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This seems like a dumb question, but I'm trying to figure out if an unlocked Moto X off of the Motomaker site will fully work on AT&T. I know Motorola sells the "T-Mobile" version as the unlocked one on their site, which is why I put both in the subject. I can't tell by the specs I'm finding if the unlocked version will work or not, and I'm not real familiar with the exact bands needed on Tmobile and AT&T (we just switched from being long time Verizon users). Any help would be appreciated as I'm supposed to pick it up today from another guy!
jntdroid said:
...I'm trying to figure out if an unlocked Moto X off of the Motomaker site will fully work on AT&T...
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Yes.
dew.man said:
Yes.
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Thanks - so if you're paying full retail, there's really zero reason to get the AT&T version vs. the unlocked version off of the motomaker site, it would seem anyway...
jntdroid said:
Thanks - so if you're paying full retail, there's really zero reason to get the AT&T version vs. the unlocked version off of the motomaker site, it would seem anyway...
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Technically, the AT&T version does support one additional LTE band that the TMobile and DevEdition do not. HOWEVER, I've read that that specific band is not used in the US, and my experience has been consistent in that my tmo variant always has LTE coverage whenever my AT&T iPhone does.
I'm leaving Verizon with a T-Mobile motomaker moto x which I'll try on TMs no contract plan. If it doesn't work out, I can always give ATT a try. Seems like a no-brainer to use the TM version.
dew.man said:
Technically, the AT&T version does support one additional LTE band that the TMobile and DevEdition do not. HOWEVER, I've read that that specific band is not used in the US, and my experience has been consistent in that my tmo variant always has LTE coverage whenever my AT&T iPhone does.
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Interesting - trying to dig up some info on 850. But even still, it covers all the other major ones, and worst case scenario you're falling back onto their HSPA+ which is pretty good in and of itself. I live in the DFW area, and I'm here 99% of the time. So I'm sure it won't be an issue.
jntdroid said:
Interesting - trying to dig up some info on 850. But even still, it covers all the other major ones, and worst case scenario you're falling back onto their HSPA+ which is pretty good in and of itself. I live in the DFW area, and I'm here 99% of the time. So I'm sure it won't be an issue.
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The band that the TMO moto x doesn't have is band 5 LTE I think. AT&T only uses 4 and 7 in the US. You're going to be fine getting the tmobile one no matter what GSM carrier you choose.
dew.man said:
Technically, the AT&T version does support one additional LTE band that the TMobile and DevEdition do not. HOWEVER, I've read that that specific band is not used in the US, and my experience has been consistent in that my tmo variant always has LTE coverage whenever my AT&T iPhone does.
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Actually its two LTE bands (5&7) the T-Mo and GSM Dev X lack compared to the ATT US model. But you are right, they are said to be used outside the USA only, so if you don't plan on traveling, you wont miss them.
See the discussion in this thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2546466
And the since the T-Mo is sim unlocked, and can be bootloader unlocked, Right, if you are paying full retail, there is no reason to buy the ATT (which is sim locked and can't unlock bootloader).
KidJoe said:
Actually its two LTE bands (5&7) the T-Mo and GSM Dev X lack compared to the ATT US model.
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Can you please provide a reference to where the AT&T model supports band 7?
Everything I've read shows 5 but not 7...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2511121
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-Moto-X_id7885
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
The hardware in the AT&T model supports LTE band 7, all XT1058s do. However last time I checked the FCC docs it wasn't approved to use it in the US. In 4.2.2 it wasn't enabled in the AT&T build, in 4.4 I believe that it is though. It is used all across Canada and in some other countries, not sure if the US will ever use it though.
dew.man said:
Can you please provide a reference to where the AT&T model supports band 7?
Everything I've read shows 5 but not 7...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2511121
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Motorola-Moto-X_id7885
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1058_Info
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https://plus.google.com/114874428605785658638/posts/fkFtiVpXyHi John Renaldi of Motorola Mobility Inc. You have to scroll down as I can't seem to link to his post/followup on Nov 27.
