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Before you bought the Xperia SP, which other mobiles were you taking into consideration and what made you choose (or not) the SP?
Long version:
Here's the thing: today I was ready - I finally went to a shop and proudly said "I want to buy the Xperia SP". Unfortunately they only had the white version so I'll have to wait one more week. This was quite disappointing because I really, really wanted it so badly and since I now have another week to decide maybe there are other/better alternatives among midrange smartphones?
Thanks!
Tons of others phones.
Optimus G, but no card slot. Nexus 4, same problem.
Galaxy S4, unfortunately far too expensive.
MI2-A, no SD slot, again.
Motorola Razr HD, CPU sucks. Same with the HTC One X+.
HTC One? No way to get a 64gb here in ****ty Europe.
So, well, the SP is the only 720p phone with a microSD slot, and a good built quality that I can afford.
Only big problem: devs support. We have DoomLord, but no one else. I'm afraid we will never get CyanogenMod.
Some time ago I've spoken with fxp. They said they need to buy phone to start development.
This device is fresh so don't expect development will start from day of release.
BTW. XSP is middle range device... This is next reason to start development later then e.g. XZ relatively.
I was considering buy N4 or XSP or wait for some time and collect more money and buy SGN2 or XZ.
C5303 is great device, powerfull, supported LTE, nice looking, with 'big' screen, made from good quality materials, with usefull transparent iluminated bar, with good quality camera and other hardware and released with 4.1.2 (Google said that phones need to be upgraded for 18 mounths from release so we can expect something above then 4.2.2 with this specs).
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Fealakwen said:
Tons of others phones.
Optimus G, but no card slot. Nexus 4, same problem.
Galaxy S4, unfortunately far too expensive.
MI2-A, no SD slot, again.
Motorola Razr HD, CPU sucks. Same with the HTC One X+.
HTC One? No way to get a 64gb here in ****ty Europe.
So, well, the SP is the only 720p phone with a microSD slot, and a good built quality that I can afford.
Only big problem: devs support. We have DoomLord, but no one else. I'm afraid we will never get CyanogenMod.
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Some time ago I've spoken with fxp. They said they need to buy phone to start development.
This device is fresh so don't expect development will start from day of release.
BTW. XSP is middle range device... This is next reason to start development later then e.g. XZ relatively.
I was considering buy N4 or XSP or wait for some time and collect more money and buy SGN2 or XZ.
C5303 is great device, powerfull, supported LTE, nice looking, with 'big' screen, made from good quality materials, with usefull transparent iluminated bar, with good quality camera and other hardware and released with 4.1.2 (Google said that phones need to be upgraded for 18 mounths from release so we can expect something above then 4.2.2 with this specs).
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Well I am thinking of getting this one. And I see no existing PA or CM support. But I used to compile my own ROMs for my Nexus (which is dead and the reason why I am getting this one) so I think I can compile for this ROM too, the only difficulty being the illumination bar API, on which I have never wrked till date.
Plus its a relatively new phone, so we will see more action once other devs buy the device too!
Cheers mates!
charliebigpot said:
Short version:
Before you bought the Xperia SP, which other mobiles were you taking into consideration and what made you choose (or not) the SP?
Long version:
Here's the thing: today I was ready - I finally went to a shop and proudly said "I want to buy the Xperia SP". Unfortunately they only had the white version so I'll have to wait one more week. This was quite disappointing because I really, really wanted it so badly and since I now have another week to decide maybe there are other/better alternatives among midrange smartphones?
Thanks!
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Are you really going to recant about buying an XPERIA™ SP just for waiting a week to get the color you want? Really? I must wait another half year to get mine and it isn't available here in Mexico still. I don't want to be mean but don't be like that. I'd wish to have your luck, about being in your situation.
There aren't better options for a midrange smartphone with the potential of this XSP, really, it'll be very worthy to wait for it.
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sarkar1990 said:
Well I am thinking of getting this one. And I see no existing PA or CM support. But I used to compile my own ROMs for my Nexus (which is dead and the reason why I am getting this one) so I think I can compile for this ROM too, the only difficulty being the illumination bar API, on which I have never wrked till date.
Plus its a relatively new phone, so we will see more action once other devs buy the device too!
Cheers mates!
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... But there is no need to implement illumination api in apps/system in begin stage. First we need fully working cm then we can think about transparent bar and it's lights Think this is not so hard to implement it. Sony release api and documentation also great will be see floating touch working like in stock rom (gloves mode).
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As of now, Best mid range phone is still SP. S3 is a bit more expensive, but SP is better than it (except for camera and if you like amoled). If you want you can wait for HTC one mini, although its only 4.3 inches and price is not yet revealed.
