Need your advise what to do HP Touch Pad - TouchPad Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello to everyone ... I'm new here and I register to site because I notice on google this site about what one can do with the HP Touch Pad and I'm hoping to get this unit up to par . I must say I never used before it was given to me by a family member and I just never bother using it until this week as to what I could do with it . So just to add it has 16gb and what is installed is HP TouchPad webOS 3.0.5 which seem to be pretty useless . Also, CyanogenMod ..... cm_tenderloin build .... Android 4.1.2 ... Kernel version 2.6.35-palm-tenderloin Mar 3 2013 . Now I have seen threads in this forum towards this pad . My question is what would you do with it if you had what I have install ? If I'm correct the webOS is pretty much a waste to have, yes ? And, if I were to get the latest Android build what would you suggest I do ? Thanks to anyone the replies

Anyone want to help out a total noob with this touch pad ? What I would like if possible from someone who would give me directions is installing the latest Android . I don't need what's on there now and would just love to run the latest Android if possible, wipe the whole thing clean and do a clean install of Android only .... I know for many from what's on this forum the threads in doing this stuff is easy but the more I read the more I'm confused . So if someone would be kind and tell me what I need to download ? What I have downloaded is Java, Novacom installer and TPToolbox v42. Which one is the Android latest ? And if there anything else I need to download ? Thanks

Dude905 said:
Anyone want to help out a total noob with this touch pad ? What I would like if possible from someone who would give me directions is installing the latest Android . I don't need what's on there now and would just love to run the latest Android if possible, wipe the whole thing clean and do a clean install of Android only .... I know for many from what's on this forum the threads in doing this stuff is easy but the more I read the more I'm confused . So if someone would be kind and tell me what I need to download ? What I have downloaded is Java, Novacom installer and TPToolbox v42. Which one is the Android latest ? And if there anything else I need to download ? Thanks
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Thanks for responding with a link that I have had a look at and again this stuff maybe seem basic to understand to most but I'm not getting it . This is why I'm asking questions is a very slow pace understanding . Again, if anyone would be so kind to help me out with one step at a time it would be greatly appreciated . I'm using a PC with windows 7 . My tablet I don't care to back it up or upgrade it or save anything . I want to wipe it all off and install I believe Marshmallow which I believe is the latest Andriod, yes ? Though I am not sure which file I need for it . What I have downloaded onto my computer is UniversalNovacomInstaller, TPToolbox v42 and java . Can you tell me what else I need ? Thanks

Just an update as to what I have done. I downloaded and installed both the java and the UniversalNovacomInstaller 1-4-1 . I have the TPTool v42 on my desktop. I rebooted the tablet into recovery mode . I double click on the tptb_v42_win.bat file and get >> Cannot find Touchpad Toolbox binary file TPToolbox-2015-01-00-v42.bin ... press any key to continue and nothing happens after that . Is the TPToolbox corrupted or am I missing something? Thanks

No wonder I was confused I couldn't get the tptoolbox to load . Once I uninstalled the UniversalNovacomInstaller 1-4-1 and all its traces and reinstalled I got the toolbox to load . Now I am off to learn to understand as to how to install android . One question if someone would be kind enough if I place these zip files >>> cm-13.0 tenderloin , flintman TWRP touch data media , gapps 444 - base in my Touchpad ttinstall folder am I on the right track?

Well it look like flintman TWRP touch data media doesn't work, got an error for it . So basically I wanted to install Marshmallow but I don't believe I have the correct files for it . So what I have downloaded now are >>> [ROM] Evervolv | 6.0.0p1 [AOSP Marshmallow 6.0.1] [3.4 kernel] [nightlies] With DM , gapps-601-base-20160606-1-signed.zip . My question now is for the recovery file will any do or does it have to be a certain one to go these other files, and if so, which recovery file should I download, thanks

That didn't work either above but I did manager to get 5.1 installed . Now that I got a OS installed the guide make sense but when a newbie is learning and the dame NovacomInstaller isn't working it sure can make matter very confusing

Dude905,
Novacom is a webOS tool/driver and before TP Toolbox was released was the way to load up Android. As you already had Android installed you would also have had TWRP or CWM. These could be used to flash the latest version of themselves or even go to the Play store and install TWRP Manager. From there, you just needed to download a ROM and use TWRP (I prefer) to install the ROM and relevant GAPPS (Google Play Store stuff).
The TPToolkit works well with 4.x and 5.x but not 6.x or 7.x yet. Everything you need to get 4 or 5 working should be listed in the TP Toolbox thread. The problem is there is a lot of info to read and understand.

Thanks for responding. As a Windows user which I never used anything but learning this stuff does take a lot of reading . I have a better understand of it than when I first started. I wouldn't say I'm there yet 50% maybe but at least I was able to install KitKat 5.1 thanks to the easy to use TPToolbox, that dude made my life easier and he deserves a big THANK YOU . If by chance he does created TPToolbox for 6 and 7 that would be really good news and I would even throw him a few dollars for it .

I've been reading through this forum for the last couple days - haven't started anything. This post is EXACTLY where I'm starting. I have Webos and cyanogen -
Android 4.2.2
2.6.35-palm-tenderloin
Cyanogenmod version 10.1-20130330-unofficial tenderloin
Build Date Mar 29, 2013
Anyway - I want to do the same thing. I'm building this for my kid - and would like it as up to date as possible.
Do I wipe it clean or do I have it set up to just load a new rom already? I completely forget how I did all this. I got to a point where all I had to do was copy a file over and reboot. Again, I forget how I got it to this point. I haven't touched this touchpad in more that 2 years. I spent yesterday charging it and wondering if it would ever turn on. Took like 10 hours to charge!
Dude905 - think you could point me where you started?

