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Just got this OTA update today, was around 686Kb i think.
Anyone else got it, spotted any changes?
I had expected one recently after reading about the "one-click root" app and how a patch was already being worked on.
Do we think it was just that?
The "More Info" of the update mentioned something about including a number of small changes, dependant on location, but nothing about security patches.
It's very cold here in the "I Haven't Rooted" section.
I only did it 2 days ago - its not toooo late to join the dark side, perhaps this is a 1 click fix and the final update promised
Yea most people here have root. U should root. Its the only way ur g1 can reach its full potential. Srry for the spelling lol
Other than being able to make the notification bar black instead of white (which I really would like), there really isn't much I'd bother rooting for at this point in time... I don't have time to search through hundreds of ROMs to find one on which everything works perfectly for me, and I kinda like getting my OTA updates.
When the G1 is officially cast aside from updates and things, I'll definitely do it, but (and I know it's crazy talk to say this around here) for now I'm not really that bothered!
Unless anyone wants to convince me otherwise?
well think about it this way. all those times where you say "damn i wish tmobile would update this already" or "why didnt this come with the phone??" or "hurry up damn phone!"
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if you root, theres a 99% chance you'll never say any of that again
least in my experience. i just rooted yesterday, and i love it!
i would like to know exactly whats fixed in this as the uk seem to get security updates 1st, possibly because we didnt have to wait aslong for cupcake.
And on the rooting point, go for cm4.0.1 recovery 1.4 there you go, they are the ones right for you
How to Root a CRC37 phone
Afternoon people this is my first time posting i have a g1 phone
and i am looking for the easiest way to root it.
I have the CRC37 build version of the phone and i want to root the phone so i can put app's straight onto my SD card
Can anyone help or recomend anything im worried about bricking my phone which would be a dissastor.
Nstro said:
Afternoon people this is my first time posting i have a g1 phone
and i am looking for the easiest way to root it.
I have the CRC37 build version of the phone and i want to root the phone so i can put app's straight onto my SD card
Can anyone help or recomend anything im worried about bricking my phone which would be a dissastor.
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Relax, the G1 is very difficult to brick.
Read this thread and don't do anything stupid like flashing SPL before radio...
Hi guys Im new to this thread and I've been reading the whole treads for like 3 days and for some reason im getting confused about the pros and cons so I just want to ask if my understanding about the froyo leak flash with odin3 is correct. If there is something else that i forgot to mention that is really important please remind me before i flash my new captivate
PRos:
1. flash 10.1 on browser
2. JIt compliler
3. no need to root the phone
4. can save apps on sd card
5. GPs more accurate
6. can still be root
Cons:
1. unlocked code from 2.1 eclair to use other sim will not work anymore
2. IMEI number will change and impossible to retrived unless you send them back to samsung?
3. no more android keyboard
4. void the warranty?
5. updating through OTA will not work anymore after reverting from froyo 2.2 leak to the stock 2.1 eclair by using odin3
6. after flashing couple of times from reverting to eclair to froyo will ban you from andriod market and the phone will state that there is no sim even if there is one inserted
7. lag issues
This is my first time to have an android phone so im totally noob and no idea yet and a little scared of making mistake. Also if i root my phone will i be able to unroot it again in case i want to return back the phone to at&t? Thank you in advance
Are your pros supposed to be compared to 2.1?
"no need to root"? There was not a need a root 2.1 either - or the same reasons existed, so i don't follow this.
The way i see it, 2.2 gives you access to 2.2 only apps in the store. Not much else. It is 2.2, yes, but there is not a lot more functionality. I do want it, but I can wait for official build.
BTW, there are built in tether apps - no longer in 2.1 JH7. That could be a pro.
Cons:
How about bugs and work arounds. It is stable, but Google groups and Exchange groups don't work. Samsung email client is broken when replying, etc. There is a pretty good list.
I will wait for the next build from Samsung, but that is me.
If your a "basic" user such I am (no exchange support needed) and just do the basic tweet/fb/browse for porn (erm?)/ play music/txt etc... I think you would be fine.
But.. if your not comfortable flashing ROM's and realize that your going to be voiding your warranty as soon as you do. Then don't do it and wait for OTA.
And I can't imagine that the OTA would be any better or feature rich then Cognition's 2.2.X beta.
Btw.... you listed
"3. no more android keyboard"
DG added it into the latest build.
CON: ATT address book doesnt work.
PRO: better battery life.
Pro: Cognition any version
Con: You won't get anything done because you're playing with your phone too much!