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cidane said:
As of now, Best mid range phone is still SP. S3 is a bit more expensive, but SP is better than it (except for camera and if you like amoled). If you want you can wait for HTC one mini, although its only 4.3 inches and price is not yet revealed.
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I believe the HTC to be far more expensive, without any expansion port, and with a huge bezel.
S3 is a good choice, yea. But the S4 mini is a complete joke. No HD, and the worst pricing ever.
Maybe, for someone that is not in a hurry, waiting for the X Phone could be a good idea. But for now, SP (and S3) rules.
Hmmm, I 1st look at N4, but it cost as much as a XZL, not worth it I guess, but getting either one will blow my budget. so I then get an XV, after three weeks a member of my local Facebook group is interested to swap his SP with My V.. He is a mobile seller who get the SP for free, but he need a waterproof phone as he ride a bike. So that how I get the SP.
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well, today I bought the SP - I like it a lot, the only downsides are:
- WIFI signal
- Camera is quite weak
- can't connect it to my Mac?! the option to access the storage in order to transfer files isn't there.. (tg there's airdroid)
I'll try it over the weekend but if the wifi is still an issue (intermittent signal 5m from the router with no walls in between!) I'll give it back and will look for an alternative.. we'll see
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well, today I bought the SP - I like it a lot, the only downsides are:
- WIFI signal
- Camera is quite weak
- can't connect it to my Mac?! the option to access the storage in order to transfer files isn't there.. (tg there's airdroid)
I'll try it over the weekend but if the wifi is still an issue (intermittent signal 5m from the router with no walls in between!) I'll give it back and will look for an alternative.. we'll see
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Battery: ok, I installed plenty of apps and had exactly 70% left. Oddly enough this morning I had 71% left so there's a calibration issue. Now after 5 hours of occasional 3g, 20 min of offline music and some messaging it's at 29%.
Photos : not impressed
Wifi and 3g: connectivity is very poor.. my old Desire was a lot better and reliable
Screen: it's on auto brightness and honestly note while typing this message the luminosity changed about 10 times, pretty annoying.
Audio: excellent!
Overheating: no
(While writing this message the battery dropped to 26%)
I am seriously considering to give it back, I like the phone but the connectivity issue seems to be h hardware related.. I'm a moment of madness I even thought about buying an iPhone5 instead..
charliebigpot said:
Battery: ok, I installed plenty of apps and had exactly 70% left. Oddly enough this morning I had 71% left so there's a calibration issue. Now after 5 hours of occasional 3g, 20 min of offline music and some messaging it's at 29%.
Photos : not impressed
Wifi and 3g: connectivity is very poor.. my old Desire was a lot better and reliable
Screen: it's on auto brightness and honestly note while typing this message the luminosity changed about 10 times, pretty annoying.
Audio: excellent!
Overheating: no
(While writing this message the battery dropped to 26%)
I am seriously considering to give it back, I like the phone but the connectivity issue seems to be h hardware related.. I'm a moment of madness I even thought about buying an iPhone5 instead..
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About battery... Battery live is good - 2+ days standard usage: sms, calling, 3g always on, about 50 minutes wifi activity, stamina on, some photos and movies.
And when I got my phone first 2 days was waring... Battery was very week. I have charged my phone about 3-4 times. And on third day battery is ok strange but I'm happy it now working correctly.
Mobile signal is ok. Like in my previous Xperia S.
Wifi is week - waiting for SW update.
Autobrightness must be improved, this is not working properly.
Camera is not so good, waiting for SW update.
Usefull transparent illumination bar. VERY VERY GOOD IDEA TO PLACE IT IN THIS PHONE!!!!
Umm. XPERIA ZR would be a perfect alternative
Phillip Wu said:
Umm. XPERIA ZR would be a perfect alternative
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Yep, indeed. Only that it's slightly bigger, heavier and more expensive. But apart from that it looks like the waterproof twin of the SP Actually, if the wifi problems still hold on I might go back to the store and try to get the ZR instead.
Well, today I gave my SP back and fetched a S4 Mini instead.
I'm not saying all SPs have the same issues as mine had, but the ones that I had (below) were pretty severe and after talking twice to the Xperia customer service and 2 factory resets they were like "just return it". I guess I was unlucky but here's what went wrong and what I really liked:
What I liked:
- Battery: after 2 full days I still had 12% left
- Screen: it's simply wonderful
- Call quality: The sound was really really good
What went wrong:
- WiFI was just horrible as I often lost signal even with the router being 3 meters away. I tried changing the router's channel/frequency but that didn't help, even my old HTC Desire has much better WiFI signal.
- Multitasking: Couldn't use 3g with Chrome (2-3 tabs open) and listen to Google Music (playing music from the SD card) at the same time as it always closed Google Music. I guess I should have seen that one coming with 1gb RAM only.