While the TMO version does in fact have all the AT&T LTE bands (your AT&T SIM will work), the hardware itself does not contain all the same bands as the AT&T version. Our TMO version supports: LTE Band 02; LTE Band 04; LTE Band 17 and the AT&T version supports LTE Band 02; LTE Band 04; LTE Band 05; LTE Band 07; LTE Band 17
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KidJoe said:
https://plus.google.com/114874428605785658638/posts/fkFtiVpXyHi John Renaldi of Motorola Mobility Inc. You have to scroll down as I can't seem to link to his post/followup on Nov 27.
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Cool. Interesting how that's the only place it's mentioned (contrary to all the published specs). Wonder if it was just a slip up or if everybody else got it wrong!?
Oh well, like we both said, won't matter in the US
Ironically enough, I ended up disabling my LTE as HSPDA is fast enough and I get much better battery life with it off...
Hi,
Any way we can unlock global hspa bands on XT1064 similar to Moto G 2013 XT1032?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/unlock-hspa-bands-moto-g-1700mhz-xt1032-t2878441
I would like to activate 2100 for Asian countries.
Thanks in advance.
Moved to correct forum
Any insights?
zoomingrocket,
Did you find any more information on this? I bought an xt1064 on the mistaken data up on gsmarena that the US GSM version supported 2100 in addition to 1700, but now it turns out that it doesn't. I'm no longer in the US, so I can't exchange it. I've searched around for other ways to activate the 2100 band on the xt1064 but haven't found anything. Have you? Have you tried the steps in the link you posted?
Thanks.
Update
For anyone interested, I did go through the steps in the OP's link on my xt1064, with the exception of step 34 which explicitly requires root (mine is not rooted yet, running 5.0.1), and it did NOT unlock the 2100 band for me. So either the tweak isn't effective without root or the radio simply does not support the 2100 band. zoomingrocket, I noticed that you asked in the other thread if root was necessary for it to work. So it sounds like you're in the same situation as I am. I also searched the longer thread (the one not specific to moto G) for anyone who got it to work without root, but I didn't find anything definite. I'm hesitant to try to root now since some people have been having problems doing it on the xt1064, but according to this thread ChainFire has ordered an xt1064 to try to work on a stable root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/xt1064-lollipop-root-t2938051/page11. If you do root it by the other method and try unlocking the band, it would be great if you'd post the results, whether the 2100 band works or not (and I'll do the same if I decide to root either now or after there's a more stable root method). Still holding out hope that it's not a hardware limitation. Thanks!
hi,
well i tried this on mine 1064 model, i was able to add additional bands and remove some, leading to successfully disable sim card to work etc...
re-flashing stock firmware helps with fixing it.
But i still did not enable 3G on mine phone.
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can anybody with 1063 model and some spare time, follow OP and just post screenshots of enabled bands on his phone... pretty please :fingers-crossed:
@mattiawhite, @khawaja00, @zoomingrocket,
I am facing the same problem with XT1064 which I brought from US and only 3G band 2100MHz in use in Sri Lanka where I am living.
1. Were your attempts successful on unlocking 2100MHz band on XT1064 ?
2. Hope it is not a hardware limitation.
I am quite new to this and can someone please put down the steps to unlock bands on XT1064 .
Thanks!
I'm stuck at #8.
I start "QPST Configuration" and don't see my device there. Any advice on this matter?
'Motorola QC Diag Port' is installed properly as described in given links.
Gsmarena and all sites on the web say moto G 2014 support 2100mhz band.
But why doesn't it work in Asian countries which use 2100mhz band?
Did anybody tried this and make it work?
I want to have 3g connection in Europe on my XT1064...
I know the Verizon version has a locked bootloader but Verizon phones do come unlocked. Does anyone know if the 2014 Moto X will work on T-Mobile? I know it has the correct bands but the LTE/HSPA switchoff has issues maybe? I tried searching but couldn't find anything beyond a video saying they could get up to 3G and that was it.
Asking because someone is selling a Verizon Moto X to me for 250 and it seems like a great deal.
I wish I could give you a definitive answer. I had my VZ note 3 running on T mobile with full LTE band 4. I am not sure whether you can add the new VPN without root. Here is the thread for adding the T mobile VPN. Hopefully someone can expand on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2582747
From what I can tell, the CDMA version doesn't have the 1700 band for 4G (HSPA+). Without that, you'll only have 4G (HSPA+) in areas where the 1900 spectrum was refarmed, which is usually major cities. Looks like it definitely has 4G (LTE) on band 4 though.
