Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
LimitsX said:
Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
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I didn't notice any drop in wifi or LTE connection. Battery life has been great for me..on stock you should get 5-6 hrs sot. Return process is smooth, I had returned twice and both the times I didn't have any problems
1. Haven't noticed any worse signal than I had with my oneplus one. May actually be better. On ATT.
2. No issues here. I use my 5ghz network at home and haven't noticed any particularly increased frequency in wifi drops to the point where it bothers me.
3. Battery life is fantastic. Some people get up to 10+ hours of battery life. I'm unrooted and stock (a first for me in the last 8 years) and get 26-28 hours out of each charge with SOT of 4ish hours but I use my phone for a lot of music and phone calls. Sometimes I wonder what my battery life would be if I had the time to spend 10+ hours on it per day lol.
4. No experience with returns.
Honestly man, I have zero regrets about this phone and the vast majority who have this phone feel the same way. If you're considering it, pull the trigger. Odds are you'll be quite happy with the phone.
1. In comparision to my former iPhone 6 signal strength increased quite a bit. Calls were disconnected while walking around the office before. With the 3T connection became mor stable.
2. Wifi is working well and stable - not significally better or worse than with any other wireless client.
3. I had Problems with battery drains due to hight RAM and CPU usage of "Google Play Services" and "Android System". Many already complained about this according to the AOSP/MRA bug. I did a clean re-flash with OOS 4.0.2 3 days ago. Everything is fine now... not to say awesome.
4. I have no experience with returns and refunds. Word is: With OnePlus it might become complicated but customer service reacts quickly to support requests.
Like previous speaker, I don't regret a thing. I love my 3T.
LimitsX said:
Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
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1.) I have had 2 dropped calls since I got my phone in November, LTE is slow at my house which is okay but as I get closer to the city I see speeds of 100Mbps. I am with Rogers.
2.) I have not had any Wifi drops yet.
3.) I rooted but did no other modifications, I can listen to music and have the screen on for 4 hours (to and from work on transit, reading news, facebook, etc) and play music for 6 hours over bluetooth while at work and still get home with 40% battery. Best thing is phone can charge from 30% to 95% in 1 hour while still playing music over bluetooth incase I forgot to charge at home in the morning before I leave.
4.) I have never had to do a return
LimitsX said:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
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I have the 3000 - the North American OP3T with up to date stock ROM 4.02, ie no alternate modem firmware and am using it on the Bell network.
In comparison with other smartphones I have used and my wife's current iphone, in my area I have found that it acquires and holds the network signal at least as well and better than her iPhone 6.. I haven't noticed any unexpected signal loss or disconnection... I run four Wifi networks at my home (2x5ghz and 2x2.4ghz). I have never had any problem acquiring a signal and have never noticed any unexpected signal loss.
LimitsX said:
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
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I can't state what will give you the best. However, I can say that I'm a heavy user on the stock 4.02 rom, am not (yet) rooted, and easily get 5-6 hours. Based on the use you describe, I would expect you will get longer.
LimitsX said:
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
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Fortunately, I haven't had this experience.. If you want to keep this option available, you should look into the specific limitations. Many companies have limits on use, and not just time since purchase.
LimitsX said:
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
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To be "honest and objective," I would also have to question your chosen phone models if you are on a very tight budget and just want a "decent" phone. You can get a decent new phone or last year's flagship used for much less.
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Mad Medik said:
I have the 3000 - the North American OP3T with up to date stock ROM 4.02, ie no alternate modem firmware and am using it on the Bell network.
In comparison with other smartphones I have used and my wife's current iphone, in my area I have found that it acquires and holds the network signal at least as well and better than her iPhone 6.. I haven't noticed any unexpected signal loss or disconnection... I run four Wifi networks at my home (2x5ghz and 2x2.4ghz). I have never had any problem acquiring a signal and have never noticed any unexpected signal loss.
I can't state what will give you the best. However, I can say that I'm a heavy user on the stock 4.02 rom, am not (yet) rooted, and easily get 5-6 hours. Based on the use you describe, I would expect you will get longer.
Fortunately, I haven't had this experience.. If you want to keep this option available, you should look into the specific limitations. Many companies have limits on use, and not just time since purchase.
To be "honest and objective," I would also have to question your chosen phone models if you are on a very tight budget and just want a "decent" phone. You can get a decent new phone or last year's flagship used for much less.
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Thank you so much and everyone else who replied to my questions. I appreciate it. Do you have any other decent phone or last year phone that is decent for much less? I had Galaxy S4, but it just died and tried to get it repaired, but it became worse. So thats the situation. I found Nexus 5 32GB for $135 CAD, but, i will end up paying $250 for it, which im not sure if its worth it. The phone is 3 years old, but in really mint condition though.
