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Froyo + WiFi = disabled connections

So ever since I've gotten my Nexus One I've been noticing it drops out of a WiFi way too often. It does it both at home and at work on Wireless routers using the latest firmware. I've set the sleep policy to never go to sleep but most of the times I wake my phone up, I'll find it on 3G instead of the full strength WiFi it should be on. On 2.1 when I'd go into WiFi settings it would show the connection and say something along the lines of "Connection unsuccessful, tap to try again" and on 2.2 it just says "Disabled, Secured by blah blah blah". If I retry, it ALWAYS connects and WiFi will stay active for a short period of time before falling back to 3G.
Is there some way I can tell Android to retry the WiFi connection if it fails instead of just giving up? I've been looking through the WiFi API's on the Android Developer site and I'm this close to writing an application that will attempt to mitigate this issue for me.
If I'm within range of one of my pre configured networks, I want the phone to try it's hardest to stay on WiFi. If it loses connection, retry. It it can't get it after 5 retries, wait five minutes and try it again, don't just give up and mark the connection as disabled.
I've read tons of threads about people with WiFi issues and people always say "it's the router, it's the channel, etc, etc" but my WiFi works perfectly fine as long as there is a human to reconnect it if it drops.
Anyone else in the same boat as me?

ok so apparently I'm the only one with an N1 and a WiFi issue.......

I have the same exact issues.

I have the same issue as well and if it stays on I have to turn wifi off and back on so it will connect properly
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same issue here. i had been looking for an app that would force the connectivity, but the market doesn't seem to have it. just a bunch of crappy wifi on/off switcher management apps. i'm surprised that no one has hacked this function or built an app for it.

It's certainly a very annoying problem. Mine will go to known good wifi networks, at work, at home and at other locations where my other devices work flawlessly. I have a coworker with the exact same firmware (we updated using the same file) on a nexus one that has never seen this problem, which I find odd, but I'm fairly new to Android. It looks like a software or driver issue to me, but as I said, I'm new to Android.
My device shows the known networks as "Disabled", but I can connect manually.

Looks like it's worth me coding up an App to fix this then.

what kernel are you using? i used to have that problem but that has gone away with newer kernels. unfortunately a new problem has arisen where after being in standby for a while, wifi shows as connected but doesn't have an outside ip. wondering if its my rogers modem or not.

y2whisper said:
what kernel are you using? i used to have that problem but that has gone away with newer kernels. unfortunately a new problem has arisen where after being in standby for a while, wifi shows as connected but doesn't have an outside ip. wondering if its my rogers modem or not.
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2.6.32.9-27220-g328f560
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I've never tried a new kernel.. Is this something I should look into?

I'm running the same kernel.

BootsSiR said:
Looks like it's worth me coding up an App to fix this then.
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Personally I wouldn't do any work towards writing an app to fix this since it looks to me to be an OS or driver issue that should be resolved in a future release (hopefully in very short order).
An app would really just be a band-aid, but I'm the lazy type and I can deal with using my cell ular data when I don't feel like reconnecting my wifi.
Full disclosure: I'm a crummy programmer and it takes me forever to write stuff so I'm usually less inclined to do it.

w9ndb said:
Personally I wouldn't do any work towards writing an app to fix this since it looks to me to be an OS or driver issue that should be resolved in a future release (hopefully in very short order).
An app would really just be a band-aid, but I'm the lazy type and I can deal with using my cell ular data when I don't feel like reconnecting my wifi.
Full disclosure: I'm a crummy programmer and it takes me forever to write stuff so I'm usually less inclined to do it.
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I'd rather take the time to fix it then wait for an update that may never arrive. Always fun digging into the API anyways

That's cool. I still find it a bit troubling, though, that some devices see it and some don't, using the same firmware, on the same wireless networks.
I guess it could be a board rev. difference or an app conflict or something. ::shrugs::

I have a similar problem. I use APNdroid to keep cellular data off and use wifi, but I continually have to reconnect wifi no matter what if I am not actively using it. Defeats the purpose of push email.
I downloaded APNdroid after checking data usage and finding that with wifi on there was still significant 3G leakage. Especially confusing with wifi set to never sleep and plugged in overnight.
On the plus side, APNdroid has netted me a lot more battery life, I can almost get two days and one night. I almost never use my spare battery anymore.

Just as an additional data point, I am having the exact same issue with 2.2 FRF83 (I had been on FRF50).
It looks to me like it is simply scanning all of the time and never associating with a known network. I'm not sure why it flags them as "Disabled", however.

Have you guys tried to set the "wi-fi sleep policy" to "never"
if not, try this:
Wifi settings->menu->advanced->wifi sleep policy->Never

safeplayer22 said:
Have you guys tried to set the "wi-fi sleep policy" to "never"
if not, try this:
Wifi settings->menu->advanced->wifi sleep policy->Never
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Yeah, it doesn't help, that was one of the first things I tried. Any time I leave and come back, the networks show as "Disabled". It's a frustrating issue in that it isn't consistant. It's 80% fail, 20% work.

