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...that there will most likely never ever be an official superphone Nexus 2?
With the online store a relative failure, we will probably have to buy new phones from our carriers (or from the manufacturers God willing) and yea...kinda sucks.
I wish Google REALLY tried to change the game and A) made sure HTC used the absolute BEST materials and hardware for the N1, B) priced it at like 300 without contract and 100 on contract and C) MARKETED THE HELL OUT OF IT
oh well... :-/
I see the Nexus one as a Massive success, personally. Check out all of the newer android phones on the market since it was released.
Compare to the HTC Hero, Samsung Moment, or Moto Droid.
Would definitely be a bummed. I was only going to buy nexus successors, with all the damn new choices all the damn time that would've given some order to my life. Plus its the only reason I renewed with t-mobile. Ill hold out hope at least until January 5th...
Nexus 2
Man that sucks, It would mean that the Nexus 1 is my last Android phone! (I'm waiting on the Nexus 2)
The Nexus One may not have been the insanely high volume sales success of other devices out there. But that doesn't mean it was a failure. In fact, IIRC, Google has come out and said that based on the sales figure, it has technically been a success for them. Whether or not there will be a "Nexus Two" is purely speculation at this point. There's only one way to find out (wait).
And either way, I doubt there will be any disappointment either way. If there is a Nexus Two, then everyone here can go WOOHOO! And if there isn't a Nexus Two, I'm sure something will come out around its ETA that is equally as stunning to those waiting for it.
regardless if there is or isnt going to be a Nexus 2 the Nexus 1 is an amazing phone and has begun aging gracefully. I can say that any Android phone i get in the future i will judge it on how awesome it is/isnt in comparison to my Nexus 1
Did you know that the 2 most discussed device specific sub forums here are the the HD2 and the Nexus sub forums?
What does that tell you?
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Did you know that the 2 most discussed device specific sub forums here are the the HD2 and the Nexus sub forums?
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That we're a bunch of social butterflies and those "other people" are the silent types.
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regardless if there is or isnt going to be a Nexus 2 the Nexus 1 is an amazing phone and has begun aging gracefully. I can say that any Android phone i get in the future i will judge it on how awesome it is/isnt in comparison to my Nexus 1
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+1. And, it's nice knowing that updates will continue to come straight from Google while others will be at the mercy of the carriers. I rarely keep a phone for more than 6 months or so, but I can't see giving up my N1 anytime soon.
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+1. And, it's nice knowing that updates will continue to come straight from Google while others will be at the mercy of the carriers. I rarely keep a phone for more than 6 months or so, but I can't see giving up my N1 anytime soon.
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I see all these "new" phones coming out with 1Ghz processors and AMOLED screens and such and i always go "been there done that". Phones IMHO are just now catching up to the Nexus.
So unless there is something "new" that my nexus doesn't have then i wont be getting a new phone any time soon. And by something new i dont mean a bigger screen because i should be able to put a phone in my pocket without feeling like its gonna break in half, or it makes it uncomfortable to sit down. *cough cough EVO and Droid*
Erm, I thought you could still buy the nexus one sim free from shops, or at least expansys.
I think we'll be spoilt for choice even if there isn't a "nexus two" because HTC are obviously comitted to android phones and aside from various other brands Samsung seem to have come out with a really nice phone in the Galaxy S.
the main reason I got the N1 was because it's uncluttered from carrier overlays, it's 'pure' android (i switched from an iPhone 3G) - and I prefer being contract free.
I hope there is a N2, although I do like the looks of the Droid X (I'm in Europe though). there's plenty of life left in my N1 ...
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I'm not upset in the slightest.
Yes there are other phones out there with similar/better specs...but from the a developers stand point, its there favorite toy at the moment.
I'm glad that the Nexus One came because it set a new standard beyond the 528 MHz Qualcomms that Android devices were stuck on, and even now has barely been eclipsed in terms of speed or features. There are no phones out right now that I would consider a true upgrade from the N1, more of a side-grade.
I agree we will never see a Nexus Two, and yes, it does make me sad.
I HATE carrier provided phones
They're always laden with ****ware.
There will always be an ADP (Android developer phone) It just may not be called Nexus.
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There will always be an ADP (Android developer phone) It just may not be called Nexus.
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But none of the developer phones have supported the AT&T or Rogers 3G bands. I'm afraid that no Nexus 2 means no more AT&T support on developer phones.
Dammit.
where is there a competitive smarthphone today that is $300 unsubsidized period?
Given the business and licensing model of Android, there will always have to be some kind of benchmark. Something that defines the minimum spec needed to run new OS versions. What features are needed, what hardware is required, what level of overhead can developers use for their apps. This wasn't as important when there was only 4 models around, 3 of which were from the same manufacturer.