Every phone I've try to buy, its costing me $400-500 with taxes and unlocking fees. These are really crappy ones lol, like some 2 core snap dragon cpu and 1.5GB ram. I buy phones outright, so yeah. Cheapest is $282 with taxes, and that phone is not even worth that much, plus $50 unlocking fees.
To stay on topic, it seems like O3T seems good phone. Would any of you guys be able to comment on camera quality? I don't take a lot, but when I do, i want some good quality pictures..
So, its better to get O3T over Pixel XL?
Thanks everyone!
The Wifi drop concern comes from the many posts were saying it is dropping, weak signal strength (getting 20 Mbps - 45 Mbps at most), so i was really concerned. Even my S4 didn't go that low, which is 3.5 years old phone.
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
rajesh Kumar.1984 said:
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
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Can you tell us what version of OOS you're using. Running 4.0.2 I cannot reproduce this behavior.
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Can you tell us what version of OOS you're using. Running 4.0.2 I cannot reproduce this behavior.
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I have updated OS to 4.0.2 beta and facing this issue
LimitsX said:
The Wifi drop concern comes from the many posts were saying it is dropping, weak signal strength (getting 20 Mbps - 45 Mbps at most), so i was really concerned. Even my S4 didn't go that low, which is 3.5 years old phone.
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The 51 Mbps was when connected to 2.4Ghz wifi the over 80+ was 5Ghz
rajesh Kumar.1984 said:
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
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This post should be in bug reports, not in this thread.
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I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research Xperia Z1 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is LG G2. Thanks in advance.
Get the G2!
You will get a bigger screen, thinner bezels, Better battery life, double tap to wake and it's smaller than the z1
And the z1 has an annoying problem with the touch screen where it stops registering touches for a little while (unimaginably annoying when it happens during scrolling) and the screen looks yellow,that makes my head hurt
G2 have those touchscreen problems too (as I heard)
Maybe you should check on the LG G2's Q/A section and see the problems there (if they have one).
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I don't have touch problems. And it will get lollipop update. And don't plan to change it soon
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I would find it hard to recommend this phone to anyone.
Just to add to the issues seen by some
I have touch screen issues, in fact the whole screen is crap. The colour and brightness aren't anywhere as good as my wife's Galaxy Note 2 (yes, Note 2, not a typo. A phone more than a year older than my Z1 has a better screen). The touch screen doesn't work properly at all, you just get used it it. It's not accurate and slow to track movement of your finders. Add to that the fact that it seems to completely ignore your touches when you've been using the phone for a bit (possibly temp issues?) and it makes playing games impossible... and like @masterofnocrack said, when your dragging or trying to flick through a long list, it randomly selects something from the list and you've no idea what you just tapped on, it gets more than infuriating.
Locking up - my phone will decide at frequent times to lock up. It will not turn on from sleeping (screen off, standby, whatever it's called). I had resorted to holding VolUp+Power to force it to reboot but then found out that if I just wait it will come back on it's own. It's like some app is using 100% of the CPU and lock's the OS up. I seemed to get the problem most of the time when running apps like Endomondo where it keeps tracking GPS etc while in standby but since uninstalling Endo, its still the same. Not really a Z1 issue but more Firmware, but still a nail in the already tightly nailed down coffin. Also screws with Tasker (see below)...
I did have issues with the OS killing background apps like Tasker (which is really annoying because if Tasker gets killed, all my profiles and settings got messed up so I could be out of the house with no mobile data enabled or in the car with no bluetooth), but I rolled back a ROM version to fix that. (I'm on stock ROM/Kernel but rooted.)
I would sell my own children for a new phone, which is probably a good reason I don't have any kids.
Look somewhere else. If the G2 drops out of the running too, keep looking. DO NOT get a Z1.
I know some will disagree and perhaps think I'm being a bit harsh; and if you've got a Z1 and it works perfectly, good for you and congrats. But knowing what I know now, I wouldn't take the chance of getting a Z1 that has issues.
I have no clue what you are talking about. My wife and I both have a Z1. Hers is running on stock and mine on custom. We never had any of the issues mentioned above. So from my point of view it still is worth the money.
Some have problems and others don't, but it's it worth the gamble?
The OP should save up and get something better like the Z2 or Z3
kdarknight said:
I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research Xperia Z1 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is LG G2. Thanks in advance.
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The answer is.. Yes!
The Z1 is still hell of a beast, performance- and battery wise, around 1 year after release. It's bang for the bucks phone nowadays. Get it, and fine tune it to suit your likings. Nuff' said.
I am willing to help you out with the fine tuning, if you get this lovely ****er into your collection..
I didn't mean to piss on any one's camp fire and I'm glad for @memphis77 that his and his wife's phones both work perfectly, but I know from these forums that there have been plenty of users that have had issues, and even those that have pursued the issues with Sony have just been sent a refurbished phone that had the same issues.
It's just my opinion and personal experience that makes me say do not get a Z1.
kdarknight said:
I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research Xperia Z1 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is LG G2. Thanks in advance.
