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Has anyone seen those youtube videos of a Samsung device with Super Clear LCD (not a i9023 Nexus S or a s8530 Wave II, the only devices known with Super Clear LCD)?
See for yourselves:
Samsung Galaxy S (Super Clear LCD) - Review
Samsung Galaxy S (Super Clear LCD) - Flash in browser
Samsung Galaxy S (Super Clear LCD) - Another review
Samsung Galaxy S (Super Clear LCD) - HD video recording
Super Clear LCD vs Retina - Viewing angle
Super Clear LCD vs Retina - Outdoor
All the videos say that it is the Samsung Galaxy S with Super Clear LCD. The Wave II is, at the moment, the only device with Super Clear LCD. The Nexus S will soon follow in most of the countries except the UK and the US.
It looks like a pretty nice screen, but we knew that from the Wave II already. It is maybe just the Super AMOLED Galaxy S, but don't say that it is because of the big viewing angles and outdoor visibility: the Wave II also has big viewing angles and good visibility. Super Clear LCD is an LCD with a lot of the advantages of AMOLED.
What do you think?
it actually shows that Samsung is planning to drop the I9000 and make another phone their new Flagship
they did that with all their previous phone.
only flagship phones have SAMOLED displays
absolutely signed allgamer.
i hope they didnt cancel the development for the sgs yet :/
maybe they need the displays for the nexus s now? who knows? are they identically constructed?
actually the new Galaxy S 4G (Tmobile) is around the corner (supposedly March)
then there are those other new models that some calls it Galaxy S2
Nexus S is not doing that well, the Europe models are being sold with SLCD, only the America and UK model are SAMOLED
i wonder which screen is the Canadian model is going to come shipped with, also expected in March
and supposedly they are also planning to release a 850/1900 version of the Nexus S, not sure how true that rumor is
Well, whatever these youtube videos mean (there is also a review in text by the way), the display looks pretty good!
It is a shame that so little know about this display. The display of the Wave II was considered to be a downgrade just because of the fact that the original Wave had Super AMOLED. Of course, most of the people like the high-contrast colours of Super AMOLED, and this display isn't going to change that, but it sure is nice.
Here is a quote from the review (translated to very bad english):
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Screen at Galaxy S "new " type Super Clear LCD, Super Amoled not like the first generation. Reportedly the reason to replace it with SuperClear Samsung LCD because of limited raw material Super Amoled. This is experienced by Samsung Wave II, which is generally the same as the first wave, only increased the size of the screen. Galaxy S is the screen is really the same as the first generation air-Super Amoled, 4 inches with a resolution of 800x480 and 16 million colors. In quality at first glance does not differ much. However, it was from a narrow angle, LCD SuperClear less with Super Amoled. Nevertheless LCD SuperClear still win far compared with a standard TFT LCD Xperia X10-style, from the angle of vision and color quality.
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Hey Guys,
It has been two months since I switched from my iPhone 4 to the Galaxy Note and I haven't touched the iPhone since I bought the Note until yesterday to factory reset it and give it to a friend when I noticed that the iPhone's display looked better (higher resolution) than the galaxy note!! I felt that my Note has a bluish tone to its display?!?! Is this normal or do I have a faulty note? Please help!!
The iPhone 4 has a higher PPI (Pixels Per Inch), so the iPhone's screen is sharper. But the Note's screen is far from bad. Can you post a pic of your screen? (Not a screenshot) And try to get a good pic.
I am at work right now. Will post pics of the Note once I get back home (Can't post pics of iPhone and Note together cos I gave the iPhone away). I am not saying that the Note's display was bad but when I placed them side by side I could tell that the iPhone's display was better easily. I thought the Note should beat the iPhone in display easily because of the Note's higher resolution.
itismadhan said:
... I am not saying that the Note's display was bad but when I placed them side by side I could tell that the iPhone's display was better easily. I thought the Note should beat the iPhone in display easily because of the Note's higher resolution.
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iPhone 4 (and 4s) has smaller screen, but higher resolution: 3.5 inches 960 × 640 px at 326 ppi. So it's screen shows more detail than the one on the Note.
