Hello everyone, I have a wonderfull Nexus 6, and I've see some infos and videos that N6 can resist underwater. I wanna try this at home, and first time in my bathroom it work, but no sound on phone next, and the same day I've try to put only camera (phone was up-is-down) in swimming pool (that have salt inside), and it shut down.
So next I've clean it with normal water from bathroom, and let it 3 days, but it still won't wake up...
I don't have something to open the back case, so I can't see anything inside.
So do you think it's dead, or I can try some tips to see if it's dead or not ?
Thanks a lot.
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Hello everyone, I have a wonderfull Nexus 6, and I've see some infos and videos that N6 can resist underwater.
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N6 can't resist under water.
Still wet; put it in the sun.
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Hello everyone, I have a wonderfull Nexus 6, and I've see some infos and videos that N6 can resist underwater. I wanna try this at home, and first time in my bathroom it work, but no sound on phone next, and the same day I've try to put only camera (phone was up-is-down) in swimming pool (that have salt inside), and it shut down.
So next I've clean it with normal water from bathroom, and let it 3 days, but it still won't wake up...
I don't have something to open the back case, so I can't see anything inside.
So do you think it's dead, or I can try some tips to see if it's dead or not ?
Thanks a lot.
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To the best of my knowledge, the Nexus 6 phone is not waterproof nor water resistant...so I would have to say that...Yes...you Nexus 6 phone is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO_aTg1VU6k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxiRSDF0Ke0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJrzF-7e2IA
I thought it was waterproof, just wanna take 1 or 2 pics underwater, but with mine it didn't work... It's in my car since 3 days and it's sunny so it's really hot there, I'll try to charge it but I thought plugin to a computer can tell me if it's really dead or not... Thanks.
So let me get this straight... you watched a youtube video and then decided to dunk your **definitely not water proof** phone under water? LOL. You deserve a fried phone for believing a youtube video. That is very stupid.
The mainboard has a special paint on it to help protect it from *condensation* (that is dampness that forms on things when they are cold and you bring them into warm and humid air). NO part of it is water proof.
In addition, SALT water is electrically conductive. So not only did you drown the thing, you shorted it out.
Ok thanks for your answers. Pluged in to charge on PC but nothing happen. So I guess I can't do anything with this brick now
The phone isn't water proof, why would you even do that...
It's okay if you spill a bit of water on it, but not when you stick it in a swimming pool
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In addition, SALT water is electrically conductive.
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Water is conductive, salt or not.
Salt + water may be the cause of corrosive damage.
NLBeev said:
Water is conductive, salt or not.
Salt + water may be the cause of corrosive damage.
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To be more precise:
"Without the swapping of electrons, electricity is unable to travel through distilled water. Salt water, on the other hand, is considered a good conductor of electricity because it contains ions in it. Tap water, although it doesn't taste salty, can also conduct electricity because it isn't pure."
istperson said:
To be more precise:
"Without the swapping of electrons, electricity is unable to travel through distilled water.....
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I know what you mean. But don't forget how it is in practice. As soon distilled water enters electronic devices it will be contaminated with residues of corrosives and toxic materials like aniline, chlorides and things like that.
Avoid 'water' enters your phone.
Nice talking about this. Informative.
Thx.
Hello, today when pluged in to computer or else with USB, blue led wake's up and stay on as I show you on the picture. But when I plug in to his charger, it turns blue but turn off after 1 second...
Do you think it can not be dead, or it's just his last words before dying ?
Thanks.
The coroner took your Nexus 6, tagged it, and bagged it. Someone will take you shortly to the morgue so you can identify the body.
best thing to do next time, is to dry the phone and stick it in some isopropyl alcohol (to try and get rid of the corrosion and stop it, if there is any), that's the best thing you can do, tip: never use rice, salt is also a bad idea, best thing would be to take out each part individually now, to see if it's one part stopping the phone from booting, sometimes one thing can cause it not to turn on including the screen, so you can also unplug the screen completely (know it's tricky) but unplug the screen as well and plug it in by usb to a pc and turn it on, see if you have any connection to it or if it shows up in device manager, if it still doesn't work after that, for the cost of the parts etc. plus time fitting, you may as well buy a second hand nexus 6 from ebay
This is what we do at the place I work at, you wouldn't believe the amount of water damaged iphones, android phones, ipads and tablets we get in....it's ridiculous...
disiz said:
Hello everyone, I have a wonderfull Nexus 6, and I've see some infos and videos that N6 can resist underwater. I wanna try this at home, and first time in my bathroom it work, but no sound on phone next, and the same day I've try to put only camera (phone was up-is-down) in swimming pool (that have salt inside), and it shut down.
So next I've clean it with normal water from bathroom, and let it 3 days, but it still won't wake up...
I don't have something to open the back case, so I can't see anything inside.
So do you think it's dead, or I can try some tips to see if it's dead or not ?
Thanks a lot.
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Hi, the Nexus 6 is NOT waterproof, you've probably killed your phone, try putting it in a bag of rice overnight. (But it's more than likely dead.)
I've already try some things, but no sucess, even if today this blue led can be a good news, but nothing happen when connected to computer, or plug off and pressing on/off +vol up+vol down.
So I've already command another N6 from same ebay site, but if my old N6 can revive it's good news, but I don't think so...
The blue LED may be indicative of a depleted battery. How about now connecting the phone to a charger for a few hours and see if the battery will charge.
Where did you read that it was waterproof? It's never been advertised as that...
