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Ad sponsered free apps increasing, Any type of firewall?

Well been doing alot of study lately and it seems ALOT of apps on the market that are full versions and are "free" seem to have ad sponsored elements in them. Sending your GPS data to whoever or other various things. Now while if the dev mentions on the description that their "Paid" version is ad free. Least its up front and honest about it. However alot of Apps I found out hide this info it seems. Is this going to be the new "Kazaa" on the G1? Back when Kazaa came out, is when the influx of "Spyware" was increasing. Im worried is this happening to the G1 now? While I can understand devs choosing this to make their app free and gain from it a lil. Whats to say other devs wont use this for other intentions that may have some negative impact?
Just wondering tho.. for modded G1s. Is there some sorta firewall app or so yet that might be useful? Anyways just thought I would post for discussion case I am worried over nothing.

Install AdFree from the Market.

Cool ill try that. Still tho some discussion would be good. Cause I don't know if this should be something to start getting concerned on. Apps running in background draining battery, and reporting info possibly and so. Or am I getting concerned over nothing?

Mysticales said:
Cool ill try that. Still tho some discussion would be good. Cause I don't know if this should be something to start getting concerned on. Apps running in background draining battery, and reporting info possibly and so. Or am I getting concerned over nothing?
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A little paranoia is a healthy thing, too much is bad, but these ads collect all sorts of location information to profile you and provide relevent advertising, but who knows what else happens with the data etc etc etc
PS you need root access on your phone to use AdFree

Yea Im fully rooted, No worries there. =) Thanks for this heads up. I use host files as well on my PC.. since then never had a issue with spyware again. Any news on if he would let us update the host file ourselves? Id love to use the file I have on my PC. Heh.
Anyways as for discussion goes. Can these ads know your G1 email, or linked email account? Next off, is there a ability that these ads could read your personal data as text msgs, contacts (to spam phone calls) or anything like that? Android being a new OS.. not sure what devs and ads can do with access to a phone. Its like a new gateway has been opened.
Kinda wish a dev could comment if the G1 would even have this ability and if it could be a bad thing.
Edit: Good question, this Ad Free, is it like if you add a hosts file in a router? Like if I use the G1 to tether, is it blocking the ad banners even on tethered connections? Would be interesting to know for sure since imagine a built in firewall that protects tethered PCs too.

Mysticales said:
Yea Im fully rooted, No worries there. =) Thanks for this heads up. I use host files as well on my PC.. since then never had a issue with spyware again. Any news on if he would let us update the host file ourselves? Id love to use the file I have on my PC. Heh.
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You can use your own hosts file on your own phone, AdFree just automates the process, if you look at this thread it started off describing how to do things manually.
Anyways as for discussion goes. Can these ads know your G1 email, or linked email account?
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Possibly, I haven't looked into accessing the google credentials from the android APIs so I don't know for certain, might be a private API google only shares with it's own apps, that doesn't mean someone won't figure out how to access them however.
Next off, is there a ability that these ads could read your personal data as text msgs, contacts (to spam phone calls) or anything like that? Android being a new OS..
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When you install an app there is a screen displayed of the permissions the apps ask for, read/write contacts, calendars etc will all be displayed, you should be able to see the permissions an app will have access to after it's installed as well from memory.
not sure what devs and ads can do with access to a phone. Its like a new gateway has been opened.
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You should be more worried what google will do with all the info it collects to be honest, but that's another issue altogether.
Kinda wish a dev could comment if the G1 would even have this ability and if it could be a bad thing.
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You are prompted during install as to what the app will be able to access, google leaves it up to you to accept it or not.
Edit: Good question, this Ad Free, is it like if you add a hosts file in a router? Like if I use the G1 to tether, is it blocking the ad banners even on tethered connections? Would be interesting to know for sure since imagine a built in firewall that protects tethered PCs too.
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Depends how the tethered setup gets DNS info, if it uses the information from the hosts file then yes, but this is dependent on what the tether setup does.