I played with iPhone 4s and the Note side by side and would agree that movies, for example, often look "better" on the iPhone, especially the darker sciens. Although the overall picture is smaller, the iPhone's super LCD screen tends to give "more natural" look to a video than the super AMOLED screen on the Note, especially if the quality of the video encoding is not that great. In my experience anyway...
That being said, the quality of screens on the Note appears to vary quite a bit. There's a couple of rather long and active threads here discussing the screen issues...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336187
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344714
http://www.tuttoandroid.net/samsung...y-nexus-videoconfronto-da-tuttoandroid-77996/
good watching
I think I need a mustache...
cool video.
at this part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFIDJBQrnc&feature=player_embedded#t=677s
you can clearly see the difference in how deep the blacks are on the amoled.
superkevx said:
cool video.
at this part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFIDJBQrnc&feature=player_embedded#t=677s
you can clearly see the difference in how deep the blacks are on the amoled.
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Coming from a One X i must say that ever since I had the One x i simply despise amoled screens. The Black might be good but i'll take better whites over blacks any day. Apart from that the screen also felt so much brighter than the amoled screen.
The first thing I did when i heard of the nexus 4 and its price was to look whether the screen is Amoled or not. If it were an amoled screen i would have most probably thought twice before buying this device. Amoled IMO is just not there yet. I recall comparing the galaxy nexus's screen with my one x... That dim bluish white on websites was simply horrible.
superkevx said:
cool video.
at this part:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqFIDJBQrnc&feature=player_embedded#t=677s
you can clearly see the difference in how deep the blacks are on the amoled.
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Watch the first few seconds of this video (Nexus 4 boot up) and you will see that although blacks on the current top of the line LCD displays may not be the same as blacks on AMOLED screens, they're still VERY good.
Well, watched video. Amoled rules. Colors reproduction is way better. LCD way to go for improvement.
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I have a question...okay the black is better on the galaxy nexus....but when you use your phone, the screen is always black ? because, the white is better on the nexus 4 and the contrast is a lot better. So i don't understand all of this thing about the black on the galaxy nexus....( i used a lot the galaxy s 2 )
This isn't English
How about you ****ing note that in the title, or at least somewhere in the post?
Like I've said before, what's the point of having on screen buttons when the background of the buttons are pure black? And until unless the phone doesn't produce deep blacks, what's the point? The Galaxy Nexus feel more like a Nexus MAINLY because of the AMOLED display.
Don't know why people keep complaining about the PenTile, it's not bad. It really isn't. The Galaxy Nexus, I agree, had some yellow-ing issues but most of the devices DID NOT. I had those issues - My screen broke - I got a new screen and it's FANTASTIC.
Just yesterday, I compared my Galaxy Nexus's screen with the HTC One X, the iPhone 5 and the HTC Sensation (All 3 having LCD displays) and trust me, none of the phones stand a chance in front of the color production of the Galaxy Nexus.
The main reason I didn't buy the Nexus 4 and I never will is the AMOLED. Nexus devices have had AMOLED since their first release. From the HTC One X to the Galaxy Nexus, the devices have been AMOLED and they looked amazing!
Sure the Nexus 4 has a great crisp screen but it surely doesn't beat the Galaxy Nexus in terms of color production and the black levels.
But well, every one has their own opinions. Don't jump on me!
arzbhatia said:
Like I've said before, what's the point of having on screen buttons when the background of the buttons are pure black? And until unless the phone doesn't produce deep blacks, what's the point? The Galaxy Nexus feel more like a Nexus MAINLY because of the AMOLED display.
Don't know why people keep complaining about the PenTile, it's not bad. It really isn't. The Galaxy Nexus, I agree, had some yellow-ing issues but most of the devices DID NOT. I had those issues - My screen broke - I got a new screen and it's FANTASTIC.
Just yesterday, I compared my Galaxy Nexus's screen with the HTC One X, the iPhone 5 and the HTC Sensation (All 3 having LCD displays) and trust me, none of the phones stand a chance in front of the color production of the Galaxy Nexus.
The main reason I didn't buy the Nexus 4 and I never will is the AMOLED. Nexus devices have had AMOLED since their first release. From the HTC One X to the Galaxy Nexus, the devices have been AMOLED and they looked amazing!