This benchmark doesn't need to be made available to consumers, see the Android Dev phones released prior to the N1. It does need to exist. However, Google also seems interested in pushing the exterior to look as polished as the guts, so if you're going through the expense of creating hardware, software and a casing, why not sell it?
Besides with the N1 just now becoming available in B&M stores worldwide (Vodafone aside), it's consumer success/failure is just now being decided.
the two main reasons i love the nexus are that it has cutting edge hardware, and i was (still am) hoping a new one would come each year, like the iphone. It would be nice to be able to depend on a yearly upgrade, then i could sit back and enjoy the insanity around me that is the ever evolving, ultra competitive, Android industry...i love it, i just cant keep up with it, i need some sort of order and stability in my life!
Hi all!
I have a Nexus 5, and I really like it, but it seems like it is almost time to upgrade.
A few questions for you owners and to-be owners:
Is it worth waiting for phones like the One M9, etc,. in your opinion?
Are the black levels really that noticably different on the Nexus 6 when compared to the Nexus 5?
Is it worth waiting for 64-bit and Snapdragon 810 processors?
Is it worth upgrading from the Nexus 5?
Considering Mobile World Congress is under 2 months away, I'm not sure if I should wait. The only other phone I'd likely buy is a One M9 (as the One M8 was the only non-Nexus phone last year with a sizable custom ROM / development community).
That said, HTC's One M9:
Never uses OLED/AMOLED displays
Probably won't use Quantum Dot (which is inferior to OLED)
Might or might not have a better development community than the Nexus 6
Is likely to have a better build quality than the 5
But probably won't have a large display or wireless charging
Might have a Snapdragon 810 octa-core / 64 bit
So - I'm not sure if it's worth waiting the ~1.5 months (1.5 months that I could be using the Nexus 6) to see what might or might not be better than the Nexus 6 based off of speculation for what the One M9 might be like.
Up to you mostly, but apparently, the One M9 will have a Snapdragon 810 (octa core)
Yeah.
I noticed that, but it likely won't have as nice of a screen as the Nexus 6 , which is already plenty fast :-/
But it will probably have nicer build quality and better speakers.
And who knows what it's development community will be like?
Decisions, decisions.
Wait. Either android or the nexus 6 is buggy. Performance isn't great. By the time the m9 is released either android will be fixed or the nexus 6 well be abandoned.
The m8 was a beautiful device. Sense is also very close to stock android and pretty damn snappy. I was on the same boat when my upgrade came in December. I honestly just didn't want to wait u until March for unveiling then maybe april/may for purchase. Newer, better phones will always be released so you would have been asking yourself the same question when the m9 came out (should I wait another 5-6 months for the new nexus).
The m9 will most likely be gorgeous, if they base it on the m8. I've just gotten used to larger displays. A sub 5.5 inch display just isn't cutting it for me. The biggest pro is the 810 chip and whatever power saving abilities it will have. Performance wise, it might clock higher but even the n5 can handle everything you throw at it (app wise).
Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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It is a tough decision. If the nexus 6 had micro SD slot I'd drop the note4. But alas, it does not, but the note4 has many advantages over the nexus6. And of disadvantages. I wish Samsung would drop the physical buttons in favor of software navigation already. I hate touchwiz but it is tameable and the note4 is just about perfect minus the home and physical buttons. I longingly look at the nexus 6 and wait for the next manufacturer to mish mash the best of both the note4 an nexus 6. If the m9 or hima has a 5.5" screen like rumors say I would probably go for that. The m8 and sense were much more tolerable than touchwiz. I am gonna keep my m8 and it's status as my everything goto media player unless the hima blows it out of the water.
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Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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Thanks for the replies so far.
The thing is, the One M8 does have an admirably large development community - the Android Development subforum has ~80,000 replies! Almost matching the growth of the Nexus 5 development community over time. Since I use custom ROMs anyways, having a pure Google experience shouldn't be a problem with such a huge community (that, again, will likely have many custom ROMs based off of pure Android). I believe the developer versions HTC sells come with the bootloader unlocked, so security shouldn't be an issue.
That said, you do make good points!
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It is a tough decision. If the nexus 6 had micro SD slot I'd drop the note4. But alas, it does not, but the note4 has many advantages over the nexus6. And of disadvantages. I wish Samsung would drop the physical buttons in favor of software navigation already. I hate touchwiz but it is tameable and the note4 is just about perfect minus the home and physical buttons. I longingly look at the nexus 6 and wait for the next manufacturer to mish mash the best of both the note4 an nexus 6. If the m9 or hima has a 5.5" screen like rumors say I would probably go for that. The m8 and sense were much more tolerable than touchwiz. I am gonna keep my m8 and it's status as my everything goto media player unless the hima blows it out of the water.
