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[Q] Access to more Network Mode options? XT1053

I saw a few screenshots of people's Moto X's from sprint with a bunch of options under Network Mode. I have the XT1053 (TMO unlocked, on ATT network) and the only options I see are "Auto" and "2G."
I browsed around and found that there's an LTE OnOff app, but I'm just wondering if there's a way I can get those options for 3G on my device's Network Mode option list?
The reason why I even care is because for some reason at my workplace, I can't seem to get any data through LTE. My signal will display 3 bars of LTE, but it absolutely does not work. While it will turn off LTE and just say 4G since it's on auto, I find that a majority of my day, it WON'T switch. It stays on 4G LTE 99% of the time and does not function at all. When I walk outside the building, LTE works perfectly fine. Would I be right to assume that the auto mode is literally on borderline between switching, so it never establishes a stable connection?
I guess it brings me to the question, is the Auto mode inefficient / will I have to live with manually turning off LTE every time I get to work? :/

noc215 said:
I saw a few screenshots of people's Moto X's from sprint with a bunch of options under Network Mode. I have the XT1053 (TMO unlocked, on ATT network) and the only options I see are "Auto" and "2G."
I browsed around and found that there's an LTE OnOff app, but I'm just wondering if there's a way I can get those options for 3G on my device's Network Mode option list?
The reason why I even care is because for some reason at my workplace, I can't seem to get any data through LTE. My signal will display 3 bars of LTE, but it absolutely does not work. While it will turn off LTE and just say 4G since it's on auto, I find that a majority of my day, it WON'T switch. It stays on 4G LTE 99% of the time and does not function at all. When I walk outside the building, LTE works perfectly fine. Would I be right to assume that the auto mode is literally on borderline between switching, so it never establishes a stable connection?
I guess it brings me to the question, is the Auto mode inefficient / will I have to live with manually turning off LTE every time I get to work? :/
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3 bars of LTE is an excellent signal. With 1 bar of signal I can still get 15mbps down from my provider. If your phone is detecting such a strong received signal it won't be switching back to HSPA on its own. For some reason the building you're in may block the phones transmitted signal more then it blocks the signal from the cell site. I am guessing you're on band 4 LTE which has quite the frequency difference between uplink and downlink. Your only option(assuming the phone or cell site isn't defective) is to manually switch to WCDMA with a third party app such as the "LTE setting" app in the Play store. Or unlock your bootloader and flash firmware from another provider that has more options. I know the Rogers Canada firmware has an LTE on/off option, it also has a 2G only option. Sadly Rogers has not yet approved the release of 4.4 (kitkat).

Steve-x said:
3 bars of LTE is an excellent signal. With 1 bar of signal I can still get 15mbps down from my provider. If your phone is detecting such a strong received signal it won't be switching back to HSPA on its own. For some reason the building you're in may block the phones transmitted signal more then it blocks the signal from the cell site. I am guessing you're on band 4 LTE which has quite the frequency difference between uplink and downlink. Your only option(assuming the phone or cell site isn't defective) is to manually switch to WCDMA with a third party app such as the "LTE setting" app in the Play store. Or unlock your bootloader and flash firmware from another provider that has more options. I know the Rogers Canada firmware has an LTE on/off option, it also has a 2G only option. Sadly Rogers has not yet approved the release of 4.4 (kitkat).
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That makes a lot more sense to me now. So basically the "Auto" mode only considers my reception and not transmittance strength, so it never saw a need to switch me off LTE. I am almost sure it is not my phone because I started experiencing a signal loss issue with my S3 a few days ago. I doubt it's the cell site because as soon as I step out of the building, LTE works with no problems.
I did ended up using LTE OnOff to force CDMA and I can actually do stuff now. I went and did a speedtest ...
Ping: 114 ms
Down: 4.06 Mbps
Up: 0.77 Mbps
I guess with the lack of options, I have yet another reason to roll up the sleeves and get my hands dirty. Haven't touched ABD since I had a samsung captivate!
Thank you

Force AWS

Is there a way to force AWS (or change LTE bands in general) on the Turbo?