I had my g1 for a year now and just now got my n1. I havent rooted it b/c of this bug. At first i couldnt listen online radio b/c as soon the display went out it would buffer the whole time. I played with the wifi router and the n1 wifi settings an managed to fix it somehow, BUT when i wake up in the morning for some od reason it lost connection and never reconnected again. So i can hear online radio with the display out but after some hours w/o online radio and just in standby it loses wifi connection and never connects again
This issue is not new. There is a thread on the google forum many pages long. Nobody hase even a clue where it could come from. Some1 on the forum said if u call support they will tell its ur routers fault.
The n1 completly ignores the sleep policy settings.
I have rooted two g1s with goldcard and still using one w/o a problem.
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Zapo said:
I had my g1 for a year now and just now got my n1. I havent rooted it b/c of this bug. At first i couldnt listen online radio b/c as soon the display went out it would buffer the whole time. I played with the wifi router and the n1 wifi settings an managed to fix it somehow, BUT when i wake up in the morning for some od reason it lost connection and never reconnected again. So i can hear online radio with the display out but after some hours w/o online radio and just in standby it loses wifi connection and never connects again
This issue is not new. There is a thread on the google forum many pages long. Nobody hase even a clue where it could come from. Some1 on the forum said if u call support they will tell its ur routers fault.
The n1 completly ignores the sleep policy settings.
I have rooted two g1s with goldcard and still using one w/o a problem.
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Well, I know fore a fact it's not my access point. I am a network engineer and worked on wireless systems for years and debugging these types of problems is something I'm a bit obsessive about. This stinks of a software or driver problem to me. It could potentially be a hardware revision issue since we have a N1 that works perfectly in all scanerios.
I've tested this with the following access points:
Apple Airport Extreme
Apple Airport Express
Meru
Cisco 1231
Cisco 350
Belkin pre-n
Linksys WRT54G stock
Linksys WRT54G dd-wrt (I forget the build number)
Soekris Engineering running pfSense
All exhibit the same behavior, while my control devices (Apple iPhone 3g, Apple Macbook Pro and a MyTouch 3g running Cyanogen 2.1).
I wasn't aware that this was related to rooting, I'd be more than happy to move back to a stock ROM if that solved my problem. Maybe I'll try that today if I get some time.
Could you possibly post a link to the google forum you're referencing?
I'm currently digging through the alogcat output to see if there is anything interesting in there.

This issue is worse since I upgraded to 83. I'm actually holding off to try CM6 when it comes out to see if there is any better performance there. I'm not sure if he uses updated drivers or kernel that may give better wifi performance.

[Q] LG Revolution Internet Cuts Out

Hello All,
I have been in battle with Verizon ever since I first got the service with my Thunderbolt. The internet would run for about 15 minutes and then drop connection even though everything said it had an internet connection. Verizon has had me change out the SIM card, reboot the phone, reset to factory, made sure that always on data was enabled. I have used multiple different tethering applications such as PDANet and EasyTether along with rooting my phone and installing wifi apps. (they don't know about the root). I have been through 4 thunderbolts, all had the same problem. Internet would run for about 15 minutes or less and then stop working. Verizon checked out the network and said everything was fine. I now have a LG Revolution and am having the same problems again. So I know its not a phone issue. I read on here that turning off voice privacy can possibly fix this problem. So I did. I pinged google and at 13 minutes into it started to fail. It would time out or if it did successfully ping the time it took was above 3000 ms. I have a 3G connection of -82dBm (4G currently turned off for trouble shooting purposes) and a 1x connection of -90dBm. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Verizon help is useless so im going to you guys who are much more knowledgeable than they are. I have also tried this on several different PCs. I have to reboot my phone to get the internet working properly again.
Sorry about the long post but its all information you guys need to know.
Thanks,
locohammerhead

Phone calls are like this on my phone. Its a call dropping fool. But, the signal doesn't cause it, it doesn't change. I think its the software myself. I've run log cat, and all i see is a message that says there was a signal change. I dobt know if its an instantaneous thing that i cant see happen, or if its a crock of shinto.
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but my problem isnt with calls being dropped. Its with my internet connection.

Right, but its still over the 3G network. People are having texting issues as well. I think its LG's radio software, is what im saying.
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i dont think it has to do with software because I had the same problem on four different thunderbolts. I also rooted it and tried multiple different roms and radios. So unless LG and HTC all use the same radios odds are thats not the problem.

Well, my Xoom runs fine on 3G,and it doesn't have a 4G radio yet. So I doubt it's Verizon.
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I was thinking maybe there is something wrong with my account or sim card? The girl that set everything up originally was a complete and utter moron that did not know what what was doing.

temporary problems.
Earlier on when I got my phone I had intermittent connectivity issues, but toggling airplane mode on and off or a reboot usually fixed it...and for longer than 15 min, more like days. I'm in a 4G area now, but for about a month and a half only had 3G. Occasionally I still loose connectivity but both methods I just spoke of will fix it for the long term.
It seems very odd that it's not a widespread problem. It’s just so weird. I can stream several Netflix movies back to back without any breaks, even on 3G.
STOCK LG Revolution

Same Here
I run into this same problem while tethering whether on LTE or 3g. It runs great for a while, hours even, then all the sudden it will quit for anywhere from a minute to an hour or more. Sometimes a reboot will fix it. Interesting thing is I ran into the same problem with my old motorola droid. Make me lean towards this being an issue on verizon's end.

Does this occur when you are connected to wifi or only on 3G/1x? Have you tried testing in different locations with varying signal strengths?
Do you have the problem without root?
I'm wondering if this is an issue with your local network, meaning Verizon's network in your area. Since it happened on two different models and several phones, it would seem to indicate that it is an environment issue rather than a radio or other hardware problem.

I have a similar issue, but with text messages. I can send 3-5 text messages before it just chokes up. Then I have to reboot, or turn airplane mode on/off. Then I can send 3-5 text messages before it chokes again. I've done everything I can think of to isolate the problem, to no avail.
If anyone has a solution to his, please let me know. It's almost worse than not being able to make phone calls.
I also experience the Internet issue, but less frequently. It;s not my ROM, because I've used three different ROMs (including stock) and it was a problem on all of them. I saw on some other forum that it may be an issue generated by switching from a 3G phone to a 4G phone. If the VZW rep who setup your phone didn't do everything right, there's a "behind the scenes" setting that sometimes fails to get changed. The suggestion was to dial *611, describe the problem, and they should be able to fix it (though it may take 2-3 days).
I plan on trying this tomorrow, will let you know if I experience any changes. If anyone else has done this or wants to try it, post your results, and lets see if we can get this figured out.

speedtrap63 said:
Does this occur when you are connected to wifi or only on 3G/1x? Have you tried testing in different locations with varying signal strengths?
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Does not occur with wifi. Happens both at my house which has weak signal and also at my work about 20 miles away. At my work, the tower is practically in the parking lot.
Do you have the problem without root?
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I'm wondering if this is an issue with your local network, meaning Verizon's network in your area. Since it happened on two different models and several phones, it would seem to indicate that it is an environment issue rather than a radio or other hardware problem.
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Those are my thoughts as well.

impherring13 said:
Does not occur with wifi. Happens both at my house which has weak signal and also at my work about 20 miles away. At my work, the tower is practically in the parking lot.
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Those are my thoughts as well.
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This is almost certainly a VZW problem, whether they will acknowledge it or not is an open question. The only other things I can think of is a bad SIM card or incorrect programming of the SIM. The OP stated that Verizon swapped his out, so that leaves only the programming or the network.
Wish I had a better answer for you, bro.