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It's so beautifull and powerfull. If you love this phone, so buy it. You won't regret it. And of course, it's still worth to buy
I'd say it depends on what you pay for it. I bought mine about a month or two ago for a little over 250 and I couldn't be more pleased.
One more thing to add, and once more, YMMV; piss-poor data rates. WiFi signal is weak at best. The WiFi signal goes down to 1 or zero bars in some rooms in my house but doesn't actually disconnect from the WiFi so the transfer speed is so slow I turn WiFi off and use either H+ or the odd 4G signal I get. You might be thinking "well you're obviously too far away from the router you pillock." Well, maybe an upstairs room is too far... maybe it's not. My wife's Note 2 can still use the WiFi all over the house, my Tab 4 can use the WiFi, my Raspberry Pi with a cheap ass god damn WiFi dongle off eBay can use the WiFi, but not this piece of crap phone.
In a decent H+ signal area, an iPhone 4 beats this with download speeds using mobile data. I have gotten 20Mb/s on 4G (1 bar in my house which was impressive but a fluke as I've never seen that speed again). Looking at speedtest results isn't exactly the be and end all of deciding which phone to get, but it's just another area this phone fails.
masterofnocrack said:
Get the G2!
You will get a bigger screen, thinner bezels, Better battery life, double tap to wake and it's smaller than the z1
And the z1 has an annoying problem with the touch screen where it stops registering touches for a little while (unimaginably annoying when it happens during scrolling) and the screen looks yellow,that makes my head hurt
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my screen is yellow too, but there is a white balance option and now my screen is perfect :3
To date, this post is for anyone that has had this phone from november december area. I have always struggled with battery dwindling on my phones. The LG G2 lasts 1.5 hours of screen time now on AOSP when it used to push almost 5hrs, and my girlfriends older droid razr m went from 3 hrs of screen time to a struggling 1 hour. I would wait for the next nexus but i hear its coming from hauei whoever they are. Im not comfortable going with that company yet. I have been looking at the Sony z3 (or waiting for the new Us versions z4 with the 2k screen) but i am abe to get this phone for 380 through my work. How is the stamina of the battery 7-8 months later?
ang1dust said:
To date, this post is for anyone that has had this phone from november december area. I have always struggled with battery dwindling on my phones. The LG G2 lasts 1.5 hours of screen time now on AOSP when it used to push almost 5hrs, and my girlfriends older droid razr m went from 3 hrs of screen time to a struggling 1 hour. I would wait for the next nexus but i hear its coming from hauei whoever they are. Im not comfortable going with that company yet. I have been looking at the Sony z3 (or waiting for the new Us versions z4 with the 2k screen) but i am abe to get this phone for 380 through my work. How is the stamina of the battery 7-8 months later?
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Had the phone since early December, no battery dwindling here, even with Quick Charge. I'm on Verizon, and I use LTE, never WiFi. I normally get 2-3 hours of screen time. If I use WiFi I can get 4 hours or so. It easily lasts me an entire day, but I struggle to get through 1.5-2 days. Keep in mind I do not underclock or undervolt. I am running AOSiP ROM and have Lean Kernel as my Kernel. But I don't underclock.
I did run the phone completely stock for about a month and got about the same battery life, maybe even slightly better. I have over 120 apps on my phone, and I have the 64GB White version. Let me know if you have any other questions!
P.S. For $380 you could easily buy the phone and sell it in a couple of months and lose nothing and still upgrade to a newer phone.
Its the best phone i ever had hands down and with a powerbank or using the quickcharger you will never run out of juice. Besides that its fast, responsive, has a great screen and dual speakers so overall i can recommend to anyone who appreciates vanilla. If you want bloat get a Sony, Samsung or LG BTW my screenontime is about 3-4 hours depending on usage and i think Huawei makes some pretty damn good phones like the Mate 7 for instance.
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Its the best phone i ever had hands down and with a powerbank or using the quickcharger you will never run out of juice. Besides that its fast, responsive, has a great screen and dual speakers so overall i can recommend to anyone who appreciates vanilla. If you want bloat get a Sony, Samsung or LG BTW my screenontime is about 3-4 hours depending on usage and i think Huawei makes some pretty damn good phones like the Mate 7 for instance.
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Do you use WiFi or LTE mainly? If LTE, what carrier?
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Do you use WiFi or LTE mainly? If LTE, what carrier?
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My carrier (T-Mobile) in the Netherlands just rolled out LTE where i live and coverage isn`t optimal yet (HSPA+). I`am about half the day on wifi and half on LTE (HSPA+).
