rom developping? - Galaxy Tab S2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello everybody i just post this to ask this simple question: why are there so few roms for this tablet?
Developers/users are not interested by this device or is it just a matter of time. Forums are not really active , this is not a reproach but i try to understand the situation. Maybe someone developing could explain that to me.
Coming from a nexus 7 2013 this is really confusing

Well ROMs are only made if the devs have the device. If ROMs aren't made, the devs don't have the device! Simple.
What model do you have?

I have t710 model. I know it's harder to developp a rom without the device but some of us are ready for testing if necessary!!! It seems people are not really concerned by the rom they download, they download it but there's no feedback, imo. I guess i'm too used with nexus forums which are more popular and where devs and users are fast for answering and finding a solution. Again i don't want to hurt developers (hard to really express what i want as english is not my native language) i'm just sad that there's not much craze for this device which could be awesome stable cm rom for exemple

Maybe it's time for me to learn coding and developing

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[Q] Question

Hi to all...why there are so many things to GT-S5830 and nothing for GT-S5839i? Is it for being a new model? Or simply there is no interest on it? It's a bit annoying see so many things for ace but not for my ace...
Very few devs have the i model to start cooking stuff.
If no one's done it for you its never too late to start doing it yourself.
There's plenty of tutorials, guides and information online to get you started. This is better than expecting someone else to Cook something and then complain about no support for your phone, android version or whatever.
there's not much difference between the two. why ask for a specific dev for your phone if you can use anything that was built for the ace?
I see what you saying...the question is...where to start and what to search?

[Q] Best ROM for daily usage for my wife?

Hey folks,
the title says it all - I'm looking for the best ROM for daily usage for my wife :cyclops:
Right now she owns a HTC Sensation with CM 10.2 from Albinoman (20131028), but it's always a bit laggy and buggy.
So I need a ROM which is really smooth and - the most important thing - has a really good working camera!
Otherwise I know I will run into really big problems :laugh:
It mustn't be the newest ROM, but the most stable and smoothest - nothing less and nothing more
Any recommendations from you ROM-freaks?
Best regards and thanks in advance for your help
cool400
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935514
Okay - thanks for...nothing?!
I agree to AndreiLux' answer to the OP of the linked thread.
Why it should not be allowed to ask people about their experiences with one or another ROM
I clearly stated what I'm looking for, and stability and a working camera are truly hard-facts for which I can get recommendations.
Not to bother you...but this really doesn't help anybody.
Best regards
cool400
cool400 said:
Okay - thanks for...nothing?!
I agree to AndreiLux' answer to the OP of the linked thread.
Why it should not be allowed to ask people about their experiences with one or another ROM
I clearly stated what I'm looking for, and stability and a working camera are truly hard-facts for which I can get recommendations.
Not to bother you...but this really doesn't help anybody.
Best regards
cool400
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I can advice you to go for The Galaxy Project v11.anything for the Galaxy S3 LTE. (I'm not sure which is the latest version of v11). This is a nice rom based on stock android 4.1.2, very stable and everything works. Do not go to 4.3 yet if you want stability and everything working smoothly.
The reason "Best Rom" threads are not allowed, is because it's "subjective". It can also lead to arguments between devoted fans. Understand, not everybody at XDA is civil. Mostly, but some folks take "fan devotion" to another level and cause serious problems. I won't mention any "Team" roms that frequently troll each other. For this point, "Best Rom" threads get closed unless there is a formal official thread monitored by the moderation team.
My advice is to read the popular threads starting from the last few pages. This gives you an idea of any recent bugs in the recent releases.
Then try a couple.
Although the recent CM. Paranoid Android, AOKP and PacMan roms are nice, they are not for everybody as they can get complicated with options. I myself prefer a more stock based, odex'd ROM. With Xposed mods, custom kernel and some necessary apps.
With that said, this thread will be closed now.
Cheers
MD

