So I've been running pure nexus for the majority of the time I've had my shamu, and so far for me at least, the only noticeable difference I've seen is the using the volume rocker to change the music track. And CMTE, but that's gone now, so I'm thinking of going to stock and just rooting? And maybe using xposed, so what's your opinion, am I better off staying on PN, or should I move to stock and root? I've never had a great experience of xposed on other devices, should I give it a go on my shamu? Thanks guys!
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It is a personal choice Rom/Not.
I don't like the monthly updates.
Now I am using a prerooted. stock rom of Danvdh.
With TWRP I flash the latest rom,after wiping the system and caches, in a few minutes I am up to date.
You could give it a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=59561445/
joshtk98 said:
So I've been running pure nexus for the majority of the time I've had my shamu, and so far for me at least, the only noticeable difference I've seen is the using the volume rocker to change the music track. And CMTE, but that's gone now, so I'm thinking of going to stock and just rooting? And maybe using xposed, so what's your opinion, am I better off staying on PN, or should I move to stock and root? I've never had a great experience of xposed on other devices, should I give it a go on my shamu? Thanks guys!
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Try Dirty Unicorns. Has the 2 options you mentioned and is overall stable and up to date.
no one really cares what you use, sorry about the flat out honesty. but its alwaya your choice, all depending on your wants and needs. so, just make a decision and choose.
All the stuff in PN settings is not in the stock ROM.
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Sticking with PN
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My mom wants to get a new phone for Xmas and one from bell and she liked the xperia t cause of its camera and stuff so I'm wondering is it a good phone? It seems pretty good, I told her to get the nexus 4 but bell doesn't provide it
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Excellent device. Highly recommended. Is your Mom tech savy?
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No not really but I am so I would most likely root it for her and put like a jellybean rom on it
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No not really but I am so I would most likely root it for her and put like a jellybean rom on it
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I'd leave it unrooted and let her get on with it!
I've actually gone back to stock unrooted ROM as I like the Sony experience so much and can backup my apps/data with their built-in backup and restore app. (My main reason for root was to be able to use Titanium Backup.)
I know you can do loads of extra stuff once rooted but will she really want a less stable, and bleeding edge build or a tweaked or over clocked kernel? I doubt it - she'll just want a reliable phone with a good user experience, which the Xperia T provides.
I came here from the Galaxy Note, and which I love but constantly wanted to tweak, and flash, etc. As I felt something was missing. I don't feel like that with the Xperia T - it just works!
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I'd leave it unrooted and let her get on with it!
I've actually gone back to stock unrooted ROM as I like the Sony experience so much and can backup my apps/data with their built-in backup and restore app.
I know you can do loads of extra stuff once rooted but will she really want a less stable, and bleeding edge build or a tweaked or over clocked kernel? I doubt it - even she'll just want a reliable phone with a good user experience, which the Xperia T provides.
I came here from the Galaxy Note, and which I love but constantly wanted to tweak, and flash, etc. As I felt something was missing. I don't feel like that with the Xperia T - it just works!
If I helped hit thanks!
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I am currently uploading a pure stock rom, the only difference is root....check the development thread..30 minutes untill its ready
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I am currently uploading a pure stock rom, the only difference is root....check the development thread..30 minutes untill its ready
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Maybe I'll be rooting over the weekend again then!
If I helped hit thanks!
Okaay thanks
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Can you tell me why you are not rooted. I'm just curious. I've seen a lot of people that say they are not rooted and or rooted but not running a ROM. I've done it a lot on my gnex but have not found the need to do it on this phone.
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Same here. Still not rooted.
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I just rooted last night, Stock kernel, Stock ROM. The only reason I rooted was so that I could calibrate my display on my phone. There is no other reason for me.
rooted but still using stock ROM
After rooted you can install so many useful apps (e.g. CWM Recovery, Titanium Backup Pro, Market Enabler, Root Explorer........)
Everything is good here, so why put development software on it.?
There's no reason to not root, or at least unlock the bootloader, when you first get the phone. It'll save you a ton of hassle down the road should you ever decide that you want or need root
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Everything is good here, so why put development software on it.?
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Because you can? I don't have the bloody phone yet, but it's going to get rooted.
Ordered my Nexus 4 on Nov. 13th. Still waiting.
