dragon cpu and 1.5GB ram. I buy phones outright, so yeah. Cheapest is $282 with taxes, and that phone is not even worth that much, plus $50 unlocking fees.
To stay on topic, it seems like O3T seems good phone. Would any of you guys be able to comment on camera quality? I don't take a lot, but when I do, i want some good quality pictures..
So, its better to get O3T over Pixel XL?
Thanks everyone!
The Wifi drop concern comes from the many posts were saying it is dropping, weak signal strength (getting 20 Mbps - 45 Mbps at most), so i was really concerned. Even my S4 didn't go that low, which is 3.5 years old phone.
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
rajesh Kumar.1984 said:
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
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Can you tell us what version of OOS you're using. Running 4.0.2 I cannot reproduce this behavior.
Inciter said:
Can you tell us what version of OOS you're using. Running 4.0.2 I cannot reproduce this behavior.
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I have updated OS to 4.0.2 beta and facing this issue
LimitsX said:
The Wifi drop concern comes from the many posts were saying it is dropping, weak signal strength (getting 20 Mbps - 45 Mbps at most), so i was really concerned. Even my S4 didn't go that low, which is 3.5 years old phone.
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The 51 Mbps was when connected to 2.4Ghz wifi the over 80+ was 5Ghz
rajesh Kumar.1984 said:
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
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This post should be in bug reports, not in this thread.
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Hey guyz. I've got nexus 5 for 2 years now and im starting to look after a new phone. I love my nexus 5 and honestly i wouldnt change it. The cons of nex 5 are battery and the fact that it's old phone with no more android support(got 7.1.2 and i think it is the last stable one). I bought a new original battery few days ago, but it didn't provide me any battery time boost : ( ( (. I even calibrated it 2 times already. Maybe wrong ROM/Kernel. Never mind nex 5, not the topic .
I have a few questions about moto x4. The price of this phone is affordable for me in my country. It costs about 250 Euro. I am very glad of IP67, usb type C. Cortex a53 2.2ghz, 3gb ram i think its enough. 5.2 LCD with 3000mah battery should be good.
-Will the software be ever as customizable as nexus 5?
-Connected to customize - will I be able to install a dark theme?( I love that and i cant live without it, i cant stand white phone app, sms app, settings app etc). Is substratum working on stock?
-What is android one ? Its is like multi rom between Oreo and One or it's just a name for soft in devices, which will be updated very often?
-Is battery enough for a day? My nex 5 is so bad : (. 40min video drains ~~20% battery - i watch many series on it on my way in bus/tram)
-Is performance good? I don't get this proccessors. It has octa 2.2ghz and i saw that benhmakrs show subjectively low performance(at least comparing to my nex 5 2.3x4)
-Is there - vibrate on answer option in stock rom ?
-Is there double click on Power button to flashlite in stock rom? Or is it accessible by some modifcation
-Is notification diode replaceable somehow ? I heard that there's weak diode for battery notifications - any comments?
I think that's it by now.
Appriciate Your comments
No. X4 is wife's DD.
Cons:
I don't like that 13GB of the 32GB internal storage is taken up by system.
The camera is slow to take pics.
Pros:
Nice size if you don't want a big phone.
Better battery life than every phone I've had, with exception of my DD Moto Z2 Play, which is about the same.
I recommend the Z2 Play. I believe it to be the best phone I've had.
osemoka said:
-Will the software be ever as customizable as nexus 5?
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Unknown, but probably unlikely. The stock software is pretty much a bone-stock android 8.0, and the Android One version does have an unlock-able bootloader, but the development of ROMs for this device is pretty much just starting. I doubt anyone would run a 7.1.2 ROM for this device, and Oreo just came out a few weeks ago.
osemoka said:
-Connected to customize - will I be able to install a dark theme?( I love that and i cant live without it, i cant stand white phone app, sms app, settings app etc). Is substratum working on stock?
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You could manually install substratum, but that requires root. Root is available for these devices, but it's also pretty new, so success isn't guaranteed, and if you bork it, you might be on your own.
osemoka said:
-What is android one ? Its is like multi rom between Oreo and One or it's just a name for soft in devices, which will be updated very often?
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Android One is a program that Google started a few years ago for Manufacturers to sell their phones with a stock (or as close to stock as possible) version of Android. The X4 is the first North American phone to be certified under the Android One branding. It basically means that you are getting a Google phone. It's Google's way to discontinue the Nexus brand, but still offer stock android experiences on phones that are cheaper than the Pixels. (Do not confuse Android One with Oreo's Treble, which is a new feature in Oreo to allow OEMs to apply security updates easier and quicker. This phone does not seem to have Treble support as of right now).
osemoka said:
-Is battery enough for a day? My nex 5 is so bad : (. 40min video drains ~~20% battery - i watch many series on it on my way in bus/tram)
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Battery life is fantastic. Best battery life I've ever had. Most people are reporting an average of 5-7 hours of SOT. I average ~13%/hour Screen on, and about 1%/hour Screen off. I used to charge mine every other day, but now that I got a Fitbit last week, it goes about a day and a half. You could easily watch a 40 minute video on each commute.
osemoka said:
-Is performance good? I don't get this proccessors. It has octa 2.2ghz and i saw that benhmakrs sho0w subjectively low performance(at least comparing to my nex 5 2.3x4)
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What benchmarks were that? Before I got my phone, I saw Antutu benchmarks that put my old 5X and this new X4 on about the same range, and I believe the 5X was significantly faster than the 5. Anyways, this phone is plenty fast, and feels maybe a little faster than my old 5X. The only time I'm really pushing it is when it's processing HDR+ photos, as even most games I play don't stress it. It's very smooth in games, and even gets bettery batterly life when you're under load.
osemoka said:
-Is there - vibrate on answer option in stock rom ?
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Can you give more info? I'm not sure what you're talking about here. You want the phone to vibrate when you answer a phone call?
osemoka said:
-Is there double click on Power button to flashlite in stock rom? Or is it accessible by some modifcation
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There is a gesture action that you can enable to turn the flashlight on by chopping twice. It works pretty well, but I have it turned off most of the time, as I keep the quick launch icon in my status bar if I need it. It's up to you.
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-Is notification diode replaceable somehow ? I heard that there's weak diode for battery notifications - any comments?
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That's way beyond the scope of what I've seen done on this device. I don't think anyone has done any hardware mods to these phones yet. I haven't noticed that the battery warning diode is particularly dim, but I also think that's a weird thing to be nitpicking on a cheap phone such as this. It's mid-ranged phone that is solid, well-built, looks good, feels good, performs great, has exceptional battery life, has a very good camera (once you replace the crap Moto camera software), and I don't have any issues with it. Anyways, hope this helped you in your decision.
pizza_pablo said:
No. X4 is wife's DD.
Cons:
I don't like that 13GB of the 32GB internal storage is taken up by system.
The camera is slow to take pics.
Pros:
Nice size if you don't want a big phone.
Better battery life than every phone I've had, with exception of my DD Moto Z2 Play, which is about the same.
I recommend the Z2 Play. I believe it to be the best phone I've had.
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With Camera NX (https://forum.xda-developers.com/ne...d-camera-nx-v4-google-camera-zsl-hdr-t3494435) I have had almost zero shutter lag which solves that problem IMO.