Note Edge vs. Note 4 ROMS/development

So I've had the Edge for a while now and just got the lollipop update. Don't get me wrong I LOVE my device, but I am a root/flash freak and I really enjoy all the hard work that is given by the developers to help our devices be that much more cutting edge. I told myself I wouldn't root my device at least until after the lollipop update, then I would look into customizing my device. However the issue is there is LITTLE TO NO development for the edge.. Coming from a long history of galaxy devices this is something I'm not used to experiencing.. I have been waiting patiently for it to pick up but nothing seems to be moving..
I've said all that to say/ask this.. Is there much difference in the development for the note 4 vs the note edge, are there any custom ROMs that are compatible with both devices? If so what are they? Any themes that are compatible with both devices? Any developers willing to offer a little development here and there? Any way I can help with that? I mean I know this is asking alot. And I'm not trying to come off as a douche, don't need the "smart alek" responses as I am being sincere here.... Sorry I hope I'm not breaking any OP rules either.. HEELLLPPPP... Lol, naw but frfr..?????
iCUE220 said:
So I've had the Edge for a while now and just got the lollipop update. Don't get me wrong I LOVE my device, but I am a root/flash freak and I really enjoy all the hard work that is given by the developers to help our devices be that much more cutting edge. I told myself I wouldn't root my device at least until after the lollipop update, then I would look into customizing my device. However the issue is there is LITTLE TO NO development for the edge.. Coming from a long history of galaxy devices this is something I'm not used to experiencing.. I have been waiting patiently for it to pick up but nothing seems to be moving..
I've said all that to say/ask this.. Is there much difference in the development for the note 4 vs the note edge, are there any custom ROMs that are compatible with both devices? If so what are they? Any themes that are compatible with both devices? Any developers willing to offer a little development here and there? Any way I can help with that? I mean I know this is asking alot. And I'm not trying to come off as a douche, don't need the "smart alek" responses as I am being sincere here.... Sorry I hope I'm not breaking any OP rules either.. HEELLLPPPP... Lol, naw but frfr..?????
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There is a difference in the sense that you will always have SOMETHING to flash. We have AOSP builds where developers are updating every other day. We have a stock base rom by Tekk and he literally update about twice a week. Now that lollipop is here, we are waiting on developers to update or they are in the process of perfecting their roms to where Kitkat was. Development is up and running...as far as coming out with new features and what not, not so much. I will suggest you look around...be our guest, a sip here and a spoon full there while examining the change-logs and comments
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There is a difference in the sense that you will always have SOMETHING to flash. We have AOSP builds where developers are updating every other day. We have a stock base rom by Tekk and he literally update about twice a week. Now that lollipop is here, we are waiting on developers to update or they are in the process of perfecting their roms to where Kitkat was. Development is up and running...as far as coming out with new features and what not, not so much. I will suggest you look around...be our guest, a sip here and a spoon full there while examining the change-logs and comments
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Awesome. But I think in all my rambling I didn't quite convey the message or ask what I intended to..
Are there any GN4 ROMS that are compatible with GNE?
iCUE220 said:
Awesome. But I think in all my rambling I didn't quite convey the message or ask what I intended to..
Are there any GN4 ROMS that are compatible with GNE?
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nope
Lol. Smh. Didnt think so. And here I was thinking that development for GNE would flourish.. ?

Finally compiled CM13 from source code. Now what?

