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Community release ?

Just a thought,
Whether there will be a community release of an Android ROM for vogue, which all devs come together in a team and make -maybe- one Android ROM ?
It would gain more advantage because all the devs will contribute according to their respective ideas and if this happen, it's must be a must have android for vogue.
Thank you for all the devs here that make our vogue life.

vellowax said:
Just a thought,
Whether there will be a community release of an Android ROM for vogue, which all devs come together in a team and make -maybe- one Android ROM ?
It would gain more advantage because all the devs will contribute according to their respective ideas and if this happen, it's must be a must have android for vogue.
Thank you for all the devs here that make our vogue life.
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like one big mega rom i know they all help each other in one way or another but this mega rom would be a pretty cool idea

Honestly, it's pretty much like that already,

vellowax said:
Just a thought,
Whether there will be a community release of an Android ROM for vogue, which all devs come together in a team and make -maybe- one Android ROM ?
It would gain more advantage because all the devs will contribute according to their respective ideas and if this happen, it's must be a must have android for vogue.
Thank you for all the devs here that make our vogue life.
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Lol - every release is a community release. That sounds funny but everybody is using something somebody else did, I guarantee it. You should go on a history walk and find out when things got done and who did them...
The installer, for instance (vilord) - we all see it every time we load a new build. it's been around for quite a while now and hasn't really needed any changes. We had a method before that that dzo had cooked up but it was, ahem, a bit confusing for some (somehow.) Or GPS - a ton of early work by srwalter. Fixes by dzo. A ton of revision by jnadke. Further enhancements by kallt_kaffe.
Obviously, none of those things would have happened without dzo.
This leaves out a ton of folks, of course - mssmison, for example, had his hands and say in just about everything when he was around.
All that to say, every dev uses a bunch of stuff that others have done. Every release is a community release. That's the way it's meant to be, that's the way it is, and we all benefit as a result.
*hugs*
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mssmison said:
Honestly, it's pretty much like that already,
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Right - what he said. Brevity is the soul of... something.

mrkite38 said:
Lol - every release is a community release. That sounds funny but everybody is using something somebody else did, I guarantee it. You should go on a history walk and find out when things got done and who did them...
Obviously, none of those things would have happened without dzo.
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mssmison said:
Honestly, it's pretty much like that already,
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Yes, i agree with that.
actually, vilord build is my first android rom on vogue and Dzo is the magician here -you are not really retire from this great forum right ?
So, i'm wondering if the ROM might goes into like this ;
"How about if i have Dzo build or K_K build with a ton of Incubus and Myn blazing design and tweak and many other contributions by all the devs here ie for the zImage, initrd, maybe some splash screen, apps or the battery performance (*Can we steal this from CM?) so i can say "This is my android stock ROM for vogue"
But anyway I'm not a programmer, I'm just a user.
thanks for sharing.
Hope this will not hurt anyone.

TurboROM port

Hey guys would any one with dev knowledge and skills can try to port this rom over to our device it would be awesome, I would if I could lol. The team was looking for a developer and maybe a maintainer here's the source https://github.com/TurboROM?tab=repositories thanks.

I would love to see this rom on the n6, sadly I aint no developer just a flasher, lol

omaralkha99 said:
I would love to see this rom on the n6, sadly I aint no developer just a flasher, lol
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Lmao me too

Jiggs82 said:
Hey guys would any one with dev knowledge and skills can try to port this rom over to our device it would be awesome, I would if I could lol. The team was looking for a developer and maybe a maintainer here's the source https://github.com/TurboROM?tab=repositories thanks.
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I've never heard of this ROM, but after searching, I don't think it would be possible considering the n6 was released with Android 5.0 and the ROM is based off of an earlier version of android. If I had the knowledge and time to compile and transfer all the code and compile it for 6.0.1, I would. But I'm not sure if someone is willing to put the effort into it, I'm sorry to say. But I agree, this would be a nice port.

TheGingerlyGamer said:
I've never heard of this ROM, but after searching, I don't think it would be possible considering the n6 was released with Android 5.0 and the ROM is based off of an earlier version of android. If I had the knowledge and time to compile and transfer all the code and compile it for 6.0.1, I would. But I'm not sure if someone is willing to put the effort into it, I'm sorry to say. But I agree, this would be a nice port.
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Oh damn all i know is that its an aosp layers based rom for a few devices as in G3, Bacon, Nexus 6p and some others so it should work for ours ,well maybe you or someone can ask for help in their g+ community here's the link https://plus.google.com/communities/100107549156816400681

Jiggs82 said:
Oh damn all i know is that its an aosp layers based rom for a few devices as in G3, Bacon, Nexus 6p and some others so it should work for ours ,well maybe you or someone can ask for help in their g+ community here's the link https://plus.google.com/communities/100107549156816400681
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ohhhh, ok. My apologize, I did not see the port for n6P. Well if someone took the time someone could port to n6. Like I said, if i had the time and knowledge, I would do it. I'm currently a high school student and don't have time really. But when it's summer time, I will try to learn to develop ROMs and will port it, if not done so already.

