Recently (no change in hardware or software) navigation in AA starts losing GPS signal, mostly at the beginning of te ride, sometimes also during driving. I was not able to find any trigger of this behavior, also no solution, sometimes finds GPS signal again.
My setup is Amigo or Gmap, postmarkt Headunit, Samsung S22+, wireless connection.
When I use GPS without AA I never have this issue.
Anybody else with similar experience and/or a solution to this problem?
Maybe a silly questions, but do you have your phone somewhere it can get a good GPS signal?
Some cars/windshields are notorious for blocking GPS signals depending on the position of the sensor.
I noticed also some GPS drop outs during bad weather (epecially when it is cloudy, rainy or foggy).
psycho762 said:
Maybe a silly questions, but do you have your phone somewhere it can get a good GPS signal?
Some cars/windshields are notorious for blocking GPS signals depending on the position of the sensor.
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It could be, however, phone is lying on the very same spot (saddle between the front seats, on a wireless charger) as the years before.
That's why I suspect the culprit lies somewhere else than GPS signal strenght..
bmszabo said:
It could be, however, phone is lying on the very same spot (saddle between the front seats, on a wireless charger) as the years before.
That's why I suspect the culprit lies somewhere else than GPS signal strenght..
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Some navigation apps, within AA, should and will use the car's GPS, if present: Google Maps does I think, so too does Sygic, that I use; Waze doesn't though, I think. I'm using wireless AA on an Android Head unit, through Headunit Reloaded/Motorola MA1 and that app has an option too, to specify the car's GPS. The phone's GPS will most likely be weaker, especially behind certain kinds of windscreens, whereas a properly implemented car GPS will be connected to the external shark fin antenna, giving a much more robust signal.
I've experienced the same issues, and I noticed that on the phone, the geolocation icon starts blinking too fast. I opened Maps on the phone, and the icon stopped blinking, and AA maps showed the correct GPS location.
So, I think it's AA-related, not an antenna issue.
bmszabo said:
Recently (no change in hardware or software) navigation in AA starts losing GPS signal, mostly at the beginning of te ride, sometimes also during driving. I was not able to find any trigger of this behavior, also no solution, sometimes finds GPS signal again.
My setup is Amigo or Gmap, postmarkt Headunit, Samsung S22+, wireless connection.
When I use GPS without AA I never have this issue.
Anybody else with similar experience and/or a solution to this problem?
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I switched the geolocation permission to "always" for Maps app on the phone.
The issue seems to be disappeared.
This works! Thanks!!
Related
http://www.xperiadepot.com/freedom-keychain-gps-2000/10A95A2869.htm
There are no good description for this product. Does anyone know what they do?
I think this is an ordinary gps modul and description made by someone who does not know there is already a gps receiver built-in in X1.
maybe you use it to help find your keys?
Feezer said:
maybe you use it to help find your keys?
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Right but the description confuses me and it does sound exactly like what jabe said. But I would so buy this if it was key finder.
It just a bluetooth GPS module that fits on a key chain. You don't need it as the X1 already has a built in GPS chip. If you had a smartphone without a GPS chip, then there's be some benefit to it.
Or if you wanted to use GPS stuff on a laptop or something with BT etc.
Suppose your X1 is positioned in your car that way that the GPS reception is bad but you cannot relocate it. You can set it up to receive GPS signals from this external module. The module itself can be put anywhere like near a window or on the car's roof or so.
WTF? Did you even read? "The Freedom Keychain GPS 2000 is the world’s lightest and most compact pocket GPS receiver."