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Thanks for the input.
How are you liking your M8? How is your battery life? How do you think the screen compares to the Note's AMOLED?
One thing to keep in mond about the M9 is that there very possibly won't be a Google Play Edition of it since all signs are pointing to the GPE arrangement being ended.
The M8 has good developer support but as of late we have seen HTC really crack down on development. They have blocked S-Off on most 4.4.4 models and CM has a hard time especially with audio. It looks like the M8 will be the last of the great developement period for HTC unless they pull a fast one for us.
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One thing to keep in mond about the M9 is that there very possibly won't be a Google Play Edition of it since all signs are pointing to the GPE arrangement being ended.
The M8 has good developer support but as of late we have seen HTC really crack down on development. They have blocked S-Off on most 4.4.4 models and CM has a hard time especially with audio. It looks like the M8 will be the last of the great developement period for HTC unless they pull a fast one for us.
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Could you elaborate on this? What is the implication of this on using custom ROMs? Does it mean that if HTC finds a way to permanently block S-Off in future versions we won't be able to use custom non-Sense ROMs?
Agree, best advice if possible.
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Wait. Either android or the nexus 6 is buggy. Performance isn't great. By the time the m9 is released either android will be fixed or the nexus 6 well be abandoned.
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The m8 was a beautiful device. Sense is also very close to stock android and pretty damn snappy. I was on the same boat when my upgrade came in December. I honestly just didn't want to wait u until March for unveiling then maybe april/may for purchase. Newer, better phones will always be released so you would have been asking yourself the same question when the m9 came out (should I wait another 5-6 months for the new nexus).
The m9 will most likely be gorgeous, if they base it on the m8. I've just gotten used to larger displays. A sub 5.5 inch display just isn't cutting it for me. The biggest pro is the 810 chip and whatever power saving abilities it will have. Performance wise, it might clock higher but even the n5 can handle everything you throw at it (app wise).
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Yes, I've always been a phablet user, older eyes need bigger displays, I started on the HTC HD2, then HTC Sensation, followed by AMaze, Followed by Samsung G4 then G5 then note 3, to LGG3 to Nexus 6 and Note 4. AS you can see, I like Phablets which to me seem small in my hands. As the previous poster said, The Nexus 6 with Lollipop is incomplete and has it share of bugs and imperfection, especially in options and settings. So many things you may take for granted on other devices turn out to be features of said device and not standard usability. I am waiting for the big update later this month or next to see what is added or addressed and what is considered a feature. A lot of press as claimed not much in the way of features or settings, or usability is going to be addressed because it is the way google as chosen to go. Unreal that they think the ambient notification helps deaf people more than a blinking LED, but that is their position. I disagree with their thought process and find it hard to believe that somehow the new notification system makes it easier to tell what you have received. To me it makes little sense but I am used to the old fashion LED system and may be biased in my thinking.
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Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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I have yet to get a phone that was unrootable if you needed to have root for some reason. In fact, now that I have the nexus six, it's the first phone that I have not rooted yet, only because I feel the phone should do most of the things I like without rooting and at that point root it to use titanium back up.
Most ROM's solve the performance issues by disabling decryption, right?
That said if HTC will actually stunt ROMing on the One M9, I might simply just get the Nexus 6. Nothing annoys me more than having to wait months upon months because a company decided that developers shouldn't develop.
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Most ROM's solve the performance issues by disabling decryption, right?
That said if HTC will actually stunt ROMing on the One M9, I might simply just get the Nexus 6. Nothing annoys me more than having to wait months upon months because a company decided that developers shouldn't develop.
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That was the first thing I did was disable the encryption. Ive had absolutely no issues with performance whatsoever. This is the fastest phone I've ever owned. I came for the HTC m8. I don't know what's your carrier is but I'm verizon and I know things are getting tougher and tougher to unlock as far as bootloaders and even root. Just look at the Samsung devices on Verizon they are so locked down and i may be wrong but I'd be surprised if the new HTC m9 achieves s off for Verizon. I'm at the point now where if I can't have an unlocked bootloader and an easily rootable device I'm going to go ahead and switch to an AT&T SIM on straight talk and continue to buy devices at full retail as I have been doing. . The only reason I've stuck with Verizon is because I work in a steel building in the only reason I get signal is because there is a Verizon tower on the company property in the back and I still hardly get any signal inside.
Great topic
This is same question I've been considering for a while too. I actually like HTC's skin (not nearly as much as Stock Android but still) and I'm sure it'll get plenty of development. But Stock Android is too good to resist.. and so are timely updates.
There's also the chance that future non-Nexus Android phones will be more locked down.