Sure the Nexus 4 has a great crisp screen but it surely doesn't beat the Galaxy Nexus in terms of color production and the black levels.
But well, every one has their own opinions. Don't jump on me!
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No thanks, Jeff. Pentile is an absolute disaster. Forget color reproduction. It has nearly 30% less sub pixels than the Nexus 4. I still remember telling people that the screen is 720P. My iPhone carrying friends literally laughed, because the difference in sharpness between the two screens was a complete and utter joke. Blacks are only noticeably different in a dark environment (try to see the difference in daylight; you can't), and considering most of us use our phones mostly in well lit areas, I'd take LCD > OLED. Lastly, do I even need to mention how pathetic whites were on Samsung crap? What about the severe burn in? Yeah. No thanks. AMOLED, never again...
Craven68 said:
I have a question...okay the black is better on the galaxy nexus....but when you use your phone, the screen is always black ? because, the white is better on the nexus 4 and the contrast is a lot better. So i don't understand all of this thing about the black on the galaxy nexus....( i used a lot the galaxy s 2 )
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Contrast:
Amoled>>>LCD
Contrast is the brighness of the whites divided by the brighness of the blacks, since the blacks on Amoleds have almost zero brightness their contrast is extremely high.
How contast is not everything, my main use of the phone is browsing and messaging so I will take accurate whites over perfect blacks anytime.
I also got sick of the oversaturated colors an even worse the unavoidable screen burn that is even worse on phones with onscreen buttons.
so i think the nexus 4 is definitely a degrade from Gnexus.... every one saying that ips lcd has a far better brightness than amoleds but its clearly showing in video that TRUE IPS PLUS LCD is totally crap when comparing to HDAmoled ..color reproduction,contrast levels, blacks as well aswhites(look in when comparing chrome browsers) , saturation everything excellent on AMoled.... i thought nexus 4 has a super duper display....but its a big dealbreaker for me...i sold my s3 for a nexus4 ...
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so i think the nexus 4 is definitely a degrade from Gnexus.... every one saying that ips lcd has a far better brightness than amoleds but its clearly showing in video that TRUE IPS PLUS LCD is totally crap when comparing to HDAmoled ..color reproduction,contrast levels, blacks as well aswhites(look in when comparing chrome browsers) , saturation everything excellent on AMoled.... i thought nexus 4 has a super duper display....but its a big dealbreaker for me...i sold my s3 for a nexus4 ...
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READ THE THREAD BEFORE POSTING:
Pentile is an absolute disaster. Forget color reproduction. It has nearly 30% less sub pixels than the Nexus 4. I still remember telling people that the screen is 720P. My iPhone carrying friends literally laughed, because the difference in sharpness between the two screens was a complete and utter joke. Blacks are only noticeably different in a dark environment (try to see the difference in daylight; you can't), and considering most of us use our phones mostly in well lit areas, I'd take LCD > OLED. Lastly, do I even need to mention how pathetic whites were on Samsung crap? What about the severe burn in? Yeah. No thanks. AMOLED, never again...
alangrig said:
Well, watched video. Amoled rules. Colors reproduction is way better. LCD way to go for improvement.
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Actually you tend to find colour reproduction on AMOLED is worse. Sure it's more vibrant looking (often referred to as over-saturated), but that doesn't make it accurate.
Thanks been looking for one
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This is basically the problem. Does the n4 have Ny advantage over the s3 in the screen department?
I sold my nexus 7 after 2 days of owning it but it waz not due to the screen waz cause I could not justify owning a tablet and a phone. Tablet be comes a burden if you have a good smartphone already.
So trying to decide between a s3 or s3 mini or n4 or even a a xperia. Or htc one x.
I did notice my nexus 7 screen seemed more pleasant than my s2 because the colors looked more natural and were easier on the eyes.
My s2 has broken wifi so I need to sell it as its hardware fault.
I hear the n4 feels like holding a iphone its unibody design feels very expensive and quality.
The colours are fantastic and you can tweak the gamma settings via a custom kernel. My display looks absolutely gorgeous, with way better black levels than normal (but of course, can't beat AMOLED in that department).