Mysticales said:
Its like a new gateway has been opened.
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Only if you never bothered reading the permissions requests when installing an app. They clearly describe what permissions an app wants to use and you can cancel the installation if you feel you don't want to give an app the right to access your personal info. So if you install a game that says it wants access to your Google Account info (which would include your email and thus all your associated google services) then you have only yourself to blame if the dev sends you a ton of spam or sells your email address.
Bottom line is read the permissions requested carefully and decide whether you trust the company/entity that created the app before installing it. Also, i'd be very wary installing any root apps, since root apps by their very nature can operate outside of dalvik sandbox and do practically anything they want to your system. I'm only running two root apps right now: Market Enabler and Wifi Tether. They are both open source.

Well of course I read the permissions thing. However still I would still wonder about things.

Mysticales said:
Well of course I read the permissions thing. However still I would still wonder about things.
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Google actually closed up some of the loop holes that apps were using on Android 1.0/1.1 to enable wifi etc.

jashsu said:
They are both open source.
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Unless you audit the code and compile it yourself, you have no idea what the binary is actually doing.

Location data is only used for serving the right banners and calculate the profits the banner view/click has depending on the location (country) of the viewer.
Its not anything malicious and you can easily see the permissions when installing.
People all like free apps instead of paying a few dollars, but when an ad is added people try to get rid of it... Havent you all ever wondered why the ads are there? Just like on a forum as the one you are on right now? Right they generate at least a little bit of money for a dev that doesnt want to charge the users directly by letting them pay, but spends almost all his free time to keep apps updated, write new once and answering questions.
As soon as there is virtually no way too make money on a market, the market will die as developers/companies will move over to an other platform of development.

delta_foxtrot2 said:
Unless you audit the code and compile it yourself, you have no idea what the binary is actually doing.
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It's not difficult to get the code from svn and compile it. Pretty effortless.

rogro82 said:
As soon as there is virtually no way too make money on a market, the market will die as developers/companies will move over to an other platform of development.
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Many people don't like to view ads on their computers, let alone their mobile phone. Thus if people can block the ads easily, they will. Content producers and software developers will simply have to find a new business model to pursue. Maybe that's a free/premium differentiation model or maybe its microtransactions. That or they will have to deal with a percentage of their userbase blocking ads.

Well I am sure most devs Block ads too, either on their mobile or pc.. no one wants any type of issue.
Now again, I said I understand why they are there for free apps. Its just that as a user myself.. I like to know Im protected from potential hazards. Also alot of devs like to make something hot to use on later resumes and projects. Ive worked with alot of devs in my time start with nothing and grow to get bigger jobs in RL cause of the project. =)

jashsu said:
It's not difficult to get the code from svn and compile it. Pretty effortless.
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I didn't say it was hard to get or compile it, but auditing the code to make sure nothing malicious is going on can be very difficult at times. There is a code obfustication competition each year and it's extrodinary what some can do and you'd never know unless it was pointed out to you.

Mysticales said:
Well I am sure most devs Block ads too, either on their mobile or pc.. no one wants any type of issue.
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It's not just "issues" too many ads tick a certain segment of the population off to the point that they go to these lengths to get rid of them.
This is of course before you factor in this segment of the population are usually the least to click on ads, usually for ethical/moral reasons, so them getting rid of ads is usually no big loss.
Last time I checked AdFree was downloaded less than 5,000 times, now compare this to a speedometer app I made which anyone can run and it's been downloaded over 10,000 times I highly doubt any dev relying on ads will actually loose out by the people that can and are blocking them.

rogro82 said:
Location data is only used for serving the right banners and calculate the profits the banner view/click has depending on the location (country) of the viewer.
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The meta data that can be gleened from this sort of advertising can have all sorts of flow on effects and unintended consequences.
I see the world and potential pitfalls in things differently than others, I don't know why, but the more data collected the worst things can be.
If you are interested in what country they are from/in just pull the country code from the SIM card, why narrow it down to within a few metres?

Well since I have been using Adfree. Let me say this. My G1 seems to be running faster! I dont get as many force close/wait errors. Certain apps like atrackdog for one RUN faster. I mean without the ads running, it seems my apps speed through their task and do what they are supposed to. Kinda interesting note oddly.
Also lets say a app you know would be using GPS to locate you on a map. Thus triggering "Give app permission to use your GPS" which you know why it needs it. But does the app also tell you that it uses the GPS for Ads? So I dont always trust what it says when it comes to permissions as it doesnt mean in the underline that its not using the same permission to do other things. Would be nice if the G1 had a notice that the app uses Ad support.