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6. after flashing couple of times from reverting to eclair to froyo will ban you from andriod market and the phone will state that there is no sim even if there is one inserted
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Is there anyone that can elaborate a little bit? That kind of scares me
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Is there anyone that can elaborate a little bit? That kind of scares me
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I have not heard of this problem before. I will do some checking on it but sounds like he is a noob that is looking into anything that can possibly go wrong. Also sounds like whoever originally posted that problem most likely had no idea what they were doing and flashed 2.2 wrong even though I do not know how that is possible. I have flashed back and forth since SRE and have done so for each Cog build to keep current. Phone works amazingly, GPS is flawless and is the fastest phone I have ever owned. Go Cognition!!
sinichi21 said:
Hi guys Im new to this thread and I've been reading the whole treads for like 3 days and for some reason im getting confused about the pros and cons so I just want to ask if my understanding about the froyo leak flash with odin3 is correct. If there is something else that i forgot to mention that is really important please remind me before i flash my new captivate
PRos:
1. flash 10.1 on browser
2. JIt compliler
3. no need to root the phone
4. can save apps on sd card
5. GPs more accurate
6. can still be root
Cons:
1. unlocked code from 2.1 eclair to use other sim will not work anymore
2. IMEI number will change and impossible to retrived unless you send them back to samsung?
3. no more android keyboard
4. void the warranty?
5. updating through OTA will not work anymore after reverting from froyo 2.2 leak to the stock 2.1 eclair by using odin3
6. after flashing couple of times from reverting to eclair to froyo will ban you from andriod market and the phone will state that there is no sim even if there is one inserted
7. lag issues
This is my first time to have an android phone so im totally noob and no idea yet and a little scared of making mistake. Also if i root my phone will i be able to unroot it again in case i want to return back the phone to at&t? Thank you in advance
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DON'T DO IT!!!! wait for the Official release, this is a leaked..aka stolen version of froyo, you will void your warrenty. If you still want to do it after what i said keep in mind that when the Official release of froyo comes out and ATT wants to do an over the air (OTA) update, the ATT server will not recognize your phones firmware any more so you won't be able to get the update of the leagle version of froyo. This leaked...or stolen version is full of glitches don't download it.
ok seriously, its not going to void your warranty if u revert back to stock using the easy 1 click restore by odin...ive sent mine back once i was running cognition 2.2 and they had no problem exchanging it. the leaked version is NOT NOT NOT NOT full of glitches, it works perfectly and i have yet to find a problem with it! so dont talk here unless u knwo what u are talking about buddy
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ok seriously, its not going to void your warranty if u revert back to stock using the easy 1 click restore by odin...ive sent mine back once i was running cognition 2.2 and they had no problem exchanging it. the leaked version is NOT NOT NOT NOT full of glitches, it works perfectly and i have yet to find a problem with it! so dont talk here unless u knwo what u are talking about buddy
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Number 1 im not your buddy sir...number two it is glitch ridden and thats been posted all over the internet. As well as an att bulletin that was release...maybe you need to do a little more studying "buster". Check out the ATT bulletin and it will advise as well as other xda-developers not to install as this is not the final version but it is a stolen version and as with all stolen merchandise there are issues once recieved by the poor sucker who bought it. Once you down load this froyo stolen version 80% of the android market will not recognize your phone so apps that you had previously won't be available anymore. And yes as quoted by ATT this will void your warranty so download at your own risk "Pal"
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Number 1 im not your buddy sir...number two it is glitch ridden and thats been posted all over the internet. As well as an att bulletin that was release...maybe you need to do a little more studying "buster". Check out the ATT bulletin and it will advise as well as other xda-developers not to install as this is not the final version but it is a stolen version and as with all stolen merchandise there are issues once recieved by the poor sucker who bought it. Once you down load this froyo stolen version 80% of the android market will not recognize your phone so apps that you had previously won't be available anymore. And yes as quoted by ATT this will void your warranty so download at your own risk "Pal"
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you, 'SIR', are a plethora of misinformation....i love reading your posts. keep up the entertaining posts!
Pirateghost said:
you, 'SIR', are a plethora of misinformation....i love reading your posts. keep up the entertaining posts!
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And you "Young Lady" are and plethora of misleading post as well.
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And you "Young Lady" are and plethora of misleading post as well.
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i am offended that you would call me a young lady. thank you for your moronic ability to be a douche.
i am waiting for your classic 'your mom' one-liners.
stewart2568 said:
Number 1 im not your buddy sir...number two it is glitch ridden and thats been posted all over the internet. As well as an att bulletin that was release...maybe you need to do a little more studying "buster". Check out the ATT bulletin and it will advise as well as other xda-developers not to install as this is not the final version but it is a stolen version and as with all stolen merchandise there are issues once recieved by the poor sucker who bought it. Once you down load this froyo stolen version 80% of the android market will not recognize your phone so apps that you had previously won't be available anymore. And yes as quoted by ATT this will void your warranty so download at your own risk "Pal"
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I've been using 2.2 since like a couple days it was released. * touchwood* so far all I noticed is that my battery performance is better. I don't even know what "glitches" u r talking about.
Before u say some software is glitchy, please be specific atleast for a few of them. And an FYI, not having android keyboard is not a glitch.
