Hey, guys.
I have a Moto X Brazil Retail version.
I unlocked the bootloader, but never installed a custom recovery or rom, I was just curious.
Today, I flashed kitkat 4.4.2 and everything was going fine until I received the notification to update to version to 4.4.3.
After installing the 4.4.3 update, the moto x would just boot up to the flashboot screen, with LOCKED bootloader T_T.
I can't hard reset using any means I know. Can you help me?
Thanks.
(I'm on a mac)
leocanela said:
Hey, guys.
I have a Moto X Brazil Retail version.
I unlocked the bootloader, but never installed a custom recovery or rom, I was just curious.
Today, I flashed kitkat 4.4.2 and everything was going fine until I received the notification to update to version to 4.4.3.
After installing the 4.4.3 update, the moto x would just boot up to the flashboot screen, with LOCKED bootloader T_T.
I can't hard reset using any means I know. Can you help me?
Thanks.
(I'm on a mac)
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what do u mean that u have unlocked the bootloader and now u have bl locked??
from fastboot choose Factory once and then if u get another time fastmode choose another time Factory.
if doesn t work boot into recovery and wipe cache.
He obviously downgraded. He had to have been on 4.4.3 (or higher), unlocked, flashed a custom ROM, decided to go back to stock, and flashed 4.4.2. (downgrade)
That pretty much sum it up?
Everybody PLEASE READ the warnings that downgrade = brick....
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I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J
ejason said:
I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J
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PwnMyMoto and jcase's methods are for locked bootloaders. You first need to unlock your bootloader. Then you need to decide if you want to take the OTA to 4.4 or not because once you upgrade to 4.2.2 post-camera, you can never downgrade to 4.2.2 pre-camera without bricking your device.
If you want to upgrade to 4.4, here are the instructions to unlock and gain root:
[STEP-BY-STEP INSTRUCTIONS] Unlocking and Rooting a Dev Ed Moto X Running Kit Kat
I have read of others who kept the 4.2.2 bootloader and other partitions and just selectively flashed those partitions they wanted as each new upgrade's sbf firmware was released. I don't know what advantages there are to doing that.
ejason said:
I have rooted every phone i've had and for some reason the MOTO X is confusing me! The phone is a bone stock developers Ed. 4.2.2 pre camera.
I am confused as to which jcase method to use or if there is another option.
I am guessing PwnMyMoto 1.4.3 verizon. but i'm not sure.
Any help would be fantastic.
Thanks,
J
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It's a Developer Edition. Take all the updates available (4.2.2 camera update, 4.4 and now 4.4.2). Get the unlock code from Motorola and unlock your bootloader. Once that is done, flash twrp recovery and then install root via twrp.
Very simple on Dev Editions just because you can unlock the bootloader and flash an alternate recovery (twrp, cwm, etc..).
I agree. Unlock your bootloader (Doesn't void warranty on Developer Edition), flash TWRP recovery, then boot to TWRP and install/flash SuperSU. And it doesn't matter what ROM version you're running. (there is a TWRP for 4.2.2 and one for 4.4/4.4.2).
As mentioned, the bootloader included in the android versions can prevent you from downgrading the rom version. (i.e. bootloader in 4.4.2 prevents you from downgrading to any previous ROM). Why would you want to downgrade? If you have a locked bootloader, you'd want to downgrade to be able to use the root processes needed when you have a locked bootloader. But if you have an unlocked bootloader, because you can flash an alternate recovery (not possible with locked bootloader) and root no matter what ROM version you have installed, the only reason to downgrade would be if you encounter a bug you can't deal with that isn't present in the older roms.
because 4.4.2 fixes the exchange and bluetooth issues, and doesn't introduce anything new, its suggested you update to 4.4.2 if you have an unlocked boot loader (4.4.2 isn't rootable on locked bootloaders and may not be, so its recommended that those with locked bootloaders who want to root stick with 4.4).
KidJoe said:
I agree. Unlock your bootloader (Doesn't void warranty on Developer Edition), flash TWRP recovery, then boot to TWRP and install/flash SuperSU. And it doesn't matter what ROM version you're running. (there is a TWRP for 4.2.2 and one for 4.4/4.4.2).
