Why is Android Auto not using the GPS antenna of the car? - Android Auto General

I am wondering that AA is not using the GPS antenna of the car. May car (2016 SEAT/VW) has a built in GPS antenna. I would expect a much better signal from the car antenna on the roof. However AA seems to use the phone GPS antenna.
Is this always the case and part of the Android Auto specifications.? Is this the case with your cars as well?
I did check it as follows:
- Use googke maps in AA
- Deactivate GPS in the phone (press last used button and then home button to get to the settings)
- The Headunit in the car is saying "no GPS" so it's obviously using the phones antenna.
Update: My car doesn't seem to have an integrated GPS antenna. That the reason. However the test may be interesting for somebody with an integrated antenna to proof that it is used.

Strange. The web is telling a different story.
Gizmodo:
"I was told at Google I/O last year that Auto could leverages the car’s GPS antenna which should make it more accurate, and it should help to improve the phone’s battery situation."
Androidpit
8 Android Auto will be able to use in-car hardware
Android Auto runs on your phone, but that doesn’t mean it’s limited to your phone’s hardware. Apps will be able to access the car’s own GPS and GPS antenna (if fitted), steering wheel controls, the sound system, the car’s wheel speed, its compass and any mobile antennas, and there are moves to access car data from the vehicle’s own computer too.

Please see update in first post.

I have a Kenwood DDX9702S and a 2011 Honda CRZ that had nav from the factory. The Kenwood includes a GPS antenna passthrough, so I plugged in my OEM GPS antenna. I can confirm that Android Auto does not activate location services on my phone while using it.

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XDA and GPS

I am thinking of getting an XDA to use incar for GPS. I have read some articles on this site but they all seem to approach the problem half way through. Can anyone suggest the best GPS device, cradle, software and anything else that is needed
thanx
gps for xda
try www.routeplanners.co.uk, or www.tomtom.com for the superb TomTom Navigator2 packages for XDA.
Good luck Chop!
You can try also:
http://www.pharosgps.com/products/phone/c_siemens_ppc.htm
There is plenty of useful information on:
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk
Zed,
I would consider buying one of the new generation XDA's (XDA II). They are supposedly equipped with bluetooth. The main advantage with this would be the possibility to buy a bluetooth GPS mouse, or a standalone bluetooth enabled GPS reciever.
The problem with the non-bluetooth GPS mice is their need to use the serialport at the bottom of the device to communicate. If you wan't a car mount kit with amplified speaker built into the back of the cradle, they are only sold as powered mounts which use the serialport for charging.
Thus you would have to use the GPS mouse with charging capabilities and let the charging dongle for the mount with amplified speaker hang loose.
Or you could buy a car mount without power, but then you would not have the amplified speaker functionality.
The amplified speaker functionality is great for spoken directions from some the map softwares available.
Here's a link to a car mount with amplifying speaker:
http://www.arkon.com/CM530.html
I have bought one of these, but I have not recieved it yet.
If you want a review, take a look at:
http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29460&highlight=car*+mount
Here's a listing of GPS'es with prices and links:
http://www.gpspassion.com/en/hardware/gpslist.htm#Mouse GPS Receivers
GPS RECEIVER FOR XDAs
Have got a xdaII;
I first tried Tomtom bluetooth but often ecounter no power for long distance travelling. I sold it afterwards and switched to a wired solution with in car charger. It is perfect.
Details. pls. refer to the link below. It also works with Orange SPVM1000, Imate, MDA, IPAQ etc.
http://shop.wangtao.co.uk/info.aspx?ads=gps
Wish you will be successful in chosing one best suitable for you.
Your profile doesn't say what country you're in, and the answer varies by location. In the USA, Routis is a top-notch application for navigation. Pharos is absolute garbage. Deluo, the company that makes Routis also makes a very nice GPS receiver that works well with the XDA I and XDA II.
Bluetooth GPS receivers are rather silly, in my opinion. Totally pointless, since you need to power both the PDA and the GPS, so...you might as well wire them up. The Deluo kit has a nice arrangement with a lighter socket and a single cable up to the device to carry both power and the GPS data.
I would like to know how you get on with the Arkon, I have the same one and it is unusable, every time the phone changes to a different cell you get that doomp-de-doomp sound, when the phone rings the noise from the speaher due to direct rf breakthrough is absolutely atrocious and makes the system unusable.

