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what would cause this odd error when i still have so much free?
found this answer on an other droid forum is it true?
"There is a bug that causes this error, but since 3 big companies are involved, none of them are going to fix it any time soon. Basically, app space is limited to some arbitrary amount and is not equal to the space available on your phone."
I suspect you may be low in system memory. Scroll down to the very bottom of the SD card & phone storage settings. How much available System memory do you have?
system memory is alway around 100Mb even with the space notification.
when I uninstall enough apps it does go away.
stopping open apps or services does not help.
You may want to reset your device. I had a similar problem once with my Atrix. 100mb is a low amount of system memory. I have over 400mb still available on my Thrill.
I have over 650mb left in system memory and its says I have insufficient space whenever I try to download any game around 40mb. I cleared the cache and it worked for one game.
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think i got it...
using ES task manager
memory T:442MB A:96MB =ram?
internal storage T:.98GB A:117MB =system nand or partition of internal sd?
sd card T:5.57GB A:3.92GB =internal sd card?
I have a 32GB external sd card.
I thought "system memory" under "SD card & phone storage settings" was RAM
but is seems to be what "ES task manager" reports as "internal storage"
why the hell is the android set up this way?
seems so ass backwards,
/ = system memory (root dir? is this a partition or seperate physical memory from the internal sd)
/sdcard/ = internal sd
/sdcard/_ExternalSD = external sdcard
What is being referred to as internal storage (or system memory) is where the apps are installed by default. You could try moving some apps to SD and it should help. However, I had a problem like this with my Atrix and I never could figure out what was using all the space, so I just did a factory reset. Of course, I used Titanium Backup first.
I've noticed that the thrill thinks the 4gb internal is an SD card and the actual SD card is labeled as "External" when you explore the files. I was thinking of doing a factory reset so I moved all my apps to SD, when I looked in file manager at my SD there was nothing there. I found them all in a folder called "SDCard" on my internal memory. This may have something to do with your issue.
TylDurden said:
I've noticed that the thrill thinks the 4gb internal is an SD card and the actual SD card is labeled as "External" when you explore the files. I was thinking of doing a factory reset so I moved all my apps to SD, when I looked in file manager at my SD there was nothing there. I found them all in a folder called "SDCard" on my internal memory. This may have something to do with your issue.
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You have 3 types of memory in the phone. There's your external SD (labeled as _External SD), Internal Phone Memory (internal SD), and System Memory (where by default apps are stored). You can move your apps to the internal SD if you desire and that's why it's showing a folder there with the apps in it.
Gr8Danes said:
You have 3 types of memory in the phone. There's your external SD (labeled as _External SD), Internal Phone Memory (internal SD), and System Memory (where by default apps are stored). You can move your apps to the internal SD if you desire and that's why it's showing a folder there with the apps in it.
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So what good does it do to put Apps on the internal SD?
TylDurden said:
So what good does it do to put Apps on the internal SD?
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So that it doesn't take up your system memory. If your system memory gets low, it won't let you install additional apps and may also slow down your phone.
Some people are saying that it is reporting wrong? No there actually is an SD card inside the phone and the one outside under the back plate.
To keep things straight:
System= Actual memory on the phone where apps are installed by default, moving to SD and uninstalling apps can create more space.
Internal= SDcard inside the phone where Apps are moved to when choosing move to SD also Alps will store data here and most downloads go here by default
External= The SDcard under backplate which you can access and change. A lot of apps will put backups here and if you choose SD storage in camera where your pics and vids will be. Usually this is set aside for actual personal storage of media and what not.
^ Is there a way to make the external SD card the default data storage? After installing some Gameloft games, my internal storage is already full (5.6 GBs is pathetic LG) but I still still have 2 more games (Dungeon Defenders and Spectral Souls) I want to install which take up about 2GB.
Killer Bee said:
^ Is there a way to make the external SD card the default data storage? After installing some Gameloft games, my internal storage is already full (5.6 GBs is pathetic LG) but I still still have 2 more games (Dungeon Defenders and Spectral Souls) I want to install which take up about 2GB.
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Not that I'm aware.
Urabewe said:
Some people are saying that it is reporting wrong? No there actually is an SD card inside the phone and the one outside under the back plate.
To keep things straight:
System= Actual memory on the phone where apps are installed by default, moving to SD and uninstalling apps can create more space.
Internal= SDcard inside the phone where Apps are moved to when choosing move to SD also Alps will store data here and most downloads go here by default
External= The SDcard under backplate which you can access and change. A lot of apps will put backups here and if you choose SD storage in camera where your pics and vids will be. Usually this is set aside for actual personal storage of media and what not.