My internet connection just started messing up with me today too. The internet will work fine with 4g and wifi but i get no internet connection with 3g only...

I have the exact same problem as the OP.
Really pisses me off. Want to throw vzw out the window and go back to a feature phone sometimes.
Vzw customer support is less than helpful. One will say your phones the problem, but why did I have the exact issue with my Incredible. Another will say its because I live in a fringe market area and we aren't really an important part of the network. WTF?
All I know is when I lived in Cincinnati everything worked fine. Moved up north and about 6 to 8 months later my service slowly starts sucking more and more to the point where I don't even bother looking up info on my Revo anymore.

I got my replacement LG Rev exactly one week ago to today. This one is all sorts of connection/rebooting issues.
Also unfortunately the update was already on my phone when I got, so no root for me
WiFI wont stay connected even if i'm 3ft from my router.
Phone will lose ALL signal and drop in to extend, and I'm only 1 mile from a strong 3g/4g tower.
Whenever i would pop it to airplane mode then back on, it would reboot.
I have 4 days before its been 1 month with this phone. I'm close to sending it back and getting the HTC TB or Droid 3.

In a test of patients I reset my phone to factory default, removed CWM and it updated to v6. I have to say the network connection was the most stable I have ever had it be but in turn the phone was not as smooth. Changing between screens had lag and was not as smooth as the original rom that shipped on the phone.
I have since down graded and re-rooted. The signal is not as stable either.

I was having same issue, especially with certain sites, including my own website for my business.
So far, what has fixed the issue, at least through Linux Network Settings, is setting the MTU to 1300. No other number has worked so great to date, but that seem to load everything and keep everything fast and quick with little issues.
-Cybie
EDIT: Upon further reading, I'm wondering if my reply was not quite on track. Is this problem on the phone itself, or via hotspot/tethering? It seems to be on the phone, so my reply might be way of course.

[Q] Droid 4 connection issues

Has anyone else noticed their DROID 4 dropping data connectivity seemingly randomly and requiring a reboot to pick it back up? I know that I am...and I'm wondering if Motorola can't make it hang onto a data connection how hash is ever going to mmake it work right.

I haven't had any issues with data at all... LTE/3G handoffs work perfectly and everything ...And no worries, I am confident the data issues will be sorted out on the ics builds!

I have them issues. If connected via wifi no problem. But still wont be connected to the network. Requires a reboot to aquire network back
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podspi said:
I haven't had any issues with data at all... LTE/3G handoffs work perfectly and everything ...And no worries, I am confident the data issues will be sorted out on the ics builds!
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Are you running on a rooted DROID 4 with safe strap installed? Just trying to narrow down the possibilities.

For the record.
Rooted and safestrap installed running stick
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liquidoc said:
Are you running on a rooted DROID 4 with safe strap installed? Just trying to narrow down the possibilities.
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Rooted stock, no safestrap.
Though I doubt safestrap is causing data issues, or fixing them for that matter.
While I do plan on flashing some custom ROMs at some point, I have to admit that I'm very happy with the stock rom. Performance is very good, smart actions are actually pretty great (though there are of course 3rd party apps that do the same thing), and the camera app works pretty well.
My only complaint are the window transitions, blech. Yea, you can disable them, but then all the eye candy goes away completely! Ah Moto, why no middle ground?

I have had data connection issues on all the ICS ROMs but data on stock has been pretty solid.

Did you just port your number from another carrier to verizon? I had the same issue plus some and called verizon and they fixed it on their end. Hope this helps.
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I had a few problems with my data just going out for a few minutes on the stock rom. I would be browsing the web, and then a page would just not load. I noticed my signal indicator was grey and not blue, and thus I wasn't getting a data connection. I just waited a few minutes and it came back up.
I never really though too much into it because I expect these small things to happen on such a big wireless network.

deturbanator said:
I had a few problems with my data just going out for a few minutes on the stock rom. I would be browsing the web, and then a page would just not load. I noticed my signal indicator was grey and not blue, and thus I wasn't getting a data connection. I just waited a few minutes and it came back up.
I never really though too much into it because I expect these small things to happen on such a big wireless network.
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This is exactly what happens to me. It almost seems like a session timing out and renewing but I don't have a clue how the LTE network works.

Had the same data issue.. went to Verizon store and got a new SIM card (free) and problems cleared right up. Evidently the old SIM card did not get activated properly in their system.