Yeah I'm unlocking the bootloader as soon as it arrives, I'll probably leave it stock for a bit but my last 3 devices I bought with the intention of leaving them stock, then decided to root later, and 3 devices I lost data on. So yeah just unlock it when you get it to leave the option open
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I'm not rooted because:
1) I have no need to be. Stock does everything I want it to do.
2) Having root doesn't allow some apps to work such as Google Movies & TV.
3) I got sick of flashing ROMs, making backups, and restoring everything after a wipe.
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Root is useful for some application like ads filter, anti virus like Avast with remote controls. It is only a choice to do if you really need it
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You guys probably are not aware of the amazing custom Roms like paranoidandroid that gives you so much control of your phone. Also great kernels like matrix that gives you more Battery life. Stock is great but android is all about modding.
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El Daddy said:
I'm not rooted because:
2) Having root doesn't allow some apps to work such as Google Movies & TV.
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/07/google-play-movies-streams-rooted-android-devices-now/
They fixed that actually...
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Cor-master said:
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/07/google-play-movies-streams-rooted-android-devices-now/
They fixed that actually...
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Oh nice. I'm glad they fixed that.
This is going to be my first android phone as I'm coming from blackberry and I was doing some research as to rooting my device. That's probably the direction I am going to go but I just had one question. What are the potential drawbacks of rooting your device? I read that some apps don't work such as banking apps and things along those lines. Just wanted to get all the possible information. I'm located in Canada, if that relates to any location specific apps.
Thanks
EDIT: Found some tutorials and threads, thanks
I did unlock the bootloader and I'm rooted, no ROM. I to got tired of flashing and making back ups and redoing my home screen multiple time a week if not every day. That's fun for awhile. But for me all the Roms are all the same for the exception of a few things. My phone runs great and I do get very good battery life. I can understand why some do it but I think android is at that point to where it does and have everything I want. I'm even thinking about unrooting my phone. Haven't needed any thing that requires root yet. I did have the display app for awhile for my screen but I've not used it that much and have not noticed that my screen is slightly yellow. My flickster app won't work when I'm rooted so I think I might unroot it.
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I stayed unrooted for 8 days which is actually a record with any Android device. I liked stock and had no problems with it, but there were just a few features in Cyanogen that I love that aren't available in stock. And they're actually small things such as the volume toggles and the percentage number for battery. But they were worth it. So far my Cyanogen experience has been just as smooth as stock, so there really haven't been any drawbacks. I'm also using the Faux kernel which seems to have improved the wakelock problem the device was having on the stock kernel. I was able to get somewhere around 20 hours of battery life yesterday when I was getting around 12 on the stock kernel. I still haven't calibrated the display to my likings yet, but I'll get to that. Needless to say, I'm really enjoying having a Nexus 4.
I liked rooting my vivid because sense sucked, but I went with a aosp ROM and was very happy. Though, what I like more is messing with new software updates (official) and not being rooted just makes that easier to download. There's nothing I miss from rooting. Everything I did was to make the phone as smooth running as possible and that's what I got now.
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Not rooted. The entire reason I rooted my old GS2 was to get AOSP on it. This has it in its purest, best form stock.
I root because I want to block ads, use titanium backup, Franco Kernel, AOKP (I have my menu and search button back plus the nav bar ring has more options than just google now). I use TWRP for backups in case I mash my phone and Google doesn't have images up yet... I can at least restore mine LOL. I use lots of tasker tasks with root. Use Datasync to auto backup and restore games and other app data on each device (not just when flashing ROMs. I mean I play a game and put down phone pickup tablet and data is already synced on there.). There's just so many things to do with it!
I will eventually, and most likely roll to CM, but until that time I just have no need for it.
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http://mobilesyrup.com/2013/05/27/i-think-im-done-hacking-my-smartphones/
Skins were horrible, but I'm really liking what OEMs are doing now, this article literally took the words out of my mouth.
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From time to time you might feel like that. But it does not mean that you can't tamper with a phone, especially a nexus one.
Yes if I would buy an s4 the only thing that I would is root it just for the sake of TB.
But with the nexus you can do anything and is super easy to return to where you were.
And no counter or avoiding warranty by unlocking the bootloader you just need 3 words to lock or unlock it and of course a backup
I don't say you have to become a crack flasher but trying mods and roms will make you have a better perspective and even convince you that stock is better.
Anyway, everything is up to you.
You can always leave it at stock and wait for that much desired OTA.
Cheers mate
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I only flash custom ROM's and Kernels for performance, not so much additional features or looks.