Linux is a wonderful and powerful operating system that can do just about anything you can possibly dream of.
First, the hosts file hack is a piece of crap since all it does is it points potentially malicious domain names back to self. It doesn't take into account connections that are ip address based... those will still go through and there is nothing that can be put in the hosts file to stop that.
iptables on the other hand.... included in 1.0 and 1.1, and several custom 1.5's, can do many strong things; block by ip address (including if it tries to lookup by dns), block by port, *BLOCK BY USER ID*.
The latter is particularly interesting since each program installed on android is assigned its own userid. That means that with the correct iptables rule, you can block all network traffic for THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM. Or you can blacklist/whitelist servers for that program, etc.
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/block...ingle-user-from-my-server-using-iptables.html
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux...ng-access-to-selectedspecific-ip-address.html
For example, when I issue this command:
iptables -A OUTPUT -o tiwlan0 -m owner --uid-owner 10017 -j DROP
My browser is no longer able to connect (since it is uid=10017) using wifi (tiwlan0 is wifi). Note: leave out the entire "-o tiwlan0" argument and it should block all outgoing on all devices for that userid.
To find the userid for a particular program, do "ls -l /data/data/program'sdatadirectory"

So on JF 1.51 is this ability already there? Yea I know Linux is great for iptables. Always is, even in routers hehe.
If its not in there already, Debian, how well does that work on the G1?

Aloqa.... YES Aloqa NOT Aloha

Very sweet app, will do battle with Sherpa.
Similar app to Sherpa, BUT has Facbook intergrated!! Very nice UI and icons look awsome!!
Aloqa is a mobile service that proactively notifies you of interesting places, events, and Facebook friends near you. Instead of having to search, you can just look at your phone and see your favorite hotspots, friends, events of interest, and recommended bargains close by. Whenever You Want. Wherever You Are
VOTE FOR ALOQA "Best Location Based App": http://androidnetworkawards.com/
Link to office site:
http://www.aloqa.com/
Criket:
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.aloqa.me.client_modules.android
and of course it can found on the Market
or
Here:

Yeah.. played around with it today so far. Its a pretty bad ass app!
Thanks for the heads up

I like sherpa better Aloqa looks too iphone-ish to me.

alritewhadeva said:
I like sherpa better Aloqa looks too iphone-ish to me.
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I always find it funny how people won't like an app because its or looks "iphoneish"... I could care less as long as its functional and does what I need and does it well who cares what it looks like, then again you do

Lakers3408 said:
I always find it funny how people won't like an app because its or looks "iphoneish"... I could care less as long as its functional and does what I need and does it well who cares what it looks like, then again you do
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Lol just personal opinion

Interesting read from Business Jounral:
Mobile search and information startup Aloqa GmbH and named Sanjeev Agrawal as its CEO.
Agrawal was previously global head of product marketing at Google Inc. and later vice president for products at TellMe Networks Inc., which was acquired by Microsoft Corp.
Aloqa said the funding came from Wellington Partners Venture Capital and angel investors. The company is based in Munich, Germany, and has its U.S. headquarters in Palo Alto.
The company has released a beta of its application for handsets that use Google's Android operating system. Users automatically get information on their mobile device about friends, events and local offers based on their location without having to launch a browser or search application.
"What appealed to us about Aloqa is its proprietary technology for tracking billions of moving and static objects without draining mobile handset batteries, without jamming cellular networks with extra data, and without creating user privacy concerns," said Ram Srinivasan, managing partner of Wellington's Palo Alto office. "The mobile app springs into action only when two or more objects come meaningfully close to each other."
So its safe to say that we should expect great things to come from Aloqa. I hope

Aloqa seems to focus on providing notifications to things around you in a new way while Sherpa seems to want to learn where like to go and what you like to do in a new way. Both are location suggetion apps. They both have their shortfalls early on. It will be interesting to see how these two mature.