I'm also having connection problems from time to time. I'm in a 3G only area. I'm running a stock non-rooted phone. Usually, I can get the connection back with a reboot. It's still a pain in the ass, I shouldn't have to deal with. I've called Verizon a few times. Its like talking to a wall with them. They act like you are the dumbest person in the world. Hopefully the next update can clear this problem.
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After dealing with this problem for over 2 months I finally found an answer.
I have had this problem since day 2 and after getting the run around several times at the Verizon store (They claimed it was because they were upgrading to LTE in the area, which they said we'd have within 1 month over 2 months ago) they told me there was nothing they could do and suggested I call tech support (I don't know why I didn't think of that). I called tech support and talked to a very helpful woman, after describing my problem to her she asked me what phone I had, she knew the issue right after I told her it was the Droid 4. She told me it was a well known issue with the Droid 4 and that they expect a patch to be released at the end of the month (July) that would address the problem. She said that some people have had temporary success with toggling airplane mode (this has never worked for me but rebooting a few times does) and that having WiFi on, even when your not connected, can knock your data connection out (I have been able to reproduce this once so far).
So that's it. Keep your WiFi off when you don't need it, reboot when you have problems, and hopefully it will be fixed at the end of July.
I'm very disappointed with my Verizon store. Some of the employees I talked to owned a Droid 4 themselves and said they had the same problem and still claimed it was tower work. Either they were misinformed, stupid, or they were lying to me (who wants to buy a broken phone).

My Droid 4 does this in 4G mode. I've read that it's due to the nature of SIM cards. The network constantly vets and authorizes the card's access. If this vetting fails, you get the "white out", as I call it. It might clear up on the next pass, or you might have to reboot. My "solution" is to keep it in 3G mode. As for getting a fix at the end of the month, I'm not holding my breath, as I've read that that's VZW's standard response to just get the customer to shut up and go away.

I've been having the data dropping issue as well for the past few weeks. Running stock GB, rooted with safe strap, but have yet to flash a custom ROM. I thought the issue might be because I'm on a legacy Alltel plan with PRL 14012, which is way outdated...
Well, today I believe I finally found the source of what was causing the issue for me personally, from an unexpected source...Flipboard.
I've found myself glancing at it a bunch at red lights when I'm driving, or sitting in a waiting room, etc. Today I was driving though, and noted towards the end of my trip that this was the first time in weeks the phone hadn't once lost it's data connection for the entire drive. After reflecting for a moment on what, if anything, was different about this excursion, the only thing I could come up with is that I hadn't used Flipboard since I left the house. Even though my initial reaction was to seriously doubt a respectable app like that could cause such an issue, I had nothing else to go on. So, for the hell of it, I picked up my phone and fired up Flipboard...
Within 5-10 seconds of clicking it...BAM...gray 4g icon and no data would load. Needless to say, I uninstalled Flip**** right away...then reinstalled so I could comment on it in the market, then uninstalled again, and haven't dropped data at all in the last several hours. I also took note that a guy with a Droid Razr Maxx left a comment complaining that Flipboard was actually causing random reboots for him.
I don't know if any of you have Flip**** installed, or why you're having similar data issues, but if any of you do happen to have it installed, try uninstalling from the phone...not the market. Then, turn your phone off, pull out the SD card and SIM for a moment or so, put them back in, power up the device, and see if that might possibly help alleviate the constant data dropping. If I find I start dropping data again, without Flipboard installed, I'll update this post. Good luck.

No Flipboard on my phone. I'm glad you found an answer to your problem though.
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I've been having problems since Verizon turned on 4G LTE in my area. Once a day I have to remove my SIM card. If I don't, the 4G is very unreliable. Could it be a bad SIM card? Or maybe the fact that they just activated it here and they're working out the bugs? Anyone have any ideas?
I also forgot to mention, I've got a Motorola XOOM 4G LTE And have had not one single connection problem since 4G went live in my area.
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I just have the data connection issue when ever i flip on wifi then disable it .. a reboot is required for data to work again regardless if i force 3g or if i am trying to use lte.. guessing it is a software bug.. i never seem to have a connection issue if wifi wasnt used prior.
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podspi said:
My only complaint are the window transitions, blech. Yea, you can disable them, but then all the eye candy goes away completely! Ah Moto, why no middle ground?
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I know this thread and comment are old, but if you use Spare Parts, you can change the Window Transition speed to Fast and then your phone seems much faster/smoother. Don't mess with Window Animation speed if you want to keep th TV-like power off blip.

My Droid 4 Connection Issues
taintphuck said:
I've been having the data dropping issue as well for the past few weeks. Running stock GB, rooted with safe strap, but have yet to flash a custom ROM. I thought the issue might be because I'm on a legacy Alltel plan with PRL 14012, which is way outdated...
Well, today I believe I finally found the source of what was causing the issue for me personally, from an unexpected source...Flipboard.
I've found myself glancing at it a bunch at red lights when I'm driving, or sitting in a waiting room, etc. Today I was driving though, and noted towards the end of my trip that this was the first time in weeks the phone hadn't once lost it's data connection for the entire drive. After reflecting for a moment on what, if anything, was different about this excursion, the only thing I could come up with is that I hadn't used Flipboard since I left the house. Even though my initial reaction was to seriously doubt a respectable app like that could cause such an issue, I had nothing else to go on. So, for the hell of it, I picked up my phone and fired up Flipboard...
Within 5-10 seconds of clicking it...BAM...gray 4g icon and no data would load. Needless to say, I uninstalled Flip**** right away...then reinstalled so I could comment on it in the market, then uninstalled again, and haven't dropped data at all in the last several hours. I also took note that a guy with a Droid Razr Maxx left a comment complaining that Flipboard was actually causing random reboots for him.
I don't know if any of you have Flip**** installed, or why you're having similar data issues, but if any of you do happen to have it installed, try uninstalling from the phone...not the market. Then, turn your phone off, pull out the SD card and SIM for a moment or so, put them back in, power up the device, and see if that might possibly help alleviate the constant data dropping. If I find I start dropping data again, without Flipboard installed, I'll update this post. Good luck.
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I don't have Flipboard, however I noticed connection issues within 12 hours of getting my phone. At the time it was stock GB. I took it back to the store, he called tech support. Between the 2 of them, my phone was hard reset, the SD and SIM cards were pulled and the phone rebooted, they fiddled with settings, tech support tried to turn on data from their end, nothing worked. I noticed I lost my data connection when the Smart Action for battery saver clicked on. It was like it got stuck and the phone couldn't turn on data anymore. I did a factory reboot, and got data back. I turned on that first smart action, lost data connection again, it wouldn't turn back on. So I did another factory reboot, disabled that "Smart" Action, and been ok since then. I do still loose my connection, but I am able to get it back if I turn wifi on. Not sure why, but it works most of the time. Some days I still have data if I turn my wifi off, other days i have to leave wifi on if I want to use my 4g. I have my phone rooted, running GB and loving Spirit FM..(Having FM radio was the only reason why I rooted my phone..can't live without my FM!!) Is there anything I can do to get my data connection to stay on?
BTW an OTA update has occured for GB, but it doesn't seem to have fixed the problem.