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Ok thanks for your answers. Pluged in to charge on PC but nothing happen. So I guess I can't do anything with this brick now
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You can build a 'brick' house with it.
disiz said:
Hello everyone, I have a wonderfull Nexus 6, and I've see some infos and videos that N6 can resist underwater. I wanna try this at home, and first time in my bathroom it work, but no sound on phone next, and the same day I've try to put only camera (phone was up-is-down) in swimming pool (that have salt inside), and it shut down.
So next I've clean it with normal water from bathroom, and let it 3 days, but it still won't wake up...
I don't have something to open the back case, so I can't see anything inside.
So do you think it's dead, or I can try some tips to see if it's dead or not ?
Thanks a lot.
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Accidentally dropped in water about 2 days after buying it. It got replaced by flipkart[India] from which i had bought and the video showing that Shamu is waterproof is a fake video. I guess.
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The blue LED may be indicative of a depleted battery. How about now connecting the phone to a charger for a few hours and see if the battery will charge.
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I wanna try this today, so I'll take a look when charging some hours if someting happen, but for now no more blue led.
And even on GSMarena it says Nexus 6 is water resistant, but now I guess it's only against rain or else, not swiming pool
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So, my Xperia is brand new! And, obviously I've dipped it in water a couple of times.. mostly to cool it down. [because it gets heated up as heck!] Yesterday, in about 4 a.m. my phone was on charge and it got really hot. So I decided to dip it in water. I disconnected the charger and closed the charger flap. I put it in my pant pocket [bear in mind, my pants were a little tight] .. I took out my phone and without double checking i put it in a mug of water. The charger flap had become loose an when I took it out it might've opened and BAM! Red dye and ****ed up front camera. I FREAKED the heck out! Its a pricy phone and its hardly been a month and they have no warranty if it gets water damaged due to open flaps! Its even more pricy, where I live. But whatever, it was Still working okay.. except for the front camera. I searched some forums and found one that said that 'The water itself doesn't harm the phone, turning it on with water in it might' .. so I switched it off and kept it aside. I woke up today at about 1:00 p.m. and out of curiosity I turned it on. And THERE! The screen now went crazy, turned off and on by itself. The screen is okay because everytime i restart it [Power button + Volume up] it does show the 'Sony' and then 'Xperia' signs then the start up colourful thing does happen but then the screen goes black and the now I can't even switch it off! I did do the vacuum/hair dryer thing. What else can I do? I can't just let it go to waste! Its brand new! PLEASE HELP?! :crying:
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So, my Xperia is brand new! And, obviously I've dipped it in water a couple of times.. mostly to cool it down. [because it gets heated up as heck!] Yesterday, in about 4 a.m. my phone was on charge and it got really hot. So I decided to dip it in water. I disconnected the charger and closed the charger flap. I put it in my pant pocket [bear in mind, my pants were a little tight] .. I took out my phone and without double checking i put it in a mug of water. The charger flap had become loose an when I took it out it might've opened and BAM! Red dye and ****ed up front camera. I FREAKED the heck out! Its a pricy phone and its hardly been a month and they have no warranty if it gets water damaged due to open flaps! Its even more pricy, where I live. But whatever, it was Still working okay.. except for the front camera. I searched some forums and found one that said that 'The water itself doesn't harm the phone, turning it on with water in it might' .. so I switched it off and kept it aside. I woke up today at about 1:00 p.m. and out of curiosity I turned it on. And THERE! The screen now went crazy, turned off and on by itself. The screen is okay because everytime i restart it [Power button + Volume up] it does show the 'Sony' and then 'Xperia' signs then the start up colourful thing does happen but then the screen goes black and the now I can't even switch it off! I did do the vacuum/hair dryer thing. What else can I do? I can't just let it go to waste! Its brand new! PLEASE HELP?! :crying:
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Vacuum/hair-dryer are both bad ideas for electronics. The vacuum is bad because it creates a lot of static electricity, and the hair-dryer because, obviously, it heats the phone up to high temperatures.
What you should have done immediately was to turn it off, open all the flaps and put the phone in a bag of rice, letting the rice absorb the water for around a week or so (or at the very least 3-4 days), preferably with a drained/removed battery but this isn't really an option with Xperia Z. After this you need to make sure to get all the rice out before closing the flaps and starting it up.
Fingers crossed nothing has short circuited and/or corroded yet!
And using water to cool the phone, while it seems like a good idea, has to be the dumbest excuse for ruining your phone I've ever heard.
Take it for repair. That is your only option. You will have to pay because the water ingress indicator is red.
Learn from this and don't submerge the phone for no reason when or if you have it back from repair.
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Vacuum/hair-dryer are both bad ideas for electronics. The vacuum is bad because it creates a lot of static electricity, and the hair-dryer because, obviously, it heats the phone up to high temperatures.
What you should have done immediately was to open all the flaps and put the phone in a bag of rice and let the rice absorb the water for a week or so while off, preferably with a drained/removed battery but this isn't really an option with Xperia Z. After this you need to make sure to get all the rice out before closing the flaps and starting it up.
Fingers crossed nothing has short circuited and/or corroded yet!
And using water to cool the phone, while it seems like a good idea, has to be the dumbest excuse for ruining your phone I've ever heard.
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do what he said
Using water to cool the phone down? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRzso-PzuOM just an example.
Further, do what Rekoil said. Heard from a few people that it works, but be sure to leave it in there long enough! Don't try to turn it on/charge it earlier.
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Take it for repair. That is your only option. You will have to pay because the water ingress indicator is red.
Learn from this and don't submerge the phone for no reason when or if you have it back from repair.
Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk 2
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This. If it's going crazy then there's water shorting something. You're likely to end up with corroded components (and premature failure) if you don't get it professionally repaired.
THIS THREAD IS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE A WATER DAMAGED NEXUS 5, OR HAVE JUST DROPPED THEIR NEXUS 5 INTO WATER. READ NOTE BEFORE REPAIRING
NOTE: The water indicator (shown as the red square in the photos) is located just above the sim card tray. It is only a few millimeters away from the edge of the phone which makes it VERY SENSITIVE to water. It turns from white to pink/red if it has been exposed to water.
My phone dropped into the toilet and was submerged for only 0.5 -1 second. This was enough for the indicator to go off. If you do not want to open up the phone, check the sim card as mine had small pink/red residue on it after I took out the sim card.
The location of the indicator makes it very easy for the indicator to go off. I can easily see how rain, extreme humidity, or even a small pool of tap water could make it go off if the sim tray is not inserted properly, let alone if it was submerged.
Helpful Resources/Guides: Nexus 5 dropped in toilet, recovered: http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1wf4gu/guess_who_dropped_their_nexus_5_in_the_toilet_a/
Nexus 5 water repair SUCCESS STORY: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618121
How to open Nexus 5: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016
Opening Nexus 5 (more detailed) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542873
Repair guide (some steps are controversial, caution) : http://www.reddit.com/r/LifeProTips/comments/1npt9v/this_actually_works_if_you_drop_your_phone_in/
REPAIRS:
Read links/stories above for steps to recover Nexus 5, my method has not proved successful thus far. Please read the thread for other methods too.
The general consensus is to:
1. MOST IMPORTANT: Turn the off phone immediately. If your phone is off, don't attempt to turn it on or you will risk damaging the internals.
2. Use a cloth/paper towel to immediately soak up water around phone.
If you do not want to open up the phone for warranty purposes:
3. Place phone in an airtight container with activated silica gels, or with rice for few days.
Note: This is not the best method if the phone was submerged for a relatively long period or if you spilt coffee/soft drink on your phone. There is a high risk of corrosion with this as the water may be trapped inside for a long period of time causing internal parts to corrode. Other methods have proven more successful. Alternatively people have had success (in this thread, please read) by drying out their phones via traditional methods like using blowdryers etc. when the device was exposed to water for a SHORT period of time. Make sure you err on the side of caution when using heating methods as to not damage the internals, never use anything that would make the device too hot.
OR
If you don't mind opening up phone (fairly certain indicator has gone off and want to void warranty). If I could go back in time I would probably use this method:
3. Open up the phone by prying off the back (method in the link above), remove the battery and carefully assess the areas and components that have collected water. Remove the water and dry it out as much as possible. This may be enough if the phone was not fully submerged.
For more serious cases: For coke/coffee/saltwater or if the phone has just been sitting there a long time after water exposure:
- A lot of people have had success by washing the phone with deionised water first and then submerging it in pure ethanol (without battery). This serves to clean the phone of the contaminants and to prevent corrosion. (especially if you dunked in it coffee/soft drink). Theoretically the water/ethanol would not conduct electricity due to the lack of impurities in them.
-If you have left the phone untouched for a while without cleaning it, there may be some build up of corrosion. People suggest scrubbing the white corroded area off using small/light brush strokes of a soft bristled toothbrush either after the wash phase (deionised water) or just after the submerging phase (ethanol)
Many different methods suggested in links above. Make sure you read through the thread, there are various success stories here too.
My case:
As soon as I dropped it into the toilet, I turned it off straight away. I dried it off with a paper towel and stuck it in rice for a few days. Then I moved to a sealed container of silica crystals for about 5 days. Then I let it dry on table for another 2. Then it did not turn on, unresponsive. Did not charge or get recognised via USB. This was probably not an optimal repair method. The methods above may be more useful. But if you know the indicator has gone off, it would be best to open up the case straight away to drain the water out.
Then I opened up my Nexus 5 (after a week of deciding what to do). I could see small amount of corrosion around the sim tray area, usb insert area and others around the phone. Then I dipped the motherboard and into a bowl of isopropyl, enough to submerge it for 5-10 minutes. Then used gentle movements of a toothbrush to focus on corroded areas. I am now just letting it dry.
I will update this thread if the repairs are successful.
Update: Phone is still unresponsive, it may be that the battery is dead or one of the parts do not work at all. Any suggestions?
UPDATE 2: Ended up just buying a new Nexus 5 back in March, old one is just sitting here in the cupboard still unresponsive. I may try to buy a battery to see if it's a battery problem but for now I'll just leave it. Not sure if it would sell much for parts.
Please feel free to post other helpful resources or your own experiences on saving a water damaged nexus 5.
NOTE: I am from Australia. The cost to repair a water damaged Nexus 5 was a fixed cost of $290 AUD (16 or 32gb) if you send the phone to manufacturer (LG). Water damage is not covered under warranty but LG still accepts repairs out of warranty at a fixed price. The lady on the phone said that they would replace the motherboard. Opening up your device will void your warranty so please be aware of this before you try to repair it.
NOTE 2: If you live in the US, google has confirmed it does one time replacements no matter what. Read below: http://gizmodo.com/google-will-apparently-replace-your-nexus-5-no-matter-h-1630258357
You did it wrong. You must pull battery asap, and clean evening with alcohol
I feel this needs to be asked, had you conducted business before your phone went for a swim in the porcelain pool? ;D
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You did it wrong. You must pull battery asap, and clean evening with alcohol
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At the time I was still considering whether to send it back for repairs. Pulling the battery out requires taking the phone apart and voiding warranty. But looking back I probably should have opened it up straight away.