It's an external GPS receiver.
gps is receiving only!
you pick up a signal from several satellites and the device calc your position
this keythingy have gps and bluetooth
bluetooth have a range of 10m so even if it could transmit
it's cords to your phone then you would have to be pretty close to the lost keys
an external gps, my brother has one but of a different brand. his loads really quick and there's no need to wait on finding satellites. i'm not sure how this performs though, but for a keychain it seems promising for other phones without a built-in gps
I actually have one of those. Well, mine is a white Vodafone branded one, but it's the same chip, hardware, box, everything. It's actually still vaguely useful - it's DGPS capable (WAAS/EGNOS), which the X1's GPS chip is not (augmented accuracy within certain systems, WAAS for North America/Canada and out to sea within several hundred miles, EGNOS for Europe etc), and it has apparently far better reception - my X1i couldn't pick up a GPS signal to save its life inside a BA Boeing 777 flight. The bluetooth'd external reciever picked up and held a strong signal for the entire 3500 mile flight at 40k ft. And inside a plane fuselage, that's got to be borderline faraday cage.
Hi,
I'm using my Galaxy S for car navigation. However, often the GPS receiver jumps randomly over the map, or takes ages to show the turn I just made. And sometimes it just keeps going, although I stopped at a light.
I have my phone mounted on the dashboard, the fix is usually made within one to two minutes.
Is it possible that the internal receiver is just that crappy? Has anyone better experiences with car navigation? Is there a fix?
Looking forward on hearing your opinion.
Cheers,
Tony.
Search GPS aids in the market and install that. Works great.
Has anyone better experiences with car navigation
No problem with mine even get a good track if its in the glove box in the car .
But as has been said multiple posts on the subject worth reading if you have a problem GPS .
jje
TNY0 said:
Hi,
I'm using my Galaxy S for car navigation. However, often the GPS receiver jumps randomly over the map, or takes ages to show the turn I just made. And sometimes it just keeps going, although I stopped at a light.
I have my phone mounted on the dashboard, the fix is usually made within one to two minutes.
Is it possible that the internal receiver is just that crappy? Has anyone better experiences with car navigation? Is there a fix?
Looking forward on hearing your opinion.
Cheers,
Tony.
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Buy an external GPS reciever. These can be picked up cheap enough on ebay/ Amazon etc See here for more info
I'm going to atrix due to crap gps on galaxy s
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TNY0 said:
Hi,
I'm using my Galaxy S for car navigation. However, often the GPS receiver jumps randomly over the map, or takes ages to show the turn I just made. And sometimes it just keeps going, although I stopped at a light.
I have my phone mounted on the dashboard, the fix is usually made within one to two minutes.
Is it possible that the internal receiver is just that crappy? Has anyone better experiences with car navigation? Is there a fix?
Looking forward on hearing your opinion.
Cheers,
Tony.
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My experience is that the GPS IS that crappy, but if you use JPY, whilst I haven't tested it scientifically, it does seem as though it's usable enough.
Which firmware you using?
My advise though is to get an external receiver honestly (that's what I should do), because the only good feedback I've seen about the GPS NEVER includes tracks (and I have made tracks in the past, and they were rediculously horrific at some points compared to a forerunner).
Thanks for the answers. I think I'll try GPS Aids. Hopefully an external GPS won't be necessary...
I have exactly the same experiance as TNY0. GPS reacts very late and I am often on a different street. It makes SGS unusable for navigation in cities. I have tried various navigation software and all behaved in the same way, so it must be a hardware issue. I have also tried GPS Aids, it helps getting quicker fix, but does not solve inaccuracy of the GPS. I did complete wipe of the phone and installed Darkys v9.2 resurrection and than Darkys v9.3 beta3, but with no success, GPS remained crappy. :-(
If you want to mess with the GPS then their are a number of threads on here .
But i would go to rom kitchin and build new rom after reading modem and gps faqs if you are no better you can always change the modem .
Mine is excellent on JPY modem .
jje
Best results that I have seen were after installing these modified GPS daemon and settings files from Da_G on the Captivate forum. Difference was very noticeable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881941
Also, hardcore kernel helped as well.
Needed a rooted phone for either of these options.