- Call issues: today all of a sudden I could only hear the other person speaking when using headphones or by activating the speaker
I am in the process of doing an upgade, I should be getting it in a couple weeks. However, when I was playing around with it at the store I had some issues with it.
1) LTE was a problem with the device, and from poking around these forums, I have noticed that other users are experiencing problems. With the demo device, the One was unable to get LTE / 4G, however the S4 that was sitting almost directly next to it was able to pick up 4G fine. Is this a big issue?
2) Does this phone support tri-band LTE? Since I know Sprint is moving to that (or already has moved to that) that would be ideal.
3) How is battery life in low signal areas for this phone? At home, even though we have an airave this only helps a very small area in the household. So in general, I am bound to be roaming or have 0 bars.
4) Design wise how is this phone? Everything I have heard it is sturdy, and when I was playing with it at the store it felt solid.
5) Any huge faults (other then the possible SIM/LTE Issue) that would be pointed out on this?
6) Do you have to do the HTC-Dev trick to unlock the bootloader? Coming from a S2 there wasn't really any need to do any of that trickery, just flash and be done.
Right now, I am trying to decide against the S4 or the One, and while the S4 has a removable battery and microsd, if the One has 32 GB of storage, that should be plenty for me as long as I can set up Folder Sync, or a tasker profile to sync images and files to my server.
I am not really a huge fan of the S4 from a Touchwiz perspective, and all the new "features" just seem sorta gimmicky to me, granted I have never really tried them but enabling them is just destined for drained battery usage. I have never really had a Google Experience Phone, I have the nexus 7, but that is a tiny bit differentm so I am not sure as to whether flashing the Google Edition Roms would be of any benefit for me.
At this stage, I am just trying to figure out the benefits of one phone over the other (apart from removable battery and microsd card).
Bump, would really appreciate some feedback.
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I am in the process of doing an upgade, I should be getting it in a couple weeks. However, when I was playing around with it at the store I had some issues with it.
1) LTE was a problem with the device, and from poking around these forums, I have noticed that other users are experiencing problems. With the demo device, the One was unable to get LTE / 4G, however the S4 that was sitting almost directly next to it was able to pick up 4G fine. Is this a big issue?
2) Does this phone support tri-band LTE? Since I know Sprint is moving to that (or already has moved to that) that would be ideal.
3) How is battery life in low signal areas for this phone? At home, even though we have an airave this only helps a very small area in the household. So in general, I am bound to be roaming or have 0 bars.
4) Design wise how is this phone? Everything I have heard it is sturdy, and when I was playing with it at the store it felt solid.
5) Any huge faults (other then the possible SIM/LTE Issue) that would be pointed out on this?
6) Do you have to do the HTC-Dev trick to unlock the bootloader? Coming from a S2 there wasn't really any need to do any of that trickery, just flash and be done.
Right now, I am trying to decide against the S4 or the One, and while the S4 has a removable battery and microsd, if the One has 32 GB of storage, that should be plenty for me as long as I can set up Folder Sync, or a tasker profile to sync images and files to my server.
I am not really a huge fan of the S4 from a Touchwiz perspective, and all the new "features" just seem sorta gimmicky to me, granted I have never really tried them but enabling them is just destined for drained battery usage. I have never really had a Google Experience Phone, I have the nexus 7, but that is a tiny bit differentm so I am not sure as to whether flashing the Google Edition Roms would be of any benefit for me.
At this stage, I am just trying to figure out the benefits of one phone over the other (apart from removable battery and microsd card).
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I can't answer 1 or 2 because I don't have LTE where I live but I've been hearing that some people get through like five to six hours on screen time on a single charge but some don't. Design wise, this phone is probably the best looking and feeling handset out right now. It can compare with the iPhone and probably is better. Feels really good. And yes you have to do the HTC Dev thing. I would suggest getting the One over the S4 but that's just me. I got it because I was tired of using TouchWiz and absolutely hated it (came from S2 as well), didn't care if it had a SD card slot or not because 32 GB is plenty like you said and because the phone is just incredible. Feels really good in the hand and Sense 5 is great. Watch review videos on both the One and the S4 to see what they each offer. In a lot, if not all, of the videos I've seen of the HTC One vs S4, the reviewer chooses the One. Its just a really good device. I don't have a lot of first hand experience with it though. Played with it a few times and loved it. My One should be here in a few days and I am really excited
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I'm not in a LTE launched area but I am in an area where LTE is spread all over and let me tell you, this phone struggles to hold LTE when you hit - 115dbm or greater. Where as other devices(my wife's s3 and my Note 2) Will hold onto 4G just fine.. And to keep a good LTE signal I have to practically fornicate with a cell site... If I could do it over again I wouldn't. Other things made me happy though such as the screen, stereo FF speakers, build materials etc...