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Close. System is where the OS and the system apps, the ones that come preinstalled are stored. The data partition is where market apps are stored. Installing apps from the market has no effect on the system partition. System apps cannot be moved to the sdcard, internal or otherwise. Its the apps on the /data partition that can be moves to the sdcard/internal storage.
Here's the breakdown:
System=619Mb (OS+system apps)
Internal (data)=1Gb (downloaded apps)
Internal SD=6gb (storage,a2sd)
External SD=8Gb (with included card).
LG claims 8gb internal space. All the above adds up to a little over 7.6gb. Leaving 60mb which is most likely the Cache partition.
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Hey, what's up? I bought my new Galaxy Note yesterday, and there are some things I don't understand. One of the first apps I installed was App2SD. The Note didn't came with an SD (today I bought one), but something appeared as SD Card. When in I entered to the app, I saw something very interesting. It said that the System storage was 2GB (??!?) and the SD (it didn't had any SD) was 11GB. Today I installed the SD (real) and the app still the SD was 11GB!!! I downloaded MI file explorer, to see better the storage and install some apps I moved to the SD, and when I entered to SD tab, there were folders of Camera, Downloads.. but I couldn't find any of my apps. Then I find the folder "external_sd" and I opened it. Yes, all the apks I moved to the SD were there. So, I thought , lets see the storage tab in Task manager menu. There appeared 3 things: the SD card (8gb), the system storage (2gb) and the USB storage (11gb). So, I realized that all downloads and photos were saving in the USB storage (that is part of the System storage I think). I could change where does the photos save, but no the downloads and apps. They are still saving in that USB storage. And something it was very strange: when I move to SD some apps (Zen Bound 2, 200MB) it appears in the SD but really small (200MB to 20MB) So, the questions are:
1. Can I change that the apps don't install in that USB storage?
2. Can I turn off that USB storage?
3. Why when I enter in Settings and I move an app to the SD, in app2sd appears like it was moved to the USB storage? Or it moved to the real SD?
4. Why the size of the apps change?
Thanks really
alancito10t
Hey, what's up? I bought my new Galaxy Note yesterday, and there are some things I don't understand. One of the first apps I installed was App2SD. The Note didn't came with an SD (today I bought one), but something appeared as SD Card. When in I entered to the app, I saw something very interesting. It said that the System storage was 2GB (??!?) and the SD (it didn't had any SD) was 11GB. Today I installed the SD (real) and the app still the SD was 11GB!!! I downloaded MI file explorer, to see better the storage and install some apps I moved to the SD, and when I entered to SD tab, there were folders of Camera, Downloads.. but I couldn't find any of my apps. Then I find the folder "external_sd" and I opened it. Yes, all the apks I moved to the SD were there. So, I thought , lets see the storage tab in Task manager menu. There appeared 3 things: the SD card (8gb), the system storage (2gb) and the USB storage (11gb). So, I realized that all downloads and photos were saving in the USB storage (that is part of the System storage I think). I could change where does the photos save, but no the downloads and apps. They are still saving in that USB storage. And something it was very strange: when I move to SD some apps (Zen Bound 2, 200MB) it appears in the SD but really small (200MB to 20MB) So, the questions are:
1. Can I change that the apps don't install in that USB storage?
2. Can I turn off that USB storage?
3. Why when I enter in Settings and I move an app to the SD, in app2sd appears like it was moved to the USB storage? Or it moved to the real SD?
4. Why the size of the apps change?
Thanks really
alancito10t
alancito10t said:
Hey, what's up? I bought my new Galaxy Note yesterday, and there are some things I don't understand. One of the first apps I installed was App2SD. The Note didn't came with an SD (today I bought one), but something appeared as SD Card. When in I entered to the app, I saw something very interesting. It said that the System storage was 2GB (??!?) and the SD (it didn't had any SD) was 11GB. Today I installed the SD (real) and the app still the SD was 11GB!!! I downloaded MI file explorer, to see better the storage and install some apps I moved to the SD, and when I entered to SD tab, there were folders of Camera, Downloads.. but I couldn't find any of my apps. Then I find the folder "external_sd" and I opened it. Yes, all the apks I moved to the SD were there. So, I thought , lets see the storage tab in Task manager menu. There appeared 3 things: the SD card (8gb), the system storage (2gb) and the USB storage (11gb). So, I realized that all downloads and photos were saving in the USB storage (that is part of the System storage I think). I could change where does the photos save, but no the downloads and apps. They are still saving in that USB storage. And something it was very strange: when I move to SD some apps (Zen Bound 2, 200MB) it appears in the SD but really small (200MB to 20MB) So, the questions are:
1. Can I change that the apps don't install in that USB storage?
2. Can I turn off that USB storage?
3. Why when I enter in Settings and I move an app to the SD, in app2sd appears like it was moved to the USB storage? Or it moved to the real SD?