Use lte discovery from the play store

joshm.1219 said:
Use lte discovery from the play store
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What exactly does this do? Never heard of it.

the_rooter said:
What exactly does this do? Never heard of it.
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It primarily helps you find LTE where you should be getting it, but aren't. So basically if you're on 3G somewhere that you know you should be getting LTE, it cycles your data connection to connect to LTE. You can switch bands, lock onto GPS, and look at some advanced signal stats too.

This is something generally controlled by the carrier for a reason, like you'd get a ****ty connection on AWS so its putting you on 700.

Somewhat along the lines of this...
Is there a way to force 3G-only when in a bad LTE area? I have 2-3 bars of 4G, but data absolutely sucks.

Any way to test radio frequencies with Nexus 6?

I'm planning on getting a Meizu Mx4 Pro to play around with but it only supports the 1900mhz band for 3G. I am on T-mobile and only the refarmed areas use the 1900mhz band. Is there a way to test with my Nexus 6 via some app or settings whether my area is using the 1900mhz band? I also read somewhere that if you get T-mobile LTE you are in a refarmed area as the 1700mhz AWS band is being used for LTE instead of 3G and the 1900mhz has been refarmed there for 3G instead, although I am taking the statement with a grain of salt for now.

Search for app called LTE discovery

obsanity said:
Search for app called LTE discovery
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I think that will tell you what frequency you are on, but not allow you to set a specific frequency. To my knowledge there is no way to do that on the Nexus 6 yet. Could be wrong?
The data service menu is missing on this phone.

You can get into the Field Test Settings, but I highly recommend not jacking with anything....I went in there for a look see, and when I backed out I was somehow in GSM mode and could NOT get back to CDMA until I did a complete nuke and repave of the Google Factory images to get back the CDMA network.
YMMV...but be warned

crowbarman said:
I think that will tell you what frequency you are on, but not allow you to set a specific frequency. To my knowledge there is no way to do that on the Nexus 6 yet. Could be wrong?
The data service menu is missing on this phone.
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I believe op wanted to see what bands his phone/provider is using. LTE discovery shows what bands you are connected to.

obsanity said:
I believe op wanted to see what bands his phone/provider is using. LTE discovery shows what bands you are connected to.
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If multiple bands are available in an area, LTE Discovery will not show you the additional bands, only the one you are using. You'd need to use a service screen to manually set your phone to a specific band, which is not possible currently. Maybe OP can chime in with more detail.

crowbarman said:
If multiple bands are available in an area, LTE Discovery will not show you the additional bands, only the one you are using. You'd need to use a service screen to manually set your phone to a specific band, which is not possible currently. Maybe OP can chime in with more detail.
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I don't think we need further explanation from the op. It seems clear to me that he is trying to see whether his area has been re-farmed to band 2 1900mhz or has been left at the usual band 4 1700mhz.
Using LTE discovery will show him what band he is connected to on his phone. If it will be band 4, than his new phone he is trying to get will not have LTE. Although sometimes both bands are available so in that case he would have to have the ability to switch.
Switching bands is possible through phone info screen accessible using an activity launcher of some sort. Once you're in phone info , hit menu and select radio band. But I don't think that's what he initially was looking for.

obsanity said:
I don't think we need further explanation from the op. It seems clear to me that he is trying to see whether his area has been re-farmed to band 2 1900mhz or has been left at the usual band 4 1700mhz.
Using LTE discovery will show him what band he is connected to on his phone. If it will be band 4, than his new phone he is trying to get will not have LTE. Although sometimes both bands are available so in that case he would have to have the ability to switch.
Switching bands is possible through phone info screen accessible using an activity launcher of some sort. Once you're in phone info , hit menu and select radio band. But I don't think that's what he initially was looking for.
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Perhaps, but there is no known phone accessible screen found on the Nexus 6 that allows band selection. Some have used this to determine whether certain bands are starting to be rolled out in various areas.
Edit: I'll qualify that the menu exists but does not allow a selection of all LTE bands. I can only select US, 6 or 7 on my phone.