No, I don't feel like this because I own a nexus device.
Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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Oh, ok. I've been using root explorer to delete system apps for so long I forgot TB could do it too.
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Ice Cream Sandwich was the end of custom ROMs on the phone for me. I have CM on my N7, however, I feel it runs better. I always buy a phone and make it make me flash something else. Since the Galaxy Nexus, I have had no need to do this.
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Kinda off topic question: what does everyone need titanium backup for? I always see people saying "the only reason I root is for TB", but why would you need to backup your apps if your not flashing Roms?
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Agreed, it's circular logic. Especially now that game stats/etc will be saved so you can pick your phone or tablet up and still be at the same spot in the game.
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You can uninstall or freeze system apps with tb.
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You can disable system apps with the OS since ICS, too.
I love Flashing Hacking Modding all the good things that goes with owning a Nexus.. :good::good::good: But I don't go over the top... See my banner
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Ice Cream Sandwich was the end of custom ROMs on the phone for me. I have CM on my N7, however, I feel it runs better.
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Agreed, Android has been closing the gap, if my current ROM/source wasn't available I'd happily rock stock.
I bought a nexus 4 because I love hacking, customizing and bricking my phone and all this stuff, I love it, no regrets, I dont want to go back to touchwiz and timescape...
If stock android had customizable notification toggles built-in I'd probably stay 100% stock. And yes I know there's apps on the market but Ive tried them & didn't like.
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This is why I own a Nexus 4.
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There’s a reason that the HTC One benchmarks lower on CM10.1, despite running Android 4.2.2, than it does on Sense 5.0, which runs Android 4.1.2
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I used to feel like this. Back when I had a g2x I flashed because I HAD to frequently. Every ROM would inevitably become unstable and I would find myself looking for a new ROM to flash. Annoying as hell really. My n4 is rooted stock 4.2.2 w/ franco kernel for help with battery drain. I truly yearn for the day that I don't have to do anything to a phone. Not even root. Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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I don't feel like I need to install a custom rom with this device. Tweaking it with a few mods gets me what I need. I still don't get why some refuse to mod the phone because they want to get the next ota update. Once it is released, all one has to do is flash a rooted version that should appear here within 24 hours.
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If stock android had customizable notification toggles built-in I'd probably stay 100% stock. And yes I know there's apps on the market but Ive tried them & didn't like.
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This and I want Google to give the option to unlink the bloody notification and call volume. I also want brightness slider in the notification or quick settings, dont understand why no one apart from Samsung considers the importance of the slider.
Oh and did I say battery percentage? While it's not exactly a deal breaker but still does not make any sense why stock android doesn't have it.
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I used to feel like this. Back when I had a g2x I flashed because I HAD to frequently. Every ROM would inevitably become unstable and I would find myself looking for a new ROM to flash. Annoying as hell really. My n4 is rooted stock 4.2.2 w/ franco kernel for help with battery drain. I truly yearn for the day that I don't have to do anything to a phone. Not even root. Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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Oh man! A former G2x user... that also lives in Central NJ. Remember when we were waiting for the O2x ICS update? No HW acceleration or anything, it sucked.
I don't flash nearly as often as I used to like I did with my G2x. I stick with ROMs for much longer now. I'm happy with CM10.1
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...Will the nexus line eventually come pre-rooted as well as unlocked? A man can dream can't he?
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I don't understand why it doesn't come pre-rooted. Just like enabling the Developer options, there should be some method needed to enable root, aside from the whole custom recovery custom root solution thing. Normal users aren't exposed directly to root, and power users who need root, can easily enable it. And... new users can root too without the need of those toolkits :good:
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I don't understand why it doesn't come pre-rooted.
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Because it's a giant security hole..
Honestly for me personally, the stock MDL ROM with some tweaks/KT-SGS4 Kernel/mods is freakn smooooothh as heck! I see no need for a custom ROM... yet! So far I'm loving this phone and I've only had it for a day, can;t wait for that next update hopefully we get it soon to fix some stuff. Other than that, this thing is smooth as butter!
I haven't even rooted mine yet and it's been over a week. I usually root the first day or two.
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I kinda agree... Except there are some cool root apps... And I wanted to uninstall a bunch of bloat apps.
That's why I went with team Sonic's freegs4.... It just like stock with some basic tweaks and some apps are uninstallable.
