Related
The Nexus 7 was my very first tablet and in spite of Apple's obnoxious claims it is a great device and I certainly don't understand what advantages a thin aluminum back has over plastic. While I truly admire the openness of the stock android experience, I was completely underwhelmed by the display's washed out color and overall sharpness/clarity. I gave the device an honest try and rooted it as well as tried a few ROMs. While I was completely happy with the amount of development and amazing ROMs that are available I just couldn't get over the color issue. So I returned it and exchanged it for the new Kindle fire HD.
Immediately I could tell the difference... the display, unbelievably, was perfectly calibrated based on a slew of websites that I used to calibrate my monitors at home. I realize that I lost the openness of android and the ability to flash custom ROMs, but I have happy with what the device is capable of out of the box. I mainly got the device to watch movies and play games while I'm on the road which is a lot and it does that very well. To make up for the loss of openness I saved $50 and put it towards the 3rd party 2-year warranty which was actually cheaper than the N7's due to the Kindle being considered an E-Reader which was pretty convenient.
Interesting you say this, because I only experience washed out colours after video playback. I think this is due to a software issue on nVidias end and am hoping it gets fixed with 4.2. I'm happy you like your Kindle but seriously, why post this in a N7 forum? You're just going to get a load of hate as to how the N7 is better. I for one agree with those haters. I. Buy an android over a iOS device because it is open and customisable, the Kindle is neither customisable or open.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
Other way for me.. picked up the KFHD and couldn't cope with it's half gimped android system that I went to the N7 and been happy since. Don't get me wrong, the KFHD has awesome hardware and better color calibration, I could notice the difference, especially since I had both in hand but since I returned it, I haven't missed anything from the KFHD.
The locked Amazon ecosystem was a real turn off for me, but if it works for you, great. Everyone has different needs and wants.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
Believe me I did my research on the issue. I wanted to keep the device and it wasn't an easy decision. But for what it's worth, the specs of the Kindle are better, the color quality is certainly better, and the Kindle UI isn't all that bad. I was able to root it and put Google Play on it so really all I lost was complete customization even though I can use a different launcher.
I posted it here as a reference to anyone else looking to get the device... Again, the N7 is great and would have preferred to keep it, but it just didn't work for me and honestly I expected more from Asus/nVidia because an issue such as this is hard not to notice and should have been fixed before release.
tkoreaper said:
the specs of the Kindle are better.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you're gonna get hammered on this one... :silly:
Kindle is heavier... only has dual core 1.2.... half the battery life... no NFC... no true android OS... missing out on tegra gaming
Not argueing with your opinion of "liking" the kindle ... but it doesn't have better specs
Only thing they snuck in there was the nice dual band dual antenna wifi setup... that's a better spec
And the washed out color thing is just opinion... I don't even see it... but I'm not that picky about that I guess...
I messed around with the KFHD the other day and there's no way I would give up the nexus 7 specs for marginally better color rendering... nope
b00mb00mchuck said:
you're gonna get hammered on this one... :silly:
Kindle is heavier... only has dual core 1.2.... half the battery life... no NFC... no true android OS... missing out on tegra gaming
Not argueing with your opinion of "liking" the kindle ... but it doesn't have better specs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No GPS, no fast updates,... no GAPPs
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
b00mb00mchuck said:
you're gonna get hammered on this one... :silly:
Kindle is heavier... only has dual core 1.2.... half the battery life... no NFC... no true android OS... missing out on tegra gaming
Not argueing with your opinion of "liking" the kindle ... but it doesn't have better specs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is heavier yes, but the processor is at the very least the same if not better based on several sources, Amazon claims to have 1 more hour over the N7 (Though that could change with different ROM's and Kernels), sound is better, and the wireless is better. NFC/GPS is about the only thing (hardware-wise) that the N7 has over it.
Most of the Gapps can be installed and I have heard of several users getting pretty accurate locations using wireless and google maps.
tkoreaper said:
It is heavier yes, but the processor is at the very least the same if not better based on several sources, Amazon claims to have 1 more hour over the N7 (Though that could change with different ROM's and Kernels), sound is better, and the wireless is better. NFC/GPS is about the only thing (hardware-wise) that the N7 has over it.
Most of the Gapps can be installed and I have heard of several users getting pretty accurate locations using wireless and google maps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have the Kindle Fire 7 HD or 8.9HD?