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My One holds LTE just as good as my S3, guess it depends on how good LTE is in your city. And every review I've seen they always choose the One over the S4. You can't go wrong with this phone.
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The LTE in my area has been pretty fast, and constant, but in some cases it does drop. As stated before, I guess it just matters how good the LTE service is in your area. The phone quality is excellent, but if you weren't going to use a case, the black version of the phone chips off if you were to drop it, leaving little white marks on the otherwise good looking phone. As for battery, mine usually lasts about 8 hours with a good amount of usage (a lot of music, internet, Twitter, texting, Youtube), and usually about 14 hours if I just check everything once in a while.
Still hard to tell for me about lte - it's my first lte phone too. It works well but most people complain it doesn't pick it up as well as others. The recent update sprint pushed seems to have resolved that but I'd look for others to chime I to confirm.
Edit: also there are no triband phones yet. Htc one doesn't support the triband network.
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syed239 said:
I can't answer 1 or 2 because I don't have LTE where I live but I've been hearing that some people get through like five to six hours on screen time on a single charge but some don't. Design wise, this phone is probably the best looking and feeling handset out right now. It can compare with the iPhone and probably is better. Feels really good. And yes you have to do the HTC Dev thing. I would suggest getting the One over the S4 but that's just me. I got it because I was tired of using TouchWiz and absolutely hated it (came from S2 as well), didn't care if it had a SD card slot or not because 32 GB is plenty like you said and because the phone is just incredible. Feels really good in the hand and Sense 5 is great. Watch review videos on both the One and the S4 to see what they each offer. In a lot, if not all, of the videos I've seen of the HTC One vs S4, the reviewer chooses the One. Its just a really good device. I don't have a lot of first hand experience with it though. Played with it a few times and loved it. My One should be here in a few days and I am really excited
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Yeah, I have been reading reviews and watching videos, and so far everyone I have seen is sorta on the fence, or they end up going either way. 32 GB is nice, but, if I accidentally wipe the storage space or something goes wrong with the phone, have that SD Card in there for me to save all my pictures too, is definitely a positive. Same with the removable battery. Because otherwise, you replace the entire thing. I have held the device (albeit with the anti-theft hardware on it that is the sprint store and such). I enjoy the feel, it feels solid, I would just have to wonder how hot it gets, compared to the S4. I know my S2 gets pretty hot at times. From the reviews I read about the camera, they also favor the S4 since the HTC One's algorithms for reducing noise seem to interfere with pictures in broad daylight as well. Which is a definite negative.
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I'm not in a LTE launched area but I am in an area where LTE is spread all over and let me tell you, this phone struggles to hold LTE when you hit - 115dbm or greater. Where as other devices(my wife's s3 and my Note 2) Will hold onto 4G just fine.. And to keep a good LTE signal I have to practically fornicate with a cell site... If I could do it over again I wouldn't. Other things made me happy though such as the screen, stereo FF speakers, build materials etc...
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Yeah, the dual forward facing speakers are a definite plus. It does indeed make the sound so much stronger/better. Like I mentioned above, the build felt solid in my hand.
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The LTE in my area has been pretty fast, and constant, but in some cases it does drop. As stated before, I guess it just matters how good the LTE service is in your area. The phone quality is excellent, but if you weren't going to use a case, the black version of the phone chips off if you were to drop it, leaving little white marks on the otherwise good looking phone. As for battery, mine usually lasts about 8 hours with a good amount of usage (a lot of music, internet, Twitter, texting, Youtube), and usually about 14 hours if I just check everything once in a while.
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I would be using a case, definitely. What is your average signal area? Full bars, medium signal strength, or low? I personally live in a low signal area at home, and at school I had 5 bars, though, I don't know if they have LTE there.
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Still hard to tell for me about lte - it's my first lte phone too. It works well but most people complain it doesn't pick it up as well as others. The recent update sprint pushed seems to have resolved that but I'd look for others to chime I to confirm.
Edit: also there are no triband phones yet. Htc one doesn't support the triband network.
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Hm, thanks for confirming that. I was hoping they would have supported it considering they are going to be moving forward with tri-band lte.
On another note, has anyone used the Zoe feature? Is it all that nice or is it more or less just really stupid? When I was talking to the sales rep, he was like "Yeah, I use the zoe feature all the time with my kids" and to be honest, I think he was just trying to sell the HTC one up. Does anyone know if there are applications developed by a third party that perform a similar function?
I know this may be out of the question, but have you considered t-mobile?
Their phone is also unbranded, but it is international, GSM, gets more support from developers, uses T-Mobile's blazing fast HSDPA+ (and soon, LTE), and should cost about the same...
Zoe is nice. But not for those who use 4.1.2. It stores 20 pictures and one 3 second video. The 4.2 update fixes that, saving only 1 picture and 1 video. You can still extract your stuff though.