All in all, I want to see what the M9 brings to the table.
am a little bit of a htc fan boy as you can see in my signature i have the nexus 6 at the moment and i love it if you look around online the note about the snap 810 being serious throttled and having way bad over heating issues and the rumours that its going to be delayed just wont go away as the snap 810 is in the lg flex 2 and even our nexus 6 beats it in antutu and i was planing on getting the m9 instead but went with the nexus 6 as i dont really want to be the beta testers for qualicom and pay £550 for the privilege lol
If me I will wait for m9 or z4
It truly depends on what you want from a software perspective. No non-nexus devices development community ever compares in size to a Nexus Development community. OEM devices are notoriously difficult to get AOSP working well on, so if you want AOSP, Nexus devices are best for that.
are you guys enjoying the 3t? worth every penny? will u upgrade to the next one plus this year? is it worth waiting?
As long as they continue to update the 3t the way they are, I'll be keeping mine for a while. Phone works great, looks great and I'm experiencing great battery life on the stock rom
I'm simply in love with mine. It has AMOLED display, hardware that secures future, good camera.
This can be told about many phones, but... Do they have so frequent software updates? Beta twice a month! Actually, developers are listening to people's opinions (obviously can't listen to everyone).
From what I've seen, many people who changed their phones from s7e/nexus to OP3T are really content with it.
Battery life is another great thing, it easily goes through a day and charges so quickly!
If you don't need a new phone urgently, you might as well wait for the next OnePlus phone. As much as we don't want to face it, OnePlus is likely going to put development for the 3/3T on the back-burner once the next generation of phones are released (looking at you, OP2). That said, the OP3/T is certainly an excellent device and worth its current price.
yeah its a killer phone. id get one. just did in fact.
Brian
I upgraded from the S7 edge to the 3t (like 2weeks ago) and I love this phone. Way ahead of the game, not a single particle of lag. That said, I will probably upgrade once the 5 comes out; as I love having the latest tech, but yeah. Getting this phone right now was worth it for me.
Upgraded from 6p and really like it!,
Just 2 features i really miss front stereo speakers and camera everything else is perfect for me
Best supported phone ive ever owned. Even with the nexus one, support from google still doesnt compare to oneplus.
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If you don't need a new phone urgently, you might as well wait for the next OnePlus phone. As much as we don't want to face it, OnePlus is likely going to put development for the 3/3T on the back-burner once the next generation of phones are released (looking at you, OP2). That said, the OP3/T is certainly an excellent device and worth its current price.
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Is that whats happened to oneplus 1 and 2?
Uhm, no idea.
I justified spending 400+ EUR on the 3T, because I thought at the time that I'm going to keep it for at least two years. And now I'm tempted to upgrade to the 5, because fsck yeah, this phone is awesome, can't wait for the next model. I'll just give this to someone in the family.
I looked to upgrade to something else but seriously - there's nothing else out there. It's at the top of it's game. Get it now, or if not in hurry for a few months. Wait.
Rumor
There is a rumor on OP 5 that it has a ceramic/glass back. Well if you don't wanna break it then...
Nothing official so.....
I still love the block type metal of the OP 3T so it is my ideal choice
When does one plus release its device?. Is it in August?..
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When does one plus release its device?. Is it in August?..
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It's all just rumor at this point. No announcement yet. And manufacturers usually don't tip their hand too early. Doing so would not only potentially damage the sales of the current device, but also may give their competition an edge.
I've seen some stories around that state that Samsung is buying up all the Snapdragon 835 supply. And being the Android market juggernaut, most (all?) other manufacturers are going to have to wait to get the 835. This alone may cause OnePlus to delay a launch.
The OP3T is amazing and I think OP5 will be even more. If you aren't in a hurry, would be nice to wait.
OP3t is a great device. Even if OP stops updates at nougat, the dev support will continue.
Look at the OPO, it has perfect nougat ROMs that are current. The OP3t will continue on with devs, cause it's a solid built device (as was the OPO). The OP2 had no nfc and the crap 810 cpu, and still solid on dev support.
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I upgraded from the S7 edge to the 3t (like 2weeks ago) and I love this phone. Way ahead of the game, not a single particle of lag. That said, I will probably upgrade once the 5 comes out; as I love having the latest tech, but yeah. Getting this phone right now was worth it for me.
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I currently have a Note 5 and am looking to pick up another device for some additional R00T fun. My ONLY concern is the 1080p screen. I know this sounds absurd but we've been spoiled with 1440p. Can you really actually see a noticeable difference?
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I currently have a Note 5 and am looking to pick up another device for some additional R00T fun. My ONLY concern is the 1080p screen. I know this sounds absurd but we've been spoiled with 1440p. Can you really actually see a noticeable difference?