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rom developping?

Hello everybody i just post this to ask this simple question: why are there so few roms for this tablet?
Developers/users are not interested by this device or is it just a matter of time. Forums are not really active , this is not a reproach but i try to understand the situation. Maybe someone developing could explain that to me.
Coming from a nexus 7 2013 this is really confusing

Well ROMs are only made if the devs have the device. If ROMs aren't made, the devs don't have the device! Simple.
What model do you have?

I have t710 model. I know it's harder to developp a rom without the device but some of us are ready for testing if necessary!!! It seems people are not really concerned by the rom they download, they download it but there's no feedback, imo. I guess i'm too used with nexus forums which are more popular and where devs and users are fast for answering and finding a solution. Again i don't want to hurt developers (hard to really express what i want as english is not my native language) i'm just sad that there's not much craze for this device which could be awesome stable cm rom for exemple

Maybe it's time for me to learn coding and developing

would u like to see lineage os (cyanogenmod) on t713

hi
just wanted to know if anyone would be intersted to see lineage os (cyanogenmod 14) based on android 7 nougat running on t713
Notice: this is just a poll and it's not a promise from me to work on it , i just want to know how many intersted in it (if any)

Thanks for asking. This great device really needs some love.
Thanks for asking. This great device really needs some love.

sfpauly said:
Thanks for asking. This great device really needs some love.
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Yw I agree specially with the new qcom cpu things should be better for the development as now it will have a better chance for stable roms, let's see how many intersted in it..

If there is one I am ready to ditch my warranty for it

You have my vote too.
I have the t-813 variant but from my knowledge t813 would benefit from a t-713 custom rom!

varben said:
You have my vote too.
I have the t-813 variant but from my knowledge t813 would benefit from a t-713 custom rom!
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Great we have 9 votes now

Just let me know if you need an Alpha tester. Count me in....

Dekan54 said:
Just let me know if you need an Alpha tester. Count me in....
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Thanks i will keep u up with any news

messi2050 said:
hi
just wanted to know if anyone would be intersted to see lineage os (cyanogenmod 14) based on android 7 nougat running on t713
Notice: this is just a poll and it's not a promise from me to work on it , i just want to know how many intersted in it (if any)
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I'm interested and I'd be happy to help test too.

How many votes are you expecting? Just curious
You'll definitely have more supporters/users than those participating in the poll

varben said:
How many votes are you expecting? Just curious
You'll definitely have more supporters/users than those participating in the poll
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35 votes should be good enough, creating a tree for a new device requires much time/effort and too many debugging to maintain a final stable build , i worked before on projects where only few were intersted in my work and the other were downloading in the background without even hitting the thanks button, it's why I'm using a poll this time..

messi2050 said:
35 votes should be good enough, creating a tree for a new device requires much time/effort and too many debugging to maintain a final stable build , i worked before on projects where only few were intersted in my work and the other were downloading in the background without even hitting the thanks button, it's why I'm using a poll this time..
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I hope this will get the 35 votes, and hopefully more than that.
And thanks for thinking about supporting this great tablet!
Ps almost half way through!

I would be very interested in seeing lineage os for the T813. :good::good::good::good::good:

Bitte bitte! Danke!
messi2050 said:
hi
just wanted to know if anyone would be interested to see lineage os (cyanogenmod 14) based on android 7 nougat running on t713
Notice: this is just a poll and it's not a promise from me to work on it , i just want to know how many interested in it (if any)
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I am! It would be great because the T813 is hopefully the next one and I am waiting for it for months. I already lost my warranty because I did not checked it an thought it was a gts210wifi - bäm ... error ... and I had to learn that it was another (newer) tablet. I tried myself as much as I can, but I am a noob and need someone for help. My tablet is in a deep sleep and needs the lineage kiss to awake from the presumed dead.
You are right, it is not okay, the ones who make all these efforts and progress in the world of open source are not compensated enough. Only download it and never seen again. I hope at least the number of downloads and the huge amount of people you help, will be motivating you.
Ein dickes Danke aus Berlin! If you ask me, there must be a lot of guys out there, that would love to have your help too, but after so much time the tablet was released, not everyone looks, what new progress happened, like me. So please help me so I can use my tablet. (I refuse using it without lineage in the meantime.
Liebe Güße

pastorbob62 said:
I would be very interested in seeing lineage os for the T813. :good::good::good::good::good:
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Ditto to this. I think there as many or more 813 owners as there are 713 owners. Please make this work for my T813!

