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I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J
ejason said:
I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J
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PwnMyMoto and jcase's methods are for locked bootloaders. You first need to unlock your bootloader. Then you need to decide if you want to take the OTA to 4.4 or not because once you upgrade to 4.2.2 post-camera, you can never downgrade to 4.2.2 pre-camera without bricking your device.
If you want to upgrade to 4.4, here are the instructions to unlock and gain root:
[STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTIONS] Unlocking and Rooting a Dev Ed Moto X Running Kit Kat
I have read of others who kept the 4.2.2 bootloader and other partitions and just selectively flashed those partitions they wanted as each new upgrade's sbf firmware was released. I don't know what advantages there are to doing that.
ejason said:
I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J
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It's a Developer Edition. Take all the updates available (4.2.2 camera update, 4.4 and now 4.4.2). Get the unlock code from Motorola and unlock your bootloader. Once that is done, flash twrp recovery and then install root via twrp.
Very simple on Dev Editions just because you can unlock the bootloader and flash an alternate recovery (twrp, cwm, etc..).
I agree. Unlock your bootloader (Doesn't void warranty on Developer Edition), flash TWRP recovery, then boot to TWRP and install/flash SuperSU. And it doesn't matter what ROM version you're running. (there is a TWRP for 4.2.2 and one for 4.4/4.4.2).
As mentioned, the bootloader included in the android versions can prevent you from downgrading the rom version. (i.e. bootloader in 4.4.2 prevents you from downgrading to any previous ROM). Why would you want to downgrade? If you have a locked bootloader, you'd want to downgrade to be able to use the root processes needed when you have a locked bootloader. But if you have an unlocked bootloader, because you can flash an alternate recovery (not possible with locked bootloader) and root no matter what ROM version you have installed, the only reason to downgrade would be if you encounter a bug you can't deal with that isn't present in the older roms.
because 4.4.2 fixes the exchange and bluetooth issues, and doesn't introduce anything new, its suggested you update to 4.4.2 if you have an unlocked boot loader (4.4.2 isn't rootable on locked bootloaders and may not be, so its recommended that those with locked bootloaders who want to root stick with 4.4).
KidJoe said:
I agree. Unlock your bootloader (Doesn't void warranty on Developer Edition), flash TWRP recovery, then boot to TWRP and install/flash SuperSU. And it doesn't matter what ROM version you're running. (there is a TWRP for 4.2.2 and one for 4.4/4.4.2).
I didn't know there was a different TWRP for 4.2.2.
As mentioned, the bootloader included in the android versions can prevent you from downgrading the rom version. (i.e. bootloader in 4.4.2 prevents you from downgrading to any previous ROM). Why would you want to downgrade? If you have a locked bootloader, you'd want to downgrade to be able to use the root processes needed when you have a locked bootloader. But if you have an unlocked bootloader, because you can flash an alternate recovery (not possible with locked bootloader) and root no matter what ROM version you have installed, the only reason to downgrade would be if you encounter a bug you can't deal with that isn't present in the older roms.
because 4.4.2 fixes the exchange and bluetooth issues, and doesn't introduce anything new, its suggested you update to 4.4.2 if you have an unlocked boot loader (4.4.2 isn't rootable on locked bootloaders and may not be, so its recommended that those with locked bootloaders who want to root stick with 4.4).
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From what i have read 4.4.2 isn't rootable at all. Even if you have an unlocked bootloader. Is that correct?
Great info, thanks.
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
I did something like that for an HTC ONE i have on straight talk. I unlocked the bootloader from the HTC website, then installed TWRP, and then rooted and its running a 4.4.2 ROM that is great.
ejason said:
From what i have read 4.4.2 isn't rootable at all. Even if you have an unlocked bootloader. Is that correct?
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Incorrect. You can do whatever you want with the DE, regardless of what version of Android you're on.
Sent from my Moto X
ejason said:
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
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There are directions on a 1 page pamphlet that came with your VZW DE on how to unlock the bootloader.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
ejason said:
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
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It is all in that step-by-step link I gave you above.
Ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the TWRP.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and CD into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the TWRP with goo manager?
ejason said:
Ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the TWRP.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and CD into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the TWRP with goo manager?
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did it finish flashing? mine says that when i flash a recovery also, but it flashes.
after you flash it dont reboot, just go into recovery (volume down to move the selection, volume up to execute)
then select reboot system, and it will ask if you want to root.
ejason said:
ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the twrp.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and cd into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the twrp with goo manager?
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ok, thanks for everyones hellp. Done and done..
Hey, guys.
I have a Moto X Brazil Retail version.
I unlocked the bootloader, but never installed a custom recovery or rom, I was just curious.
Today, I flashed kitkat 4.4.2 and everything was going fine until I received the notification to update to version to 4.4.3.
After installing the 4.4.3 update, the moto x would just boot up to the flashboot screen, with LOCKED bootloader T_T.
I can't hard reset using any means I know. Can you help me?
Thanks.
(I'm on a mac)
leocanela said:
Hey, guys.
I have a Moto X Brazil Retail version.
I unlocked the bootloader, but never installed a custom recovery or rom, I was just curious.
Today, I flashed kitkat 4.4.2 and everything was going fine until I received the notification to update to version to 4.4.3.
After installing the 4.4.3 update, the moto x would just boot up to the flashboot screen, with LOCKED bootloader T_T.
I can't hard reset using any means I know. Can you help me?
Thanks.
(I'm on a mac)
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what do u mean that u have unlocked the bootloader and now u have bl locked??
from fastboot choose Factory once and then if u get another time fastmode choose another time Factory.
if doesn t work boot into recovery and wipe cache.