What does this do?

http://www.xperiadepot.com/freedom-keychain-gps-2000/10A95A2869.htm
There are no good description for this product. Does anyone know what they do?
I think this is an ordinary gps modul and description made by someone who does not know there is already a gps receiver built-in in X1.
maybe you use it to help find your keys?
Feezer said:
maybe you use it to help find your keys?
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Right but the description confuses me and it does sound exactly like what jabe said. But I would so buy this if it was key finder.
It just a bluetooth GPS module that fits on a key chain. You don't need it as the X1 already has a built in GPS chip. If you had a smartphone without a GPS chip, then there's be some benefit to it.
Or if you wanted to use GPS stuff on a laptop or something with BT etc.
Suppose your X1 is positioned in your car that way that the GPS reception is bad but you cannot relocate it. You can set it up to receive GPS signals from this external module. The module itself can be put anywhere like near a window or on the car's roof or so.
WTF? Did you even read? "The Freedom Keychain GPS 2000 is the world’s lightest and most compact pocket GPS receiver."
It's an external GPS receiver.
gps is receiving only!
you pick up a signal from several satellites and the device calc your position
this keythingy have gps and bluetooth
bluetooth have a range of 10m so even if it could transmit
it's cords to your phone then you would have to be pretty close to the lost keys
an external gps, my brother has one but of a different brand. his loads really quick and there's no need to wait on finding satellites. i'm not sure how this performs though, but for a keychain it seems promising for other phones without a built-in gps
I actually have one of those. Well, mine is a white Vodafone branded one, but it's the same chip, hardware, box, everything. It's actually still vaguely useful - it's DGPS capable (WAAS/EGNOS), which the X1's GPS chip is not (augmented accuracy within certain systems, WAAS for North America/Canada and out to sea within several hundred miles, EGNOS for Europe etc), and it has apparently far better reception - my X1i couldn't pick up a GPS signal to save its life inside a BA Boeing 777 flight. The bluetooth'd external reciever picked up and held a strong signal for the entire 3500 mile flight at 40k ft. And inside a plane fuselage, that's got to be borderline faraday cage.

Pumpkin Android 9.0 Universal Applicable Infotainment System Car Stereo

I found a car stereo at an affordable price these days. When you are going for a budget build, you definitely expect to make some compromises. Maybe this not be the best car stereo on the market, but it is the best value. The model we are going to talk about is Pumpkin Android 9.0 universal applicable infotainment system car stereo.
Scope of delivery
- car stereo
- power cable with Canbus
- camera adapter box
- GPS Antenna
- Wifi Antenna
- External Microphone
- Radio Adaptor
- USB Cable
- USB Extended Cable
- User Manual
► Material/quality/appearance/processing
The processing of the*Pumpkin*radio is very high quality, you notice this immediately when you unpack it.The radio has a matte black finish. The knobs and buttons are very stable, feel comfortable and have a good press point.
► Technical data
The radio has a Qcta-core with4GB DDR3 RAM and the internal memory is 32 GB.With this data, the Android 9.0 system running fluidly and without problems. You can install and play current games on the radio.
The radio supports GPS (preloaded with the Google maps APP) and capacitive touch screen, Bluetooth, steering wheel remote control, Wi-Fi, 3 G, FM, AM, RDS, OBD2
► GPS
Through the supplied GPS antenna,the navigation runs very well.The site search takes just a few seconds after switching on and is extremely accurate. *I have experienced no GPS dropouts. Together with the Google Maps app, the navigation is super easy to adjust because it works like the route planner on the PC or on the phone.
The radio has a TF card reader. This reads standard micro SD card which is used for the extension of the store. (E.g. maps for different countries)
► FM Radio
The radio works fine, it is easy to use. It is convenient to switch channels, and can enjoy different service.
In particular, I find that you can control the volume via the buttons. So you can look the radio even without use. This is definitely a plus point of this radio model.
► Sound quality
The radio impresses me not only with its easy operation, but also by a super sound.The radio has 4 audio outputs with each "real" 50 watt.The heights are very clear and the basses have a rich sound.
► Bluetooth 4.0
The Bluetooth connection is initialized in a few seconds the first time. Each additional time you have to do nothing more.The phone will connect automatically when it is in range of the car. This is very handy, it has a free external mic, so you can clearly listen the bluetooth calls. What’s more, it can read the phonebook, you can call when you can drive and still focus on your road.
► Wifi, Wlan, 3G
The radio convinces with extremely many high-end features. So, as a Wi-Fi access inside the car radio can build up. Friends and family can connect to it and thus surf the Internet over 3G.
► Suitable Cars
The radio has a 2 DIN standard form and thus fits in much cars.
►Smartphone mirror
For Android phone, you can mirror and control on the unit via USB cable connection. As the iphone, you can just mirror on the unit via wifi connection.
► Conclusion
Overall, the price/performance ratio of this radio is not to beat. He keeps everything he promises and can be controlled touch screen through the incredibly easy. He has extremely many features that were described above.
First and only post by "mandyoritz." Obvious spam. Clearly Pumpkin condones and uses deceit and spam, so should NOT be considered if you're looking for a head unit. Don't reward dishonest behavior. Consider anyone EXCEPT Pumpkin.
Oh, and they posted in the wrong place for an Android based head unit, couldn't even figure that out.