Sounds great. I'd be very willing to help you test.

8 more voters needed! ?

I would be interested if it supports the Snapdragon version.

I am also interested in a snapdragon version.

200% yes from me! This is a cracking lil tablet

Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 Development Direction

Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.

Same feeling here..!
Yes,.. well said,
Need support for Official TWRP. need adb sideload feature.
Please developers and maintainers, consider lineage 16.0 and omni rom, these two are major famous os distro, but not maintained for our device.

All the points are true and devs should at least try to fix the recovery. I remember once my old device had a problem with Cwm when reboot to recovery was performed the phone bootlooped so a stable recovery is a basic need for development.
Also now a days devs seem to make telegram groups and post their work there by giving reason that xda has a lot of rules, the rules are for everyone's good and if you find a rule which should be changed or modified ask the community they'll help.
On xda devs get to show their skills in front of an open audience instead of a closed group. It's like driving on a empty track vs driving in a formula league. The league has more rules than no rules empty track but one can outshine only in a league.
So try to support the xda community and also have great time. Happy developing.

navjottomer said:
Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.
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Very thoughtful! Resonate the same things brother.
Most annoying - 'Bugs - you tell me' when they are crawling around about to eat your eyes out!!
Oh and the spammers - next level entitlement for free stuff.
Note - Same as OP and with all due to respect to devs/contributors.

Can we request the developer community to focus on quality and not on quantity, found more than 20 roms, but not one which can maybe support OTA and be used as a daily driver for non flashoholic community?
Ie flash once (or dirty flash forever) and forget type of use cases, we had during resurrection remix days.
Other than that I completely agree with the opening comment of the thread.
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Due to the insane quantity we find similar bugs on different roms, that's kinda futile..

Not one is working on lineage 16 i absolutely don't understand why.

I just bought a new ZF MPM1 and roaming around the forms ,i feel like you are absolutely right!

navjottomer said:
Hi Everyone,
I wanna ask my fellow Zenfone MPM1 users, what they think about current development on our device. With so many Roms indeed there are different options and it may seem ( Few devs have done a tremendous job on this device ) that development is going in the right direction. But really it is enough?
Before sharing my views on development direction I like to thanks for all those authors for big/little mods and those who invested time in this device and generous enough to share their work to our community.
I am a really old Xda user registered in 2009 with this id and but following Xda even before ( when it was famous for windows device), so keep this in mind before becoming judgmental on my thoughts ( Take me as an old guy) I totally respect all the work shared on this platform.
In old time (When Android developers started to share their work on this forum ), we in that time had few primary goals for development like having a properly supported CWM Recovery (obsolete now), having fully working AOSP and of-course having fully working, officially supported CyanogenMod( CM7 is still my best Rom I have ever used on any device at the given time ).
Things changed CWM replaced by TWRP as recovery of choice, Cyanogen becomes dead and LineageOS born... BOOM Today.
So why I am sharing this?
Because I want to highlight a few missing things( take it as a pinch of salt ) in current development equation, not a long list so stay with me.
OFFICIAL TWRP: Current latest TWRP which is working almost, but it still has few issues like sideloading didn't work and no decryption support. A fully working custom recovery is a necessity for any Rom development. We have an UNOFFICIAL TWRP thread which is dead right now, so I don't know what are the hopes for official TWRP.
PURE AOSP: Not tested Pure AOSP love yet on this device, I know everybody wants feature filled Rom with hundreds of features, but a pure working AOSP is really important. It is helpful for beginners devs who can create their own spin of custom roms with (few or more)cherry-pick features on top of AOSP. I am not saying that gives me AOSP right now but I miss the thing that a developer is constantly working on an AOSP base to fix small and big issues in device tree and framework.
ESSENTIAL ROMS: We have so many custom roms and I love to see that, we also have an OFFICIAL LineageOS 15.1 ROM but no major rom of next cycle ( Android Pie) LineageOS 16 or OMNI ROM in development ( unofficial or official doesn't matter as long as it is in development). These are the basic roms with a distinctive set of features and everyone knows that almost every other rom use source of these roms. So stable essential roms are necessary for a bugless custom spinoff of these roms. I don't see any of this in current time, as devs started projects and abandon them quickly either to work on another rom or their schedule doesn't allow to work on that rom anymore. There are few instances that few users spam those threads for the unnecessary feature request, ETA, improper language and this may have discouraged devs to work on those roms anymore.
BUGS Handling: There is nothing perfect and everyone knows that but I really miss that major bugs are not mentioned on many ROM's intro post, they all seem copy pasted that everything works but in reality, not everything works. I understand that features availability do differ on a different device, few common features may never work, every device has bugs common in every rom and can never be fixed. I understand that there is no point to mention those things, but there are issues which are constantly discussed in threads but have no mention on the original post. I am not saying that everyone should do it right now or it is really necessary, but I am sure will certainly help for many folks.
That's it folk those are things I have in my mind. But I really want to know others take on this, What you have to say on my points. You can also throw the above points in the trash if you want and share yours.
NOTE: Above points are not demands but are few pointers for our community to think on, which I think would be helpful for everybody. You have every right to discard those points or correct me If I am wrong.
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bro...devs are also humen, they also have life...
they are doing what u cant do..
building a rom take about 10-12 hrs ( if not using gclouds), with gclouds 3-4 hrs(if less error occurred).
they are developing when they get free time.
give them time, not a big thread to read.
And it will be great if you provide them LOGCATS, so that they can look and fix those bugs.