Seriously?! anyone get the Nexus 7 to work without wifi?

Short Story: Is there anyway to make the nexus start working without WiFi?
Long Story: Sherman, set the Way-Back Machine for about a month ago. So there I was the day of the Google I/O conference refreshing the google play store over and over again until the moment I could order my Nexus 7. Needless to say I ordered it the minute I could. Today I recieved my Nexus 7. It took a while to get here. I picked it up from the mailroom three hours ago. I let it charge and turned it on. First screen asks for my country. Second screen says searching for WiFi. And there I sit because , I don't have WiFi. Is there a workaround for this? Or do I have a $250 paperweight, until I get home later this year?
I can't be the only one with this problem.
Resources available to me:
1) I have a laptop that is connected to very slow internet (ethernet, not wireless). It has USB ports, but I don't think theres a way to share internet through USB. I can not attach a wifi router to this network.
2) I have WiFi where I sleep, but I need to open a browser and put in a username and password to log in. I don't think that will work because I can't get to the web browser part of this.
My last resort is to mail it back home to have family activate it and then mail it back to me. Kind of absurd. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Josh
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ATTN TROLLS: before replying and looking stupid, make sure to read the whole thread. The problem has been resolved. I even explained how I resolved it for other people with potentially the same problem. I have also clearly explained why I bought the Nexus 7. A tablet is a tablet. Without WiFi it still lets me read books, play games, do Sudoku puzzles, and watch episodes that I bring back on a USB thumb drive. I used it to replace my Nook Color running CM7. I have enough WiFi back in my room to browse the web and check my email.
Thanks to everyone that offered constructive help.
To the trolls, I hope you get pushed down a slide of razors into a pool of acid.

Does the laptop ha e wifi, if so you can share the wired internet connection wirelessly via connnectify
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Go to Starbucks or McDonalds, Lol

You wouldn't happen to have a neighbor with an open network you could leach off of do you?

That seems like a serious oversight if this is the case.

If you have Windows 7: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/9739/turn-your-windows-7-laptop-into-a-wifi-hotspot-with-connectify/

gijosh28 said:
Anyone have any suggestions?
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Find and use some nearby wi-fi ?

hullbay said:
Go to Starbucks or McDonalds, Lol
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This, seems easy enough. Go get a coffee

Well, if you are rooted (should be able to root without setting up) then you can just kill the 'setup', process through adb on your pc. You could also try to flash a ROM without that set up process. Like CM
I thought this when I was setting up my tablet and wondered when would happen if someone didn't have wi fi available immediately.
Sent from my Nexus 7

Racer Of All said:
Well, if you are rooted (should be able to root without setting up) then you can just kill the 'setup', process through adb on your pc. You could also try to flash a ROM without that set up process. Like CM
I thought this when I was setting up my tablet and wondered when would happen if someone didn't have wi fi available immediately.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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Or this. But hey, go grab a coffee, then root.

I had wifi and it still couldn't detect it when i turned it on! I panicked and i sat there at the first screen bevause there was no option to manually enter wifi settings. My network has secure and ssid off, but couldn't even see neighbours (ssid on).
But I tethered insecure net from phone to get past first screen. Should be able to borrow a friend's internet this way, it doesn't download much.
I have no idea how you plan to use the n7 w/o wifi, at least during setup, it is in terms of service...
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Not sure if this still works, but you used to be able to bypass activation by touching all four corners of the device. Top left, top right, bottom right, and bottom left.

I tried the four corners thing. It didn't work. Unfortunately there are no McDonalds or Starbucks near me. I only have these two networks to work with. I bough it to replace my Nook (CM7), which I use to watch episodes of TV shows. I bring the mSD card to work, and put episodes on it, then bring it back to the room and watch them till I fall asleep. With the Nexus I was intent on copying my episodes over through the ethernet cable by day, and taking it back to the room to watch them at night. I guess I'll have to keep watching my shows on my Nook. Sucks. New toy is useless.

xopher.hunter said:
Does the laptop ha e wifi, if so you can share the wired internet connection wirelessly via connnectify
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This would work. Unfortunately I can't connect anything wireless to this network. I might try to sneak this solution. This is the second to last resort. Thanks for the advice/idea!
Racer Of All said:
Well, if you are rooted (should be able to root without setting up) then you can just kill the 'setup', process through adb on your pc. You could also try to flash a ROM without that set up process. Like CM
I thought this when I was setting up my tablet and wondered when would happen if someone didn't have wi fi available immediately.
Sent from my Nexus 7
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I haven't seen any instructions on how to root the device prior to initializing it. Is it possible?
Thanks,
Josh

gijosh28 said:
I tried the four corners thing. It didn't work. Unfortunately there are no McDonalds or Starbucks near me. I only have these two networks to work with. I bough it to replace my Nook (CM7), which I use to watch episodes of TV shows. I bring the mSD card to work, and put episodes on it, then bring it back to the room and watch them till I fall asleep. With the Nexus I was intent on copying my episodes over through the ethernet cable by day, and taking it back to the room to watch them at night. I guess I'll have to keep watching my shows on my Nook. Sucks. New toy is useless.
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I take it u can't skip the sign in like on phones, if u have no way of getting on a wifi network, you can possibly try to kill the setup process via adb...its not really a google oversight, its 2012 WiFi networks are rather easy to find.