Android Auto thinks I'm driving when parked!

This one is really annoying me - with my new Dacia Jogger, I've found that Android Auto always thinks I'm driving, even when parked, with the engine off. The problem with this is some navigation apps completely disable the ability to search for a destination, so I can't progam in a route once I'm connected! Also Gameshack is disabled because AA thinks I'm driving too.
There any way to fix this or stop AA from disabling interactions?
Your headunit has a wire connected to the handbrake sensor in your car, and this way it knows if you're parked and can't restrict some activities. This information is passed from the headunit's firmware to Android Auto internally, and this way Android Auto can restrict or allow you to do some stuff like use the touchpad, use certain buttons, etc.
In order to save money (or due to a bad Android Auto implementation), some headunits don't send handbrake status information to Android Auto. This way you can use the onscreen voice button all the time (in the lower corner of Android Auto) even if the car is moving, but the downside is that some Android Features get broken, like Gamesnacks or alphabetic search in lists. They can do this for a number of reasons, like not having a dedicated voice button in the steering wheel or headunit, but it's not the ideal case.
I suggest you to find other people with the same car model and see if their cars behave in the same way. If so, then this is a headunit problem and the carmaker should release a fix. If this only happens in your car, I would check if there's a wiring issue in the handbrake or something similar is happening.
you might also want to check if there's some settings menu in your headunit with some option to check this.
You can also try to sync a new phone over bluetooth to your car headunit while parked. If it refuses because the car is moving (even if is not) then it could be a wiring issue.

Losing GPS signal in AA

Recently (no change in hardware or software) navigation in AA starts losing GPS signal, mostly at the beginning of te ride, sometimes also during driving. I was not able to find any trigger of this behavior, also no solution, sometimes finds GPS signal again.
My setup is Amigo or Gmap, postmarkt Headunit, Samsung S22+, wireless connection.
When I use GPS without AA I never have this issue.
Anybody else with similar experience and/or a solution to this problem?
Maybe a silly questions, but do you have your phone somewhere it can get a good GPS signal?
Some cars/windshields are notorious for blocking GPS signals depending on the position of the sensor.
I noticed also some GPS drop outs during bad weather (epecially when it is cloudy, rainy or foggy).
psycho762 said:
Maybe a silly questions, but do you have your phone somewhere it can get a good GPS signal?
Some cars/windshields are notorious for blocking GPS signals depending on the position of the sensor.
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It could be, however, phone is lying on the very same spot (saddle between the front seats, on a wireless charger) as the years before.
That's why I suspect the culprit lies somewhere else than GPS signal strenght..
bmszabo said:
It could be, however, phone is lying on the very same spot (saddle between the front seats, on a wireless charger) as the years before.
That's why I suspect the culprit lies somewhere else than GPS signal strenght..
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Some navigation apps, within AA, should and will use the car's GPS, if present: Google Maps does I think, so too does Sygic, that I use; Waze doesn't though, I think. I'm using wireless AA on an Android Head unit, through Headunit Reloaded/Motorola MA1 and that app has an option too, to specify the car's GPS. The phone's GPS will most likely be weaker, especially behind certain kinds of windscreens, whereas a properly implemented car GPS will be connected to the external shark fin antenna, giving a much more robust signal.
I've experienced the same issues, and I noticed that on the phone, the geolocation icon starts blinking too fast. I opened Maps on the phone, and the icon stopped blinking, and AA maps showed the correct GPS location.
So, I think it's AA-related, not an antenna issue.
bmszabo said:
Recently (no change in hardware or software) navigation in AA starts losing GPS signal, mostly at the beginning of te ride, sometimes also during driving. I was not able to find any trigger of this behavior, also no solution, sometimes finds GPS signal again.
My setup is Amigo or Gmap, postmarkt Headunit, Samsung S22+, wireless connection.
When I use GPS without AA I never have this issue.
Anybody else with similar experience and/or a solution to this problem?
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I switched the geolocation permission to "always" for Maps app on the phone.
The issue seems to be disappeared.
This works! Thanks!!

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