I just Downloaded this app, and it's taking FOREVER to configure...should I just stick with Google Place Directory/Sherpa?

Personally I really like the app. You can add and remove things from it and its really slick. I like how it shows things in button format opposed to having things all over the place.

shotad said:
I just Downloaded this app, and it's taking FOREVER to configure...should I just stick with Google Place Directory/Sherpa?
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Whats taking you forever to do? Just start it and pick what you want. I had it up and running in less than 30seconds. Of course if you want to add and remove channels that takes a few minutes, but I left everything in a default state.

underamoon said:
Aloqa seems to focus on providing notifications to things around you in a new way while Sherpa seems to want to learn where like to go and what you like to do in a new way. Both are location suggetion apps. They both have their shortfalls early on. It will be interesting to see how these two mature.
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Very true, it will be interesting to see if Aloqa jumps on the "Adaptive Learning" aspect of what makes Sherpa unique. After all Aloqa is only a beta version.

kizer said:
Whats taking you forever to do? Just start it and pick what you want. I had it up and running in less than 30seconds. Of course if you want to add and remove channels that takes a few minutes, but I left everything in a default state.
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i started it, picked up my location, and now it's stuck in "Thank you. We are now configuring Aloqa for you. 'Found your location. Connecting...'". and its just stuck there...

kizer said:
Personally I really like the app. You can add and remove things from it and its really slick. I like how it shows things in button format opposed to having things all over the place.
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Exactly I really like it as well, if I would rate Aloqa vs. Sherpa on a scale of 1 to 10
Aloqa = 8
Sherpa = 6
You can customize it to what your into, for example
If you hate burger king, remove it. If you love Coffee add it.
By default a McDonalds tab shows, I removed it and added the FastFood tab which includeds McDonalds and others (KFC, BK, PizzaHut, Subway, Wendy's, Taco Bell, Carls and In-n-Out)
Even has a weather tab (pretty cool)

shotad said:
i started it, picked up my location, and now it's stuck in "Thank you. We are now configuring Aloqa for you. 'Found your location. Connecting...'". and its just stuck there...
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If on 2g or 3g it will take a LOOOOOONG time.... I switched to wifi and it connected in a matter of seconds!
Use wifi for the initial set-up after that use 2g 3g 6g or what ever it will work without a problem.

Lakers3408 said:
If on 2g or 3g it will take a LOOOOOONG time.... I switched to wifi and it connected in a matter of seconds!
Use wifi for the initial set-up after that use 2g 3g 6g or what ever it will work without a problem.
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ok, so I should just wait ntil I get home and set this up...cuz this is ridiculous...still configuring!

Lakers3408 said:
If on 2g or 3g it will take a LOOOOOONG time.... I switched to wifi and it connected in a matter of seconds!
Use wifi for the initial set-up after that use 2g 3g 6g or what ever it will work without a problem.
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you know, i've been having some hard time connecting to my WiFi, it does connect, but I get NO signal...i'm running Cyanogen ROM, did the fix_permissions and did not fix, wiped and did not fix this problem...anythign else i'm missing?

great app i will use both sherpa and aloqa. aloqa on wifi took about 2.343 seconds to setup. thanks again for this recommendation as i wouldve never know about either apps

How to set-up Facebook app thru Aloqa
After you register your Aloqa app, you need to complete the Facebook part of the registration here:
http://buzz.aloqa.com/AloqaBuzz-war/welcomeGWT.html
Sign in to your Facebook account from the website then click on Activate.

Are you in some way associated with this app. Just a curious question since it seems that you have gone above and beyond normal fanboyism in your thread regarding this app. No offense intended here, just curious Personally I find that Sherpa misses a lot of places, and while Places Directory seems to get the places that Sherpa misses, it also seems to miss quite a few places too... (often the places that Sherpa gets ) So if this new app can combine the two in terms of what it finds.... that would be great. Will see what happens

I think this is much better than Sherpa...though I believe with Sherpa...it will remember what you search...but who really searches for ATM's and Starbucks and forget?