saurabh1234 said:
bro...devs are also humen, they also have life...
they are doing what u cant do..
building a rom take about 10-12 hrs ( if not using gclouds), with gclouds 3-4 hrs(if less error occurred).
they are developing when they get free time.
give them time, not a big thread to read.
And it will be great if you provide them LOGCATS, so that they can look and fix those bugs.
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first of all i thank my dear X00TD's ROM developers for the quick and active development.,
Bro,
we are not pesking developers to add this thing and that thing. we are requesting necessary thing that needed for stable development. every month we are getting new rom project or port rom. but nothing is different.
I am custom rom user since samsung galaxy pop( galaxy mini). previously every community build the cwm recovery (project closed) and make it stable and make it compatible with all the roms. and parallely start developing CyanogenMod (now lineage). then otherr rom developers are uses cyanogenmods sources to build their own custom rom.
firstly,
stable recovery needed. our twrp is still in beta stage.
and still in unofficial release. the following problems i faced, adb sideload, otg support not stable, aroma also not working.
secondly,
lineage os is traditional one and best aftermarket os. and the root for the many custom roms. but we are not concentrating on this os.
nxp amplifier not yet fully supported for current release of pie custom roms. i dont know what is the problem behind this issue. but none of the thread mentioned about it. may be asus not released source for it(idk).
anyone can build rom and fix bugs and release here. sorry to say, most of us don't know this android custom rom development.
and telegram groups are not worth. mostly some guys talking off topics. and i mostly ignore if unread msg is more than 500( mostly it goes above 1000 per day). so i miss what developers told and published news.
anyone,
please make a thread to how to take a logs, because most of us dont know how to take logs.
please make a index thread for list roms and kernel and about their present bugs, last release, current development status.
please make a single thread for noob guide/new user, and mention all the common problems and its solutions,
please make a thread for common bugs in roms and kernels and talk there for what we need to do solve this bugs.
if possible, update possible reason for the bugs
sorry i dont know english much. ya i know did more grammer mistakes.
i'm really sorry if i hurt anyone.
#OnlyRequesting
#NotDemanding

What else can you expect? Phone has been marketed as a mid-to lower middle tier device (price <$200/€180) i.e. it will not attract big (known / reputed) devs. phone was released in few countries so lower economic tier ppl in these countries will flock to this phone....natural to expect slovenly behaviour, rude attitudes in the community and lack of stability and direction of growth for the phone's rom development, since these ppl (students, mostly) have little knowledge of ethics, professionalism, and are likely to throw the device away for the next shiny fondleslab in the same price range within a year. Some devs are there, but the general populace they pander to is reckless, raging, mercurial youth with little respect for their work and little concern/care for whom they offend, so they can't stick to these guidelines as you speak of....after all they too hold some other work/profession as their main job and rom development is just an after-work thing....

Eat whats on table coz you aint paying ****.

I agree with what you said.
I've been longing for a stable Pie LineageOS or stable AOSP for months. But so far it's been no news.

well, it can't be helped
My actual plan was to just use the stock rom (since it was pure aosp, kinda), but since the pie version still buggy I have to use the custom version, which is pretty meh than my previous devices (xiaomi)