EDIT:
I got my first Captivate right on the 2nd day of its release. I exchanged it for another in 2 weeks due to battery issues. I rooted, n then flashed back to stock and returned. No question of warranty loss if you know how to revert back to stock.
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DON'T DO IT!!!! wait for the Official release, this is a leaked..aka stolen version of froyo, you will void your warrenty. If you still want to do it after what i said keep in mind that when the Official release of froyo comes out and ATT wants to do an over the air (OTA) update, the ATT server will not recognize your phones firmware any more so you won't be able to get the update of the leagle version of froyo. This leaked...or stolen version is full of glitches don't download it.
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ahaha wow this is seriously entertaining! Hopefully you continue as i needed a good laugh today.
I have been on the froyo LEAK since the day after it popped up and it has been much more stable than any version of eclair EVER was. This is the whole point of xda....you can go hang out with all the newbs at androidforums or something and preach about how dangerous it is and stick with eclair.
you have no clue if it is stolen. How do you know samsung didn't release this on purpose to get feedback?? I would never listen to a word ATT says they are a joke. Its people like you that need to just keep their mouth shut you obviously have yet to flash so how can you preach about how it is 'full of glitches' haha.
oh and its really hard to odin back to stock to get the official update.
I did not know that 80% of the market is not supposed to recognize my phone any more. Somebody should let the market know. Maybe now that I know 89% of the market is not supposed to work it will now quit working. Oh no! as I am typing this 93% of the market just disappeared from my cappy!
And by the way, if I get caught with stolen software in my possession - i'm turning all of you all in!
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I did not know that 80% of the market is not supposed to recognize my phone any more. Somebody should let the market know. Maybe now that I know 89% of the market is not supposed to work it will now quit working. Oh no! as I am typing this 93% of the market just disappeared from my cappy!
And by the way, if I get caught with stolen software in my possession - i'm turning all of you all in!
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60% of the time, it works everytime
Pirateghost said:
60% of the time, it works everytime
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Sex Panther - that stuff is not even legal in the U.S.!!!
dayv said:
I did not know that 80% of the market is not supposed to recognize my phone any more. Somebody should let the market know. Maybe now that I know 89% of the market is not supposed to work it will now quit working. Oh no! as I am typing this 93% of the market just disappeared from my cappy!
And by the way, if I get caught with stolen software in my possession - i'm turning all of you all in!
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It's a leaked rom, which means that someone decided to release this...why are so many people interested in having their phones flashed back to eclair if this leaked rom is so much better? I don't understand...If I own a ford and decide to buy a toyota and it's a much better car...why would i go back to a ford? That's moving backwards right?
stewart2568 said:
It's a leaked rom, which means that someone decided to release this...why are so many people interested in having their phones flashed back to eclair if this leaked rom is so much better? I don't understand...If I own a ford and decide to buy a toyota and it's a much better car...why would i go back to a ford? That's moving backwards right?
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id definatly buy a ford over a toyota right now. toyota is overrated and ford is moving up. really drive one before you speak.
ok froyo has market issues right now do to presumably the android id. it has many new gui features and is much faster and in my experiance better battery life. so if you cant deal with the market errors wait for an official release. that is why many are going back. that and some of us are addicted to flashing our phones every 48 hours.
I been obsessed lately, trying to find something that works with our new D4's. I flashed Arctic's VZW rom after rooting my phone and....it works! I have tested SMS/MMS, GPS and phone calls with no issue. The only think that i have noticed right off the bat is that the keyboard does not light up, which I am assuming is because the necessary drivers obviously were not in place for the Razr. With this being said, I would thikn CM7 as well as other Razr roms WILL work with our phones. I'm glad we have at least something now.....
His link on XDA is here
**Bluetooth causes a reboot***
But hey, we're getting closer!!!
I also flashed the Eclipse ROM for the Razr and that is working well also. Just follow the directions on skipping the Android initial setup.
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I been obsessed lately, trying to find something that works with our new D4's. I flashed Arctic's VZW rom after rooting my phone and....it works! I have tested SMS/MMS, GPS and phone calls with no issue. The only think that i have noticed right off the bat is that the keyboard does not light up, which I am assuming is because the necessary drivers obviously were not in place for the Razr. With this being said, I would thikn CM7 as well as other Razr roms WILL work with our phones. I'm glad we have at least something now.....
His link on XDA is here
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If its anything like using the VZW 6.11.748 Razr Roms on 6.12.173 Razr then I believe enabling bluetooth will cause a reboot. Could you try that?
Also I am working with someone to bring Arctic to 2.3.6... it sounds like it would probably work better on D4 too.
You are 100% correct. Bluetooth causes a reboot. Seems to be a common problem. I am looking into it still and I edited my OP
reigndropz said:
You are 100% correct. Bluetooth causes a reboot. Seems to be a common problem. I am looking into it still and I edited my OP
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This is because 2.3.6 introduced a new bluetooth, but the Rom is based on 2.3.5 that's why it won't work.