I didn't know there was a different TWRP for 4.2.2.
As mentioned, the bootloader included in the android versions can prevent you from downgrading the rom version. (i.e. bootloader in 4.4.2 prevents you from downgrading to any previous ROM). Why would you want to downgrade? If you have a locked bootloader, you'd want to downgrade to be able to use the root processes needed when you have a locked bootloader. But if you have an unlocked bootloader, because you can flash an alternate recovery (not possible with locked bootloader) and root no matter what ROM version you have installed, the only reason to downgrade would be if you encounter a bug you can't deal with that isn't present in the older roms.
because 4.4.2 fixes the exchange and bluetooth issues, and doesn't introduce anything new, its suggested you update to 4.4.2 if you have an unlocked boot loader (4.4.2 isn't rootable on locked bootloaders and may not be, so its recommended that those with locked bootloaders who want to root stick with 4.4).
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From what i have read 4.4.2 isn't rootable at all. Even if you have an unlocked bootloader. Is that correct?
Great info, thanks.
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
I did something like that for an HTC ONE i have on straight talk. I unlocked the bootloader from the HTC website, then installed TWRP, and then rooted and its running a 4.4.2 ROM that is great.
ejason said:
From what i have read 4.4.2 isn't rootable at all. Even if you have an unlocked bootloader. Is that correct?
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Incorrect. You can do whatever you want with the DE, regardless of what version of Android you're on.
Sent from my Moto X
ejason said:
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
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There are directions on a 1 page pamphlet that came with your VZW DE on how to unlock the bootloader.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
ejason said:
I thought that the Verizon DE already had an unlocked bootloader? Or is it like an HTC where i have to go the the MOTOROLA webite and get a code?
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It is all in that step-by-step link I gave you above.
Ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the TWRP.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and CD into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the TWRP with goo manager?
ejason said:
Ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the TWRP.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and CD into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the TWRP with goo manager?
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did it finish flashing? mine says that when i flash a recovery also, but it flashes.
after you flash it dont reboot, just go into recovery (volume down to move the selection, volume up to execute)
then select reboot system, and it will ask if you want to root.
ejason said:
ok, so i have my phone unlocked, updated to 4.4 and for some reason i can not flash the twrp.
I get the error (bootloader) variable not supported!
Any ideas.
I have tried both mfastboot and fastboot and i get nothing.
I also moved all files into another folder and cd into that folder and still the same error.
Can i install the twrp with goo manager?
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ok, thanks for everyones hellp. Done and done..
Hi people. I neen your help for booting my phone.
I had Stock 4.4.2, Moto X with camera update and Locked Bootloader, today I stupidly flashed a ROM 4.4.4, I know I have to be on UB, but I forgot it, it was an impulse. I got an error in the flashing, then I tried to flash my sbf Stock Version, but now it says Downgraded security something with gpt and I cannot flash anything, I mean starts flahsing but in boot.img it got stucked, please if someone tried the same and could help me please.
Thanks in advance.
icerebro said:
Hi people. I neen your help for booting my phone.
I had Stock 4.4.2, Moto X with camera update and Locked Bootloader, today I stupidly flashed a ROM 4.4.4, I know I have to be on UB, but I forgot it, it was an impulse. I got an error in the flashing, then I tried to flash my sbf Stock Version, but now it says Downgraded security something with gpt and I cannot flash anything, I mean starts flahsing but in boot.img it got stucked, please if someone tried the same and could help me please.
Thanks in advance.
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Without Bootloader unlocking how can u flash a rom to your device thats first Mistake ... I think u cant back to u r device...
icerebro said:
Hi people. I neen your help for booting my phone.
I had Stock 4.4.2, Moto X with camera update and Locked Bootloader, today I stupidly flashed a ROM 4.4.4, I know I have to be on UB, but I forgot it, it was an impulse. I got an error in the flashing, then I tried to flash my sbf Stock Version, but now it says Downgraded security something with gpt and I cannot flash anything, I mean starts flahsing but in boot.img it got stucked, please if someone tried the same and could help me please.
Thanks in advance.