For me, the 32 Gb is enough. I load this thing up with huge games and I take a lot if HD video, but I always transfer it to my HDD. If you are using this on vacation, I recommend using OTG. That way you can transfer all your pictures to the flash drives.
Battery life is subpar in my opinion. Not what I would expect from a "comeback" phone. I am never able to get more than 10 hours or so of normal use. However, the custom ROMs in here apparently are way more efficient and there are people getting like 60 hours of use.
The phone gets hot. Like 101 degrees Fahrenheit hot. And you feel it. Because the entire back if the phone is like a giant heatsink. But that's better than the S4. I'm sure it gets just as hot, but cooks the hardware instead letting the heat out.
I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research Xperia Z1 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is LG G2. Thanks in advance.
Get the G2!
You will get a bigger screen, thinner bezels, Better battery life, double tap to wake and it's smaller than the z1
And the z1 has an annoying problem with the touch screen where it stops registering touches for a little while (unimaginably annoying when it happens during scrolling) and the screen looks yellow,that makes my head hurt
G2 have those touchscreen problems too (as I heard)
Maybe you should check on the LG G2's Q/A section and see the problems there (if they have one).
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I don't have touch problems. And it will get lollipop update. And don't plan to change it soon
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I would find it hard to recommend this phone to anyone.
Just to add to the issues seen by some
I have touch screen issues, in fact the whole screen is crap. The colour and brightness aren't anywhere as good as my wife's Galaxy Note 2 (yes, Note 2, not a typo. A phone more than a year older than my Z1 has a better screen). The touch screen doesn't work properly at all, you just get used it it. It's not accurate and slow to track movement of your finders. Add to that the fact that it seems to completely ignore your touches when you've been using the phone for a bit (possibly temp issues?) and it makes playing games impossible... and like @masterofnocrack said, when your dragging or trying to flick through a long list, it randomly selects something from the list and you've no idea what you just tapped on, it gets more than infuriating.
Locking up - my phone will decide at frequent times to lock up. It will not turn on from sleeping (screen off, standby, whatever it's called). I had resorted to holding VolUp+Power to force it to reboot but then found out that if I just wait it will come back on it's own. It's like some app is using 100% of the CPU and lock's the OS up. I seemed to get the problem most of the time when running apps like Endomondo where it keeps tracking GPS etc while in standby but since uninstalling Endo, its still the same. Not really a Z1 issue but more Firmware, but still a nail in the already tightly nailed down coffin. Also screws with Tasker (see below)...
I did have issues with the OS killing background apps like Tasker (which is really annoying because if Tasker gets killed, all my profiles and settings got messed up so I could be out of the house with no mobile data enabled or in the car with no bluetooth), but I rolled back a ROM version to fix that. (I'm on stock ROM/Kernel but rooted.)
I would sell my own children for a new phone, which is probably a good reason I don't have any kids.
Look somewhere else. If the G2 drops out of the running too, keep looking. DO NOT get a Z1.
I know some will disagree and perhaps think I'm being a bit harsh; and if you've got a Z1 and it works perfectly, good for you and congrats. But knowing what I know now, I wouldn't take the chance of getting a Z1 that has issues.
I have no clue what you are talking about. My wife and I both have a Z1. Hers is running on stock and mine on custom. We never had any of the issues mentioned above. So from my point of view it still is worth the money.
Some have problems and others don't, but it's it worth the gamble?
The OP should save up and get something better like the Z2 or Z3
kdarknight said:
I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research Xperia Z1 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is LG G2. Thanks in advance.
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The answer is.. Yes!
The Z1 is still hell of a beast, performance- and battery wise, around 1 year after release. It's bang for the bucks phone nowadays. Get it, and fine tune it to suit your likings. Nuff' said.
I am willing to help you out with the fine tuning, if you get this lovely ****er into your collection..
I didn't mean to piss on any one's camp fire and I'm glad for @memphis77 that his and his wife's phones both work perfectly, but I know from these forums that there have been plenty of users that have had issues, and even those that have pursued the issues with Sony have just been sent a refurbished phone that had the same issues.
It's just my opinion and personal experience that makes me say do not get a Z1.
kdarknight said:
I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research Xperia Z1 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is LG G2. Thanks in advance.
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It's so beautifull and powerfull. If you love this phone, so buy it. You won't regret it. And of course, it's still worth to buy
I'd say it depends on what you pay for it. I bought mine about a month or two ago for a little over 250 and I couldn't be more pleased.