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I understand you haha. I was a little worried myself, as a lot of people hyped it "down" .
Honestly, Samsung has the best screens any phone manufacturer can have. Comparing both, I noticed that the colors looked better on the S7 edge, and that the S7's screen gets brighter. Are those deal breakers? Absolutely not. The screen is great and 1440 p is not different compared to 1080p .
It'll definitely take the screen downgrade for a absolutely lagfree device. It's been almost 2 weeks and not a single app, or animation has lagged. Also battery life is great. Damn I still feel like I'm not using this device to its full capabilities lol
With how things are going, they seem to have found the hardware they really love, so they're developing their software now. I think they want to love their software as much as their hardware, so they may be sticking with the 3t. Look how many special editions are coming out, they got an otterbox deal and they acrually ship on time now.
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I currently have a Note 5 and am looking to pick up another device for some additional R00T fun. My ONLY concern is the 1080p screen. I know this sounds absurd but we've been spoiled with 1440p. Can you really actually see a noticeable difference?
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If you want to use some vr hardware, then yes, 4k is better. Otherwise 1080p is faster to drive, and uses less power. So it's a trade-off.
I would get it definitely. Well i already did actually. Great phone I love it definitely worth the money and had a great supporting dev community. And if your worried about oneplus stopping updates it's no big deal cause there a lots of custom roms for this phone and there is a great community surrounding it.
Asus recently announced their new flagship at a pretty aggresive price, for around 500$ you're getting an S845 with a big 19:9 ratio screen, dual camera, nice design ( maybe ruined by the notch ), you think the 5Z can compete with the Oneplus 6 ?
My opinion is that it's an iPhone X clone, there's no way around that. However, it's priced competitively and undercuts several SD845 devices. The only downsides really, would be Asus' track record with major OS updates, as well as their skin. I had the ZF2 3yrs ago and wasn't fond of their UI.
I'm sort of fascinated by the design, but I'm worried about development being DOA and the BL being locked. Also I want the normal ZF5 with the SD660 if it's below $300.
the specs looks good in my opinion.
maybe the only downside was the UI and development. ZF3 and ZF4 got only few roms.
but the device is running android Oreo now.
I'm eyeing now this device because of the wide angle lens, maybe this will be my replacement for my LG G5. I'm hating LG now for having select variants with unlockable bootloader and poor quality of the device.
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the specs looks good in my opinion.
maybe the only downside was the UI and development. ZF3 and ZF4 got only few roms.
but the device is running android Oreo now.
I'm eyeing now this device because of the wide angle lens, maybe this will be my replacement for my LG G5. I'm hating LG now for having select variants with unlockable bootloader and poor quality of the device.
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In the US you have to buy the carrier free variant, but development is lackluster for LG phones now. V20 and G5 have some support, whereas previous LG models such as the G2-G4 saw more development. Sorta doubt things will pick up for the V30.
I'm hoping the ZF5's price will attract devs, especially those from oneplus devices.
icloned. I personally will never buy a device which is copy of an iPhone. During the presentation they seemed proud of it, heck they even called it the Fruit Phone X. Asus has just lost it, as has all the other OEMs who copy the Apple notch whether it be Moto, Vivo, Xiaomi, Oppo, LG. I would rather switch to Apple instead.
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In the US you have to buy the carrier free variant, but development is lackluster for LG phones now. V20 and G5 have some support, whereas previous LG models such as the G2-G4 saw more development. Sorta doubt things will pick up for the V30.
I'm hoping the ZF5's price will attract devs, especially those from oneplus devices.
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Hoping it also. :fingers-crossed:
Looking at price and specifications of the 5Z, as long as it's available with some kind of bootloader unlock then this is my preferred flagship beater. A single AOSP based rom like AICP or CRDroid for it and I'll be happy as long as we keep it up to date.
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Looking at price and specifications of the 5Z, as long as it's available with some kind of bootloader unlock then this is my preferred flagship beater. A single AOSP based rom like AICP or CRDroid for it and I'll be happy as long as we keep it up to date.
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This!
This phone looks like really good hardware and actually from what little ice read, I'm seeing that Asus have gone a lot closer to stock with the software as well.
If the bootloader can be easily unlocked then all it needs is one AOSP ROM (which given it will be treble enabled shouldn't be too hard) and we are a go.
I really do think this will be a good device for them. With treble being mandatory for all phones shipping with Android 8, it should take away a lot of anxiety from manufacturers who provide poor software updates as long as the bootloader can be unlocked
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well. we could ask the devs from ZF3 and ZF4 @planet9 @shakalaca @anhenrique if they will get the ZF5.