All great info. No bloatware on the z3 international, and it's certified ip68 were the nexus can take a dunk but not certified. I agree 380 is good price it was a debate of this or s6 a and I'm leaning to this one
agree 100%
gee2012 said:
Its the best phone i ever had hands down and with a powerbank or using the quickcharger you will never run out of juice. Besides that its fast, responsive, has a great screen and dual speakers so overall i can recommend to anyone who appreciates vanilla. If you want bloat get a Sony, Samsung or LG BTW my screenontime is about 3-4 hours depending on usage and i think Huawei makes some pretty damn good phones like the Mate 7 for instance.
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I couldn't agree more. It is the best phone I ever had too. Recently I have purchased a Qi charger for the office, so i do not even use the turbocharger that sits at home. No battery deterioration noticed. Oh, and I never use the car charger.
WiFi / LTE - 50/50.
This is the best phone I've had as well, have had it since it came out end of 2014, on the Verizon network the entire time.
I'm on LTE 10-13 hours a day, and WiFi a few hours, the battery will last me from 6:30am - 10pm everyday, without charging at all, and being around 15%-25% when I am about to put it on charge during bedtime.
The phone is rooted, on AOSIP ROM, with AOSIP default kernal. The battery life is amazing. I get between 4-5 hours of screen on time. I am currently at 61% battery (6:30am to 3pm now), with 2 hours SOT.
I use Servicely to hibernate apps while phone is asleep. I also use 'App Ops' to disable 'Location' and 'Keep Awake' access for apps that don't need the access. I have Google Now and Facebook running normal all day, and WhatsApp is my preferred method of texting throughout the day.
Coming from a Galaxy Note 3, I'm a bit disappointed by the screen and battery life. Color reproduction is kinda weird and the screen is too dim in bright sunlight for me. I can live with the relatively weak battery but the screen is just...disappointing. Still, I love it and felt never so happy with a device!
HSPA+ is not LTE
Hi folks,
I just ordered a Nexus 6.
I currently have a m7vzw (Verizon HTC One M7), and cut my teeth here rigging s-off and root, and then trying many different ROMS for it. My needs are pretty simple and, as you can see from the title, I like long battery life.
I currently run Vanilla AOSP 4.4.4 and minimal edition gapps. Light email push from gmail and to MS Outlook for work. Very little surfing and phone use. No extraneous apps, and no social networking apps. I typically need to charge up every 6-7 days.
Any suggestions for some ROMS to consider here? I never exceeded 3 days on my current phone using 5.x with the same usage and configuration. I quit trying after a while.
Thanks for your time
Errrr... I guess if you leave WiFi and data off you might get a couple days if you don't use screen often? Most get 3-6hrs screen on time to give a day to a day and a half?
Probably not getting 6 days, if you are, your spending way to much for your phone, because you obviously are not using it [emoji14]
Lol seriously though. You're the type of phone user to get a months use out of a ZeroLemon battery.
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I have near-constant access to much more powerful equipment for business and gaming. I have some very specific needs that my phone addresses.
Is there a better place I could post the question? Does anyone here have the expertise to provide useful answers? Or does the sarcasm indicate that this device has stupidly low battery life, regardless of which ROM is used?
I fun stock 5.1.1 unencrypted, with Lean Kernel and a flashed.zip of the drives from the M preview.
I went from 7PM Sunday night to 3:44PM Wednesday Afternoon before charging my phone. I also have very light usage like you. That included 30+hrs of music listening, 2hrs SOT, a few camera shots and all my Google, work email, and Skype accts on ans syncing,
Seems to me that android M will work out for you.........I run M preview 3 currently and made it last weekend from unplugging Friday around 12 noon and plugged in Monday (labor day) forgot my charger at work over the weekend, but plugged in Monday around 11:30am and still had to about 25% remaining, had to use an old charger (not turbo charger) but I was afraid it would die overnight while I was sleeping and the alarm would not go off for work Tuesday. I don't remember what all my stats were, but very light usage since like I said, my turbo charger was at work
Good luck, nexus 6 is a great phone and tweaked right should yield very good standby time
Thanks
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I have near-constant access to much more powerful equipment for business and gaming. I have some very specific needs that my phone addresses.
Is there a better place I could post the question? Does anyone here have the expertise to provide useful answers? Or does the sarcasm indicate that this device has stupidly low battery life, regardless of which ROM is used?
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which rom or kernel you use will not have any influence on your battery life. battery life is determined by your personal use, your personal set up, which apps you decide to install, and very much your phone/data signal quality. everything else has very littke affect on battery. that said, i personally see about 5.5-7h screen on time. and that pretty decent. but 6 days battery, while using your device, youll never see. only if you dont use your device for long periods of time and if you have your signal turned off.
SoulSherpa said:
I have near-constant access to much more powerful equipment for business and gaming. I have some very specific needs that my phone addresses.
Is there a better place I could post the question? Does anyone here have the expertise to provide useful answers? Or does the sarcasm indicate that this device has stupidly low battery life, regardless of which ROM is used?