One more thing to add, and once more, YMMV; piss-poor data rates. WiFi signal is weak at best. The WiFi signal goes down to 1 or zero bars in some rooms in my house but doesn't actually disconnect from the WiFi so the transfer speed is so slow I turn WiFi off and use either H+ or the odd 4G signal I get. You might be thinking "well you're obviously too far away from the router you pillock." Well, maybe an upstairs room is too far... maybe it's not. My wife's Note 2 can still use the WiFi all over the house, my Tab 4 can use the WiFi, my Raspberry Pi with a cheap ass god damn WiFi dongle off eBay can use the WiFi, but not this piece of crap phone.
In a decent H+ signal area, an iPhone 4 beats this with download speeds using mobile data. I have gotten 20Mb/s on 4G (1 bar in my house which was impressive but a fluke as I've never seen that speed again). Looking at speedtest results isn't exactly the be and end all of deciding which phone to get, but it's just another area this phone fails.
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Get the G2!
You will get a bigger screen, thinner bezels, Better battery life, double tap to wake and it's smaller than the z1
And the z1 has an annoying problem with the touch screen where it stops registering touches for a little while (unimaginably annoying when it happens during scrolling) and the screen looks yellow,that makes my head hurt
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my screen is yellow too, but there is a white balance option and now my screen is perfect :3
Looking for a new phone to replace my zenfone 2 (need 3G/4g radios on both sim cards) and was wondering if overheating is a big problem for you guys? I read some threads here and it looks like those who are not having problems are running the stock rom that came with the phone. Any issues with custom/aftermarket roms?
I have Z5 who has same chipset like Z3+ and I have no problems and neither you if you not play much hard intensive games and not record much 4K videos.
Phone work just fine and I have no overheating untill yet.
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I do play a game which heats up my oppo find 7 a bit (snapdragon 801) so im assuming ill have some heating issues. I dont care much for 4k video however.
if you are planning to play games, dont buy the phone.
Im trying to play pokemon go with my gf (and her 2 year old samsung s5) and the battery tanks quicker on the z3+ while also the screen turns really dark so that I cant see whats happening on the screen if Im not standing in shadows.
if you are not planning to play games its a really great phone for a cheap price. The sound (with noise cancellation) , battery, gps and camera is great
If you decide to buy one backup DRM keys and root, for the sake of throttling there is kernels and slim stock based roms. I have sunkernel running with Nagasaki rom and all cores set to 1.6 Ghz and thermal configuration replaced to minimize throttling. It gets warm but at least performance doesn't nose dive. In my opinion I enjoyed my z3 more and now I'm considering moving away from Sony due to in my eyes they have taken many steps back recently. For a company that has specialized in all areas of technology it seems they hold back on their mobile sector.
im not too concerned about the batt life playing games. Im usually plugged in when gaming. Plus gaming isnt anywhere near the biggest factor to getting a new phone. Seems like doing regular things, this thing wont be overheating. Maybe the overheating issue will help me play less haha!
I do love the z3+ for its dual sim (i assume both are 3G+ whereas the zenfone 2 i have is only 2g on one sim card slot which severely limits me), dedicated sd slot and a decent processor in a small form factor. Im done with 5.5in+ phones.
Im actually not too brand loyal. Whoever makes a decent phone with the specs I want gets my cash. It used to be HTC, then Fujitsu, then Oppo, then Asus and now Sony. If Sony tanks, well then onto the next manufacturer!
Temperature depends on where you live. For Antarctica or Iceland, its a very good phone.
I must add here, while on ATT in Los Angeles and in Tokyo, the Z4 (3+) is a 100% dream to use on 6.0.1 with zero heat ( for me ) battery lasting hours on end, day after day....
...but just now using the same phones in Seoul with a new 3G only OLLEH sim has resulted in massive heat issues and battery drain on all 6 of my Z4/Z3+ phones ( Japan versions, UK versions and HK versions ) so it will depend greatly on your carrier, it would seem.
DZH1 said:
I must add here, while on ATT in Los Angeles and in Tokyo, the Z4 (3+) is a 100% dream to use on 6.0.1 with zero heat ( for me ) battery lasting hours on end, day after day....
...but just now using the same phones in Seoul with a new 3G only OLLEH sim has resulted in massive heat issues and battery drain on all 6 of my Z4/Z3+ phones ( Japan versions, UK versions and HK versions ) so it will depend greatly on your carrier, it would seem.
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This is interesting. Ill have to check what OS its running when I get it.
ATT mvno H20 over here in San Francisco. Im not sure what regular voice uses but I usually have my data turned off until i really need it. Planning to use H20 on sim 1 and then a freedompop 3G sim on sim 2. This is news to me that different radios use different power. Very interesting!
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This is interesting. Ill have to check what OS its running when I get it.
ATT mvno H20 over here in San Francisco. Im not sure what regular voice uses but I usually have my data turned off until i really need it. Planning to use H20 on sim 1 and then a freedompop 3G sim on sim 2. This is news to me that different radios use different power. Very interesting!