crowbarman said:
Perhaps, but there is no known phone accessible screen found on the Nexus 6 that allows band selection. Some have used this to determine whether certain bands are starting to be rolled out in various areas.
Edit: I'll qualify that the menu exists but does not allow a selection of all LTE bands. I can only select US, 6 or 7 on my phone.
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Thats interesting, on mine under the Filed Test Menu's I had Base 10 and maybe others I dont recall.

cmh714 said:
Thats interesting, on mine under the Filed Test Menu's I had Base 10 and maybe others I dont recall.
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Any detail steps to go into field test menu?

Azlun said:
Any detail steps to go into field test menu?
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*#*#4636#*#*

cmh714 said:
*#*#4636#*#*
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thank you for your reply, but I think 4636 is not for field test, info inside is too less.

cmh714 said:
You can get into the Field Test Settings, but I highly recommend not jacking with anything....I went in there for a look see, and when I backed out I was somehow in GSM mode and could NOT get back to CDMA until I did a complete nuke and repave of the Google Factory images to get back the CDMA network.
YMMV...but be warned
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please all not this warning，never use 4636 three dots options menu to select anything it is dangerous to make you lost all signals... Can can search my post in other thread how to write nv6828 value to control LTE bands.
Another side, for OP, to view LTE bands, LTE discovery 3.19 support the real hidden field test menu in as LTE Engineering beta menu. Keyword in below post: @201504
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59132197

T-Mobile LTE band 12 in the SF Bay Area

I have a Verizon S8 that I flashed with the XAC firmware and so I'm at XAA/VZW/VZW after enabling all bands. However, even though the entire bay area should be blanketed under band 12, I have not once connected to band 12. I'm always on band 4. Has anyone with a original Tmo S8 ever connected to band 12 in the SF bay area? You can check using LTE Discovery or SignalCheck apps from the Play store. The whole reason for me to go through the trouble of flashing the non-VZW firmware was to ensure I would be able to access band 12 but doesn't seem like that worked.

I'm sitting at home on my T-Mo S8 in the SF Bay Area and I'm on Band 4. I'll check at work tomorrow morning and let you know.

If you don't have connectivity issues, it shouldn't go to band 12. As band 12 is a lower frequency and cannot carry as much bandwidth. From what I've researched previously, the phone will only take a band 12 signal if there are no other bands with a stable signal in the area as tmobile got it for the sole purpose of distance and wall penetration achieved at 700mhz to say they have a larger LTE coverage map.
. Also this from experience as my house only gets band 2 outside and when I come inside it switches to band 12. And with the lte booster connected, it uses the outside band 2.
Unless you are saying that your phone goes to no service instead of to band 12, then i have no answer

Dail *#0011# in your phone to see if band 12 is being aggregated with band 4.
If you want to see if band 12 works you could dial *#2263# and select only band 12 to work.

esjames said:
Dail *#0011# in your phone to see if band 12 is being aggregated with band 4.
If you want to see if band 12 works you could dial *#2263# and select only band 12 to work.
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after we select band 12 only or any other band of our choices, how do u apply the new setting ? i click on back and entered 0011 and noticed im still on band 4 ? then i went back to 2263 and noticed all the lte band are still selected with *

oohoy said:
after we select band 12 only or any other band of our choices, how do u apply the new setting ? i click on back and entered 0011 and noticed im still on band 4 ? then i went back to 2263 and noticed all the lte band are still selected with *
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You have to select "Apply band configuration" after you selected the ones you want or they wont take effect.