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I will agree that this phone offers the best stock experience I've ever had. If you're a tweaker like me though, custom ROM's are a must. I hightly recommend Blu Kuban. AOSP ROM's are also quite enjoyable, especially with Halo.
Also, man I wish the Hyperdrive ROM that's out for the Verizon variant would make its way to us. That ROM looks amazing.
Dont U Wanna Get Rid Of The Boatwear? And Have a Longer Last Battery? And More Faster Phone? Thats All In Root And Roms My Friend
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You think you got something smooth, run a custom rom with the tweaks, you will not go stock again. It is up you. You can always go back to stock, run WanamLite, Basically stock with the tweaks, super fast, and just as stable. Sorry, but you are missing out.
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You think you got something smooth, run a custom rom with the tweaks, you will not go stock again. It is up you. You can always go back to stock, run WanamLite, Basically stock with the tweaks, super fast, and just as stable. Sorry, but you are missing out.
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WanamLite Rom? For Sprint S4? Where Is That at?
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Son Rise said:
WanamLite Rom? For Sprint S4? Where Is That at?
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It's not a Sprint rom. It's am international rom. I'm guessing he used the app trick.
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Yeah stock on the phone lagged pretty bad. Team sonics ROM fixed that up .
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You're all fricken crazy. Lol. Why run a custom ROM? Get rid of bloatware, get rid of a lot of lag, use custom PRL's when Sprint's amazing service does what it does, enhance the experience, increase the terrible battery life, install AOSP, etc... But that's just me.
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Delakit said:
You're all fricken crazy. Lol. Why run a custom ROM? Get rid of bloatware, get rid of a lot of lag, use custom PRL's when Sprint's amazing service does what it does, enhance the experience, increase the terrible battery life, install AOSP, etc... But that's just me.
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YOU'RE the crazy one IMO!! Why run an AOSP ROM and get rid of all the features that make the S4.... the S4 lol.
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YOU'RE the crazy one IMO!! Why run an AOSP ROM and get rid of all the features that make the S4.... the S4 lol.
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Lol, some of us bought it for the hardware - I think the whole eye watching thing is gimmick, and the pedometer is consistently off. AOSP really delivers in terms of speed and customization, which many desire. Speed + Customization > Gimmicks.
I'd also like to add that I'm still running stock so....
+1 stock. I like gimmicks
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TouchWiz features + AOSP Feel= Win haha I'm sure we aren't too far away from that
Every person commenting in this thread I think is why we all belong to XDA Developers. Do what you will with your device and enjoy it, we have many options available to us, thanks to all the great developers here. It personally took me a month to root my phone. And right now I can't really imagine having a AOSP ROM on it.
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Absolutely no ASOP for me and definitely no CM but that's just me. If I were buying strictly for the hardware, I might very well have gone a different route. I bought for the hardware and the software.
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Every person commenting in this thread I think is why we all belong to XDA Developers. Do what you will with your device and enjoy it, we have many options available to us, thanks to all the great developers here.
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Let's all hug. :highfive:
Just like life you can live life the way it is or tweak it and make it your own life the way u want with the options available.
can i root after i get my SG4 flashed from US Cellular to Criket without messing up the flash.
Also Can i install custom Roms after i get my SG4 flashed to criket without messing up the flash.
once im flashed and running on criket i am too scared to mess it up
please let me know hwat i should do. i can't even find someone that can flash it yet. its very hard
im very sad i love this phone.
Cm/aosp is always smoother since there is no bloat, compare 1.5GB for stock rooted to 300mbs for an aosp based ROM. But the features are gone. And the camera isn't as good.
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From the people who have tried multiple roms. What is considered the best performing with minimum issues TW ROM to flash?
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POPROCKS
I can't say which is the best because it might start a flame war but I have used PopRocks and Dynamic Pop, highly recommend both of them. If you still have any doubt check the features list and see which one fits you better.
Those are 5.0.1 roms are there any 5.1.1 roms worth mentioning?
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I'm LOVING TEKXodus 4.3 (It is a 5.1.1 ROM) on my 910T3 with beastmode 1.1 kernel.
Battery life is phenominal, speed is incredible, stable, just overall sweet.
Combine that ROM with Multi Window Commander (well worth the $1.50) and Xposed App Settings module for app specific DPI settings and I am just in love... (not a fan of global DPI changes in the build.prop. Too much hassle getting stock apps to play nicely, easier to just change them on a per app basis)
Currently using overdrive. Really liking it. Just would like the recent button button back.
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