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Mahesh8348 said:
Without Bootloader unlocking how can u flash a rom to your device thats first Mistake ... I think u cant back to u r device...
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Yep, you are stuck until the full 4.4.4 SBF is released for your carrier. Shouldn't have done that.
Who is your carrier? If it is AT&T, you are in luck! The 4.4.4 SBF was just released. If not....bummer - you will have to wait. Can't flash a ROM with a different CID with a locked BL.
I highly suggest you don't attempt to manually force the older rom. Really, beyond the fact that you flashed the wrong ROM, how did you miss all the warnings that downgrade = brick?
Tough situation to be in. Hopefully you have an AT&T unit. If so, we can help get you fixed up.
Well, I have solved it Unlocking my Bootloader and then reinstalling the rom 4.4.4 retail from Brazil. It works now.
I have a question, now I am in Brazil but I am from Perú, and when I try to change the APN for the one I use in Perú, it deletes itself, so I can not change the APN or create a new one because i can not save it. What is the problem in there?
My phone was Nextel operator, then I unlock it, never had a problem.
Hope your help.
Thanks!
Sorry If this is a newbie question.
SO here is my Story.
I Was trying to flash the Epsilon Project ROM for my Moto X 1052. So I first created a Nandroid Backup of My Kitkat 4.4.4 Stock ROM.
But When I was wiping my data Cache and dalvik i accidentally cleared all my internal storage. The Stock ROM was completely wiped and my cell was stuck at Bootloader Unlocked warning message.
Suddenly i got an idea and I flashed The Epsilon ROM using OTG Cable. The device booted succesfully. But if I want to go to the stock rom back then should i restore my Nandroid or I should follow the RSDLite method.
Does flashing the custom ROM using the OTG have any effect on the Bootloader because I heard that Downgrading the bootloader from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 bricks the phone. Is my bootloader is still on 4.4.4?
Thanks
Nandroid or use fastboot. Why would flashing a rom using an OTG cable be any different from having your phone connected to a computer? The only way your bootloader would be on 4.4.2 is if you flashed a 4.4.2 rom, but that wouldn't be successful.
Why doesn't anybody use fastboot anymore?
I used to have a Samsung device. Everything was flashed using Odin and it had extSdCard slot also.
So dealing with so many commands freak me out. That's why I dont use fastboot. (don't know about others)
Thnks for your reply
nhizzat said:
...The only way your bootloader would be on 4.4.2 is if you flashed a 4.4.2 rom, but that wouldn't be successful
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Actually, even if you bricked downgrading to 4.4.2, the bootloader wouldn't be downgraded.
I've not seen anyone able to downgrade their bootloader, bricking or not. If it is possible, that gives some hope to all those 4.4.4 VZW users with locked bootloaders, who can't use sunshine currently...
Hello, I have upgraded to 5.0.2. via OTA a few days ago. My phone was RetEU .23, and the update notification that 5.0.2. became so annoying, so I decided to give it a shot. Lollipop is a disappointment for me, battery drain issues, lagging all over the menus, slow dialer, the phone was running better with KK installed, so I want to return back to 4.4.4.
Unfortunately there is no clear opinion whether this could be done, some say that when you have 5.0.2. bootloader installed with the OTA, you cannot go back, others say that it is no problem to do so. Really confusing.
Anyone tried to go back to 4.4.4. after getting the OTA? Could you please share how did you do so? Unlocking the bootloader and flashing one of the 4.4.4 stock ROMs from the General Section?
dub_1 said:
Hello, I have upgraded to 5.0.2. via OTA a few days ago. My phone was RetEU .23, and the update notification that 5.0.2. became so annoying, so I decided to give it a shot. Lollipop is a disappointment for me, battery drain issues, lagging all over the menus, slow dialer, the phone was running better with KK installed, so I want to return back to 4.4.4.
Unfortunately there is no clear opinion whether this could be done, some say that when you have 5.0.2. bootloader installed with the OTA, you cannot go back, others say that it is no problem to do so. Really confusing.
Anyone tried to go back to 4.4.4. after getting the OTA? Could you please share how did you do so? Unlocking the bootloader and flashing one of the 4.4.4 stock ROMs from the General Section?