I am very interested in how this works out. The new EclipseRom and IC3Razr may work on it too... I will be trying them when I get my Droid 4 tomorrow (I hope)
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This is because 2.3.6 introduced a new bluetooth, but the Rom is based on 2.3.5 that's why it won't work.
I am very interested in how this works out. The new EclipseRom and IC3Razr may work on it too... I will be trying them when I get my Droid 4 tomorrow (I hope)
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Great man....thanks for trying. I been racking my brain doin this. I have extracted the orginal bluetooth apk from our devices and am trying to reimplement it but im running into issues. I believe that will solve the issue.
have any pics of your phone running this ROM? i dont want to do any major modding of my phone until the sbfs have been released/leaked
If you're that worried I would wait unti something comes along more comfortable for you. For screenshots click the link in post 1. Its the same...
Could you post a video of ypur phone running the rom
Sent Via My Shiny New Droid4!
CreepyE said:
Could you post a video of ypur phone running the rom
Sent Via My Shiny New Droid4!
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No I can't because thats the only device I have to take video
I understand people being hesitant in trying this out but I would not waste anyone's time making up a lie that it works just to have people mess up their phone. I'm not an official dev but I am telling you it works. Whether anyone tries it, is on them. I'm only trying to help get our development for the D4 working. I am using Eclipse right now also, without issue.
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No I can't because thats the only device I have to take video
I understand people being hesitant in trying this out but I would not waste anyone's time making up a lie that it works just to have people mess up their phone. I'm not an official dev but I am telling you it works. Whether anyone tries it, is on them. I'm only trying to help get our development for the D4 working. I am using Eclipse right now also, without issue.
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Backlit keyboard working?
now for an ICS ROM to start working on the Droid 4
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Backlit keyboard working?
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No sir...I dont think until we get one specifically for our D4 are we gonna see that. It should just be a matter of a system file from our dump and throwin it in whatever rom we're using. The reason the Razr roms are working is because the hardware is identical with the exception of the display. The issues we are having with Bluetooth, Market and some other apps has nothing to do with the hardware of our devices. It's because most of the Razr roms were not created with the latest OS update , which all of the D4 owners have. My knowledge is limited with dev'ing but if anyone else wants to chime in on this, please feel fee....
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No sir...I dont think until we get one specifically for our D4 are we gonna see that. It should just be a matter of a system file from our dump and throwin it in whatever rom we're using. The reason the Razr roms are working is because the hardware is identical with the exception of the display. The issues we are having with Bluetooth, Market and some other apps has nothing to do with the hardware of our devices. It's because most of the Razr roms were not created with the latest OS update , which all of the D4 owners have. My knowledge is limited with dev'ing but if anyone else wants to chime in on this, please feel fee....
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I believe I found the file. I am going to try implementing it into the beta-build of Arctic for Droid 4. "lights.spyder.co" to "lights.maserati.co" sounds legit lol.
I fixed bluetooth today. Market will think you are on a Razr until I get the build.prop out for ya too.
mattlgroff said:
I believe I found the file. I am going to try implementing it into the beta-build of Arctic for Droid 4. "lights.spyder.co" to "lights.maserati.co" sounds legit lol.
I fixed bluetooth today. Market will think you are on a Razr until I get the build.prop out for ya too.
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That sounds right....awesome bro!
I think its really important when you are working without the safety net of a full XML.zip restore file, that you make it very clear with extremely dire warnings that nobody should use these ROMs until there is a way to recover properly. Average users should NOT attempt this under any circumstances and by posting about it here, you need to be responsible because you will create a wave of bricked devices. This has already started, if you note the post in the main forum briteyes has bricked her phone loading this ROM.
I know this is a very unpopular opinion, but somebody has to come out and say it, sorry.
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I think its really important when you are working without the safety net of a full XML.zip restore file, that you make it very clear with extremely dire warnings that nobody should use these ROMs until there is a way to recover properly. Average users should NOT attempt this under any circumstances and by posting about it here, you need to be responsible because you will create a wave of bricked devices. This has already started, if you note the post in the main forum briteyes has bricked her phone loading this ROM.
I know this is a very unpopular opinion, but somebody has to come out and say it, sorry.
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Very wise words cellzealot. I've seen to many people messing up their phones right now and not all of them were rom related, removed to much while getting rid of bloatware.
I'm holding off even rooting mine until there is rsd recovery files as a backup before I take the plunge. I know the rooting part is safe, just don't feel like unlocking the gates of trouble without a backup plan.
If it wasn't for people testing the limits, development would be a much slower process. I was one of the first to use the root, toy with freezing bloatware and test a bunch of the root-required apps. It is obvious that ROM flashing is a risky process, even with a restore, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done.
I am also amused by how many people have said "I don't want to root until..." since the root has been entirely stable since day 1. If you can't trust yourself to be responsible with the root abilities, why even bother posting right now when everything is in the alpha stages for this phone since it came out less than 2 weeks ago.