Phone is still unresponsive, is there any way to check which individual module or part of the phone doesn't work? I have a feeling some are working while others are not. Do electronic repairs shops have tools to test this?
Parts are easy to obtain: http://www.etradesupply.com/lg/android-models/lg-nexus-5.html but it is just a matter of knowing which part to get, that is assuming the main motherboard/CPU is still functioning.
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Phone is still unresponsive, is there any way to check which individual module or part of the phone doesn't work? I have a feeling some are working while others are not. Do electronic repairs shops have tools to test this?
Parts are easy to obtain: http://www.etradesupply.com/lg/android-models/lg-nexus-5.html but it is just a matter of knowing which part to get, that is assuming the main motherboard/CPU is still functioning.
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When you say phone is unresponsive do you mean that it won't come on at all?
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When you say phone is unresponsive do you mean that it won't come on at all?
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Yeah it didn't turn on after I took it out from the silica gels. Also after I cleaned/submerged the phone parts in isopropyl and reassembled it doesn't turn on at all. I tried plugging into computer too but it didn't work either.
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Yeah it didn't turn on after I took it out from the silica gels. Also after I cleaned/submerged the phone parts in isopropyl and reassembled it doesn't turn on at all. I tried plugging into computer too but it didn't work either.
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The computer did not recognize the phone? Most times when a phone is off the computer would at least make a sound once plugged in. How was your battery life before the incident? Was the phone almost dead?
I would probably take the phone back apart, clean it one more time with the alcohol and a soft brush toothbrush, dry it with a blow dryer (on its coolest setting so you don't damage anything) and then put it back together.
Use this site as a guide and do a side by side comparison. Maybe you forgot to plug a cable back in. http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016
Good luck!
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The computer did not recognize the phone? Most times when a phone is off the computer would at least make a sound once plugged in. How was your battery life before the incident? Was the phone almost dead?
I would probably take the phone back apart, clean it one more time with the alcohol and a soft brush toothbrush, dry it with a blow dryer (on its coolest setting so you don't damage anything) and then put it back together.
Use this site as a guide and do a side by side comparison. Maybe you forgot to plug a cable back in. http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016
Good luck!
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No I tried it on a few computers, didn't manage to make it get a sound or anything. Battery life was normal before I dropped it. I can't remember what percentage it was on exactly when I dropped it, if I had to guess i think it was on 10-30%?
Yeah I'll give it another go with the cleaning. Should I submerge the screen in isopropyl too? I've only done the motherboard, bottom grill and cables so far. I left the battery out.
Also with the brushing I'm scared I'll break something: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QHn3ItE7ME But am i meant to use as much force as this guy in the video? I was way more gentle than that
If its a soft tooth brush and only a soft tooth brush then I'd say go in for the kill. Lol. That's about how much force I used on my Galaxy Nexus when it had water damage and I recovered it with no issues at all! Use your discretion though. Use as much force as your comfortable with and make sure to thoroughly dry it. I'd also clean the battery connector but with a DRY brush. Maybe that's where the issue lay.
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Were there number 2 floaters when you dropped it? Did you soak it in rose water?
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yeh found a couple of mars bars on the screen when I took it out and mountain dew dripping from the sides.
haha nah it was clean at the time, just fell in from the towel rack
Phone probably short circuited when powered on
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Little bit of trolling, sorry,
Feel really sorry for the guy who lost his nexus 5 coz of water damage, but I couldn't help but giggle at times at the process he was making himself go through trying to save the nexus, all because of a 0.5 to 1 second of water. Here is the process that I went through with my phone.
Dropped my Xperia Z Ultra a few days ago in a bubble bath tub, then spent about 5 - 8 seconds just looking for it, because of the bubbles.
Then I found it, Wiped it off immediately on my chest, it was soaked, then I turned it on. then I got into the bath tub with it, then watched some YouTube, visited xda forums, after that decided to watch some porn, then my wife started banging at the door "what the hell are you watching!?" then I got out, Wiped phone with towel. Then ate some chicken with rice, with my phone next to it not inside it.
Anyway think the nexus 5 is a gorgeous phone, that I would of have definitely wanted it if I hadn't experienced relaxing bath tub times, that all started with the original xperia z.
I still envy people that I had seen using it, I think it's the most beautifully designed phone ever created. With Sony and Htc as close second.
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Phone probably short circuited when powered on
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Are the chances of a short circuit fairly high in circumstances like this? Any way to confirm if all components are dead? I'm assuming that would probably kill off the motherboard/cpu so cleaning it won't do much in that case. But might i'll give it another clean just in case
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Wiped it off immediately on my chest, it was soaked, then I turned it on. then I got into the bath tub with it, then watched some YouTube, visited xda forums, after that decided to watch some porn, then my wife started banging at the door "what the hell are you watching!?" then I got out, Wiped phone with towel. Then ate some chicken with rice, with my phone next to it not inside it.
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LOL cheers man, i'll be sure to quote that at my nexus's funeral to remind it of the life it could've lived
How about getting wet with Salt Water !
Hi all, great thread, glad I found it. Want to hear another "got wet" story?
My Nexus 5 (and an iphone5) was in an Outdoor Products "dry sack" on an ocean boat ride in Brazil. This one at outdoorproducts.com, their 3-pack-ultimate-dry-sack
Caution! It was properly sealed, but still let saltwater in through the seams from splashes. The phones basically sloshed around in a cup of water before I knew it. Defective or wrong material to trust. In any case, the phone didn't work after, dead. To repeat, neither phone was ever submerged or dunked.