I guess I'm just lucky enough to be where they aren't easy to find.

I just tether from my phone
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I have no cell phone coverage here. Although I might be able to use my cell phone to connect to the wireless back at the room, use the cell phone web browser to log on, then tether it to my Nexus. That might work. I'll try that tonight.

gijosh28 said:
Short Story: Is there anyway to make the nexus start working without WiFi?
Long Story: Sherman, set the Way-Back Machine for about a month ago. So there I was the day of the Google I/O conference refreshing the google play store over and over again until the moment I could order my Nexus 7. Needless to say I ordered it the minute I could. Today I recieved my Nexus 7. It took a while to get here. I picked it up from the mailroom three hours ago. I let it charge and turned it on. First screen asks for my country. Second screen says searching for WiFi. And there I sit because , I don't have WiFi. Is there a workaround for this? Or do I have a $250 paperweight, until I get home later this year?
I can't be the only one with this problem.
Resources available to me:
1) I have a laptop that is connected to very slow internet (ethernet, not wireless). It has USB ports, but I don't think theres a way to share internet through USB. I can not attach a wifi router to this network.
2) I have WiFi where I sleep, but I need to open a browser and put in a username and password to log in. I don't think that will work because I can't get to the web browser part of this.
My last resort is to mail it back home to have family activate it and then mail it back to me. Kind of absurd. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Josh
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use a WIFI dongle to attach to your laptop. make it a hotspot using "connectify" software and connect your nexus to it. your laptop must have internet access.

setup aside, how did you plan on managing files etc on the n7 long term without wifi?
Seems there are other products more suited to your needs if you aren't going to use any online or network features.
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Wi-Fi issues on BLU R1 HD (even after multiple resets)

Hi guys, help a n00b out.
This is my first Android phone, but I'm technically proficient, generally (was a sysadmin in an alternate timeline).
Non, rooted, Amazon variant (with ads), 2GB/16GB version of the phone.
Wifi will stop working several times a day depending upon consumption (more frequently if I'm spending lots of time on YouTube, otherwise just once a day). Wifi is still connected, still reporting connection and activity on the status bar, but nothing's coming in or going out, not even a basic google search.
What I've tried that does not fix the issue:
Turning WiFi off and then on
Forgetting the Wifi profile and reconnecting
Rebooting the router
Updating the routers' firmware (Apple Airport, bleh)
Moving to a different wifi AP (in another building)
Setting up a static IP address and using Google's 8.8.8.8 DNS sever
Factory reset from the settings app (under "Backup and Reset")
Hard reset/wipe from the bootloader (holding down power and volume up while the phone is shut off, going into recovery mode, etc.)
The only thing that works is to reboot, and that is only worth a few hundred megs of transfer or so, and then Wifi is locked up again.
I've had the wifi die within an hour of a reboot.
I'm a Realtor, and use my phone for work, so obviously this is a pain.
The problem is fairly recent, only occurring in the past month or so. I wonder if the v.9 OTA update did it. I didn't play extremely close attention to the updates.
Any ideas, guys? I've taken every troubleshooting step I can think to take.
Much regards,
Ram

Wanted to add that I've tried Wifi-fix apps like FXR (can't find it on the play store anymore).
Wifi Fixer seems to crash as soon as I turn on Wifi. Strange.
I don't even get the "Connected. No Internet" error for long. It *thinks* that Wifi is working fine, but it doesn't work at all.
Also, I'm not able to ping local computers or computers on the internet (in case that helps with troubleshooting).
Thanks!

Further clarification: The wifi problem showed up within a couple hours of hard-resetting the phone. There was no lag.
Also, I was wrong in the previous clarification. When I pinged 8.8.8.8, 1 out of 3 pings came back ok. That is reallllly weird! None of the pings came back when pinging a local computer, but that might be a firewall issue. When I ping the router itself (192.168.1.1), I get 1 out of three come back.
When I do 10 pings to the router, I get erratic results. Sometimes I get none back, sometimes 7.
I have no problems pinging 8.8.8.8 over LTE.
One thing I notice is that it has a tendency to say "SAVED," and stay disconnected. I have to remind it to actually connect to the AP several times, and then it does (but of course it doesn't actually work).

FYI, turning off bluetooth and turning it on again SEEMS to fix the issue.
Will keep trying to see if this is a reliable fix.
Anyone else seen this?

rlaska said:
FYI, turning off bluetooth and turning it on again SEEMS to fix the issue.
Will keep trying to see if this is a reliable fix.
Anyone else seen this?
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have not seen this problem on any of my R1 but the typical "fix" for failing connections is to toggle airplane mode, on and off

mrmazak said:
have not seen this problem on any of my R1 but the typical "fix" for failing connections is to toggle airplane mode, on and off
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Thanks! I don't know if that does anything more than just turning WiFi off and on (which I've tried), but I discovered today that toggling bluetooth seems to fix it, so I'm guessing that toggling Airplane mode would fix it as well.
Thanks for the info! I'm sure I've seen that suggestion before, don't know why I haven't tried it. Probably didn't realize that toggling Airplane does more than just cycling the Wi-Fi itself.
Thanky!!

rlaska said:
Thanks! I don't know if that does anything more than just turning WiFi off and on (which I've tried), but I discovered today that toggling bluetooth seems to fix it, so I'm guessing that toggling Airplane mode would fix it as well.
Thanks for the info! I'm sure I've seen that suggestion before, don't know why I haven't tried it. Probably didn't realize that toggling Airplane does more than just cycling the Wi-Fi itself.
Thanky!!
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Yes toggling airplane mode forces a full reset of all the radio stacks. Just toggling wifi by itself does not reset the driver only the interface

mrmazak said:
Yes toggling airplane mode forces a full reset of all the radio stacks. Just toggling wifi by itself does not reset the driver only the interface
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Good to know! I could have saved myself 2 or 3 hard resets :silly:

Glad you shared this. I'm also having WiFi problems and it's driving me nuts. I couldn't figure out if it was my ISP, my router or the phone itself. The symptoms are similar to those that you describe.
Toggling airplane mode seems to fix it, but just for a few minutes.
I'm also on V9 but it was happening on V8.7 too.
I'll try to get a log to share.

t4n017 said:
Glad you shared this. I'm also having WiFi problems and it's driving me nuts. I couldn't figure out if it was my ISP, my router or the phone itself. The symptoms are similar to those that you describe.
Toggling airplane mode seems to fix it, but just for a few minutes.
I'm also on V9 but it was happening on V8.7 too.
I'll try to get a log to share.
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There may be a deeper issue. Blu had initially pulled there 8.5 update because of many connection issues after the ota.
They supposedly fixed it with 8.6
Maybe similar issue as you are having.
??

t4n017 said:
Glad you shared this. I'm also having WiFi problems and it's driving me nuts. I couldn't figure out if it was my ISP, my router or the phone itself. The symptoms are similar to those that you describe.
Toggling airplane mode seems to fix it, but just for a few minutes.
I'm also on V9 but it was happening on V8.7 too.
I'll try to get a log to share.
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Man, I'm sorry the airplane mode doesn't fix your phone for more than a few minutes. I only have to reset airplane mode every few days now.
The other big thing I did was do a hard reset of the phone from the bootloader, and set it up all over again.
If airplane mode isn't helping, a hard reset might help (although I understand it's realllly painful to do.)
If it helps, I use an IFTTT recipe to back up my SMS to spreadsheets on google drive -- but this only works in real time, not as a retroactive backup.
Here's the instructions for doing the hard reset
Best of luck!!

rlaska said:
Man, I'm sorry the airplane mode doesn't fix your phone for more than a few minutes. I only have to reset airplane mode every few days now.
The other big thing I did was do a hard reset of the phone from the bootloader, and set it up all over again.
If airplane mode isn't helping, a hard reset might help (although I understand it's realllly painful to do.)
If it helps, I use an IFTTT recipe to back up my SMS to spreadsheets on google drive -- but this only works in real time, not as a retroactive backup.
Here's the instructions for doing the hard reset
Best of luck!!
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I've got the same issues with my R1 HD. I have airplane mode turned on, but I haven't tried toggling it on and off. I don't want to have to resort to the hard reset, but I'm willing to try it if nothing else.

funkychinaman said:
I've got the same issues with my R1 HD. I have airplane mode turned on, but I haven't tried toggling it on and off. I don't want to have to resort to the hard reset, but I'm willing to try it if nothing else.
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What I've learned from previous replies is that toggling airplane mode on and off does a more complete reset of the networking software than just turning wifi on and off.
Do any of you guys have issues with Google Assistant not wanting to text anyone? It's driving me nuts!

rlaska said:
Hi guys, help a n00b out.
This is my first Android phone, but I'm technically proficient, generally (was a sysadmin in an alternate timeline).
Non, rooted, Amazon variant (with ads), 2GB/16GB version of the phone.
Wifi will stop working several times a day depending upon consumption (more frequently if I'm spending lots of time on YouTube, otherwise just once a day). Wifi is still connected, still reporting connection and activity on the status bar, but nothing's coming in or going out, not even a basic google search.
What I've tried that does not fix the issue:
Turning WiFi off and then on
Forgetting the Wifi profile and reconnecting
Rebooting the router
Updating the routers' firmware (Apple Airport, bleh)
Moving to a different wifi AP (in another building)
Setting up a static IP address and using Google's 8.8.8.8 DNS sever
Factory reset from the settings app (under "Backup and Reset")
Hard reset/wipe from the bootloader (holding down power and volume up while the phone is shut off, going into recovery mode, etc.)
The only thing that works is to reboot, and that is only worth a few hundred megs of transfer or so, and then Wifi is locked up again.
I've had the wifi die within an hour of a reboot.
I'm a Realtor, and use my phone for work, so obviously this is a pain.
The problem is fairly recent, only occurring in the past month or so. I wonder if the v.9 OTA update did it. I didn't play extremely close attention to the updates.
Any ideas, guys? I've taken every troubleshooting step I can think to take.
Much regards,
Ram
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It seems that you tried almost everything.
If you root the phone with Magisk you could install a wide range of apps that would improve WIfi. Unfortunately, I am not sure if Magisk will work on a Blu phone.
For now maybe try using, the DNS Changer app from Google play. It does not require root and will allow you to lock into 8.8.8.8 within your phone.
Next, in your router there should be an option to scan the 2.5 ghz channel range and automatically select one that is not being used by your neighbors. Finally, its quite possible that the update caused the issue. It seems that Blu has had quite a few issues with their recent system updates. Whenever, you can afford it. Get rid of the phone. You can buy the Le Eco Pro 3 on Amazon for $178...it has a Snapdragon 821 processor!
By the way, I own two Blu phones: both are now in a box. I replaced both phones with Le Eco pro 3. Best phone I have ever owned.