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lol
the device doesnt have stupid low battery, your previous experience, and expectations are stupid high.
tbh, short of turning off data when the screen is off, and having extremely light use (like almost none), i couldnt even speculate what phones could go that distance consistently, short of leaving the phone sit there like a paper weight and never using it.
not trying to be smart, just being realistic, given my experience with about a dozen flagship smart phones over the years.
the guy who commented about the zero lemon battery might have been being funny, but seriously, for the longevity you expect, you should be looking at phones that have zl support.
i have a g3 with a zl battery. with average use you can get 5 days or more, and easily increasing with lighter use.
i tested the n6 before for life with less than 1% use vs time, and it was in the range of 6 days. but that was running a premium rom and kernel and strong service always.
where the n6 excels imo is for the normal user. i have shown proof of 8 to 11 hours screen time during a normal days use consistently.
most people are happy to make it through the day, and charge nightly while you sleep. when you state an expectation of 5-6 days, the comments are undoubtedly not going to be up to your expectations.
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which rom or kernel you use will not have any influence on your battery life
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I respectfully disagree. I tried several ROMs on my current HTC One. On average, the late 4.x series lasted twice as long as the 5.x series with the same apps, usage and locations. I realize you can attribute whatever battery life fail was added to the OS as "personal set up" or "app". But it is what it is.
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lol the device doesnt have stupid low battery, your previous experience, and expectations are stupid high.
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My expectations? I've been charging my phone once a week for several months. I went through several configurations to get it that way.
Obviously my use case for the phone is different from yours. I typically use under 300 minutes talk, under 300 texts, and under 500 MB data monthly. But I depend on email push throughout the day, need text and voice when there's an issue, and need reliable data and a good screen for remoting to my servers if there's a problem.
I don't give people grief about how they use their phones. Evidently it's a fun and popular thing to do here. Good luck with that.
Thanks for the statistical info. The bulk of the battery case is duly noted as a last resort.
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I respectfully disagree. I tried several ROMs on my current HTC One. On average, the late 4.x series lasted twice as long as the 5.x series with the same apps, usage and locations. I realize you can attribute whatever battery life fail was added to the OS as "personal set up" or "app". But it is what it is.
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honestly, i have no ideas about an htc, considering that my last htc was the g1, which i got in oct of 2008, lol. but whatever rom that you use on a nexus, does not have anything in it for battery life, besides whats in it from stock android. now some kernels do add in things that can help YOU save battery, by how you use or setup your device, but they just wont save you battery on their own. well, they will, buy not enough to notice. unfortunately @SoulSherpa, many people have tried to prove me wrong over the many years ive been with android, but none have. just because people claim better battery with one rom over another, doesnt actually make it real. people believe many things, much of it is not true.
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My expectations? I've been charging my phone once a week for several months. I went through several configurations to get it that way.
Obviously my use case for the phone is different from yours. I typically use under 300 minutes talk, under 300 texts, and under 500 MB data monthly. But I depend on email push throughout the day, need text and voice when there's an issue, and need reliable data and a good screen for remoting to my servers if there's a problem.
I don't give people grief about how they use their phones. Evidently it's a fun and popular thing to do here. Good luck with that.
Thanks for the statistical info. The bulk of the battery case is duly noted as a last resort.
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its not different from mine, its different from 99.9999% of all other users.
i typically use under 50min a MONTH, under 200 texts a MONTH, and data, well im grandfathered so thats nothing to discuss.
how others use their phone is representative to how the manufacturers design them, for the average user who charges daily.
you appear to perceive my previous comments as sarcastic and statistical, the further could be from my intention.
i have a rather extensive android knowledge from helping other users for about 5 years. your expectations of any device are highly irregular.
we are merely attempting to make you aware of that, however unsuccessful at the moment...
The reason people treat your question like its weird is pretty simple:
While with minimal and careful usage phones can get through multiple days of usage, the battery life your suggesting, on any android phone, is going to require very little screen on time, limiting the hell out of its data connections, ect...
If you are seriously just trying to have an emergency phone that you can make calls on occasionally and fire up a terminal to remote into your server to check status or run a command or two.... Why are you paying for a 6inch screen with ultra HD display, a powerful processor, dual front facing speakers.... All this stuff that only serves to drain battery and add weight if your not using your phone for entertainment.
Your looking to pay extra for specs you don't need on a device with only "adequate" battery life instead of getting a modest phone that won't consume as much, with an external battery case that would probably let it run a couple weeks for you....
my nexus 5, without sim card, in airplane mode, brightness all the way down, can last me around 3 weeks. but, thats with 0 use. 6 days, with a nexus 6, should be possible, even easy enough.
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...Why are you paying...
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Because larger screens make remoting much, much easier. Especially when it's a GUI. So, a "phablet" sized phone has always been appealing.