This is the DEVELOPMENT forum... testing and risk are implied for anything that gets posted here.
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If it wasn't for people testing the limits, development would be a much slower process. I was one of the first to use the root, toy with freezing bloatware and test a bunch of the root-required apps. It is obvious that ROM flashing is a risky process, even with a restore, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done.
I am also amused by how many people have said "I don't want to root until..." since the root has been entirely stable since day 1. If you can't trust yourself to be responsible with the root abilities, why even bother posting right now when everything is in the alpha stages for this phone since it came out less than 2 weeks ago.
This is the DEVELOPMENT forum... testing and risk are implied for anything that gets posted here.
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The root is stable, but the people rooting are NOT.
You see the posts of people deleting their own /system/apps/ folder?
CellZealot is very right in what he saying and it did have to be said. Without fastboot files and heck even without a factory-style cable it is not safe to be a crack flasher on this device.
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If it wasn't for people testing the limits, development would be a much slower process. I was one of the first to use the root, toy with freezing bloatware and test a bunch of the root-required apps. It is obvious that ROM flashing is a risky process, even with a restore, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be done.
I am also amused by how many people have said "I don't want to root until..." since the root has been entirely stable since day 1. If you can't trust yourself to be responsible with the root abilities, why even bother posting right now when everything is in the alpha stages for this phone since it came out less than 2 weeks ago.
This is the DEVELOPMENT forum... testing and risk are implied for anything that gets posted here.
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People are never happy..... like you said it's a developmental forum. If they aren't somewhat knowledgeable with flashing roms or how the process works, they should read up before saying anything at all. This is all free and people put hard work into developing things. If you want a disclaimer, go to Best Buy.
now that we have safe strap i am getting bold.. about to flash over eclipse 1.3 and see what happens... hoping for the best!
Hi all,
So my Nexus 4 arrived today and I'm umming and ahhing as to root or not.
I've heard all the good things about doing it but I'm interested in peoples rooting nightmares. What's gone wrong? When have you wanted to throw your phone out the window?
Look forward to reading!
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Hi all,
So my Nexus 4 arrived today and I'm umming and ahhing as to root or not.
I've heard all the good things about doing it but I'm interested in peoples rooting nightmares. What's gone wrong? When have you wanted to throw your phone out the window?
Look forward to reading!
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It really takes a tremendous effort to screw it up, it really does.
Cliff's Notes/summary, not an actual guide:
1. Learn to do it the old fashioned (and easiest way) by installing the drivers and using fastboot.
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
4. flash your SU binaries zip
5. b00m!
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It really takes a tremendous effort to screw it up, it really does.
Cliff's Notes/summary, not an actual guide:
1. Learn to do it the old fashioned (and easiest way) by installing the drivers and using fastboot.
2. fastboot oem unlock
3. fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
4. flash your SU binaries zip
5. b00m!
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In that case I'll lower my requirements. Anyone done it and thought 'You know what, I prefer the stock experience.'?
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In that case I'll lower my requirements. Anyone done it and thought 'You know what, I prefer the stock experience.'?
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Yes actually. I thought rooting it was great and all, even went for custom kernels. The thing is, when you get all the updates that Google provides on a near instant basis, there is no need to root and rom your phone. Also, I feel like it doesn't provide too much extra for the experience. On a side note, when I had an HTC Sensation, I would root and rom just to get the newest and greatest from Google.
Your choice, but I like getting OTA's and don't run any SU apps.
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Yes actually. I thought rooting it was great and all, even went for custom kernels. The thing is, when you get all the updates that Google provides on a near instant basis, there is no need to root and rom your phone. Also, I feel like it doesn't provide too much extra for the experience. On a side note, when I had an HTC Sensation, I would root and rom just to get the newest and greatest from Google.
Your choice, but I like getting OTA's and don't run any SU apps.
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Rooting means you are:
- able to make nandroid and Titanium Backups
- run a good custom kernel for color and sound control, better batterylife and performance and lower cpu temperatures
- install adblockers and other usefull apps.
If these aren`t improvements i don`t know what is and you might as well buy an iPhone for stock xperience, just my 2 cents.
BTW: @OP: rooting nightmares only occur with mis and badly informed users.
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Rooting means you are:
- able to make nandroid and Titanium Backups
- run a good custom kernel for color and sound control, better batterylife and performance and lower cpu temperatures
- install adblockers and other usefull apps.
If these aren`t improvements i don`t know what is and you might as well buy an iPhone for stock xperience, just my 2 cents.
BTW: @OP: rooting nightmares only occur with mis and badly informed users.
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Yes, but I feel like I don't need them on my phone. I don't need to back up apps as I am not switching roms, I like getting the OTA updates, and I don't care about ads on mobile because I never see them anyway, either through paid apps or little browsing.