Hi boys and gals and older fellows:
So, I have been following this forums for some weeks. I own a Redmi 2 Pro here in Mexico (2014819, 16 GB ROM and 2 GB RAM) and I wanted to test a fair amount of ROMS, I never had had a cellphone with so many custom ROMS available and I am very enthusiastic about it, so, I first went to CM13, then AICP, AOKP, DU, RR and even MIUI 8 Betas, until I found this ROM I still want to build called Paranoid Android. But I never compiled a ROM from source (I have been using Linux for many years, but never compiled an entire OS) and while I was trying to build AOSPA (or Paranoid Android) I realized it was too hard for my skills.
You see, I am only a user not a developer, and I see a lot of guys here developing and mantaining at the very same time, using their free time, processors, internet connection and patience for all of us, the users. So, I finally managed to compile CM13 from source and it runs pretty well (everything works) and it feels really great, like an achievement, but then I thought "Now what? Is it possible I can help other users? How can I learn more?". I know this is not a great achievement fro a developer, I did not create a device tree or developed a custom ROM or part of it or write a driver, I know too I can't really help any much more than I have helped to other users (as much or few as it can be). So, what do you think? I wanna learn more, I want to custom CM13 to my own needs as a learning exercise (add, remove, tweak governors; that sort of things).
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TL;DR: I want to help people with a lot of work in his/her hands helping Redmi 2 community. I am a regular GNU/Linux user and I can compile CM13 from source. Is there any way I can help you to help others while I learn something more? Suggestions on what to do from now on are also welcome, keeping in mind I am not a developer and I do not want to be one.
Wrong place bro
You can get help from @s.sawrav and @pirej,these are sort of devs who could help you.
Btw if you can,please try to compile also nougat if you can.
And use Google for things you want to learn like oc,governors and stuff there are some pretty good threads here on XDA on how to build kernels and add features to it like this here http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/ultimate-guide-compile-android-kernel-t2871276 .
Wish you best luck?
Great, one more Dev for our little beast. Try Paranoid next ...
CENTSOARER said:
Hi boys and gals and older fellows:
So, I have been following this forums for some weeks. I own a Redmi 2 Pro here in Mexico (2014819, 16 GB ROM and 2 GB RAM) and I wanted to test a fair amount of ROMS, I never had had a cellphone with so many custom ROMS available and I am very enthusiastic about it, so, I first went to CM13, then AICP, AOKP, DU, RR and even MIUI 8 Betas, until I found this ROM I still want to build called Paranoid Android. But I never compiled a ROM from source (I have been using Linux for many years, but never compiled an entire OS) and while I was trying to build AOSPA (or Paranoid Android) I realized it was too hard for my skills.
You see, I am only a user not a developer, and I see a lot of guys here developing and mantaining at the very same time, using their free time, processors, internet connection and patience for all of us, the users. So, I finally managed to compile CM13 from source and it runs pretty well (everything works) and it feels really great, like an achievement, but then I thought "Now what? Is it possible I can help other users? How can I learn more?". I know this is not a great achievement fro a developer, I did not create a device tree or developed a custom ROM or part of it or write a driver, I know too I can't really help any much more than I have helped to other users (as much or few as it can be). So, what do you think? I wanna learn more, I want to custom CM13 to my own needs as a learning exercise (add, remove, tweak governors; that sort of things).
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TL;DR: I want to help people with a lot of work in his/her hands helping Redmi 2 community. I am a regular GNU/Linux user and I can compile CM13 from source. Is there any way I can help you to help others while I learn something more? Suggestions on what to do from now on are also welcome, keeping in mind I am not a developer and I do not want to be one.
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wow great!!!! i have some request. please build cm11. i know is oldschool, but its pretty light and stable for me
Keep up mates,... You are awesome!!
Great Work Bro
CENTSOARER said:
Hi boys and gals and older fellows:
So, I have been following this forums for some weeks. I own a Redmi 2 Pro here in Mexico (2014819).....
Well down bro... Great to go.. There are developers here who may help you to grow. I wish you all developers good luck and hearty THANKS for all your works here..
Thanks & Regards,
Ashok M
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CENTSOARER said:
Hi boys and gals and older fellows:
So, I have been following this forums for some weeks. I own a Redmi 2 Pro here in Mexico (2014819, 16 GB ROM and 2 GB RAM) and I wanted to test a fair amount of ROMS, I never had had a cellphone with so many custom ROMS available and I am very enthusiastic about it, so, I first went to CM13, then AICP, AOKP, DU, RR and even MIUI 8 Betas, until I found this ROM I still want to build called Paranoid Android. But I never compiled a ROM from source (I have been using Linux for many years, but never compiled an entire OS) and while I was trying to build AOSPA (or Paranoid Android) I realized it was too hard for my skills.