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Hello,
i actually switched from 5.0.2 back to KK 4.4.4 from Pizza_dox
when your bootloader is unlocked and you have TWRP installed
follow these instructions
1, go do a factory reset
2, go to advanced wipe and select :dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage/cache
when you did that there is no system on your phone so when you restart you will be going into an endless bootloop.
3, go press install and select the Microkat.zip file from Pizza_Dox
when that is done you have agian kitkat on your device
i think there some other methods but this is how i did it succesfully.
Also dont forget to make a backup because you will lose everything.
Gerriitw said:
Hello,
i actually switched from 5.0.2 back to KK 4.4.4 from Pizza_dox
when your bootloader is unlocked and you have TWRP installed
follow these instructions
1, go do a factory reset
2, go to advanced wipe and select :dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage/cache
when you did that there is no system on your phone so when you restart you will be going into an endless bootloop.
3, go press install and select the Microkat.zip file from Pizza_Dox
when that is done you have agian kitkat on your device
i think there some other methods but this is how i did it succesfully.
Also dont forget to make a backup because you will lose everything.
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Thanks for your comment. I actually plan to go back to the stock 4.4.4. I have a basic idea of bootloader and things but not deep into this and have never done it before. From what I have read , I will have to:
1. First I need to unlock the bootloader, as per the instructions in the Moto website.
2. Then I will need to do a factory reset. (settings-secuirity-factory reset or some other way of doing this?)
3. Download 4.4.4 firmware + script.
4. Start up with Power+VolDown buttons and have bootloader menu on screen
5. Run the downloaded script from its .bat file.
6. Wait for some time for the flashing to end, then have stock 4.4.4
Please correct me if something is wrong or missed.
dub_1 said:
Thanks for your comment. I actually plan to go back to the stock 4.4.4. I have a basic idea of bootloader and things but not deep into this and have never done it before. From what I have read , I will have to:
1. First I need to unlock the bootloader, as per the instructions in the Moto website.
2. Then I will need to do a factory reset. (settings-secuirity-factory reset or some other way of doing this?)
3. Download 4.4.4 firmware + script.
4. Start up with Power+VolDown buttons and have bootloader menu on screen
5. Run the downloaded script from its .bat file.
6. Wait for some time for the flashing to end, then have stock 4.4.4
Please correct me if something is wrong or missed.
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What i did...
Download the correct kk stock rom
Setup my drivers and mfastboot correctly (simple fast boot works too)
Unlocked bootloader. (Voids warranty coz gives bootloader status 3)
Reboot in bootloader now...
Flash all files of kitkat except gpt.bin and motoboot.bin (they never flash for me lol )
Flash all other files (i typed filenames manually)
Fastboot reboot
Ps - no matter what i do..i have not been able to lock my bootloader once i downgraded from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Locking bootloader works well on 5.0.2
doctor_droid said:
What i did...
Download the correct kk stock rom
Setup my drivers and mfastboot correctly (simple fast boot works too)
Unlocked bootloader. (Voids warranty coz gives bootloader status 3)
Reboot in bootloader now...
Flash all files of kitkat except gpt.bin and motoboot.bin (they never flash for me lol )
Flash all other files (i typed filenames manually)
Fastboot reboot
Ps - no matter what i do..i have not been able to lock my bootloader once i downgraded from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Locking bootloader works well on 5.0.2
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well guess im gonna try - but no need to do, as makes no difference except to downgrading.... So best off unlocked
simply use the 4.4.4 link in my signature and pick firmware 2 or B called DSDSALL to go back to 4.4.4 .23 ret(xx)
So, it has been confirmed by several forums that when you have officially received the 5.0.2 OTA download update, you cannot go back to KK.
It has something to do with the new L bootloader. I guess that there is no way of doing this, up to now at least. Don't know if someone has tried and succeeded.
When you have flashed the 5.0.2. OTA however, you can have KK installed back, as most of the users on xda.
dub_1 said:
So, it has been confirmed by several forums that when you have officially received the 5.0.2 OTA download update, you cannot go back to KK. FALSE
It has something to do with the new L bootloader. I guess that there is no way of doing this, up to now at least. Don't know if someone has tried and succeeded. FALSE
When you have flashed the 5.0.2. OTA however, you can have KK installed back, as most of the users on xda.