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Yes, but I feel like I don't need them on my phone. I don't need to back up apps as I am not switching roms, I like getting the OTA updates, and I don't care about ads on mobile because I never see them anyway, either through paid apps or little browsing.
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Too each his own bro
I fully agree to each his own but if you do not see the advantages and personalization rooti g gives you then most likelyyou are the type tthat is satisfied with what you get. For me T9 calling alone is worth it, adjusting scree colors, raising the sound level,showing actual dBm signal strength, removal of all apps I don't want that were preloaded, darker ui experience. Now if you never try this then you wont miss it but its not lime you can't root it then unroot if you are not happy.
Bottom line updates will come the same day here whether rooted or not and these updates can also come with goodies...
Edit: Also lets be honest in a forum of 100.000's of members and rooter you will find maybe a few hundred or so that may have an issue and most of them I guarantee you was because of them not following directions properly. Thats what makes for rooting nightmares. Remember even non rooters from time to time have to restore their phones for one crazy reason or another. Now you have to restore back to 1 year ago when you first got the phone...SMH
I am having some trouble rooting and puting a custom recovery on my new Nexus 4, I unlocked the bootloader, and flashed the custom recovery through fastboot, but its not sticking, I don't know whats wrong.
UNless youir getting deadlocks letting your phone charge overnight, I would stay on stock.
CM is great, but there are just always broken things and bugs that will eventaully piss you off when you want to do something.
noahdev said:
Hi all,
What's gone wrong?
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Absolutely nothing, except for the very slight inconvenience of having to re-root or re-install TWRP after doing an Android operating system OTA update. Not only that, but I now have several "root only" apps that I needed, I have full access to the Linux command line programs which I use, and I am learning a lot about the Android OS lower level stuff. For me anyway, I really have no desire to install custom ROMS, as stock rooted Android does everything I want it to do.
There are stock based custom roms with CM type customization's... Again unless you have tried a stock customized rom with advancements you should not be judging. Also you don't have to use each cutsomization you can actually leave it stock and only use 1 or 2 custom items. Check out PSX 4.1 bone stock with a handful of customizations
There is really only one thing that annoys me about stock and that is the oversized Nav bottons. I just wished they made them smaller or gave us the otion to change the size. This is available on custom Roms and gives you more screen real-estate which definitley makes a difference.
That is one thing that keeps pulling me to custom Roms. I was running AOKP which seemed to run pretty good. I restored my phone back to stock because I thought I was having an issue with the notification light but then saw it just needed an app to make it work the way I was expecting it to.
So I have my phone rooted on stock 4.3 right now and I just wish I can make those Nav bars smaller! There are definitley cool features on some of the custom Roms though and it most certaintly can enhance your experience.
If ur not using the toolkit, then you should be.. If ur using and still manage to screw things, you should leave ur phone stock... The toolkits are already noob proof..
Connect phone to PC
Unlock boot loader
Root
Install recovery
Install ROM....
Its all 1 click each or some toolkits does it all in 1 click...
Rooted and running Paranoid Android + franco.kernel
my nightmare came from me going to fast... i missed a step and screwed up my phone...
i was able to get a stock image and reflash it, but it was a grueling 2 hours with a soft-bricked phone.
read all the stuff you can, and don't rush it.
Lucke said:
my nightmare came from me going to fast... i missed a step and screwed up my phone...
i was able to get a stock image and reflash it, but it was a grueling 2 hours with a soft-bricked phone.
read all the stuff you can, and don't rush it.
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Please don't take this the wrong way... but you being the only person with a real horror story is quite comforting!
noahdev said:
Please don't take this the wrong way... but you being the only person with a real horror story is quite comforting!
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no offense taken thats what i get for trying to root it while at work dealing with an Exchange upgrade
You can't really screw up a nexus device. It's not like Samsung where you hard flash the wrong version for the wrong phone and end up with a paperweight. If you mess up with nexus you can always return back
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My last nightmare with rooting was from htc desire hd, lots of bullcrap to be done, lots of s**t pre requisite..goldcard, emmc etc., ugh gives me headaches for days :/
Just use wugfresh toolkit and its a breeze
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I never rooted / jailbroke any previous devices but can't make up my mind on whether to do it with my N6.
I primarily never fiddled with rooting / jailbreaking in the past because of all the warranty issues in addition to pretty much any device-related product / app usually saying "you're on your own" to customers with rooted or jailbroken devices.
Not a huge issue for me now, as my phone's warranty was voided when I had to send it in for "repairs" after it broke (ie got a replacement phone in exchange for my broken one from motorola).
I'm incredibly intrigued by the countless perks that come with rooting such as customization, permissions, turning off encryption, and so on. However, I love my phone the way it currently is, and as a result am a bit hesitant to set it all up again / risk messing something up since I would need to learn how to do it (ie read one of the many useful guides on these forums).