[HOWTO]Work Music On Ouya

Let's get started!
What you're going to need!(IMPORTANT!)
1. SU
2. Busy Box
3. A Way To Side Load
4. Knowledge Of Permission Setting
& Root Permissions
5. Root Explorer
If you're familiar with setting permissions via. Root Explorer that's a plus!
I'm sorry, but as I don't get on the computer much. I can't provide permissions to set and I'll tell you the usual.
Everything here can be found with a simple Google search.
Are you a noob?
Well, I can tell you that this procedure is very easy and something easy to remember.
Google a search on; "What Permissions To Set On Root Explorer In System" or something among those lines, as we will need to install .apk's that way!
Assuming you understand what to do, let's figure out what player you'd like to use.
I, being one to have large libraries of music tend to use PlayerPro, I recommend Google Music/Google Play Music.
Let's pull more strings! Pull the app off the net or if you own the app, extract it onto a side load app you trust.
Once done, proceed to Root Explorer with knowing you have the app on the Ouya itself, once you see it use the Copy Paste method and place it in the System Apps(can be easily found from Main Directory), once you've established this, now is where permission settings come into play.
You should be able to remotely click the bottom "..." Using the D-Pad or the Touch Pad. This is where Copy And Paste should be.
If you've gotten through this and everything is set up proper, the next step is to reboot the console itself, do a full reboot to prevent any confusion and risk not seeing/having the player working.
If you've done this correctly, once you go to view your apps, you should see your app installed and ready to go.
NOTE: And yes, I mean note! Do not try this with the side load procedure and expect it to work, people have attempted this and either 1. See force closes, 2. The app is not loading, 3. The app is there but will not open and doesn't truly seem to be installed.
SIDE NOTE: This can be done with both ADB and my procedure.
If this was useful to you, I can only ask of a favor!
Check out my YouTube channel!
http://WWW.YouTube.com/user/TheDarkRosary
Subscribe if you will!

You also need googleloginservice.apk and googleservicesframework.apk otherwise you cannot sign into your google account to sync your library.
This has also been posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291320
Also i would have classed this thread as general and not development.

MODS This just clickbait SPAM BS.
The title is vague on purpose, and the thread is basically saying "Hey bro, if you want a music app on your Ouya, just sideload that ****! OH WOW!"
However, like dully79 said, the only main reason to use the official Google Music app is to use the Google Music service and stream your library from the cloud. However, this is impossible without Google Services, which is not present in the stock Ouya ROM and isn't in any 3rd party ROM out yet, either. So basically, you can't do what he says you can do by doing what he says to do.
This is clearly intended to get people to try and go to his stupid YouTube channel, which he links to at the end.
How about you get traffic and views by having good content on your channel, instead of polluting this forum with useless bull****?

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MODS This just clickbait SPAM BS.
The title is vague on purpose, and the thread is basically saying "Hey bro, if you want a music app on your Ouya, just sideload that ****! OH WOW!"
However, like dully79 said, the only main reason to use the official Google Music app is to use the Google Music service and stream your library from the cloud. However, this is impossible without Google Services, which is not present in the stock Ouya ROM and isn't in any 3rd party ROM out yet, either. So basically, you can't do what he says you can do by doing what he says to do.
This is clearly intended to get people to try and go to his stupid YouTube channel, which he links to at the end.
How about you get traffic and views by having good content on your channel, instead of polluting this forum with useless bull****?
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Please be respectful of my threads.
No, I do not have my channel setup at the end to spam boards, it's just a simple thanks if you enjoyed my tutorial.
I don't intend to spam people, nor do I try and grab traffic.
I am simply trying to help others understand a method, if you disagree, I'd be more than happy to remove my channel link with a simple request, and also a request that you not bash my threads as I'm only here for assistance and spend my time happily making ROMs and doing other things.
I will not criticize you unless you doing do the same, it's disrespectful to me that you try and hurt my progress and tuts I post as users may not know how.
If I were simply begging for something I'd spend my time in General Forums where people generally go to do that sort of thing.
Lastly, if you've got nothing nice to say, don't say it and just avoid wasting your time coming through a place where people go to help, not get help with a channel.
I'm disappointed to know that someone would go as far as to make a whole post bashing on what I do to help the community, and I will have this brought to the mods and discussed with them in order to better our area without someone posting the same in all threads.
My last words are, thank you for those of you who actually know I try to help and who simply understand that if I were to spam you'd seed traffic from my post everywhere. I love you all, and appreciate you not going this far to bash me.