Further, I've been waiting for a "good deal" and the price dropped to $350. My m7vzw had its radio neutered (thanks Verizon), so when I switched to Ting (t-mobile) GSM my data speed hit the floor with EDGE only. The Nexus 6 has nice radio band support.
Have you considered a small tablet? (7 inch or so). You could set up a Google voice account and do all your calls/texts over WiFi/cell data. You'd get a far better battery life with far less effort to do so, and itd be even better for remote access.
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Have you considered a small tablet?
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I have, and you make a good point. But I still want something I can holster since I don't normally carry a man-pack or utilikilt
This Nexus 6 is pushing it for size -- the holster is huge. But the screen real estate is nice.
FYI, I'm currently running CleanCore:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/rom-cleancore-vomer-100-lean-stock-03-t3059199
...and I seem to be on-track to meet or exceed the six day goal with my light usage (email checks and texts throughout the day, occasional remote, occasional surfing, occasional phone call).
My nexus 7 fits in my pocket no problem. And I'm a fairly average sized male.
I wanted to know if any of you have an M4 Aqua or Xperia Z, so i can know if it's a good "upgrade"
My Xperia Z does almost everything I want, but has terrible battery life.
My main problem is that my internet/4g keeps saying I have no connection, even though I do.
I've had issues where I can load say xda developers site, but not any other site. I find it very weird that I can load only on site, but trying to load anything else says I have no connection.
Other times I turn on data and I can't access/load some webpages. It can be the same location, but sometimes I loads and others it doesn't.
Another issue is the "No sim card" error I get from time to time. It looks to have gone away, but not sure.
Xperia M4 Aqua looks good on paper at $200-$250.
Main reason I'm interested is because it's unlocked already and has Band 12 for tmobile!
Screen is 720p, but I can deal with it honestly.
Looks like a cheaper Xperia Z3, which I like.
S4 Pro(Z) vs SD 615(Aqua)
S4 pro likely has raw power, but is SD 615 is likely more efficient.(maybe faster)
Any recommendations for under $250 and preferably have band 12?
So do you think this is a worthwhile upgrade? Any better options?
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Any recommendations for under $250 and preferably have band 12?
So do you think this is a worthwhile upgrade? Any better options?
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Search for Xiaomi Mi4i.
I've heard of them, but don't I have to import them?
Since they're not released in the US.
Rather have a phone that I can buy here and has tmobile LTE speeds.
I saw this:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-xp...lack/4346600.p?id=1219734737974&skuId=4346600
Looks decent for 5.5 1080p phone.
Also can get G2 or G3 for that price range.
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My Xperia Z does almost everything I want, but has terrible battery life.
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This can be fixed in 3 ways:
1. Using a custom rom and/or using apps like amplify and greenify
2. Replacing the battery with a new one
3. Replacing your sim card
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My main problem is that my internet/4g keeps saying I have no connection, even though I do.
I've had issues where I can load say xda developers site, but not any other site. I find it very weird that I can load only on site, but trying to load anything else says I have no connection.
Other times I turn on data and I can't access/load some webpages. It can be the same location, but sometimes I loads and others it doesn't.
Another issue is the "No sim card" error I get from time to time. It looks to have gone away, but not sure.
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The first thing you should do here is get a new sim card. sounds like yours is broken or outdated.
You can also try upgrading your baseband to the newest version
Finally a custom rom and/or kernel could clean up the remaining issues.
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Main reason I'm interested is because it's unlocked already and has Band 12 for tmobile!
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You should be able to unlock your phone with relative ease and at the very least for cheaper than buying a new one.
Also you can probably unlock band12 with the instructions available elsewhere on the forum, these explain how to open all the bands on the radio.
I can't comment on the M4 itself since i have no idea.
TLDR: Replace your sim card
Like I said the sim issue stopped completely, I just took out the sim and put it back in. No problems.
One thing I can't fix is battery draining 1-2% a minute with screen on using 4g. I always turn off data when not in use, I am trying to save as much battery.
I've had issues with data not working when it's on.
Example, xda sometimes says I have no connection. It's a lie, since another app pulls data fine. The weird issue when no websites load in any browser because no connection, but Facebook/email/YouTube work.
Honestly I just want something that can get through a day of moderate use.
10:30 am to 12:30 pm, 1-2 hour of music,15-30 min. using data screen on. Battery is usually at 70-80% by then in 2 hours of light use.
2:00 pm to 3:00, hour long video,720p. Drains like 15-30% of battery.
Watch 15 ninute YouTube video at 720p,drains like 5-15%.
The screen and data/lte on this are not efficient, which is the main problem for me.
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Like I said the sim issue stopped completely, I just took out the sim and put it back in. No problems.
One thing I can't fix is battery draining 1-2% a minute with screen on using 4g. I always turn off data when not in use, I am trying to save as much battery.
I've had issues with data not working when it's on.