Besides having better control over every part of the phone, the other main appeal of rooting for me is being able to get rid of the AT&T bloatwear on the phone. I absolutely hate AT&T and would love to rid myself of their presence in my life, even if just by a small amount.
So the issue is:
currently very content with my non-rooted N6 vs. love customizing / controlling everything on my device and hate AT&T with a burning passion, but would have to spend ample time learning how to properly root the phone / set everything up.
If anyone has any opinions I'm all ears. Do you know of a reason I should definitely not root the device that I'm unaware of? Did rooting your phone make your experience with your device so much better that you wouldn't even consider going back to a non-rooted device?
Opinions / thoughts are welcomed as I am pretty much just thinking out loud with this thread anyways :laugh:
Hard part is getting drivers installed but there is an all in one tool kit that does it all for you. Stalk lollipop is missing lots of key features like kill all apps button, and free hot spot. Roms fix this also having all volume sliders is great.
phallb said:
I never rooted / jailbroke any previous devices but can't make up my mind on whether to do it with my N6.
I primarily never fiddled with rooting / jailbreaking in the past because of all the warranty issues in addition to pretty much any device-related product / app usually saying "you're on your own" to customers with rooted or jailbroken devices.
Not a huge issue for me now, as my phone's warranty was voided when I had to send it in for "repairs" after it broke (ie got a replacement phone in exchange for my broken one from motorola).
I'm incredibly intrigued by the countless perks that come with rooting such as customization, permissions, turning off encryption, and so on. However, I love my phone the way it currently is, and as a result am a bit hesitant to set it all up again / risk messing something up since I would need to learn how to do it (ie read one of the many useful guides on these forums).
Besides having better control over every part of the phone, the other main appeal of rooting for me is being able to get rid of the AT&T bloatwear on the phone. I absolutely hate AT&T and would love to rid myself of their presence in my life, even if just by a small amount.
So the issue is:
currently very content with my non-rooted N6 vs. love customizing / controlling everything on my device and hate AT&T with a burning passion, but would have to spend ample time learning how to properly root the phone / set everything up.
If anyone has any opinions I'm all ears. Do you know of a reason I should definitely not root the device that I'm unaware of? Did rooting your phone make your experience with your device so much better that you wouldn't even consider going back to a non-rooted device?
Opinions / thoughts are welcomed as I am pretty much just thinking out loud with this thread anyways :laugh:
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Reasons i rooted.
1. titanium backup
2. MCR Control (Reverse order of nav buttons. my thumb is too short for back button and i use one handed)
(double tap to wake)
(battery percent in notif bar)
3. Notification light (light flow enables it)
4. Cabinet beta or root browswer
I might be missing something... but those things benefit me on the daily.
this thread should go into the help/q&a section, not into general..
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Read every post on rooting and watch every video at least two times. Download all files to a folder on your desktop ask all the questions you need to ask then jump in. A phone with an unlocked boot loader is the best place to start rooting. If your phone boot loops cause you messed something up don't worry you can come back from that.
lngwca said:
Reasons i rooted.
1. titanium backup
2. MCR Control (Reverse order of nav buttons. my thumb is too short for back button and i use one handed)
(double tap to wake)
(battery percent in notif bar)
3. Notification light (light flow enables it)
4. Cabinet beta or root browswer
I might be missing something... but those things benefit me on the daily.
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1. I think I already bought that app months ago on accident haha maybe I can finally use it if I root.
2. left handed here, didn't even realize how much of an issue it would be if the button was on the other side, that would be a must if I was right handed lol. Also double tap to wake is something I would love to have.
3. I miss that ittle light, then I saw the LED light when I dropped my first N6 and the screen shattered..not how I wanted to be reunited with it lol. Wouldn't mind seeing it without having to shatter my screen :laugh:
all very helpful, thanks!
bulvine420 said:
Hard part is getting drivers installed but there is an all in one tool kit that does it all for you. Stalk lollipop is missing lots of key features like kill all apps button, and free hot spot. Roms fix this also having all volume sliders is great.
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volume sliders is pretty high up there on the list of reasons I am so tempted to undertake the project of learning how to root. From what I've read so far it seems there are two methods for rooting that most people use, one of which is the all in one tool kit you mentioned? I'll have to check it out in more detail.
bulvine420 said:
Read every post on rooting and watch every video at least two times. Download all files to a folder on your desktop ask all the questions you need to ask then jump in. A phone with an unlocked boot loader is the best place to start rooting. If your phone boot loops cause you messed something up don't worry you can come back from that.
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that would be the plan if I end up rooting. When it comes to tech I get fairly OCD about knowing it all before I start fiddling with something. I've irreversibly broken enough programs / gadgets in my time to know that the slow and studious approach always wins
planning on going through the guides and videos on these forums with a fine-tooth comb once I've had more coffee lol.
phallb said:
I never rooted / jailbroke any previous devices but can't make up my mind on whether to do it with my N6.