DivinityCycle said:
MODS This just clickbait SPAM BS.
The title is vague on purpose, and the thread is basically saying "Hey bro, if you want a music app on your Ouya, just sideload that ****! OH WOW!"
However, like dully79 said, the only main reason to use the official Google Music app is to use the Google Music service and stream your library from the cloud. However, this is impossible without Google Services, which is not present in the stock Ouya ROM and isn't in any 3rd party ROM out yet, either. So basically, you can't do what he says you can do by doing what he says to do.
This is clearly intended to get people to try and go to his stupid YouTube channel, which he links to at the end.
How about you get traffic and views by having good content on your channel, instead of polluting this forum with useless bull****?
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To leave my feedback on a clearer note. YES! Yes you can listen to music from a storage device as long as the device is read as a USB Mount! This has been confirmed by others in the official Ouya Forums!
Google Play Music is for cloud streaming. And for any other read device!

dully79 said:
You also need googleloginservice.apk and googleservicesframework.apk otherwise you cannot sign into your google account to sync your library.
This has also been posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291320
Also i would have classed this thread as general and not development.
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Oops, my bad man, all credit goes to you if I took your method.
People cry a out signatures, there's no need for one! I love my community and will stand up for it!

This thread was your fourth post on XDA, at least on that account.
It is not actually a Development post and contains basically nothing that anyone in the Dev section wouldn't already know ("Hey bro, if you want to put an app onto your system you can copy & paste it into /system/apps! This makes it a system app! Oh wow!")
Then you link to your YouTube channel and ask people to go to it.
All of these things together made you seem like a SPAMmer. If you're not, sorry about that, but your post is still in the wrong forum and doesn't actual contain useful or new information. The fact that a much better thread explaining how to do what you posted about exists (in the correct forum no less) is just icing on the cake.

DivinityCycle said:
This thread was your fourth post on XDA, at least on that account.
It is not actually a Development post and contains basically nothing that anyone in the Dev section wouldn't already know ("Hey bro, if you want to put an app onto your system you can copy & paste it into /system/apps! This makes it a system app! Oh wow!")
Then you link to your YouTube channel and ask people to go to it.
All of these things together made you seem like a SPAMmer. If you're not, sorry about that, but your post is still in the wrong forum and doesn't actual contain useful or new information. The fact that a much better thread explaining how to do what you posted about exists (in the correct forum no less) is just icing on the cake.
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That's fine, I just didn't want you to take me as a spammer, I didn't intend to.
I didn't know where to post this at that.
I've got multiple things done that people are still asking about and I was just trying to knock this one out of the way.
People cry about signatures, there's no need for one! I love my community and will stand up for it!

[Q] way to analyze app to see if it is malicious)?

I want to download and install the IP Webcam app from the Play store. Even though it has over 5 million installs, how would I be able to tell that it wasn't doing something malicious like allowing backdoor entry to my network or transmitting snapshots back to the developer or someone else? If I want to use it as a security camera...how can I be sure that it is not doing something behind the scenes?

newtodevelopment said:
I want to download and install the IP Webcam app from the Play store. Even though it has over 5 million installs, how would I be able to tell that it wasn't doing something malicious like allowing backdoor entry to my network or transmitting snapshots back to the developer or someone else? If I want to use it as a security camera...how can I be sure that it is not doing something behind the scenes?
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Try: http://sanddroid.xjtu.edu.cn/#home or https://anubis.iseclab.org/ both will run the app in a sandbox and monitor what it does. It may take them a few hours to return an answer so you might have to be a little bit patient.

justmpm said:
Try: http://sanddroid.xjtu.edu.cn/#home or https://anubis.iseclab.org/ both will run the app in a sandbox and monitor what it does. It may take them a few hours to return an answer so you might have to be a little bit patient.
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Thanks for the links . It helps a lot

Subsonic Integration

Anyone know of a way to get Google Home to play music from my local Subsonic server? I've searched for a few months and not been able to come up with anything. Any help or suggestions would be greatly welcomed!