esjames said:
You have to select "Apply band configuration" after you selected the ones you want or they wont take effect.
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got cha. gotta hit back to previous screen where i previous selected lte band, but press option 7 to apply setting. lol. still new at this but it works. although band 12 is just as slow as band 4 at home. i get faster speed with band 2, however, lte discover still shows band 4 even though im actually on band 2.
tks again

oohoy said:
got cha. gotta hit back to previous screen where i previous selected lte band, but press option 7 to apply setting. lol. still new at this but it works. although band 12 is just as slow as band 4 at home. i get faster speed with band 2, however, lte discover still shows band 4 even though im actually on band 2.
tks again
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No prob!
I used LTE discovery before and it always told me i was on band 4 when it wasn't in my area, only 2/12.

esjames said:
No prob!
I used LTE discovery before and it always told me i was on band 4 when it wasn't in my area, only 2/12.
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never got to try the service modes since i been using verizon brand phones on tmobile , lol. it makes so much sense to use tmobile brand samsung phone on tmobile network.
anyway now i can wait patiently on the root. no need to get network signal guru now to change lte bands since that app requires root

Thanks all. I bought the Verizon version cuz it's unlocked and it was the cheapest at Best buy. Plus it would be a hand me down for my bro who's on Verizon service when I upgrade lol I always thought band 12 was the godsend for Tmo. I did not know it was just a fall back band. I did notice today at work I was occasionally connected to band 12 but would almost immediately reconnect to 4 whenever I checked. Either signalcheck app was wrong or it really only uses 12 for a back up if nothing else is available.

Xiaomi's/MIUI's Network Band Prioritization

Hello guys,
I'm using Mi9T Pro with Stock EU rom MIUI 12 version 12.0.4
I have this issue with Xiaomi regarding how the system handles prioritization of Network Band when it comes to using Mobile Data connection.
We know that we have options to prefer 4G, 3G or 2G. But it doesn't define which specific band. Like for example, 4G can be 4G/LTE or 4G+/LTE+. These 2 networks seem to be the same but these actually have different network bands
The question is how does Xiaomi system prioritize which band to select?
Does it prefer the one with higher signal or the one that pings better.
I have this question because as I have experienced, Xiaomi system seem to prefer the one with better signal regardless if it can't even pull any data. In short, it will keep connecting to a network with a better signal strength even if you won't get any internet connection out of it.
I've been noticing this when I set my phone to 4G preferred in my location. When signal indicator turns to 4G/LTE. It may seem to show you that you're connected to the internet but you can't really browse anything because there's actually no data for that band. But when it turns to 4G+, that's when I really get to connect to the internet.
And the biggest problem is that the system prefers to connect to the 4G band. That's why I'd prefer using 3G network because I have a more stable 3G+ signal here.
Another thing that's really disappointing is that my other phone OnePlus 5T handles this well. We share the same APN.
Sadly there's no band selection in *#*#4636#*#*
It would be glad if anyone could provide a better solution to this.
Thank you!

peeweew said:
We know that we have options to prefer 4G, 3G or 2G. But it doesn't define which specific band. Like for example, 4G can be 4G/LTE or 4G+/LTE+. These 2 networks seem to be the same but these actually have different network bands
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I've been noticing this when I set my phone to 4G preferred in my location. When signal indicator turns to 4G/LTE. It may seem to show you that you're connected to the internet but you can't really browse anything because there's actually no data for that band. But when it turns to 4G+, that's when I really get to connect to the internet. ..
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4+ g usually means (specially on Xiaomi phones) LTE Advanced Carrier Aggregation where no other/different bands are used but instead the phone is in parallel attached to more than one 4g band. As such, it increases the speed (and maybe, in your case provides a fail-over?!):
https://www.gizbot.com/mobile/featu...ifference-between-4g-4g-explained-053769.html
However, there is another question why (on that place) you have strong 4g signal with no Internet, so that when your phone switches to CA and in parallel attaches to another 4g band (maybe with a weaker signal) it obtains Internet connection over that second band
At least to better understand on which band (at which place and which base station) you have a 4g signal but with no Internet connection, install an app like Network Cell Info Lite, LTE Discovery, Net Monitor Lite). I think with Net Monster (all apps are on Playstore) you can even see on the map where is the base station you are attached to
If your phone is rooted, you could use Network Signal Guru that will show you, in case of 4+g all bands you are aggregated to with their signal strengths, base stations locations, etc (apps above would always show just one, primary band):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/help/monitoring-4g-advanced-aggregated-t4107967