The processor in the 7 sucks compared to Tegra 3,with the larger Fire have a comparable one.
And for what it's worth, all colors issues seemed solved with the new 4.1.2 update. Though have fun with your Kindle.
Nospin said:
Do you have the Kindle Fire 7 HD or 8.9HD?
The processor in the 7 sucks compared to Tegra 3,with the larger Fire have a comparable one.
And for what it's worth, all colors issues seemed solved with the new 4.1.2 update. Though have fun with your Kindle.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The 7 is the only one that's out. The 8.9 comes out next month. I'm no expert, but if you google the comparisons and look at the CPU discussions you'll find that what I said is true. The Fire's CPU is on par or better... not worse. I also had 4.1.2 on the Nexus I had.
tkoreaper said:
It is heavier yes, but the processor is at the very least the same if not better based on several sources, Amazon claims to have 1 more hour over the N7
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you're thinking that 1.2GHz dual core OMAP is as good as 1.3GHz quad core TEGRA 3... you're reading the wrong reviews... look at a non biased site like CNET... they do their own testing and show half the battery life playing video
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I googled like you said but I keep seeing the same stories
tkoreaper said:
The 7 is the only one that's out. The 8.9 comes out next month. I'm no expert, but if you google the comparisons and look at the CPU discussions you'll find that what I said is true. The Fire's CPU is on par or better... not worse. I also had 4.1.2 on the Nexus I had.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
THe Kindle HD 7 uses the OMAP4460 SoC, which is the same one found on the Galaxy Nexus. It's an cortex A9 dual core with a GPU that is also found in the original Samsung Galaxy and Nexus S, but overclocked. Tegra with is a cortex A9 quad core with a more advanced GPU. The OMAP4470 found in the 8.9" Kindle is another story. It does have a better GPU than the older OMAP 4460 but how it compares to the Tegra 3 GPU I am not sure.
Also, according to Displaymate, the Nexus 7 LCD panel is actually pretty decent. It is just hindered by bad software calibration which can be corrected with an update.
NexusDro said:
THe Kindle HD 7 uses the OMAP4460 SoC, which is the same one found on the Galaxy Nexus. It's an cortex A9 dual core with a GPU that is also found in the original Samsung Galaxy and Nexus S, but overclocked. Tegra with is a cortex A9 quad core with a more advanced GPU. The OMAP4470 found in the 8.9" Kindle is another story. It does have a better GPU than the older OMAP 4460 but how it compares to the Tegra 3 GPU I am not sure.
Also, according to Displaymate, the Nexus 7 LCD panel is actually pretty decent. It is just hindered by bad software calibration which can be corrected with an update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with you 100% that the 4460 is behind the Tegra in raw specs. But having both of them my Galaxy Nexus out performs my N7 in daily use, it'll run circles. Both are running the same nightly on CM10. I think it has more to do with a slow EMMC, but that may be why the OP feels the 4460 is better.
I do wish Asus built better products though
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
In all fairness I may just take this Kindle back on Monday and pick up the 32GB Nexus if they have it and hope that it doesn't have the same issues since it's newer. The ads on the KF are a bit obtrusive and annoying to say the least.
tkoreaper said:
In all fairness I may just take this Kindle back on Monday and pick up the 32GB Nexus if they have it and hope that it doesn't have the same issues since it's newer. The ads on the KF are a bit obtrusive and annoying to say the least.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't let people change your mind, Like I said in my first post. This is what you get for posting the fact you have a KFHD in the N7 forum, people will rip you for it. If you like your KF keep it.
CJHolderUK said:
Don't let people change your mind, Like I said in my first post. This is what you get for posting the fact you have a KFHD in the N7 forum, people will rip you for it. If you like your KF keep it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1
Don't succumb to peer pressure, keep what you want and works for you.
Like mentioned above, you're in the N7 section, people here will favor that device.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
tkoreaper said:
In all fairness I may just take this Kindle back on Monday and pick up the 32GB Nexus if they have it and hope that it doesn't have the same issues since it's newer. The ads on the KF are a bit obtrusive and annoying to say the least.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The fact that you paid good money for it and they splash ads on it is the dealbreaker for me. If they subsidized it maybe I could understand.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
tkoreaper said:
In all fairness I may just take this Kindle back on Monday and pick up the 32GB Nexus if they have it and hope that it doesn't have the same issues since it's newer. The ads on the KF are a bit obtrusive and annoying to say the least.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have a 32gb Nexus from Office Depot and the screen is exactly the same as the 16gb I had.