tsongming said:
It seems that you tried almost everything.
If you root the phone with Magisk you could install a wide range of apps that would improve WIfi. Unfortunately, I am not sure if Magisk will work on a Blu phone.
For now maybe try using, the DNS Changer app from Google play. It does not require root and will allow you to lock into 8.8.8.8 within your phone.
Next, in your router there should be an option to scan the 2.5 ghz channel range and automatically select one that is not being used by your neighbors. Finally, its quite possible that the update caused the issue. It seems that Blu has had quite a few issues with their recent system updates. Whenever, you can afford it. Get rid of the phone. You can buy the Le Eco Pro 3 on Amazon for $178...it has a Snapdragon 821 processor!
By the way, I own two Blu phones: both are now in a box. I replaced both phones with Le Eco pro 3. Best phone I have ever owned.
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Unfortunately, the DNS change doesn't help the problem I had. I tried to manually set the DNS to 8.8.8.8, but it still wouldn't connect to anything. I just think BLU's firmware isn't all that great, and I don't know if they have any actual form of service (other than the extended warranty I was silly enough to purchase). Thank goodness for xda, because I now have a very effective workaround that I only have to use once a day or so (and that doesn't take a long time to cycle through).
The reason I didn't try harder to troubleshoot the wifi network itself is that this phone does the same thing at home, at work, and at Starbucks, and taking it from one place to another doesn't reset the issue. Wifi is just BROKE. Also, none of our other devices (two laptops, two desktops, three iphones, and three iPads) have any such problems.
LeEco sounds like an interesting budget phone. I'm a little wary of budget phones after my BLU, though, since the BLU had relatively glowing reviews initially. I might try saving up for an LG or something. The reviews on the BLU were pretty high, but the performance and stability didn't last very long. Some apps are painfully slow to use, although the system in general is tolerable. I'll keep it for a year (until June) and then look at other options
Are there any good sites to find out about quality budget phones? The budget phones that carriers push are really crappy, Amazon seems rather haphazard, and most of the big Android websites mostly push the very expensive stuff.
I think it's absolutely bananas to pay $700 every two years, but what do I know? :laugh:
Thanks for the tips. I appreciate everyone's helpfulness. This forum is the best!

rlaska said:
Unfortunately, the DNS change doesn't help the problem I had. I tried to manually set the DNS to 8.8.8.8, but it still wouldn't connect to anything. I just think BLU's firmware isn't all that great, and I don't know if they have any actual form of service (other than the extended warranty I was silly enough to purchase). Thank goodness for xda, because I now have a very effective workaround that I only have to use once a day or so (and that doesn't take a long time to cycle through).
The reason I didn't try harder to troubleshoot the wifi network itself is that this phone does the same thing at home, at work, and at Starbucks, and taking it from one place to another doesn't reset the issue. Wifi is just BROKE. Also, none of our other devices (two laptops, two desktops, three iphones, and three iPads) have any such problems.
LeEco sounds like an interesting budget phone. I'm a little wary of budget phones after my BLU, though, since the BLU had relatively glowing reviews initially. I might try saving up for an LG or something. The reviews on the BLU were pretty high, but the performance and stability didn't last very long. Some apps are painfully slow to use, although the system in general is tolerable. I'll keep it for a year (until June) and then look at other options
Are there any good sites to find out about quality budget phones? The budget phones that carriers push are really crappy, Amazon seems rather haphazard, and most of the big Android websites mostly push the very expensive stuff.
I think it's absolutely bananas to pay $700 every two years, but what do I know? :laugh:
Thanks for the tips. I appreciate everyone's helpfulness. This forum is the best!
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Le Eco isn't a Budget phone. It is a top tier phone that has few peers among 2016 phones.
If you look at the specs of the Le Eco Pro 3 Us version ( X727) vs a One Plus 3 T, or One Plus 5 ( $450-$600) range phones or compare it to a Samsung S7 or S8 and you will see that the specs are very similar.
The reason, the Le Eco Pro 3 phone is cheap ( $179) is because they more or less went out of business in the US, due to foolish expansion spending. But, I can not recommend these phones enough. They will be supported by members of XDA for the next few years. Even the $139 Le Eco S3 has a Snap dragon 625 processor! If you do end up buying one, PM me and I will be happy help you with getting it configured.
Obviously, I love these phones, I enjoy the customization options and speed Antutu: https://www.kimovil.com/en/leeco-le-pro-3/antutu
Plus, you can pretty much put any version of Android on these phones, including the new Pixel Camera!
I realize this may not be your thing. if you want something safe and inexpensive maybe go for a Motorola G5, or a Honor 6. Both are outstanding phones supported by solid companies.
Back to Blu, they do indeed have a tech support number: US: 1-877-602-8762.
If your phone is under warranty, from what I have read they will repair it. Although it could take up to a week. If you by chance bought the phone on Amazon. They have a A to Z guarantee and will give you a refund for up to 90 days after purchase. Plus, you could have your refund in a couple of days.
In the end, I agree that your issue is related to the firmware.
It really does sound like you tried everything to resolve the issue. But, did you try resetting the phone? If not, that may work.
My daughter has a Blu R1 HD that I just replaced with a Le Eco S3. ( For her major upgrade) But, the Blu R1 HD is actually a decent phone. It just sounds like their update caused a corruption issue. In my experience these issues are common in phones that have a locked boot-loader. So It is likely a permissions conflict that you probably will not be able to solve without Blu's help or maybe just resetting the phone.

@rlaska Same problem here, on various ROMs.
By any chance, do you have the amazon prime music app installed? If yes could you try uninstalling it and reboot. Oddly enough for me it seemed to restore a normal wifi that after removing it from my phone. So far I'm thinking it's not really related, but well don't really hurt to test.

emc2cube said:
@rlaska Same problem here, on various ROMs.
By any chance, do you have the amazon prime music app installed? If yes could you try uninstalling it and reboot. Oddly enough for me it seemed to restore a normal wifi that after removing it from my phone. So far I'm thinking it's not really related, but well don't really hurt to test.
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That's wild! As far as I know, you can't uninstall it, but you can disable it. I've disabled it, so we'll see if that helps.
Sounds like a long shot, but you never know!

emc2cube said:
@rlaska Same problem here, on various ROMs.
By any chance, do you have the amazon prime music app installed? If yes could you try uninstalling it and reboot. Oddly enough for me it seemed to restore a normal wifi that after removing it from my phone. So far I'm thinking it's not really related, but well don't really hurt to test.
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Mines been disabled and my phone has WiFi issues every so often so it can't be related to that app.

It would have surprised me if it was that too, the app have been updated a few times already an problem were still there.
An other possible explanation is that this app was responsible for most of my WiFi data use, so maybe it's working for me just because now I basically don't use as much wifi as I used with the app installed.