So I didn't have any isopropyl alcohol, but here they have something similar, ethyl alcohol (for cleaning, usually 46% solution). I knew that the rest was "hydrated" so I searched for a more pure form; found a 98% bottle. It is very hard to find (banned from sale because flammable) but I found a source. So I submerged the phones in this ethyl alcohol for 5 min. then let them sit in rice inside one of this company's "dry boxes" (which I should've used instead, kick to rear).
After 2 days, my Nexus 5 turns on! And, charges... and connects to wifi and receives messages. but the phone screen is like a tie-dye t-shirt. "Touches" won't unlock the screen, so I can't access apps to retrieve data. And, the phone won't connect over USB to the Android file manager.
I'm hoping a technician/hacker back in MA can open the phone, take out the 16gb internal storage (Sandisk SDIN8DE4 16 GB NAND flash) and get my valuable photos/videos off !
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I was just googling... from ifixit's forum a moderator said that it was possible to read data from a NAND chip. He mentioned some sites, and from their I found a data firm, eprovided.com -- fyi this is no endorsement. I'll have to call them Monday to see if they can do chips from wet phones!
@placker have you tried hooking it to a different computer? Have you had the android file manager connected with this device before this incident, or did you install it just now? Have you tried booting to fastboot?
Just curious if it recognizes via fastboot
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@AndroidSlave
thanks for the reply -- the phone had previously worked fine with the Android File Manager (used on Mac). That was my big hope... but alas no.
I don't know how to do fastboot... I've started/hard-shutdown the thing many times. Believe it or not, the phone's alarm clock just went of at 8pm. No way to shut if off since I can't bypass [what I think is] the lock screen. I can see the wacked video screen changing in response button presses of volume or the 10-second power button press.
I'll google the technique...
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thanks for the reply -- the phone had previously worked fine with the Android File Manager (used on Mac). That was my big hope... but alas no.
I don't know how to do fastboot... I've started/hard-shutdown the thing many times. Believe it or not, the phone's alarm clock just went of at 8pm. No way to shut if off since I can't bypass [what I think is] the lock screen. I can see the wacked video screen changing in response button presses of volume or the 10-second power button press.
I'll google the technique...
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Do you have a PC in your home? I am curious to see if anything gets recognized on a PC. My Mac (I am a Mac user) is finicky while my windows device works fine.
If u can get it recognized in fastboot you may be able to pull your data without issue...
If I were you I would first see if I could get it to be recognized on a windows PC
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Hi,
My daughter managed to get her xperia T properly soaked! (in a school bag with a leaking water bottle)
When she got home it was dead.
I put it in rice for 3 days
It then started, but with a flashing screen...booted fully but the screen flickered on and off. After a while it went out completely.
I left it in rice for another 5 days.
Now it wont start at all.
When I connect it to a wall charger I get the RED led - the LED stays RED even when charged overnight.
Sometimes when charging the LED goes off and stays off until I unplug and replug to the charger.
When not plugged in, if I press and hold the power button the LED flashes twice, then pauses, then twice again.
There is no vibration, or evidence of reset when I hold the power button (inc, holding with up or down vol buttons).
When I plugged it in to a PC, it said "installing drivers" and claimed to have installed "USB input device" drivers successfully (!)
Sony PC companion, nor Flashtool recognizes the device.
Both occasionally "think" for a moment - the spinning circle appears in PC companion)
Flashtool reports:
01/053/2014 10:53:55 - INFO - Device connected with USB debugging off
01/053/2014 10:53:55 - INFO - For 2011 devices line, be sure you are not in MTP mode
01/054/2014 10:54:00 - INFO - Device disconnected
but it ends with flashtool and companion claiming no devices are connected.
I suspect we are just plain dead, but thought it was worth asking in case anyone has any other ideas.
Not sure if it is a dead battery and worth trying to replace, or if the phone is fried and dead, or if there is some trick I have not tried.
Thanks
K
When my sister dropped her xperia neo down the toilet (lovely right?!) it had a similar issue of the red light, but I actually managed to fix it, although I still don't know how
Basically I took the phone apart and unplugged some components made sure everything was dry, and played around with the phone and tried connecting the battery while it was uncased. Eventually it would charge and all I had to do was replace the screen (which got totally destroyed by the water) for a fully functioning phone again.
So yeah I'd recommend taking the back off at least (very easy to do on the Xperia T, just unscrew the screw under the SIM flap and use a credit card or something with an edge to unclip around the edge). and try taking out the battery and make sure everything IS DRY (I think what was happening in my case is that a little water was still in between components and so was short circuiting them, you could even try again leaving it in rice with the back off. Find an instruction manual or youtube video for more detailed disassembly. But yeah all I can really recommend is just try trouble shooting playing around with the phone (I spent a good couple of hours playing around with it)
good luck
adsada arc said:
When my sister dropped her xperia neo down the toilet (lovely right?!) it had a similar issue of the red light, but I actually managed to fix it, although I still don't know how
Basically I took the phone apart and unplugged some components made sure everything was dry, and played around with the phone and tried connecting the battery while it was uncased. Eventually it would charge and all I had to do was replace the screen (which got totally destroyed by the water) for a fully functioning phone again.