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Update: after a good solid day with the Korean sims, both devices I'm using ( z3+ ) run with very little heat... this may have been a reception issue or just something about where I was located. Seems ok now and almost running as cool as they run on ATT in the USA.
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Update: after a good solid day with the Korean sims, both devices I'm using ( z3+ ) run with very little heat... this may have been a reception issue or just something about where I was located. Seems ok now and almost running as cool as they run on ATT in the USA.
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good to know thanks! Bought the phone. Cant wait to see if this one is a keeper.
Just got in the phone. been playing games on it non stop. it gets warm but i think the term "overheat" is blown out of proportion. This thing gets no hotter than my Oppo Find 7 (snapdragon 801) under heavy load. It does run warmer under normal loads than my Oppo however. Hasnt rebooted either by itself on me. So far absolutely LOVING this phone.
Hi! Could you tell me what firmware do you have currently?? Cheers
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Don't get it. overheats still on 6.0.1. maybe takes 2 pics before the camera shuts down. Go for a Nexus 6P instead, I sure wish I had. NO MORE SONY.
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Just got in the phone. been playing games on it non stop. it gets warm but i think the term "overheat" is blown out of proportion. This thing gets no hotter than my Oppo Find 7 (snapdragon 801) under heavy load. It does run warmer under normal loads than my Oppo however. Hasnt rebooted either by itself on me. So far absolutely LOVING this phone.
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Awesome... I'm Planning to buy it for gaming, so I was worried about this overheat... I think I'm gonna buy it too.
I have several of this device and just received the latest firmware on many of them, which completely eradicated the heating issue....
When you factor in the Superior in hand feel, the screen, and price, this (to me) is THE Xperia to beat.
Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
LimitsX said:
Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
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I didn't notice any drop in wifi or LTE connection. Battery life has been great for me..on stock you should get 5-6 hrs sot. Return process is smooth, I had returned twice and both the times I didn't have any problems
1. Haven't noticed any worse signal than I had with my oneplus one. May actually be better. On ATT.
2. No issues here. I use my 5ghz network at home and haven't noticed any particularly increased frequency in wifi drops to the point where it bothers me.
3. Battery life is fantastic. Some people get up to 10+ hours of battery life. I'm unrooted and stock (a first for me in the last 8 years) and get 26-28 hours out of each charge with SOT of 4ish hours but I use my phone for a lot of music and phone calls. Sometimes I wonder what my battery life would be if I had the time to spend 10+ hours on it per day lol.
4. No experience with returns.
Honestly man, I have zero regrets about this phone and the vast majority who have this phone feel the same way. If you're considering it, pull the trigger. Odds are you'll be quite happy with the phone.
1. In comparision to my former iPhone 6 signal strength increased quite a bit. Calls were disconnected while walking around the office before. With the 3T connection became mor stable.
2. Wifi is working well and stable - not significally better or worse than with any other wireless client.
3. I had Problems with battery drains due to hight RAM and CPU usage of "Google Play Services" and "Android System". Many already complained about this according to the AOSP/MRA bug. I did a clean re-flash with OOS 4.0.2 3 days ago. Everything is fine now... not to say awesome.
4. I have no experience with returns and refunds. Word is: With OnePlus it might become complicated but customer service reacts quickly to support requests.
Like previous speaker, I don't regret a thing. I love my 3T.
LimitsX said:
Hey,
so I am interested in buying oneplus 3T 64GB model..
I wanted to buy Pixel XL, but the Canadian dollar price for it is $1185 ~ $1200 CAD for 32GB. That is just too much, as a student, i can't afford it. Even OnePlus 3T is over-priced, but I can manage it.
Having said that, I have no smart phone at this moment :\ . I've been reading threads regarding O3T, and I need a smart phone though so if someone can honestly answer them please, I would appreciate it:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
Please , be honest and objective. Thank you!
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1.) I have had 2 dropped calls since I got my phone in November, LTE is slow at my house which is okay but as I get closer to the city I see speeds of 100Mbps. I am with Rogers.
2.) I have not had any Wifi drops yet.
3.) I rooted but did no other modifications, I can listen to music and have the screen on for 4 hours (to and from work on transit, reading news, facebook, etc) and play music for 6 hours over bluetooth while at work and still get home with 40% battery. Best thing is phone can charge from 30% to 95% in 1 hour while still playing music over bluetooth incase I forgot to charge at home in the morning before I leave.
4.) I have never had to do a return
LimitsX said:
1.) Network Reception; how is it? Does the cell phone signal drop (especially LTE?), any random disconnection? How is the signal strength?
2.) WiFi reception; how is it? I heard it is weak and there is frequent connection drops spontaneously, and sometimes it doesn't even connect (5GHZ or 2.4GHZ)? Is someone is not affected by this?