AFAIK, AMOLEDs still have the degrading issue so your display will look a bit weird as some parts of the screen will burn out faster than others. It's up to you at the end of the day, i can tell you the N4's display is great out of the bot, but absolutely awesome once you've tweak the gamma settings. You'll also be getting regular, guaranteed updates straight from Google.
Check out the spreadsheet in my sig. Many great color settings there; and after using the bolded set, I now like my display more than my friends AMOLED on his SGSIII
I had the Gnexus before...and honestly, I didn't quite like the display on that.
What I did like was the viewing angles and the black blacks. Everything else was off-balance and saturated.
Oh - and amoled, I hear, are prone to greater degradation (and mine was a bit awful with horizontal lines and what-not).
With IPS, you won't get those deep blacks bit they do the job even at night with a lightbulb on. However, everything else renders fine. And crispier.
Just check out the screen on the One X and the One and you'll see how far ahead IPS is in terms of brightness, sunlight visibility and clarity.
Oh, and the fact that Amoled, when they're not displaying black, consume more power than IPS...
My two cents.
Sent from my upgraded mini tractor.
I had an S2 as well, and its screen doesn't hold a candle to the Nexus 4 IMO.
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So my partner has a new iPhone 6s Plus and the clarity of his screen has me envious.
Checked the specs on GMS the N6 has more pixels and a higher density %, so what gives?
Is it the AMOLED screen? Is it possible to get that level of clarity?
Do you have a screen protector on? Those can make display look fuzzy, especially the anti-glare protectors.
my n6 screen is much more crisp than an I phones..
I suggest doing two things,
1- With a custom kernel, pick a color profile that fits you; and/or
2- Download this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=flar2.hbmwidget
exekias said:
So my partner has a new iPhone 6s Plus and the clarity of his screen has me envious.
Checked the specs on GMS the N6 has more pixels and a higher density %, so what gives?
Is it the AMOLED screen? Is it possible to get that level of clarity?
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Yes, kind of.
AMOLED is... visually TERRIBLE. There are two advantages it has over a conventional LCD; (1) lower power consumption -- black pixels are actually switched off. (2) no backlight means no light bleeding through "black", in other words, black is more black on an AMOLED than an LCD.
The other part of it is that AMOLED actually *CHEATS* on its resolution claims. Something called an "RGBG subpixel matrix". The "RGBG" part is particularly important, since it describes the actual layout of the R, G, and B pixels -- for Red, Green, and Blue. Notice that there are twice as many G's as R's or B's.... Right. Its only 2560x1440 in GREEN. The Red and Blue are each only 2560x720. THAT is why the higher pixel density LOOKS less sharp than the apple LCD. You can thank samsung for that one, AMOLED is their tech.
So for the question about whether or not you can get that same (or better) clarity of of a Nexus 6... sure, if the image is ALL GREEN.
Edit: These are the Android phone's I've owned, in chronological order;
2008: HTC Dream, 480x320 LCD -- reasonable, given the low resolution.
2010: HTC Vision, 800x480 LCD -- at its time, absolutely stunning. Still "pleasant".
2012: Samsung Relay, 800x480 AMOLED -- if looking at something could cause your eyes to bleed, this would have done just that. Absolutely the WORST display imaginable. I had MUCH higher hopes for it, given all the "good" I'd heard about AMOLED and how "crisp" and "high contrast" they were supposed to be. That it could be dramatically WORSE than the 480x320 on the HTC Dream was stunning. I was expecting it to at least be "close" to the HTC Vision.
2015: Nexus 6, 2560x1440 AMOLED -- while visually the best so far, it is only because of the absurdly high number of pixels. So many that it has a significant negative impact on graphic performance. I would gladly sacrifice a little bit of battery and contrast to get the performance of 1920x1080.
turn up your brightness, N6's screen looks terrible at low brightness unless you have a kcal kernel to adjust the colors (stock warm colors look fuzzier imo compared to cool colors). The iphone having a LCD makes it look basically the same at any brightness at least color and sharpness-wise.
iphone is crisp because of its tech..
but i love nexus more..
i dont adore the nexus because of its screen but i love android because its an ANDROID
Honestly, I'm just getting old. I think the Nexus 6 screen is perfectly fine - crisp and clear.