4. Why the size of the apps change?
Thanks really
alancito10t
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Ok, that was a lot to read Ok, as far as Galaxy Note's Memory management is considered, the partition is as:
A. 2GB (1.97GB Precisely) : Acts as ROM
B. 11GB (11.07GB Precisely) : Acts as Internal SD Card
C. X GB (the memory card which you insert) : Acts as External SD Card
So, In A there are built in apps which comes with the ROM you flash.
In B There are apps which you install. The install Location is defined to be in B in your phone by default.
In C You can move the apps using some app such as App2SD or Android Assistant (which I prefer)
If you are concerned with big apps clogging your memory, read ahead:
You can allow your application to install on the device's external storage.
Some types of applications should not allow installation on the external storage.
Installing on the external storage is ideal for large applications that are not tightly integrated with the system (most commonly, games).
If you want to know how to do it, then reply back or PM me. I shall post here.
Hope this helps to clear some basic idea about memory.
Hello,
I tried to use Directory Bind, but when my internal memory was about 9GB free and I had moved about those 9GB to external SD, I cant anything install to internal memory(it is necessary first to move it with directory bind).
So the result was, that all moved games and applications were in internal memory despite the phone shows me 9GB of internal memory.
So, my question and big problem is:
How can I move games and apps to external SD card?
Have you some method, have can I done it?
Would be very grateful.
smoke2 said:
Hello,
I tried to use Directory Bind, but when my internal memory was about 9GB free and I had moved about those 9GB to external SD, I cant anything install to internal memory(it is necessary first to move it with directory bind).
So the result was, that all moved games and applications were in internal memory despite the phone shows me 9GB of internal memory.
So, my question and big problem is:
How can I move games and apps to external SD card?
Have you some method, have can I done it?
Would be very grateful.
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You can use the app of "GL to SD" found in the market, it can help you to move the game data (not apps) from internal memory to external sd card. The theory of this app is used to simulate the external sd card act as a internal memory card, thus, you need to activate this app before playing the game that you moved. Importantly, a rooted device is required.
the stupidity of LG it not use the external sdcard option that provide by android
event we force it to use that option in console mode using
pm set_install_location
that stupid LG still install the app/game in internal sdcard
hosamuel01 said:
You can use the app of "GL to SD" found in the market, it can help you to move the game data (not apps) from internal memory to external sd card. The theory of this app is used to simulate the external sd card act as a internal memory card, thus, you need to activate this app before playing the game that you moved. Importantly, a rooted device is required.
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Thank you for reply. It only works for Gameloft games or any other games which downloading additional game data?
bullghost said:
the stupidity of LG it not use the external sdcard option that provide by android
event we force it to use that option in console mode using
pm set_install_location
that stupid LG still install the app/game in internal sdcard
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Please, can you write me a detailed instructions how to do it?
smoke2 said:
Hello,
I tried to use Directory Bind, but when my internal memory was about 9GB free and I had moved about those 9GB to external SD, I cant anything install to internal memory(it is necessary first to move it with directory bind).
So the result was, that all moved games and applications were in internal memory despite the phone shows me 9GB of internal memory.
So, my question and big problem is:
How can I move games and apps to external SD card?
Have you some method, have can I done it?
Would be very grateful.
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i found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
but this from the galaxy's series forum anyone want to try it??
dfreake said:
i found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
but this from the galaxy's series forum anyone want to try it??
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I think there are some people here who confirmed it working.
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smoke2 said:
Thank you for reply. It only works for Gameloft games or any other games which downloading additional game data?
Please, can you write me a detailed instructions how to do it?
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The app covers not only gameloft games, but also include of games manufactured by others. In the setup menu, you should tick the boxes of "sdcard/android" and " sdcard/data' under the item of "Add mounted folder". After exit the setup menu, click the " move the data" box and select which game you want to move to sd card. Finally, activate the game.
Sharpshooterrr said:
I think there are some people here who confirmed it working.
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No, Directory Bind is not working!
I writed it in first post!
My friend with 4X had the same issue.
smoke2 said:
No, Directory Bind is not working!
I writed it in first post!
My friend with 4X had the same issue.
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Could you have possibly missed a step in making DirectoryBind work?
The post above about GL to SD might be the only way then, though it's such a hassle to have to activate it each time you'll run an app with data stored in external SD.
Maybe its possible that I made some step wrong, but everything works fine until the 9GB amount of data moved to external SD card with 9GB free in internal memory.
It looks certainly like a problem with binding from internal memory to external SD card and I must had to do a factory reset.
A friend of mine with Optimus 4X started to use Directory Bind too, but had the same issue as me.