Example, xda sometimes says I have no connection. It's a lie, since another app pulls data fine. The weird issue when no websites load in any browser because no connection, but Facebook/email/YouTube work.
Honestly I just want something that can get through a day of moderate use.
10:30 am to 12:30 pm, 1-2 hour of music,15-30 min. using data screen on. Battery is usually at 70-80% by then in 2 hours of light use.
2:00 pm to 3:00, hour long video,720p. Drains like 15-30% of battery.
Watch 15 ninute YouTube video at 720p,drains like 5-15%.
The screen and data/lte on this are not efficient, which is the main problem for me.
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That 4g drain could still be related to your sim card, if its more than 2 years old i would get it replaced.
It sounds to me like you are suffering from the regular mobileactive and/or play services drain.
I suggest you install this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/development/rom-official-sony-lollipop-5-1-1-t3196237
And then follow the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884
If you dont mind unlocking the bootloader then you can profit even more by using this kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z/orig-development/kernel-zombie-t3126417
Also 4g will not work if sim card isn't the right one
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Are you looking to stay within the Sony ecosystem? I would stay away from non-flagship products from Sony, I've heard things about terrible support, 16gb storage that's gimped out the box and prices far higher than equivalent devices from other manufacturers. Perhaps a OnePlus X or something?
jms_209 said:
I wanted to know if any of you have an M4 Aqua or Xperia Z, so i can know if it's a good "upgrade"
My Xperia Z does almost everything I want, but has terrible battery life.
My main problem is that my internet/4g keeps saying I have no connection, even though I do.
I've had issues where I can load say xda developers site, but not any other site. I find it very weird that I can load only on site, but trying to load anything else says I have no connection.
Other times I turn on data and I can't access/load some webpages. It can be the same location, but sometimes I loads and others it doesn't.
Another issue is the "No sim card" error I get from time to time. It looks to have gone away, but not sure.
Xperia M4 Aqua looks good on paper at $200-$250.
Main reason I'm interested is because it's unlocked already and has Band 12 for tmobile!
Screen is 720p, but I can deal with it honestly.
Looks like a cheaper Xperia Z3, which I like.
S4 Pro(Z) vs SD 615(Aqua)
S4 pro likely has raw power, but is SD 615 is likely more efficient.(maybe faster)
Any recommendations for under $250 and preferably have band 12?
So do you think this is a worthwhile upgrade? Any better options?
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M4 aqua us better than Xperia z.. Well mi 4 or one plus 2 is far more better than m4 aqua in performance and features
I'm currently rocking a galaxy s6, but I'm having a lot of delayed notifications issues with it. (i.e I receive a text message or gmail email but don't actually get notified until I open the app or like 2 hours later). I've tried factory resetting the phone, att support, google support, and Samsung support. I also tired messing around with the battery optimization, syncing interval for gmail, and a few other things but I cannot get it to fix the issue. Thus, I'm hoping someone here has an idea of what else there is to try or if all else fails, phone recommendations. Though, I'd rather try to fix the issues rather than buy a new phone.
In terms of phones, normally, I would probably go with the s8, but I'm having second thoughts on this phone because of my s6 issues. I was also considering a oneplus 5. What do you guys think?
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I'm currently rocking a galaxy s6, but I'm having a lot of delayed notifications issues with it. (i.e I receive a text message or gmail email but don't actually get notified until I open the app or like 2 hours later). I've tried factory resetting the phone, att support, google support, and Samsung support. I also tired messing around with the battery optimization, syncing interval for gmail, and a few other things but I cannot get it to fix the issue. Thus, I'm hoping someone here has an idea of what else there is to try or if all else fails, phone recommendations. Though, I'd rather try to fix the issues rather than buy a new phone.
In terms of phones, normally, I would probably go with the s8, but I'm having second thoughts on this phone because of my s6 issues. I was also considering a oneplus 5. What do you guys think?
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I went from s6 to Moto z Play, and very happy. I'm definitely staying away from carrier branded / locked down phones from here on out (I like having the option to unlock/root, even though I'm still bone stock locked with the MZP).
I had also considered the OP3T at the time. If I were in your shoes, I'd go OnePlus 5.
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I went from s6 to Moto z Play, and very happy. I'm definitely staying away from carrier branded / locked down phones from here on out (I like having the option to unlock/root, even though I'm still bone stock locked with the MZP).
I had also considered the OP3T at the time. If I were in your shoes, I'd go OnePlus 5.
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Nice. One of my friends has the Moto z Play and he loves it. Says the battery life is fantastic too. When did you make the switch from the s6 to the moto and how much did you pay for it?
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Nice. One of my friends has the Moto z Play and he loves it. Says the battery life is fantastic too. When did you make the switch from the s6 to the moto and how much did you pay for it?