zgfg said:
4+ g usually means (specially on Xiaomi phones) LTE Advanced Carrier Aggregation where no other/different bands are used but instead the phone is in parallel attached to more than one 4g band. As such, it increases the speed (and maybe, in your case provides a fail-over?!):
https://www.gizbot.com/mobile/featu...ifference-between-4g-4g-explained-053769.html
However, there is another question why (on that place) you have strong 4g signal with no Internet, so that when your phone switches to CA and in parallel attaches to another 4g band (maybe with a weaker signal) it obtains Internet connection over that second band
At least to better understand on which band (at which place and which base station) you have a 4g signal but with no Internet connection, install an app like Network Cell Info Lite, LTE Discovery, Net Monitor Lite). I think with Net Monster (all apps are on Playstore) you can even see on the map where is the base station you are attached to
If your phone is rooted, you could use Network Signal Guru that will show you, in case of 4+g all bands you are aggregated to with their signal strengths, base stations locations, etc (apps above would always show just one, primary band):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/help/monitoring-4g-advanced-aggregated-t4107967
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Ohhh thank you for this explanation.... Someone actually mentioned aggregation to me also. This helps make me clear up how Xiaomi does this and that. Does this mean force selection of network band won't work on Xiaomi devices?

peeweew said:
Ohhh thank you for this explanation.... Someone actually mentioned aggregation to me also. This helps make me clear up how Xiaomi does this and that. Does this mean force selection of network band won't work on Xiaomi devices?
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I'm pretty sure that with MIUI 11 there was an option to disable/enable 4+, but on MIUI 12 (12.0.2 QFJEUXM) there is no more that option
I don't know of other options (except to prefer 4, 3 or 2 g), specially about selecting bands

choose band mode
peeweew said:
Hello guys,
I'm using Mi9T Pro with Stock EU rom MIUI 12 version 12.0.4
I have this issue with Xiaomi regarding how the system handles prioritization of Network Band when it comes to using Mobile Data connection.
We know that we have options to prefer 4G, 3G or 2G. But it doesn't define which specific band. Like for example, 4G can be 4G/LTE or 4G+/LTE+. These 2 networks seem to be the same but these actually have different network bands
The question is how does Xiaomi system prioritize which band to select?
Does it prefer the one with higher signal or the one that pings better.
I have this question because as I have experienced, Xiaomi system seem to prefer the one with better signal regardless if it can't even pull any data. In short, it will keep connecting to a network with a better signal strength even if you won't get any internet connection out of it.
I've been noticing this when I set my phone to 4G preferred in my location. When signal indicator turns to 4G/LTE. It may seem to show you that you're connected to the internet but you can't really browse anything because there's actually no data for that band. But when it turns to 4G+, that's when I really get to connect to the internet.
And the biggest problem is that the system prefers to connect to the 4G band. That's why I'd prefer using 3G network because I have a more stable 3G+ signal here.
Another thing that's really disappointing is that my other phone OnePlus 5T handles this well. We share the same APN.
Sadly there's no band selection in *#*#4636#*#*
It would be glad if anyone could provide a better solution to this.
Thank you!
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Download activity launcher (play store), run it
Search band mode ===> Set radio band mode
Choose band mode you need

uncomment said:
Download activity launcher (play store), run it
Search band mode ===> Set radio band mode
Choose band mode you need
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This is what I was looking for.
Thanks!