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YES you can install kitkat see my signature you NEED a unlocked boot loader
I have been up / down and sideways with ALL 4 versions ( 3 kitkat 1 Lollipop) of XT1068 firmware 50+ installs , a few soft bricks - also installed a few custom roms - gone back to lollipop and kitkat from these too.
see my signature for 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 firmware xt1068
reefuge said:
YES you can install kitkat see my signature you NEED a unlocked boot loader
I have been up / down and sideways with ALL 4 versions ( 3 kitkat 1 Lollipop) of XT1068 firmware 50+ installs , a few soft bricks - also installed a few custom roms - gone back to lollipop and kitkat from these too.
see my signature for 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 firmware xt1068
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Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
dub_1 said:
Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
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no absolutely not....... boot logo warning still comes up ...warranty still void and strangely if been to 5.0.2 and back to 4.4.4 it wont relock
but you can relock if on 5.0.2
Successful downgrade from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Dear All,
Pls help me in downgrading from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4 on my XT1068 Dual Sim Indian Version.
I need to know whether we can return to 4.4.4 without unlocking bootloader and is rooting needed.
Pls let me know your experience in a noob friendly way.
TIA... :angel:
dub_1 said:
Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
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What exactly did you do? His signature is gone...
Hi everyone,
Noticed today, there was a system update prompt on my Moto G 2nd gen XT1064. The update is 24.201.4.en.US. Of course I can't install it, because I'm rooted and unlocked. So I went about the procedure of flashing the stock Lollipop image, and relocking the boat loader, so I can get the update. No matter what I try, I can't seem to re-lock the bootloader. I tried the stock Lollipop image, it flashes fine, but when I go to relock the bootloader, I keep getting the error, image not properly signed. I tried this command "mfastboot oem lock" nothing works. I was able to flash TWRP recovery, and load my 6.0 image back up. So I'm back to where I was, but I would like to get the security update. Can someone recommend the best procedure for getting it?
Thanks much!
DaveImagery said:
Hi everyone,
Noticed today, there was a system update prompt on my Moto G 2nd gen XT1064. The update is 24.201.4.en.US. Of course I can't install it, because I'm rooted and unlocked. So I went about the procedure of flashing the stock Lollipop image, and relocking the boat loader, so I can get the update. No matter what I try, I can't seem to re-lock the bootloader. I tried the stock Lollipop image, it flashes fine, but when I go to relock the bootloader, I keep getting the error, image not properly signed. I tried this command "mfastboot oem lock" nothing works. I was able to flash TWRP recovery, and load my 6.0 image back up. So I'm back to where I was, but I would like to get the security update. Can someone recommend the best procedure for getting it?
Thanks much!
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just flash stock 6.0 firmware, search on the general thread, it will flash stock 6.0 along with stock recovery, there is no problem if you have unlocked bootloader, you only need stock rom, stock recovery and non-rooted
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there is no problem if you have unlocked bootloader,
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I'm such a noob, I didn't know that. Thanks very much for your help.
Is the complete 6.0 rom not available? I can't find it, just the OTA update.
DaveImagery said:
Hi everyone,
Noticed today, there was a system update prompt on my Moto G 2nd gen XT1064. The update is 24.201.4.en.US. Of course I can't install it, because I'm rooted and unlocked. So I went about the procedure of flashing the stock Lollipop image, and relocking the boat loader, so I can get the update. No matter what I try, I can't seem to re-lock the bootloader. I tried the stock Lollipop image, it flashes fine, but when I go to relock the bootloader, I keep getting the error, image not properly signed. I tried this command "mfastboot oem lock" nothing works. I was able to flash TWRP recovery, and load my 6.0 image back up. So I'm back to where I was, but I would like to get the security update. Can someone recommend the best procedure for getting it?
Thanks much!
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As your bootloader is updated to 48.86 you cannot downgrade to lollipop and relock the bootloader.Only way to relock is to flash marshamallow update.then you can relock the bootloader