Short answer: nothing exists at the moment.
I just started working on an integration project using google actions + dialogflow + a php script + a plain subsonic installation.
By now I'm able to ask for a song by its title and artist, make a search on subsonic, make google home speech the song name and stream it.
It's very far from being something easy to setup and use, but if you're interested and want to get your hand dirty on some unfinished code, I can set up some instructions.

I'd be interested to see what you've done, even if it's rough. Can you put it on github, by chance?
Thanks!
Mark

ShinikVeech said:
I'd be interested to see what you've done, even if it's rough. Can you put it on github, by chance?
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Here we go: https://github.com/ctrlaltca/google-home-subsonic

This looks awesome! Thanks a lot!
Mark

@ctrlaltca I set everything up (and even went so far as to set up ssl with letsencrypt, in case that was my issue) but after the welcome message, I am not getting very far.
Is there supposed to be anything set in the Responses section of the make_query intent? It seems that when that is blank, I get a "MalformedResponse: 'final_response' must be set." from the simulator and the integration crashes.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks for all that you have done! This looks great so far.
Mark
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Sorry; one more thing. I am not seeing any traffic on my webserver, so I have a feeling I might be missing something on the fulfillment configuration.
Thanks again!
Mark

ShinikVeech said:
Is there supposed to be anything set in the Responses section of the make_query intent? It seems that when that is blank, I get a "MalformedResponse: 'final_response' must be set." from the simulator and the integration crashes.
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The make_query intent should have no response set, but have the "Set this intent as end of the conversation" flag enabled.
Anyway, that error you receive is just a really developer-unfriendly way for the google server to tell you that it didn't receive a valid response from your server.
ShinikVeech said:
Sorry; one more thing. I am not seeing any traffic on my webserver, so I have a feeling I might be missing something on the fulfillment configuration.
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This can be a valid symptom of problems.
I'd first check if the php script is able to query the subsonic server; here's a short writeup: https://github.com/ctrlaltca/google-home-subsonic/wiki/Test-invocation
Once that is confirmed to work, try to open the full url to index.php using a browser and ensure it replies correctly with something like
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{"source":"subsonic","fulfillmentText":"Problema nella richiesta: nessuna azione"}
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Once you have the full url to index.php, enable the "Webhook" switch in the Fulfillment page and insert that url as the Fulfillment Webhook URL; if i remember correctly, a valid https certificate is needed (you should be fine with letsencrypt, i'm using it, too).

Scratch that; I had some intermediate cert issues that I have now resolved. Looks good, thanks!
By the way, I've added English translation and I'm making some tweaks here: https://github.com/mavenius/google-home-subsonic

Glad to know you got it to work!
I had a look at your commits, I've tried using search3 in the past but found out it to be more confusing when searching big libraries, as it tends to mix up artist and song names.
Eg. if i want to play "like a rolling stone" by Bob Dylan, sometimes i get a random song from the "Rolling Stones" band or a song from an album called "Rolling Stone Magazine's 500 Greatest Songs Of All Time".
But i have to admin that sometimes it's easier to just search on all fields.. maybe a different intent can be added.

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I had a look at your commits, I've tried using search3 in the past but found out it to be more confusing when searching big libraries, as it tends to mix up artist and song names.
Eg. if i want to play "like a rolling stone" by Bob Dylan, sometimes i get a random song from the "Rolling Stones" band or a song from an album called "Rolling Stone Magazine's 500 Greatest Songs Of All Time".
But i have to admin that sometimes it's easier to just search on all fields.. maybe a different intent can be added.
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Yeah, I'm going back and forth on that. I think I'm going to add intents for some other use cases (shuffle {artist}, e.g.) but I'm still deciding how I want to do that.
Thanks again for putting this together!
Mark

ShinikVeech said:
Yeah, I'm going back and forth on that. I think I'm going to add intents for some other use cases (shuffle {artist}, e.g.) but I'm still deciding how I want to do that.
Thanks again for putting this together!
Mark
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Have you made any progress in the last few months? This sounds like an interesting idea.