So yeah I'd recommend taking the back off at least (very easy to do on the Xperia T, just unscrew the screw under the SIM flap and use a credit card or something with an edge to unclip around the edge). and try taking out the battery and make sure everything IS DRY (I think what was happening in my case is that a little water was still in between components and so was short circuiting them, you could even try again leaving it in rice with the back off. Find an instruction manual or youtube video for more detailed disassembly. But yeah all I can really recommend is just try trouble shooting playing around with the phone (I spent a good couple of hours playing around with it)
good luck
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Yes that's basically how you'd do it, but I wouldn't recommend he take it apart, unless he was a 100% sure he could do it.
Take off the back and put the phone in a warm dry place and leave science do its job.
"To give up is a sign of your weaknesses, but to keep going is a sign of madness"
Remove the back cover and use a hairdryer to remove all the humidity.
I would have never tried to power on without being sure that all water was removed.
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Yes that's basically how you'd do it, but I wouldn't recommend he take it apart, unless he was a 100% sure he could do it.
Take off the back and put the phone in a warm dry place and leave science do its job.
"To give up is a sign of your weaknesses, but to keep going is a sign of madness"
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I would actually disagree, because I have taken this phone apart and it is probably one of the easiest I have come across in a phone with no removable battery, and unless the OP intends to send it away for a likely costly repair this is really the only option which has a shot of repairing the phone!
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I would actually disagree, because I have taken this phone apart and it is probably one of the easiest I have come across in a phone with no removable battery, and unless the OP intends to send it away for a likely costly repair this is really the only option which has a shot of repairing the phone!
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So have I I still wouldn't recommend anyone take there phone apart.
istux said:
Remove the back cover and use a hairdryer to remove all the humidity.
I would have never tried to power on without being sure that all water was removed.
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Why didn't I think of a hairdryer lol, but gotta watch I used to use these to reflux ps3 boards because I couldn't afford a heat gun
"To give up is a sign of your weaknesses, but to keep going is a sign of madness"
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Why didn't I think of a hairdryer lol
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Because you're not vain enough or maybe you're just bold
I remember reading somewhere that they recommend against using a hairdryer, as it can force water to evaporate further into components or something
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I remember reading somewhere that they recommend against using a hairdryer, as it can force water to evaporate further into components or something
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Yeah ppl who do that can't use a hairdryer lol, I'm sure your meant to hold a hairdryer quite a bit away, this meaning it shouldn't move the water.
Yes unfortunately I am going bold haha
"To give up is a sign of your weaknesses, but to keep going is a sign of madness"
A hairdryer turns the liquid water into steam, which is able to spread much easier in the whole phone.
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A hairdryer turns the liquid water into steam, which is able to spread much easier in the whole phone.
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Ahh OK, I always knew they could melt the solder on the board but never really hurt the phone if you hold it far enough away as your warming the air around it, but guess I was wrong.
So yeah back to what I said in the first place, take off the back and put it in a dry warm place, and if your clever enough to have some silicone packs that they put in shoe boxes lying around place it on top. The reason for the silicone pack is that it stops moisture in the air around it, this will make the water evaporation from the phone work better.
"To give up is a sign of your weaknesses, but to keep going is a sign of madness"
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A hairdryer turns the liquid water into steam, which is able to spread much easier in the whole phone.
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Not so easy dude
In this case there are two factors that remove the humidity:
1) the temperature: a hotter air can hold more humidity
2) the kinetic energy: the movement of the air moves the humidity out of the phone
The only risk is about a too strong air movement, that could give a push to the water drop before evaporation. In this case, it's enough if you don't go too close with the hairdryer.
Let's make it clear, what you're saying is not wrong, but it's about another situation... in fact it happens when the water is got warm till the evaporation and H2O molecules can win the pressure of the air which, without wind and inside an enclosed space, goes fast to humidity saturation, therefore water will condense over any colder surface.
An example: when a phone is NOT open and it get warm from an external source (like also a hairdyer): water evaporates and the air inside the phone can't move, so water molecules go everywhere inside the device.
Instead, when a phone is open and a hairdryer points to the internal components, the hotter air "steals" molecules from the surface of the water drops (we can say it's another kind of evaporation) and goes away...
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Not so easy dude
In this case there are two factors that remove the humidity:
1) the temperature: a hotter air can hold more humidity
2) the kinetic energy: the movement of the air moves the humidity out of the phone
The only risk is about a too strong air movement, that could give a push to the water drop before evaporation. In this case, it's enough if you don't go too close with the hairdryer.
Let's make it clear, what you're saying is not wrong, but it's about another situation... in fact it happens when the water is got warm till the evaporation and H2O molecules can win the pressure of the air which, without wind and inside an enclosed space, goes fast to humidity saturation, therefore water will condense over any colder surface.
An example: when a phone is NOT open and it get warm from an external source (like also a hairdyer): water evaporates and the air inside the phone can't move, so water molecules go everywhere inside the device.
Instead, when a phone is open and a hairdryer points to the internal components, the hotter air "steals" molecules from the surface of the water drops (we can say it's another kind of evaporation) and goes away...
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Sorry, my scientific English is rather limited. But yea, I understand
The problem is just the possibility of this humid air to reach other parts of the device, that used to be dry before. There it might cool down and become unable to store that much water, with the result that the water is spread all across the device parts.
Anyway, let's stop this offtopic. Even though it's somehow fun.
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Haha such a long explanation for a simple process istux, like it.