The Nexus is a better unit hardware wise but its whatever you like. The screen is something you spend a lot of time looking at. So make sure you are happy with it. Trinity kernels come pre-color calibrated to give that pop. Still might not be enough for your tastes though.
On the other hand you can flash custom roms on the Fire.
In my experience though, roms on those kinds of devices are far from perfect. May not be bad now but with newer Android versions, things will be missing and/or not 100%. Nexus devices really have longevity in this regards. Even in a few years, we'll still have the latest and greatest updates.
Updates and support won me over. Else I'd look at the Galaxy Tab 7 2. Walmart had them on sale for $249. Samsung would give you a true tablet experience and a nice screen... but updates from Samsung are sparse too.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
altimax98 said:
I agree with you 100% that the 4460 is behind the Tegra in raw specs. But having both of them my Galaxy Nexus out performs my N7 in daily use, it'll run circles. Both are running the same nightly on CM10. I think it has more to do with a slow EMMC, but that may be why the OP feels the 4460 is better.
I do wish Asus built better products though
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure what I'm doing wrong or you're doing wrong but my nexus 7 runs circles around my Galaxy Nexus. Both running cm10 also. If there is an app updating in the background my gnex is frustratingly slow, the 7 just flies.
Either way the Kindle is probably the better consumption device, but less capable overall and for most of us a non starter due to the os.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Good glad to see you didn't get sucked into Apple and their bs !
I waited until 7.2.2 to upgrade my Kindle HD from its starting OS version. I noticed that only a few folks mentioned improved responsiveness on the interface. After testing for a day, I notice shorter start-up times and much better UI smoothness. The change on my Kindle HD is very noticeable, the pausing and lagging between screens is almost gone now. Are others noticing a major speed improvement since 7.1.5?
Xyth said:
I waited until 7.2.2 to upgrade my Kindle HD from its starting OS version. I noticed that only a few folks mentioned improved responsiveness on the interface. After testing for a day, I notice shorter start-up times and much better UI smoothness. The change on my Kindle HD is very noticeable, the pausing and lagging between screens is almost gone now. Are others noticing a major speed improvement since 7.1.5?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think so. I thought it was much slower than original Kindle. Now it feels smooth. Even the kindle book app would be slow to respond after waking the device. Now, I haven't seen that problem. It's much smoother all around.
Agee. Tablet is running much faster and smoother than before.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using xda premium
Hi,
I'm considering buying Nook HD or HD+. The screen size is not an important issue for me. The only thing that matters to me is the processing speed. I know HD+ is at 1.5 and HD is at 1.3, but I read somewhere that they both use the exact same chip? If so, I'm guessing that once I install a custom ROM, I can use HD at 1.5 anyway, thus removing any reason to pay more for HD+? I don't own either, so I would like to hear from you current owners. Please share your thoughts and advice.
Thank you,
GT
I have both running CyanogenMod 10.1.3 at the moment (gave the HD+ to my father, and the Nook HD to my mother). Personally I find that the HD runs smoother, and the HD+ is a little slower then the HD (but you most likely won't notice it). It may be that they both have the same chipset, and with the HD, it only has to push a ~720p screen resolution, compared to the HD+ (which has a 10.1" screen with ~1080p resolution).
It's completely up to you, and your preference of screen size and resolution. The HD has slightly more than 720p resolution, and the HD+ has slightly more than a 1080p resolution.
Personally I prefer the Nook HD, due to it's compact size and portability (can almost take it anywhere); but the HD+ is great for watching videos.
All the best.
P.S. I find that there are more compatible apps for the HD, as it has a 720p resolution; but I last checked around 8 months ago. By now most apps could support the 1080 resolution, so there could be equal support for both tablets. But I'm not entirely sure, the HD should definitely be supported with most apps however.
goldentequila said:
Hi,
I'm considering buying Nook HD or HD+. The screen size is not an important issue for me. The only thing that matters to me is the processing speed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have both, each running 10.1.3. I ran benchmarks on both so FWIW, here are the results. HD shown first, then HD+
Quadrant: 2721, 2827
Antutu: 13234, 13324
Super Pi: 25.3, 24.3 (lower is better)
As you can see, they are pretty darn close.
while I do miss the portability of a 7 being able to easily read comics and magazines more than makes up for it. So it really depends what you want to do with the device.