Hi,
After several months using AA in a Golf MY16 with two different smarphones with Android 5.0 & 5.1, using different AA releases, then I have found one "use case" when the AA "fails" (=disconnects from the HU):
* When you're driving inside a tunnel and the car's GPS losses the signal, in this case the AA *always* disconnects from the Head Unit.
Did you have a similar experience?
Hi,
No one with similar behaviour? :silly:
No problem with my 2016 Jetta. Google Maps says me that GPS signal was lost but there is no error. Are you sure it's using the car GPS ? I find it is not very accurate at some places.. Which phones do you use ? I found Marshallow more stable than Lollipop with Android Auto. I had connection drops with 5..1.1 but it was random and not related to GPS signal lost. No problem at all with 6.0.
marcjero said:
I found Marshallow more stable than Lollipop with Android Auto. I had connection drops with 5..1.1 but it was random and not related to GPS signal lost. No problem at all with 6.0.
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Thank you for the report! I'm using Lollipop 5.0 & 5.1 in two different smartphones. I'll check with some spare MM 6.0 when I have time.
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you are welcome.
It seems that Android Auto is using the phone GPS (at keast with the VW head unit) Just try to disable the phone GPS before connecting the phone to the car and start Maps : you will be asked to enable the GPS. Really sad.
Hi,
If it's true that AA is using internal (phone) GPS instead of car GPS (almost in a Golf MY16), then the problem can be when the PHONE losses the GPS data... Even, I feel the real problem is: the phone likes to say "GPS disconnected" and the disconnection ocurs because some trouble exists with the audio output.
I also detected that sometimes when a WhatsApp is received, also the AA is disconnected. I hope Google can fix this trouble with the "AUDIO OUTPUT".
You have a similar problem?
manos78 said:
Hi,
If it's true that AA is using internal (phone) GPS instead of car GPS (almost in a Golf MY16), then the problem can be when the PHONE losses the GPS data... Even, I feel the real problem is: the phone likes to say "GPS disconnected" and the disconnection ocurs because some trouble exists with the audio output.
I also detected that sometimes when a WhatsApp is received, also the AA is disconnected. I hope Google can fix this trouble with the "AUDIO OUTPUT".
You have a similar problem?
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Yes I got something similar when trying to run Waze in the background. Waze audio notification made the connection drop. It was with 5.1..1. I can have a try with Marshallow.
UPDATE : no problem at all with Marshallow (CM13) : I was able to run Maps and Waze at the same time. Got Waze audio notifications. No USB connection drop. The only issue is my Nexus 4 did a shutdown because it was overheating but it's a common issue with the Nexus.
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UPDATE : no problem at all with Marshallow (CM13) : I was able to run Maps and Waze at the same time. Got Waze audio notifications. No USB connection drop. The only issue is my Nexus 4 did a shutdown because it was overheating but it's a common issue with the Nexus.
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Thanks for the info! :good:
I suspect the problem is then related to the audio route inside Android 5.x
Hi,
More info:
Using Android 5.x, VW Golf MY2016 with CAR GPS, and last AndroidAuto App, the GPS signal is comming... FROM THE PHONE! So, yes, VW is not sending GPS signal to the AA process. In this case, when the phone losses the GPS signal, the AA process crashes. This is then the problem in my system: when GPS signal is lost inside a tunnel, then the HeadUnit disconnects with the AA process.
I hope Google fixes soon this problem. Also, I hope VW can upgrade the MIB software for sending ALL car data (including GPS position and ORIENTATION) to the AA process.
Regards.
And hope a droid will accept that data.
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Nova5 said:
And hope a droid will accept that data.
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Yes I'm afraid AA is too much complicated. It crashes for many phones. Manufacturers doesn't implement all the features but imagine you have to build a head unit with GPS, Car Play, Android Auto, MIrrorlink... and all these subsystems (that does the same job : screen mirroring) have to send car and gps data to phones. using all the protocols. That's just crazy. And when it works you get frustrated because of usage limitations.