"To give up is a sign of your weaknesses, but to keep going is a sign of madness"
Put it into a bowl of rice for a day
I just got my phone 3 months ago, this is my first ever high end smartphone that my parents bought for me (costs $800 here in PH). Now, we went for a swimming, my phone is inside my pocket, then my cousin suddenly pushed me to the pool. My phone's flap (USB/micro sd part) was already not working because the rubber that holds it got removed. Then my phone died, I panicked for minutes, didn't know what to do, since I'm not in our home and I don't have any drier or anything. I tried to turn on the screen, it went back but it blacked out again. I removed the memory card and my sim card, I tried to blow it then let dry in the towel. After an hour, I put it in a bowl of rice to let it moist for two days as suggested by my Aunt. After like 2 hours, I checked my phone, it was warm (37-40 C maybe), it was still on, and it produce a sound for like every 5 mins. I turned it off by clicking the power button and the up volume together, it vibrated for three times, I put it again in the bowl.
Just right now I checked my phone, I turned it on. The Sony logo just appeared by a second then black, after that the android logo came up. When it got to the lockscreen for like 2 secs the screen suddenly shut down!
OMG what am I gonna do now? Is my phone already dead? This is so expensive my parents are gonna kill me . I need some help right now. I cant go to any service center of Sony right now because it's Holy Week here in the Philippines. Do you have any suggestions for me? (Sorry for my very long story and bad english)
Your phone is dead.
You fried it lol just power it off for minimum 24 hours in rice or silica gel and Do Not use a drier lol
Why would you power it on after only 2 hours?
Yes, do that for more than 24 hrs and pray. A lot.
Had this once with a S3, but it was never completely under water, just totally soaked from heavy rain while hiking. It worked until I smashed the screen two times in a short row.
As a sidenote: even if the Z3c is promoted as waterproof, I'd never take it close to any situation where it could get totally wet. Even if hiking and inside a case and my pockets I always put it in a ziplock bag if rain is to be expected...
I'm happily playing ingress on my phone in the pouring rain. No case, no ridiculous zip lock bag.
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tudork said:
I'm happily playing ingress on my phone in the pouring rain. No case, no ridiculous zip lock bag.
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We got a bad ass here #thuglife
Howlbeck said:
even if the Z3c is promoted as waterproof, I'd never take it close to any situation where it could get totally wet. Even if hiking and inside a case and my pockets I always put it in a ziplock bag if rain is to be expected...
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've read all day.
Return for guaranty.
It's supposed to be waterproof.
Mazzeru said:
Return for guaranty.
It's supposed to be waterproof.
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Obviously not with the flaps open...
luizlee86 said:
Obviously not with the flaps open...
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From what he said, they were closed, but defective. Which happens if you open them regularly to charge / connect to pc.
Defective flaps are also a motive to return. The phone is IP65/68. As such, it shouldn't be damaged in any way from continuous immersion before 3 meters.
Obviously if bootloader is still locked. (even so, I think a lawyer could force them to take the phone under warranty. The eula is quite vague about "modifying the phone")
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From what he said, they were closed, but defective. Which happens if you open them regularly to charge / connect to pc.
Defective flaps are also a motive to return. The phone is IP65/68. As such, it shouldn't be damaged in any way from continuous immersion before 3 meters.
Obviously if bootloader is still locked. (even so, I think a lawyer could force them to take the phone under warranty. The eula is quite vague about "modifying the phone")
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Yeah it is waterproof and a defective flap is a reason to get it fixed under warranty. But if you have a defective flap and you drop it in the water then Sony does not have to fix the whole phone.
Well, this is how it works here in Brazil.
Who pushed you in the water with a cell phone in your pocket? Why can't this be their fault?
Phone is likely bricked.
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Yes, do that for more than 24 hrs and pray. A lot.
Had this once with a S3, but it was never completely under water, just totally soaked from heavy rain while hiking. It worked until I smashed the screen two times in a short row.
As a sidenote: even if the Z3c is promoted as waterproof, I'd never take it close to any situation where it could get totally wet. Even if hiking and inside a case and my pockets I always put it in a ziplock bag if rain is to be expected...
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What? You put a waterproof phone in a ziplock bag?
I took my z3c swimming with me in my pocket in pools, the sea, and some waterfalls. Taking pictures and videos, the primary reason I bought it. No case, no ziplock bags and it's perfectly fine.
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've read all day.
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jerverg said:
What? You put a waterproof phone in a ziplock bag?
I took my z3c swimming with me in my pocket in pools, the sea, and some waterfalls. Taking pictures and videos, the primary reason I bought it. No case, no ziplock bags and it's perfectly fine.
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Good for you
However, better safe than sorry - regardless if some find it ridiculous, I don't care.
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Good for you
However, better safe than sorry - regardless if some find it ridiculous, I don't care.
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You shouldn't have bought a waterproof phone then.
But my Z3C was only 8 days old. Water drops got inside USB Flaps, even though it was closed properly, no damage, no nothing. I think it was some thread though. Tested it second time, as was good.
I did buy it because of a lot of things, none of them being waterproof...
I care for my gadgets as I don't buy them on a plan/budget but at full price. It's easy to get it for 1 EUR/USD or whatever and then complain if it gets destroyed because of "supplier promised, supplier has to fix it at no cost" mentality. Anyway, each to his own.
Not to extend a useless discussion, but I also buy my phones at full price, no network discount. And one of the reason I bought this phone is its resistance to water. I haven't swam with it yet, I'll be scared before I do, but rain... Even my Motorola razr maxx could take rain drops. This phone can easily take rain.
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I don't think it's useless, it shows how we care about our phones.
I agree, there is rain and rain. You call it a few drops, I call it getting soaked in heavy rain while outdoors for hours with no chance of cover. Eventually you will get soaked to the skin, including your gadgets.
If everybody here takes it to the shower, pool, sea or whatever - so be it. If it survives - good. If it doesn't: do not complain. Simple.