I never gave him a solution to use Directory Bind, so theres probably problem with compatibility...
Of course, I would be very appreciated for help how to use properly Directory Bind on Optimus 4x, because is so simple and comfort...
hosamuel01 said:
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The app covers not only gameloft games, but also include of games manufactured by others. In the setup menu, you should tick the boxes of "sdcard/android" and " sdcard/data' under the item of "Add mounted folder". After exit the setup menu, click the " move the data" box and select which game you want to move to sd card. Finally, activate the game.
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Where can I finally activate the game?
I cant see the option anywhere in the program.
smoke2 said:
Where can I finally activate the game?
I cant see the option anywhere in the program.
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In the app, you can press the android LED menu button at the lower right-hand corner, then you will see the setup menu.
After the step of moving data and exit the setup menu, you will also see the list of the game that you moved before, then you can activate the game.
hosamuel01 said:
In the app, you can press the android LED menu button at the lower right-hand corner, then you will see the setup menu.
After the step of moving data and exit the setup menu, you will also see the list of the game that you moved before, then you can activate the game.
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Just want to clarify something. Did you mean earlier that every time you want to open an app that has the data stored in external micro sd, you'll have to activate GL to SD first?
Sharpshooterrr said:
Just want to clarify something. Did you mean earlier that every time you want to open an app that has the data stored in external micro sd, you'll have to activate GL to SD first?
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Activate the GL to SD means that the external sd card is mounted into internal memory card, thus, you just activate a game that you moved before in first time, then the other games are not necessary to activate in next time until if you unmount the external sd card by means of GL to SD.
hosamuel01 said:
Activate the GL to SD means that the external sd card is mounted into internal memory card, thus, you just activate a game that you moved before in first time, then the other games are not necessary to activate in next time until if you unmount the external sd card by means of GL to SD.
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Oh I get it. So this is a better and simpler solution compared to DirectoryBind then?
Sharpshooterrr said:
Oh I get it. So this is a better and simpler solution compared to DirectoryBind then?
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I can't compare which one is better because I have never used the method of DirectoryBind before. But for me, GL to SD was really useful when I used LG Optimus 2x which had only 5GB internal storage. SD Card can share the heavy load from the internal memory.
what our internal partition is it ext3 or ext 4 because i want to partition my sd card
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I have external SD formatted to FAT32 and GL to SD just now really works for me :good:
Some games you cannot move, but the most of them you can move.
Then you must games starting through the GL to SD app, because they are moved to external SD.
Im taking all back.
This application doesnt work properly on my Optimus 4X.
You can move everything on your external SD card, but it will take up same amount of space in your internal memory as on your external SD card memory.
So, its the same issue as with Directory Bind
Maybe Im doing something wrong? I have all of my external SD card formatted to FAT32.
smoke2 said:
Im taking all back.
This application doesnt work properly on my Optimus 4X.
You can move everything on your external SD card, but it will take up same amount of space in your internal memory as on your external SD card memory.
So, its the same issue as with Directory Bind
Maybe Im doing something wrong? I have all of my external SD card formatted to FAT32.
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I think you need to reset your device, I haven't your problem in 4x and previous phone 2x up to now.
Dears
My storage space is insufficient, almost reaching 62G, so I used an SD card and selected the merge storage option. After selecting, the system automatically transfers the APP to the merged SD card. The SD card stores 32G but the storage space of the phone is still about the same 62G, the phone still displays the message of insufficient space. When I open the SD card, it does show apps and photos, but when I open the APPS space, it shows NO app.
It feels that the system backs up some apps, photos, videos to the SD card instead of moving the files over.
Is this normal? What should I do to use the SD card properly?
Thank you
Skylarwu said:
Dears
My storage space is insufficient, almost reaching 62G, so I used an SD card and selected the merge storage option. After selecting, the system automatically transfers the APP to the merged SD card. The SD card stores 32G but the storage space of the phone is still about the same 62G, the phone still displays the message of insufficient space. When I open the SD card, it does show apps and photos, but when I open the APPS space, it shows NO app.
It feels that the system backs up some apps, photos, videos to the SD card instead of moving the files over.
Is this normal? What should I do to use the SD card properly?
Thank you
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i recently found out with this device that it manages data so weird..
1st make a back up of your internal storage. and reset your phone with the mr3 from the site
2nd..after that finishes setup device. storage should be normal
3rd. move files from pc that you backedup and DONT COPY THE ANDROID FOLDER. THATS WHERE THE PROBLEM IS(If you dont play games or just re-download the apk feom play store.)
thats just my conclusion.
i dont use my sd card as interal.. i still don't trust that option. i dont want to lost all my files.. juat my cents
Thanks a lot, reset is a nightmare hahaha