Short answer: Yes it should work. Also, for 250, you might as well try it and then sell it if it doesn't work out for you.
Hello.
I live in a counntry with both GSM and 4G LTE networks. Reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/help/virgin-mobile-htc-desire-510-gsm-t2965839 for the efforts of unblocking GSM bands thre is something I don't understand. If I buy the Sprint version of the phone, it is posible for me to use it outside USA with a 4G LTE capable SIM without having to unblock GSM Bands? Or do I need to have CDMA support in my country to be able to use the phone?
Thanks.
You would need a CDMA network; it's not working on GSM networks!
ryogishiki said:
Hello.
I live in a counntry with both GSM and 4G LTE networks. Reading this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/desire-510/help/virgin-mobile-htc-desire-510-gsm-t2965839 for the efforts of unblocking GSM bands thre is something I don't understand. If I buy the Sprint version of the phone, it is posible for me to use it outside USA with a 4G LTE capable SIM without having to unblock GSM Bands? Or do I need to have CDMA support in my country to be able to use the phone?
Thanks.
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jdmedeiros said:
You would need a CDMA network; it's not working on GSM networks!
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Understood. Thanks.
ryogishiki said:
Understood. Thanks.
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You could try getting the Cricket or Telus version of the device as they are GSM.
dipspit said:
You could try getting the Cricket or Telus version of the device as they are GSM.
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The thing is, where I live, people are selling this phone very cheap (less than half the price) becasuse isn't posible to unlock it on gsm at the moment.
Did it work for you ?
Did it work for you ? cause I have the exactly the same problem with my device and I don't even know what to do till now
Hello All,
I do often travel around the world. Thats the reason why i choose the OnePlus Nord CE model (the Website promote to support a lot of LTE Bands).
Now I read, that OnePlus disable some LTE Bands for the area outside you live.
I've the EB13BA (EU) model.
Which LTE Bands are supported with that model?
Is it possible to unlock the other Bands?
Will the install of the Global Firmware, unlock the LTE Bands?
Thank you an best regards.
timbach12 said:
Hello All,
I do often travel around the world. Thats the reason why i choose the OnePlus Nord CE model (the Website promote to support a lot of LTE Bands).
Now I read, that OnePlus disable some LTE Bands for the area outside you live.
I've the EB13BA (EU) model.
Which LTE Bands are supported with that model?
Is it possible to unlock the other Bands?
Will the install of the Global Firmware, unlock the LTE Bands?
Thank you an best regards.
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A prepaid SIM such as "SIM2Fly", which is used temporarily when traveling, will probably work fine.
By the way, my "EB13AA" is
Gsm: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
Wcdma: v1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE-FDD: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28/66
LTE-TDD: B38/39/40/41
The number of bands is very wide, so the question is probably whether you need "VoLTE" or not.
For Japanese carrier SIMs, many are "VoLTE", so this phone without it enabled will be a Wi-fi only device.
In fact I have been working on that problem for a very long time, and I was able to turn it on only when the OS was "11.0.1.1.EB13AA", but all later OSes were impossible.
There is a bias in the OS files available, and "11.0.1.1.EB13AA" is not currently available on the Internet.
hy, thank you for your reply. I downloaded the 11.0.1.1.EB13AA version on the OnePlus site. But im not sure if it will unlock other LTE Bands. As i say i have the European and not the Global version. Is there a diffrent between a travel SIM and a native SIM?
timbach12 said:
hy, thank you for your reply. I downloaded the 11.0.1.1.EB13AA version on the OnePlus site. But im not sure if it will unlock other LTE Bands. As i say i have the European and not the Global version. Is there a diffrent between a travel SIM and a native SIM?
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In most cases, a travel SIM can be plugged into a device to get a signal and use it.
I don't know the specifics of the SIM, but the travel SIM should cover the common LTE bands.
And
OnePlus will disable some LTE bands in the area outside where you live.
Even if this is true, it should not disable common LTE bands in the world, such as B3/B20.
This is mostly speculation, but I hope it helps.
If you are unsure, it is fun to flash globalROM boldly.