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I don't think it's useless, it shows how we care about our phones.
I agree, there is rain and rain. You call it a few drops, I call it getting soaked in heavy rain while outdoors for hours with no chance of cover. Eventually you will get soaked to the skin, including your gadgets.
If everybody here takes it to the shower, pool, sea or whatever - so be it. If it survives - good. If it doesn't: do not complain. Simple.
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If it doesn't survive when all precautions are taken (Flaps properly closed and dipped solely in Fresh water), Sony is liable, if they deny warranty then it's time for a lawyer.
I'm only a kid, they took me for granted with my Z1 (Defective screen and Speaker) until I threatened them with Legal consequences.
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From what he said, they were closed, but defective. Which happens if you open them regularly to charge / connect to pc.
Defective flaps are also a motive to return. The phone is IP65/68. As such, it shouldn't be damaged in any way from continuous immersion before 3 meters.
Obviously if bootloader is still locked. (even so, I think a lawyer could force them to take the phone under warranty. The eula is quite vague about "modifying the phone")
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It's rated for 1.5 meters, not 3.
I was doing the dishes and I had my laptop next to the sink, and my phone connected to it, using the phone's internet. I don't know how it happened, but somehow I pulled the USB cable and the phone went full submarine. My heart skipped a beat :crying: I pulled it out of the water, it was still working, so i started wiping it, and tested the camera, speakers, touchscreen, fingerprint, charging, and everything seemed to be okay except the USB connection :silly: whenever I connected the phone to the laptop I was getting "device not recognized" error. I started to worry a bit and then I remembered I have a heat gun. So I left it powered on, and placed the heat but at full blast (about 70° Celsius) and left it there for about 10 mins (both the phone and USB cable). And guess what! It worked! Fully functional oneplus 3 after being submerged in hot water.
Tl;dr I dropped my phone in hot water, dried it, and it still works!
i wouldnt tell here in general that the phone is water resistant.
maybe you were just lucky and took the phone out of the water really fast again, so it couldnt get deep inside the phone.
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i wouldnt tell here in general that the phone is water resistant.
maybe you were just lucky and took the phone out of the water really fast again, so it couldnt get deep inside the phone.
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It also depends if the water is somewhat salty or not. You could technically submerged the whole phone in distilled water for long and nothing would happen provided you dry it thoroughly after but if it falls into a toilet full of piss, good luck it'll most likely die right away. This phone is definitely not water resistant though.
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i wouldnt tell here in general that the phone is water resistant.
maybe you were just lucky and took the phone out of the water really fast again, so it couldnt get deep inside the phone.
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It's not certified as waterproof, but dropping it in water even for a fraction of a second makes is resistant to water.
Your lucky! It's not water proof! It's splash resistance using it in the rain is fine... Slight water also.. As long as there is no pressure no water will come inside..
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I was doing the dishes and I had my laptop next to the sink, and my phone connected to it, using the phone's internet. I don't know how it happened, but somehow I pulled the USB cable and the phone went full submarine. My heart skipped a beat :crying: I pulled it out of the water, it was still working, so i started wiping it, and tested the camera, speakers, touchscreen, fingerprint, charging, and everything seemed to be okay except the USB connection :silly: whenever I connected the phone to the laptop I was getting "device not recognized" error. I started to worry a bit and then I remembered I have a heat gun. So I left it powered on, and placed the heat but at full blast (about 70° Celsius) and left it there for about 10 mins (both the phone and USB cable). And guess what! It worked! Fully functional oneplus 3 after being submerged in hot water.
Tl;dr I dropped my phone in hot water, dried it, and it still works!
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Doing the dishes
It's just luck. Somehow water did not enter in youre phone, to the mainboard.
Sometimes you don't see the effect right away. You may get corrosion after a while. It happened to me with a camera.
A few drops of water got into the camera, now the image stabilization doesn't work well also the auto brightness...
So, sometimes it can take time until you see the resullt of your phone swimming with the dishes
NO. NO NO AND NO!!! The oneplus 3 is NOT water resistant!
I dropped an ipod touch and a cheap kyocera phone in a fish tank for 30 seconds, pulled it out and after a blowdry and rice soak, they both worked fine.. But by no means does that make them water resistant. Nothing saved them but the grace of God..
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MrWilsonxD said:
NO. NO NO AND NO!!! The oneplus 3 is NOT water resistant!
I dropped an ipod touch and a cheap kyocera phone in a fish tank for 30 seconds, pulled it out and after a blowdry and rice soak, they both worked fine.. But by no means does that make them water resistant. Nothing saved them but the grace of God..
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God saved your phone? Dang!
don't post this stuff. If it would be water resistant they would'd tell us for sure, it's a really great feature
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don't post this stuff. If it would be water resistant they would'd tell us for sure, it's a really great feature
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Mate, i never said that it is waterproof. And of course, i do not encourage anyone to go have a shower with it. There's a difference between water resistant and waterproof.
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Mate, i never said that it is waterproof. And of course, i do not encourage anyone to go have a shower with it. There's a difference between water resistant and waterproof.
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Exactly you must be really brain dead if you are actually going to try it.
Puddi_Puddin said:
Exactly you must be really brain dead if you are actually going to try it.
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Let natural selection do its thing :laugh:
Puddi_Puddin said:
God saved your phone? Dang!
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Yeah! ? I'd say so.
All I'm saying is when I dropped my phone and iPod in a giant fish tank, I thanked God my things were okay with no damage to them whatsoever. When by all indications, they should have been ruined. ??
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Maybe it was holy water.., that would explain...