Looking forward for zenphone 5 with s636 price around below 400 and BL unlocked and source code release!
Seriously drooling over this 5z the specs are killer, as far as the notch I could care less that it resembles a essential p1. The specs the aspect ratio is spot on. Think it may be my next device after it's been out for a few months and see how it rolls. Hopefully Asus keeps the major updates coming for it and a place in the modding community. That sd845 tho.
I am considering this device. It seems to tick all of my boxes. I do wish it was waterproof, but for the price I'm strongly considering it anyways. Does anyone know Asus reputation with RF performance?
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I am considering this device. It seems to tick all of my boxes. I do wish it was waterproof, but for the price I'm strongly considering it anyways. Does anyone know Asus reputation with RF performance?
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What's RF..???
Addition : RF performance is pretty good.
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What's RF..???
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I think it's radio frequency, ie if this phone gets good phone reception.
There is also SAR (specific Absorbtion Rate). This is something that measures how much radiation a phone outputs to your body when the phone is at a certain distance. This is something that should be spoken about more. Phones can up the power for a better signal but it should be the optimisation of phone strength without outputting more radiation into your body.
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I think it's radio frequency, ie if this phone gets good phone reception.
There is also SAR (specific Absorbtion Rate). This is something that measures how much radiation a phone outputs to your body when the phone is at a certain distance. This is something that should be spoken about more. Phones can up the power for a better signal but it should be the optimisation of phone strength without outputting more radiation into your body.
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Thanks for telling about about RF. And I knew about SAR, still:good:
My asus zenfone has heating issue. It is getting hot after 10 ,15 min
If this were offered in a Google Play Edition I would jump all over it. ASUS bloat and support, no thanks.
Asus told me via their FB account, that USB2.0 stated on GSM arena is incorrect. So afterall there is hope, that the SD636 version will be one of the first midrangers with proper USB3.1 with all its perks!
I just wish, that asus doesn't screw up something on the phone, because so far it looks like a killer phone.
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Asus told me via their FB account, that USB2.0 stated on GSM arena is incorrect. So afterall there is hope, that the SD636 version will be one of the first midrangers with proper USB3.1 with all its perks!
I just wish, that asus doesn't screw up something on the phone, because so far it looks like a killer phone.
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The Moto Z3 Play will include the same SOC, so we'll see. I'm unsure of when the 5 will release outside of Asia, but they need to move quickly.
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If this were offered in a Google Play Edition I would jump all over it. ASUS bloat and support, no thanks.
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I don't think so. look at their Zenfone 3 models its already running android Oreo unlike other companies that still stuck on nougat.
I understand many people do not care Samsung Devices are loaded with bloatware, but the price !!!!
I can not justify spending $1000 plus for a phone, especially when you can buy devices with relatively clean Android, hardware as good and in some cases better for $100s of dollars less.
How does somebody buy a Samsung device for say $1100.00 when the can but a OnePlus for $600.... ?
For me, the most important factor is the screen. Samsung is the only manufactorer I know that has the best screen, great hardware, and decent software. The bloatware could possibly be removed and I wish it could be cheaper.
I am actually using a Pixel 3 XL now. The software is clean but boring. I am mostly disappointed with the hardware. That I why I am waiting for the GS10.
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For me, the most important factor is the screen. Samsung is the only manufactorer I know that has the best screen, great hardware, and decent software. The bloatware could possibly be removed and I wish it could be cheaper.
I am actually using a Pixel 3 XL now. The software is clean but boring. I am mostly disappointed with the hardware. That I why I am waiting for the GS10.
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Same here lol
Btw, you should try this company, they are offering free cases for s10
https://armadillotek.com/
garyHal said:
For me, the most important factor is the screen. Samsung is the only manufactorer I know that has the best screen, great hardware, and decent software. The bloatware could possibly be removed and I wish it could be cheaper.
I am actually using a Pixel 3 XL now. The software is clean but boring. I am mostly disappointed with the hardware. That I why I am waiting for the GS10.
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I actually love my Pixel 3Xl and got tired of Samsung taking 6 + months to update the phones to new OS. After owning every generation of Note, I got tired of no root and locked down bootloaders. Despite the great screens, I'm staying on the pixel side.
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First thing is that I love the Galaxy series.
Why Samsung??
All I am gonna do is just browse through Internet,social media, capture some decent looking pictures and I need phone with a display which is best in industry and has a great design and build quality.
When I think of all these the only thing that comes to my mind is the Galaxy series. I agree that OP phones are faster than the galaxy series but when it comes design and build samsung is well better.
Best quality display is keeping the samsung unique in the market. Viewing angles is great in samsung displays. Especially in camera it has variable aperture and a super slow motion. And still it has a headphone jack and micro SD slot.