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I have the 3000 - the North American OP3T with up to date stock ROM 4.02, ie no alternate modem firmware and am using it on the Bell network.
In comparison with other smartphones I have used and my wife's current iphone, in my area I have found that it acquires and holds the network signal at least as well and better than her iPhone 6.. I haven't noticed any unexpected signal loss or disconnection... I run four Wifi networks at my home (2x5ghz and 2x2.4ghz). I have never had any problem acquiring a signal and have never noticed any unexpected signal loss.
LimitsX said:
3.) Battery life; do I have to root it and modify settings with custom kernel, to get the best battery life? Or, stock software provides decent battery life (5-6hrs SOT)? I use phone for browsing, whatsapp, texting, some 5-10 minute Youtube videos, and Swipe (Facebook app).
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I can't state what will give you the best. However, I can say that I'm a heavy user on the stock 4.02 rom, am not (yet) rooted, and easily get 5-6 hours. Based on the use you describe, I would expect you will get longer.
LimitsX said:
4.) How is the return and refund policy with this company? If I decide to return the phone within 15 day period, its easy to do that or there might be complication? Has anyone able to get the full refund?
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Fortunately, I haven't had this experience.. If you want to keep this option available, you should look into the specific limitations. Many companies have limits on use, and not just time since purchase.
LimitsX said:
Thank you guys for the help! I am very tight on budget (student life), and just trying to find a decent phone that works.
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To be "honest and objective," I would also have to question your chosen phone models if you are on a very tight budget and just want a "decent" phone. You can get a decent new phone or last year's flagship used for much less.
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Mad Medik said:
I have the 3000 - the North American OP3T with up to date stock ROM 4.02, ie no alternate modem firmware and am using it on the Bell network.
In comparison with other smartphones I have used and my wife's current iphone, in my area I have found that it acquires and holds the network signal at least as well and better than her iPhone 6.. I haven't noticed any unexpected signal loss or disconnection... I run four Wifi networks at my home (2x5ghz and 2x2.4ghz). I have never had any problem acquiring a signal and have never noticed any unexpected signal loss.
I can't state what will give you the best. However, I can say that I'm a heavy user on the stock 4.02 rom, am not (yet) rooted, and easily get 5-6 hours. Based on the use you describe, I would expect you will get longer.
Fortunately, I haven't had this experience.. If you want to keep this option available, you should look into the specific limitations. Many companies have limits on use, and not just time since purchase.
To be "honest and objective," I would also have to question your chosen phone models if you are on a very tight budget and just want a "decent" phone. You can get a decent new phone or last year's flagship used for much less.
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Thank you so much and everyone else who replied to my questions. I appreciate it. Do you have any other decent phone or last year phone that is decent for much less? I had Galaxy S4, but it just died and tried to get it repaired, but it became worse. So thats the situation. I found Nexus 5 32GB for $135 CAD, but, i will end up paying $250 for it, which im not sure if its worth it. The phone is 3 years old, but in really mint condition though.
Every phone I've try to buy, its costing me $400-500 with taxes and unlocking fees. These are really crappy ones lol, like some 2 core snap dragon cpu and 1.5GB ram. I buy phones outright, so yeah. Cheapest is $282 with taxes, and that phone is not even worth that much, plus $50 unlocking fees.
To stay on topic, it seems like O3T seems good phone. Would any of you guys be able to comment on camera quality? I don't take a lot, but when I do, i want some good quality pictures..
So, its better to get O3T over Pixel XL?
Thanks everyone!
The Wifi drop concern comes from the many posts were saying it is dropping, weak signal strength (getting 20 Mbps - 45 Mbps at most), so i was really concerned. Even my S4 didn't go that low, which is 3.5 years old phone.
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
rajesh Kumar.1984 said:
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
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Can you tell us what version of OOS you're using. Running 4.0.2 I cannot reproduce this behavior.
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Can you tell us what version of OOS you're using. Running 4.0.2 I cannot reproduce this behavior.
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I have updated OS to 4.0.2 beta and facing this issue
LimitsX said:
The Wifi drop concern comes from the many posts were saying it is dropping, weak signal strength (getting 20 Mbps - 45 Mbps at most), so i was really concerned. Even my S4 didn't go that low, which is 3.5 years old phone.
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The 51 Mbps was when connected to 2.4Ghz wifi the over 80+ was 5Ghz
rajesh Kumar.1984 said:
Hi xda,
I found a serious bug in OP3T, when the phone is locked and I double tap the screen wakes up, then when swipe to open camera from the the lock screen the camera app starts, when the press back button it should go the lock screen. But it's unlocking the device going into the main screen.
What is the purpose of finger print scanner and pin code lock. Any body can unlock the device by this. Please rectify this serious security bug.
OP3T is at risk.
Thanks
Rajesh
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This post should be in bug reports, not in this thread.
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