Thank you, everyone. They are all very helpful. I appreciate it
As others have said, it kinda depends on what you want to use it for. I have the HD plus, and my wife has the HD. I use it for videos, so really appreciate the bigger screen. She uses it mostly for email, browsing, and watching her work-out videos, but doesn't need the bigger screen. She really appreciates the portability of the smaller device. Both are excellent.
My wife has the stock ROM with the free version of ADW launcher, which she has configured to her liking. I have CM11 nightlies which I update every week or so.
Anyway, we're both very happy with each device. Pick the one that best fits how you think you will use it and I'm sure you will be happy with it.
Sent from my LG-LS855 using Tapatalk 2
Looking for a cheap tablet for a little gaming and internet, I am stuck between this, Nexus 7 and Asus memopad HD 7.
Can the Kindle play Fifa 14 smoothly?
Thanks guys.
AndroidInsanity said:
Looking for a cheap tablet for a little gaming and internet, I am stuck between this, Nexus 7 and Asus memopad HD 7.
Can the Kindle play Fifa 14 smoothly?
Thanks guys.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you overclock the CPU a bit and keep your RAM clean,I don't know why it won't. Keep in mind that space is a small issue.
Do you guys think the wifi version of the galaxy tab s 8.4 will be able to run hearthstone no problem wuthout the Snapdragon 800 or the Adreno 330?
I also like to know that, I bought this tablet mainly to play hearthstone
I found this on reddit, it seems that Blizzard leaked this information on their website and then removed after.
It is possible to predict if the galaxy tab S will run hearthstone with this information? When I say run, I hope to run without any lag with decent graphics :|
Code:
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS
Hardware 6-inch screen or larger
Operating System Android 4.0 or later
Memory 1 GB RAM
VERIFIED DEVICES
The following devices are verified to run Hearthstone well:
Amazon Kindle Fire HD 6 (2014)
Amazon Kindle Fire HD 7 (2014)
Amazon Kindle Fire HDX 7 (2013)
Amazon Kindle Fire HDX 7 (2014)
Amazon Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 (2014)
Asus Google Nexus 7
Huawei MediaPad X1
NVIDIA SHIELD Tablet
Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3 I9200
Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0
Samsung Galaxy Note LTE 10.1 N8020
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014)
Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4
Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet LTE
Note: The Asus Transformer Pad TF300T is incompatible with Hearthstone. Devices with PowerVR 540/544 GPUs may experience graphical issues. Updating your device to the latest version of your operating system may address these issues. Android 5.0 (Lollipop) and Fire OS 4.5.1 are recommended.
it's running great on mine!
Kennay said:
it's running great on mine!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very Laggy indeed on mine.
It looks good though.
Surprised they didn't support this model from the off.
Does it lag or runs it smooth?
I am using Tab S 8.4 WIFI
well for me its extremely laggy when theres a few cards on the table.
It playable , but slow. I'm sure things will be improved though
Also laggy for me. Completely playable, but my Nexus 5 runs it more smoothly.
I wouldn't say its overly laggy
feels fine on my 10.5 Tab S - only really laggy when it does the spinning choosing an opponent
played around 5 games last night with no issue
What set up is everyone using, I'm using T805 and the game starts but can't get past start screen, my touch doesn't work from there
Strange, not laggy at all for me running SkyHigh-Kernel and GPU @ 533 mhz. As a PC gamer I am sensitive to low fps, but the game appears to me perfectly smooth. It just pauses a bit longer to load new elements compared to the PC version.
How do you guys keep screen on while playing, jusy increase screen on timer?
Just installed the game to try it out on Lollipop, no lag what so ever, very smooth
The Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 edition has the same processor so should run well according to that list.
Playing it on Lollipop Rom and all appears fine and smooth
so i am the only one who has annoying lag on 10.5 tab with Exynos processor? (stock things)
T705 here and it's running like a charm.
running absolutely fine on mine without lag. Tab S 8.4 WIFI fully stock.
Rossco01 said:
running absolutely fine on mine without lag. Tab S 8.4 WIFI fully stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you removed something from the system or did some modification? I'm using the stock version, and the game its not running without lag
Arc0nt3 said:
you removed something from the system or did some modification? I'm using the stock version, and the game its not running without lag
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just running stock but with Nova as the launcher.