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I understand many people do not care Samsung Devices are loaded with bloatware, but the price !!!!
I can not justify spending $1000 plus for a phone, especially when you can buy devices with relatively clean Android, hardware as good and in some cases better for $100s of dollars less.
How does somebody buy a Samsung device for say $1100.00 when the can but a OnePlus for $600.... ?
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Samsung devices are not, the provider branded versions are, but that is equally true of all branded devices.
The Samsung Device that would be in the $1100 price range is going to be light years more advanced in power, storage, and just tech in general than the $600 one from OnePlus. Now if you Compare the $600 Samsung device to the $600 OnePlus device then you getting closer, but the Samsung device is still going to be more advanced, the gap just will not be nearly as big.
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I actually love my Pixel 3Xl and got tired of Samsung taking 6 + months to update the phones to new OS. After owning every generation of Note, I got tired of no root and locked down bootloaders. Despite the great screens, I'm staying on the pixel side.
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Samsung doesn't take that long, unless it is a rather old phone. The people taking that long are the Wireless providers who take their sweet time removing all the good stuff and adding different bloatware.
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I really wish that Samsung would just start getting some of their CDMA radios from Intel, that way we could get an Exynos chipset with an unlockable bootloader that is easily useable on Verizon and Sprint.
Kaliaila said:
Samsung devices are not, the provider branded versions are, but that is equally true of all branded devices.
The Samsung Device that would be in the $1100 price range is going to be light years more advanced in power, storage, and just tech in general than the $600 one from OnePlus. Now if you Compare the $600 Samsung device to the $600 OnePlus device then you getting closer, but the Samsung device is still going to be more advanced, the gap just will not be nearly as big.
Samsung doesn't take that long, unless it is a rather old phone. The people taking that long are the Wireless providers who take their sweet time removing all the good stuff and adding different bloatware.
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I really wish that Samsung would just start getting some of their CDMA radios from Intel, that way we could get an Exynos chipset with an unlockable bootloader that is easily useable on Verizon and Sprint.
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I beg to differ from you. While preliminary versions of Android Q are already being worked on and tested in the wild, my Note 8 still sits on Oreo. I know there is an unofficial version of Pie for it, but not the official version yet . This is over 7 months after Pie was released. I've had every note that came out except the original. I bought my Note 8 on day 1 when it came out and paid about $950 after taxes. It was by no means a cheap device at the time. At the time, people who had unlocked exynox versions were upset because their updates which were supposed to come directly from Samsung were taking even longer than the carrier ones. Read up on it. Samsung + carrier delays are horrendous. IMO, It's embarrassing that what was once considered their top device would take 7+ months to receive an official software update.
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I beg to differ from you. While preliminary versions of Android Q are already being worked on and tested in the wild, my Note 8 still sits on Oreo. I know there is an unofficial version of Pie for it, but not the official version yet . This is over 7 months after Pie was released. I've had every note that came out except the original. I bought my Note 8 on day 1 when it came out and paid about $950 after taxes. It was by no means a cheap device at the time. At the time, people who had unlocked exynox versions were upset because their updates which were supposed to come directly from Samsung were taking even longer than the carrier ones. Read up on it. Samsung + carrier delays are horrendous. IMO, It's embarrassing that what was once considered their top device would take 7+ months to receive an official software update.
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The Note 9 came out with Oreo as well as pretty much all the other myriad Samsung phones in that same release year. The Note 8 getting Pie only 6 months (the global Samsung release is this month) after Pie is officially released is impressive given the number of phones ahead of it. If your phone is not getting it this month it is due to the branding of your phone and that wireless provider holding it up.
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Global release means nothing if only a few people get it or only a few versions of the phone get it at that time. The point I'm making is that IMO it's pathetic Samsung takes even 6 months to update the OS on a phone that was a flagship when it came out a bit over a year ago. The Note 9 is all they care about right now since it's the latest one out but soon enough once they have your money, they'll care only about the S10. IMO, Samsung has an obligation to upgrade phones quickly and timely, specially on devices they charged nearly 1k and were/had flagship status when released. Meanwhile, phones like the Essential (practically unknown and on sale for $239 on Amazon get it on the day is released by Google). I clearly get the concept of skins added on to the OS to provide extra features which adds to testing time etc... but IMO 6 month + is a pathetic timeline for a flagship phone. As per your thinking, I suggest Samsung adds a disclaimer to the box of a new phone which states "Due to the impressive number of phones made ahead of yours, updates will come on this flagship 6+ months after the official release date". I wonder how many people would buy it if they came clear and admitted it? As much as I love Samsung (proof is that I've owned almost every note), I do not excuse their shortcomings when it comes to OS updates.