He obviously downgraded. He had to have been on 4.4.3 (or higher), unlocked, flashed a custom ROM, decided to go back to stock, and flashed 4.4.2. (downgrade)
That pretty much sum it up?
Everybody PLEASE READ the warnings that downgrade = brick....
I have a unlocked 1058 going to be used under t-mobile. I'm wondering should I root before upgrade to 4.4.4 or vice versa? Pros and Cons?
Doesn't matter one way or another. Unlock bootloader, take OTA or flash manually, flash recovery, flash su.zip, done.
If you root(or have custom recovery) before update you have to flash manually, if you for-go rooting right away you can take the OTA. If you try OTA with custom recovery you'll boot loop (kinda, you start your phone and then it shutsdown to go into recovery after a minute or two). So avoid that if possible.
skyliney said:
I have a unlocked 1058 going to be used under t-mobile. I'm wondering should I root before upgrade to 4.4.4 or vice versa? Pros and Cons?
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By unlocked, you mean SIM unlocked, or Bootloader unlocked (if ATT XT1058 via China Middleman, if Rogers XT1058 or other via Moto web site)?
Take OTA, then root...
Why? To root you need to install custom recovery (like TWRP). To take the OTA you need stock recovery...
So... Root first is Flash TWRP, Root, flash stock recovery, take OTA. Or... Upgrade first would be Take OTA, flash TWRP and root.
If your XT1058 is only SIM unlocked, and not bootloader unlocked, then do not take the OTA as you wont be able to root it.
KidJoe said:
By unlocked, you mean SIM unlocked, or Bootloader unlocked (if ATT XT1058 via China Middleman, if Rogers XT1058 or other via Moto web site)?
Take OTA, then root...
Why? To root you need to install custom recovery (like TWRP). To take the OTA you need stock recovery...
So... Root first is Flash TWRP, Root, flash stock recovery, take OTA. Or... Upgrade first would be Take OTA, flash TWRP and root.
If your XT1058 is only SIM unlocked, and not bootloader unlocked, then do not take the OTA as you wont be able to root it.
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You guys are awesome! Thanks!
Can we update phone's software via ota even after unlocking the boot loader and installing custom recovery
Nooooooooooooooooo
No, Not even in your dreams,
From what I've learned from my own Issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/totally-screwed-updating-rooted-x-4-4-4-t2896292
Never update phone's software via ota, while you are on Custom Recovery.
Patel21 is correct, you can't with a custom recovery.
You need stock recovery to take the OTA, then you can reinstall a custom recovery
m.ryuu said:
Can we update phone's software via ota even after unlocking the boot loader and installing custom recovery
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Yes you can as long as you flash back to stock recovery before accepting the OTA. Once done, flash custom recovery and root if lost.
m.ryuu said:
Can we update phone's software via ota even after unlocking the boot loader and installing custom recovery
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OTA will not install when you have a custom recovery on your phone. Instead you'll be stuck in a bootloop if you have tried to install an OTA with a custom recovery.
Rather than my retyping everything... Please see -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-OTA.html
I've flashed ota updates via custom recovery, you just have to know what you're doing. Also, the Moto boot loader won't relock as far as I know after an update. It doesn't on the Dev edition, not sure about unlocked retail or devices that have been unlocked with sunshine.
Sent from my Moto X
Since all unlocked devices are the same as the dev edition....the same would be true.
KJ said:
Since all unlocked devices are the same as the dev edition....the same would be true.
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The only thing I want sure of was sunshine. If you unlocked via a code, then yes, all of them act the same.
Sent from my Moto X
imnuts said:
I've flashed ota updates via custom recovery, you just have to know what you're doing. Also, the Moto boot loader won't relock as far as I know after an update. It doesn't on the Dev edition, not sure about unlocked retail or devices that have been unlocked with sunshine.
Sent from my Moto X
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I don't completely understand how Sunshine works, so I can't say for sure, however based on reading the thread, my understanding is it wont relock.
But if you unlock via mfastboot oem unlock {YourUniqueCode} your bootloader will not relock itself. This holds true for developer and non-developer alike.
Someone pls post a Link to stock recovery
m.ryuu said:
Someone pls post a Link to stock recovery
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It's in the sbf for your phone/carrier/version.
4.4.4 version Asia retail not there
m.ryuu said:
4.4.4 version Asia retail not there
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Have you checked -> http://www.filefactory.com/folder/dd05c058d3ff8dbe/?sort=created&order=DESC&show=25 too?
Is it possible to get custom roms on xperia play r800i locked boot loader. Running gin2kat android 2.3.7.
Hi I got a bit excited and unlocked bootloader and root and have twrp now but now I want to flash an ota to 5.1 bit it seems I can't is this correct?
Or someone shed some light on the process I have the European xt1092
I presume I have to go back fully stock and just flash in stock recovery while unroofed and still have bootloader unlocked
gavin-phelan said:
Hi I got a bit excited and unlocked bootloader and root and have twrp now but now I want to flash an ota to 5.1 bit it seems I can't is this correct?
Or someone shed some light on the process I have the European xt1092
I presume I have to go back fully stock and just flash in stock recovery while unroofed and still have bootloader unlocked
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Yep.OTA means no system modification,AFAIK.
gavin-phelan said:
Hi I got a bit excited and unlocked bootloader and root and have twrp now but now I want to flash an ota to 5.1 bit it seems I can't is this correct?
Or someone shed some light on the process I have the European xt1092
I presume I have to go back fully stock and just flash in stock recovery while unroofed and still have bootloader unlocked
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I had to go completely stock to flash the ota and my boot loader is still unlocked