I am wondering that AA is not using the GPS antenna of the car. May car (2016 SEAT/VW) has a built in GPS antenna. I would expect a much better signal from the car antenna on the roof. However AA seems to use the phone GPS antenna.
Is this always the case and part of the Android Auto specifications.? Is this the case with your cars as well?
I did check it as follows:
- Use googke maps in AA
- Deactivate GPS in the phone (press last used button and then home button to get to the settings)
- The Headunit in the car is saying "no GPS" so it's obviously using the phones antenna.
Update: My car doesn't seem to have an integrated GPS antenna. That the reason. However the test may be interesting for somebody with an integrated antenna to proof that it is used.
Strange. The web is telling a different story.
Gizmodo:
"I was told at Google I/O last year that Auto could leverages the car’s GPS antenna which should make it more accurate, and it should help to improve the phone’s battery situation."
Androidpit
8 Android Auto will be able to use in-car hardware
Android Auto runs on your phone, but that doesn’t mean it’s limited to your phone’s hardware. Apps will be able to access the car’s own GPS and GPS antenna (if fitted), steering wheel controls, the sound system, the car’s wheel speed, its compass and any mobile antennas, and there are moves to access car data from the vehicle’s own computer too.
Please see update in first post.
I have a Kenwood DDX9702S and a 2011 Honda CRZ that had nav from the factory. The Kenwood includes a GPS antenna passthrough, so I plugged in my OEM GPS antenna. I can confirm that Android Auto does not activate location services on my phone while using it.
Hello to all...
Just wan't to solve some issue with USB dab+ signal.
I bought Dab+ usb dongle (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32861687291.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef18023f5v55) and now is connected to my multimedia device (ALPS FF5000 / 8227L chipset) in car (Peugeot 308 mk1 2011y). Installed an app called DAB Z for running DAB+ radio.
Supposedly, the signal is stronger and good when used without lights on the car, but when you turn on the lights, the signal simply disappears or is zero.
I noticed this when I started the car radio without the engine running. When I turn on the car and the lights (both the car radio and its lights come on - which means it draws energy from the battery and may take extra power to power the usb ports where the usb dongle is) the signal is simply lost. How do I solve this, when I turn on the lights so the signal doesn't go away, does anyone know?
Thanks to everyone in advance for your help!
Best regards!
Those DAB+ antennas are garbage. Buy proper antenna, but only antenna, and keep this usb dongle. Those glass mounted antennas only works in really great conditions.
kv1dr said:
Those DAB+ antennas are garbage. Buy proper antenna, but only antenna, and keep this usb dongle. Those glass mounted antennas only works in really great conditions.
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Yes I noticed , I bought another one better signal is stronger, but I noticed also that problem was in led lights installed in car. They cause interference of antenna if no resistors installed with led bulbs. I removed them and put origin al H7 bulbs and now signal is great. But I'm in to solve that problem with lights and antennas. Have you come across this problem ?
Hm. I don't remember anymore. I also think I had some problems when I turned on ignition in my car. But I never researched, if the issue was led lights or anything else. I just bought better antena, that I mounted on the roof, and since then, I don't have any problems with signal anymore. I can listen to DAB+ radio in most remote areas possible. I also noticed that if I put this better antenna inside the car, signal drops instantly. So I have to put it on the roof.
kv1dr said:
Hm. I don't remember anymore. I also think I had some problems when I turned on ignition in my car. But I never researched, if the issue was led lights or anything else. I just bought better antena, that I mounted on the roof, and since then, I don't have any problems with signal anymore. I can listen to DAB+ radio in most remote areas possible. I also noticed that if I put this better antenna inside the car, signal drops instantly. So I have to put it on the roof.
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I have bought 3 in 1 antenna amplifier . Dab+ and Fm. It strenghten signal significally. I resolved this problem but still, problem remains with led lights as they don't have any resistors and cause interference with antenna.