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Switched the very end of last year. Paid $350 outright through republic wireless, and got 6 months of service from them for free (I had to pay $2.xx a month for taxes) with unlimited call and text, and 1gb high speed data. It was a great chance to try another carrier (obviously I have ATT since I'm here). I carried both plans - republic is great, but they use T-Mobile network, which sucks a lot of places I go, so I always carried both Sims. I use gvoice for all calls, so doing numbers didn't impact people calling me. I do typically use considerably more than 1gb a month of data as well, and the bigger data bucket republic plans aren't much cheaper than my part of a 3 line 15gb plan on ATT.
Phone itself is a huge improvement over the S6. It has taken somewhat of a hit in battery life as it's upgraded from Marshmallow to Nougat. Originally I was easily seeing 8+ hour screen on times in a day, out I could go 36 hours off charger with maybe 5h SoT. Since the upgrades it's gotten a little worse - probably 6h SoT in a day. Some people say a factory reset will restore the old battery life - if I get time to set the phone back up I might try this, but I still have never killed it in a single day, and can count on one hand the number of times I've ever plugged it in before going to bed. Performance for any of the apps I use is on par or better than the s6. It's not quite as blazingly fast as the 800 series chipped flagships, but in normal use it's not noticable to me.
Only downside is the camera. It's probably ok in terms of competition at this price point, but it is a significant, almost always noticable downgrade from the S6. This bothers me a little more than I thought it would (I knew it wasn't a great camera going in) and I will be giving a good camera more priority in my next phone purchase.
Hope that helps... Sorry for the wall of text!
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Switched the very end of last year. Paid $350 outright through republic wireless, and got 6 months of service from them for free (I had to pay $2.xx a month for taxes) with unlimited call and text, and 1gb high speed data. It was a great chance to try another carrier (obviously I have ATT since I'm here). I carried both plans - republic is great, but they use T-Mobile network, which sucks a lot of places I go, so I always carried both Sims. I use gvoice for all calls, so doing numbers didn't impact people calling me. I do typically use considerably more than 1gb a month of data as well, and the bigger data bucket republic plans aren't much cheaper than my part of a 3 line 15gb plan on ATT.
Phone itself is a huge improvement over the S6. It has taken somewhat of a hit in battery life as it's upgraded from Marshmallow to Nougat. Originally I was easily seeing 8+ hour screen on times in a day, out I could go 36 hours off charger with maybe 5h SoT. Since the upgrades it's gotten a little worse - probably 6h SoT in a day. Some people say a factory reset will restore the old battery life - if I get time to set the phone back up I might try this, but I still have never killed it in a single day, and can count on one hand the number of times I've ever plugged it in before going to bed. Performance for any of the apps I use is on par or better than the s6. It's not quite as blazingly fast as the 800 series chipped flagships, but in normal use it's not noticable to me.
Only downside is the camera. It's probably ok in terms of competition at this price point, but it is a significant, almost always noticable downgrade from the S6. This bothers me a little more than I thought it would (I knew it wasn't a great camera going in) and I will be giving a good camera more priority in my next phone purchase.
Hope that helps... Sorry for the wall of text!
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Awesome! Thank you very much for the review, it's really helpful. For me, probably the most important aspects of a phone are:
1. Reliability in terms of calls, texts, notifications, etc
2. Battery
3. Camera
4. Performance
5. All the other neat tricks and features (fingerprint sensor, water resistant/proof, etc)
I really did like my galaxy s6 until it stopped reliably being a phone. I don't know what the issue is but I can't seem to fix it so I guess I need a new phone. Though, everything else is still working great (with the exception of the battery, but that's expected from a 2 year phone).
I'm really tempted to get the oneplus 5, but at $500 it's on the fence for me. Also, I can get a s8 for around that price and the s8 seems to be a better phone overall, but... I really don't want to go with Samsung again and risk the delayed notifications.
I apologize for my rambling. Thanks again for your input!
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Awesome! Thank you very much for the review, it's really helpful. For me, probably the most important aspects of a phone are:
1. Reliability in terms of calls, texts, notifications, etc
2. Battery
3. Camera
4. Performance
5. All the other neat tricks and features (fingerprint sensor, water resistant/proof, etc)
I really did like my galaxy s6 until it stopped reliably being a phone. I don't know what the issue is but I can't seem to fix it so I guess I need a new phone. Though, everything else is still working great (with the exception of the battery, but that's expected from a 2 year phone).
I'm really tempted to get the oneplus 5, but at $500 it's on the fence for me. Also, I can get a s8 for around that price and the s8 seems to be a better phone overall, but... I really don't want to go with Samsung again and risk the delayed notifications.
I apologize for my rambling. Thanks again for your input!
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No notification issues for me on MZP.
I was skeptical of the "long touch on FP sensor to turn off screen" feature I was reading about when doing research, but now I think it is complete genius from Moto. I almost never touch the power button. Every phone should have this feature, I'm not sure id be willing to go without it. And the MZP fingerprint sensor is TONs better than the s6