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Samsung offer a lot more hardware than a OnePlus. Waterproofing, headphone jack, heart rate scanner, better cooling/heatsink. Also wireless charging, MST payment (very useful in Asian countries where NFC payments are non existent), better screen, better camera.
I have owned both OnePlus(3) and Samsung (Note 8) devices. In general, I have observed that the Note 8 receives monthly updates which are extremely stable. Whereas OnePlus has released half baked updates (like 7.0 for OP3) followed by hotfixes.
Honestly, if OnePlus for still around the 450$ price, it would be unbeatable.
Edit: Forgot pressure sensitive home button.
Apple updates its iOS software incrementally over the year until a revamp of the operating system is released before new iPhones come out in September. The same can also be said of Android where the operating system gets a new refresh once a year. Two different O/S ecosystems, two different O/S update systems. You can't make everyone happy.
LOS support "forever".
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Edit: Forgot pressure sensitive home button.
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Well no more with s10...
The galaxy S10 is actually cheaper than the 2017's iPhone X in my country :/
We can pre order it for 929$ with a free galaxy watch and a free wireless charger, while the iPhone X is for 950$+
Also the apple "lower end" iPhone XR is more expensive than the S10...
I am talking about the regular S10, not the S10 plus or the S10e.
Samsung offers more than apple and is still cheaper, it offers more than any android phone also. They have everything you can ask for in a smartphone.
garyHal said:
For me, the most important factor is the screen. Samsung is the only manufactorer I know that has the best screen, great hardware, and decent software. The bloatware could possibly be removed and I wish it could be cheaper.
I am actually using a Pixel 3 XL now. The software is clean but boring. I am mostly disappointed with the hardware. That I why I am waiting for the GS10.
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New iphones and ipad screens are pretty dang amazing. I didnt think so till my wife won the latest gen ipad pro at work in a contest. The screen is by far superior to any samsung tablet or phone I have seen.
To me there is no other brand other than Samsung - 0 competition. Sammy has everything in one device and that's why I love them. You don't need to have the latest Android update right away as many features are already existent in the device even if it's on an older software version. Best screen, best camera, has headphone jack, ultrasonic fp scanner, super premium build, amazing hardware. List goes on, I'm just waiting for them to get rid of the hole(s) and will get that Note (10 or 11 hopefully).
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To me there is no other brand other than Samsung - 0 competition. Sammy has everything in one device and that's why I love them. You don't need to have the latest Android update right away as many features are already existent in the device even if it's on an older software version. Best screen, best camera, has headphone jack, ultrasonic fp scanner, super premium build, amazing hardware. List goes on, I'm just waiting for them to get rid of the hole(s) and will get that Note (10 or 11 hopefully).
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Note 10 is a definite no. The Note 10 will be pretty much the S10 with a slightly larger screen and S-Pen goodies. They've never strayed too far from the S line when it comes to the Note. It's bigger, more powerful, etc. but it usually doesn't stray far from the S version of its year.
AstroDigital said:
I understand many people do not care Samsung Devices are loaded with bloatware, but the price !!!!
I can not justify spending $1000 plus for a phone, especially when you can buy devices with relatively clean Android, hardware as good and in some cases better for $100s of dollars less.
How does somebody buy a Samsung device for say $1100.00 when the can but a OnePlus for $600.... ?
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1st off I always buy the unlocked version of the latest Galaxy S phone so I do not have all the nasty bloatware which comes from the carriers. The unlocked versions are very clean.
Regarding price, I'm looking at pre-ordering the S10+ for $999 (It will end up costing me $599 after trading in my old phone + using a gift card from xmas) Yes it will be the most I've ever paid for a new phone, but Samsung screens cannot be beat. I love the triple camera (which just received the highest camera rating of any cell phone from DXO - tied with Huawei Mate 20), ultrasonic FP reader, headphone jack, SD card slot, waterproofing, wireless charging, and pre-orders are coming with free Samsung AirPods. I also really like the automatic 42% blue light reduction. That should help alleviate some eye strain. I like that the Sammy AirPods can charge wirelessly by simply setting the case on the back of the phone.
Having said all that, I am disappointed the S10 has only increased the charge rate by 29%. I was hoping for something closer to 100%. That is one area where I feel other phones like OnePlus and Huawei have an advantage in charging speed.
In any case, I will pre-order the S10+, but in the future I will certainly be watching carefully the OnePlus 7, MI 9, and other high end but less expensive phones.
JayRolla said:
New iphones and ipad screens are pretty dang amazing. I didnt think so till my wife won the latest gen ipad pro at work in a contest. The screen is by far superior to any samsung tablet or phone I have seen.
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???... I hope u know that those screens are from Samsung... but nice try