I primarily never fiddled with rooting / jailbreaking in the past because of all the warranty issues in addition to pretty much any device-related product / app usually saying "you're on your own" to customers with rooted or jailbroken devices.
Not a huge issue for me now, as my phone's warranty was voided when I had to send it in for "repairs" after it broke (ie got a replacement phone in exchange for my broken one from motorola).
I'm incredibly intrigued by the countless perks that come with rooting such as customization, permissions, turning off encryption, and so on. However, I love my phone the way it currently is, and as a result am a bit hesitant to set it all up again / risk messing something up since I would need to learn how to do it (ie read one of the many useful guides on these forums).
Besides having better control over every part of the phone, the other main appeal of rooting for me is being able to get rid of the AT&T bloatwear on the phone. I absolutely hate AT&T and would love to rid myself of their presence in my life, even if just by a small amount.
So the issue is:
currently very content with my non-rooted N6 vs. love customizing / controlling everything on my device and hate AT&T with a burning passion, but would have to spend ample time learning how to properly root the phone / set everything up.
If anyone has any opinions I'm all ears. Do you know of a reason I should definitely not root the device that I'm unaware of? Did rooting your phone make your experience with your device so much better that you wouldn't even consider going back to a non-rooted device?
Opinions / thoughts are welcomed as I am pretty much just thinking out loud with this thread anyways :laugh:
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You have made your mind up already, if you on the fence, your ready to root!
Read http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481 and this http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-flash-factory-images-nexus-6shamu-t2954008
Download one of the adb/fastboot lite zips, I will look for one for you (try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42407269#post42407269), it just loads whet you need. Then make sure you can connect to your phone, read the 2 links and after some minor settings to your phone, plug it into your PC, go to the dir you dl'ed adb/fastboot to and do "fastboot devices" if you see your device your ready to go. It may not be as easy as that, but its a 1x setup and sometimes it is that easy. Don't use an "all-in-one" tool, you won't learn anything and when you need to know exactly what step to do and you can't use a tool, you will be stuck, its not that complex.
Unlock; you will have to set everything up again, sorry. But if your gonna un-encrypt, do it now. Then root and flash a custom recovery, TWRP. Once you have that setup, boot into the recovery and do a backup. Boom, you can always flash that and your back to where you were. Now try some roms, I'm partial to BlissPop, so many features its insane, I'm also partial to Lean kernel, but Franco is great, but try em out. Flash the Rom/Kernel, you don't like it, restore your backup and your ready to start again.
If your on this site, your hooked, just do it and you won't be sorry, well you may get hooked and become a crack rom'er.
Ehem, crack. Flasher.
I have owned a LOT of phones. I used to root all of them. I haven't bothered with the N6. Just no need for me with 5/L.
I have also found that many times rooting has had adverse affects on the device that outweigh any benefits. Just me though.
thepolishguy said:
I have owned a LOT of phones. I used to root all of them. I haven't bothered with the N6. Just no need for me with 5/L.
I have also found that many times rooting has had adverse affects on the device that outweigh any benefits. Just me though.
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I feel the same way. I owned a galaxy nexus. I was a notorious crack flasher and ultimately in the end the device stopped turning on. Being that lollipop is incredibly buggy, I'm going to stay away from flashing.
I've never rooted before myself until now on the n6 and I really can't go back to no root. For me it was mainly for adaway, greenify, and titanium backup. But now that I've used them I don't care much for greenify and titanium, but adaway alone is worth it. I also discovered the super awesome LMT pie plus removing the soft keys, that's one mod I can't live without now.
Seiga said:
Being that lollipop is incredibly buggy, I'm going to stay away from flashing.
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I would think this would be one of the reasons TO flash.
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jackpollard said:
You have made your mind up already, if you on the fence, your ready to root!
If your on this site, your hooked, just do it and you won't be sorry, well you may get hooked and become a crack rom'er.
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I stumbled upon this site from another.. Once I started reading and seeing what could be done and more reading, I had to try it. I love the ease at which it was rooted; thank you Chainfire... The tricks it does are amazing. :good:
thanks everyone, as some have guessed I think I'm leaning towards rooting at this point. Just need to read up so I know what I'm doing and then find the time to sit down and do it.
All of your feedback and personal experiences / suggestions is really helpful since I'm so new to this topic (rooting and all it entails). Please feel free to keep the opinions, favorite apps / features / why you root or dont root, etc coming.
I've decided not to root at this time, maybe down the road though I'm sure I will. Being on Sprint, my previous phones were the Hero, Evo 4G and then the Note 2, I found myself rooted and running roms soon after buying the phones. My only problem(if it was a problem) I was bored of Sense and Touchwiz rather quickly and loaded up aosp roms within a month or two of owning the phones. Hence why I now have the Nexus 6.
It'll be nice for awhile to not worry about small bugs with my phone, changing kernels, setups.... not that anything runs without bugs but at least I won't worry about it as much.
But if you're interested in having complete control over the phone, I would root asap!!
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