You see, I am only a user not a developer, and I see a lot of guys here developing and mantaining at the very same time, using their free time, processors, internet connection and patience for all of us, the users. So, I finally managed to compile CM13 from source and it runs pretty well (everything works) and it feels really great, like an achievement, but then I thought "Now what? Is it possible I can help other users? How can I learn more?". I know this is not a great achievement fro a developer, I did not create a device tree or developed a custom ROM or part of it or write a driver, I know too I can't really help any much more than I have helped to other users (as much or few as it can be). So, what do you think? I wanna learn more, I want to custom CM13 to my own needs as a learning exercise (add, remove, tweak governors; that sort of things).
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TL;DR: I want to help people with a lot of work in his/her hands helping Redmi 2 community. I am a regular GNU/Linux user and I can compile CM13 from source. Is there any way I can help you to help others while I learn something more? Suggestions on what to do from now on are also welcome, keeping in mind I am not a developer and I do not want to be one.
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Good job :good: but this is not the right section to post this,ask a moderator to move this thread to appropriate section,also checkout the chef central in android section of XDA and then there's google,it'll help you out a lot.
Thread belongs in Discussing forum not Development, moved as requested by OP
CENTSOARER said:
Hi boys and gals and older fellows:
So, I have been following this forums for some weeks. I own a Redmi 2 Pro here in Mexico (2014819, 16 GB ROM and 2 GB RAM) and I wanted to test a fair amount of ROMS, I never had had a cellphone with so many custom ROMS available and I am very enthusiastic about it, so, I first went to CM13, then AICP, AOKP, DU, RR and even MIUI 8 Betas, until I found this ROM I still want to build called Paranoid Android. But I never compiled a ROM from source (I have been using Linux for many years, but never compiled an entire OS) and while I was trying to build AOSPA (or Paranoid Android) I realized it was too hard for my skills.
You see, I am only a user not a developer, and I see a lot of guys here developing and mantaining at the very same time, using their free time, processors, internet connection and patience for all of us, the users. So, I finally managed to compile CM13 from source and it runs pretty well (everything works) and it feels really great, like an achievement, but then I thought "Now what? Is it possible I can help other users? How can I learn more?". I know this is not a great achievement fro a developer, I did not create a device tree or developed a custom ROM or part of it or write a driver, I know too I can't really help any much more than I have helped to other users (as much or few as it can be). So, what do you think? I wanna learn more, I want to custom CM13 to my own needs as a learning exercise (add, remove, tweak governors; that sort of things).
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TL;DR: I want to help people with a lot of work in his/her hands helping Redmi 2 community. I am a regular GNU/Linux user and I can compile CM13 from source. Is there any way I can help you to help others while I learn something more? Suggestions on what to do from now on are also welcome, keeping in mind I am not a developer and I do not want to be one.
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Just start from doing the green thing
That's the best way to learn, and when/if you are happy with the modifications you made, and you think that the rom you made is different enough to be posted as a different/new/your rom, then post it.
pirej said:
Just start from doing the green thing
That's the best way to learn, and when/if you are happy with the modifications you made, and you think that the rom you made is different enough to be posted as a different/new/your rom, then post it.
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I'm not familiar with the meaning of "the green thing", I love plants, so it would be great it is a plant-related saying. Care to elaborate a little? At the moment I am learning some useful repo parameters and attempting to build Resurrection Remix which seems going just OK.
I am downloading too all the source code from CM11, I think that's gonna be doable for a newbie like me, AOSPA is just too much right now, so I gave up with that for now, even documentation is hard to get.
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I'm not familiar with the meaning of "the green thing", I love plants, so it would be great it is a plant-related saying. Care to elaborate a little? At the moment I am learning some useful repo parameters and attempting to build Resurrection Remix which seems going just OK.
I am downloading too all the source code from CM11, I think that's gonna be doable for a newbie like me, AOSPA is just too much right now, so I gave up with that for now, even documentation is hard to get.
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in my quote of your post... i used GREEN color to mark something..
pirej said:
in my quote of your post... i used GREEN color to mark something..
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Oh, I see now, thanks for the advice. This XDA Forums app can't parse color tags, so I was lost.
Hey I Was hoping you could build and Maintain a stable Cyanogen 12.1! A lot of people are still using 12.1 and kumajaya has stopped active development on that ROM. Plus the Sailfish OS community would really benefit from your support

Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 Development Direction

Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.
Same feeling here..!
Yes,.. well said,
Need support for Official TWRP. need adb sideload feature.
Please developers and maintainers, consider lineage 16.0 and omni rom, these two are major famous os distro, but not maintained for our device.
All the points are true and devs should at least try to fix the recovery. I remember once my old device had a problem with Cwm when reboot to recovery was performed the phone bootlooped so a stable recovery is a basic need for development.
Also now a days devs seem to make telegram groups and post their work there by giving reason that xda has a lot of rules, the rules are for everyone's good and if you find a rule which should be changed or modified ask the community they'll help.
On xda devs get to show their skills in front of an open audience instead of a closed group. It's like driving on a empty track vs driving in a formula league. The league has more rules than no rules empty track but one can outshine only in a league.
So try to support the xda community and also have great time. Happy developing.
navjottomer said:
Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.
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Very thoughtful! Resonate the same things brother.
Most annoying - 'Bugs - you tell me' when they are crawling around about to eat your eyes out!!
Oh and the spammers - next level entitlement for free stuff.
Note - Same as OP and with all due to respect to devs/contributors.
Can we request the developer community to focus on quality and not on quantity, found more than 20 roms, but not one which can maybe support OTA and be used as a daily driver for non flashoholic community?
Ie flash once (or dirty flash forever) and forget type of use cases, we had during resurrection remix days.
Other than that I completely agree with the opening comment of the thread.
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Due to the insane quantity we find similar bugs on different roms, that's kinda futile..
Not one is working on lineage 16 i absolutely don't understand why.
I just bought a new ZF MPM1 and roaming around the forms ,i feel like you are absolutely right!
navjottomer said:
Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.
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bro...devs are also humen, they also have life...
they are doing what u cant do..
building a rom take about 10-12 hrs ( if not using gclouds), with gclouds 3-4 hrs(if less error occurred).
they are developing when they get free time.
give them time, not a big thread to read.
And it will be great if you provide them LOGCATS, so that they can look and fix those bugs.
saurabh1234 said:
bro...devs are also humen, they also have life...
they are doing what u cant do..
building a rom take about 10-12 hrs ( if not using gclouds), with gclouds 3-4 hrs(if less error occurred).
they are developing when they get free time.
give them time, not a big thread to read.
And it will be great if you provide them LOGCATS, so that they can look and fix those bugs.
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first of all i thank my dear X00TD's ROM developers for the quick and active development.,
Bro,
we are not pesking developers to add this thing and that thing. we are requesting necessary thing that needed for stable development. every month we are getting new rom project or port rom. but nothing is different.
I am custom rom user since samsung galaxy pop( galaxy mini). previously every community build the cwm recovery (project closed) and make it stable and make it compatible with all the roms. and parallely start developing CyanogenMod (now lineage). then otherr rom developers are uses cyanogenmods sources to build their own custom rom.
firstly,
stable recovery needed. our twrp is still in beta stage.
and still in unofficial release. the following problems i faced, adb sideload, otg support not stable, aroma also not working.
secondly,
lineage os is traditional one and best aftermarket os. and the root for the many custom roms. but we are not concentrating on this os.
nxp amplifier not yet fully supported for current release of pie custom roms. i dont know what is the problem behind this issue. but none of the thread mentioned about it. may be asus not released source for it(idk).
anyone can build rom and fix bugs and release here. sorry to say, most of us don't know this android custom rom development.
and telegram groups are not worth. mostly some guys talking off topics. and i mostly ignore if unread msg is more than 500( mostly it goes above 1000 per day). so i miss what developers told and published news.
anyone,
please make a thread to how to take a logs, because most of us dont know how to take logs.
please make a index thread for list roms and kernel and about their present bugs, last release, current development status.
please make a single thread for noob guide/new user, and mention all the common problems and its solutions,
please make a thread for common bugs in roms and kernels and talk there for what we need to do solve this bugs.
if possible, update possible reason for the bugs
sorry i dont know english much. ya i know did more grammer mistakes.
i'm really sorry if i hurt anyone.
#OnlyRequesting
#NotDemanding
What else can you expect? Phone has been marketed as a mid-to lower middle tier device (price <$200/€180) i.e. it will not attract big (known / reputed) devs. phone was released in few countries so lower economic tier ppl in these countries will flock to this phone....natural to expect slovenly behaviour, rude attitudes in the community and lack of stability and direction of growth for the phone's rom development, since these ppl (students, mostly) have little knowledge of ethics, professionalism, and are likely to throw the device away for the next shiny fondleslab in the same price range within a year. Some devs are there, but the general populace they pander to is reckless, raging, mercurial youth with little respect for their work and little concern/care for whom they offend, so they can't stick to these guidelines as you speak of....after all they too hold some other work/profession as their main job and rom development is just an after-work thing....
Eat whats on table coz you aint paying ****.
I agree with what you said.
I've been longing for a stable Pie LineageOS or stable AOSP for months. But so far it's been no news.
well, it can't be helped
My actual plan was to just use the stock rom (since it was pure aosp, kinda), but since the pie version still buggy I have to use the custom version, which is pretty meh than my previous devices (xiaomi)

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