@osubg1 sure no problem if I can. Remember though I too am learning but I was able to load Kitkat on both of mine tablets . Now I basically didn't care to keep WebOS since I myself find no use for it . Ok, So what I done was first download java onto my computer . Then I downloaded that easy to use Tptoolbox v42 . After that I put these 3 into a folder >> cm-12.1-20151116-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin.zip, FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip and gapps-511-base-20160929-1-signed.zip . I then download the UniversalNovacomInstaller-1.4.1.jar. What I done was place Tptoolbox and UNovacominstaller in a folder together . So I have 2 folders One for the Tptoolbox and UNovacominstaller and the other with >> cm-12.1-20151116-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin.zip, FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip and gapps-511-base-20160929-1-signed.zip.... Now I unzip the TPtoolbox within the folder so it would all be in that folder . I then installed UniversalNovacomInstaller-1.4.1.jar, afterwards I loaded the Tablet into the WebOS recovery mode and once that was done I plug it into the computer . Now there going to be a time when the UniversalNovacomInstaller will pop up a folder ttinstall and you need to copy cm-12.1-20151116-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin.zip, FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-2.8.3.0-12-23-14.zip and gapps-511-base-20160929-1-signed.zip.... into that folder . I then started tptb_v42_win.bat file from the Tptoolbox at which time you'll notice it loading to the tablet . I then selected wipe it all from the selection and click yes 3 times . Once that was done I selected to install at which time you unmounted and start the installation process . Now this is just for KitKat which isn't the latest Android but it's good enough for what I need it for . If you want the latest I believe you need to flash it within kitkat but I haven't read up on that part to much . I hope it helps and if you get stuck I will try to help you through it . good luck

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[Q] How to Fresh install CM 10.2 on HP Touchpad

I have 2 year old Touchpad that was running Android 4.2.2 and tried to update to 4.3.1 and trashed it. I was running CM 7, upgraded to 9, then 10, then 10.1. I did everything to try and salvage it and read every article possible with NO luck.
SO, I decide to use Acme Uninstaller to remove it, but had issues seeing the Partition and it wanted to FORMAT - I did NOT FORMAT because everyone said not to.
SO then I did a factory reset on the Touchpad and erased it. This worked and allowed me to try and get back to CM 10.2.
The problem is that I cannot find a single installation method that shows the simplest steps to install CM10.2 ( Android 4.3 ) without having to install older version of CM9, or CM10.
I have tried every possible article and method and so far here is what I am stuck with.
I can install CM9 with Moboot BUT CWM and TWRP will not install so I cannot update GAPS.
I erased and then tried using the TAILOR Web OS app to increase the OS partitions from 400mb to 600 mb and that installed fine.
Then I installed CM 10 using ACMEInstaller 3 and it boot loops.
Then I tried CM 10.2 using ACMEinstaller3 and it will not install and says the package is invalid.
It seems like something do to with the partitions and that is why I cannot installed CWM, TWRP or GAPS or even an update.
The only thing I have NOT done is use WEB OS Dr. because I thought this is for when WEB OS is trashed.
I know this seems like a re-post but it really isnt
IF anyone has a simple document that details exactly how a Touchpad should be correctly erased and then install a fresh CM10.2, I would really appreciated it.
There just does not seem to be any articles or you tube videos that show this processes.
I am sure there are a lot of people that would benefit from a guide for CM9, CM10 or CM.2 by doing a complete erase and start over.
I have started writing my own documents but of course I cannot finish it.
Please help and point me in the correct direction because I am stuck with only WEB OS.
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I have 2 year old Touchpad that was running Android 4.2.2 and tried to update to 4.3.1 and trashed it. I was running CM 7, upgraded to 9, then 10, then 10.1. I did everything to try and salvage it and read every article possible with NO luck.
SO, I decide to use Acme Uninstaller to remove it, but had issues seeing the Partition and it wanted to FORMAT - I did NOT FORMAT because everyone said not to.
SO then I did a factory reset on the Touchpad and erased it. This worked and allowed me to try and get back to CM 10.2.
The problem is that I cannot find a single installation method that shows the simplest steps to install CM10.2 ( Android 4.3 ) without having to install older version of CM9, or CM10.
I have tried every possible article and method and so far here is what I am stuck with.
I can install CM9 with Moboot BUT CWM and TWRP will not install so I cannot update GAPS.
I erased and then tried using the TAILOR Web OS app to increase the OS partitions from 400mb to 600 mb and that installed fine.
Then I installed CM 10 using ACMEInstaller 3 and it boot loops.
Then I tried CM 10.2 using ACMEinstaller3 and it will not install and says the package is invalid.
It seems like something do to with the partitions and that is why I cannot installed CWM, TWRP or GAPS or even an update.
The only thing I have NOT done is use WEB OS Dr. because I thought this is for when WEB OS is trashed.
I know this seems like a re-post but it really isnt
IF anyone has a simple document that details exactly how a Touchpad should be correctly erased and then install a fresh CM10.2, I would really appreciated it.
There just does not seem to be any articles or you tube videos that show this processes.
I am sure there are a lot of people that would benefit from a guide for CM9, CM10 or CM.2 by doing a complete erase and start over.
I have started writing my own documents but of course I cannot finish it.
Please help and point me in the correct direction because I am stuck with only WEB OS.
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I too am having a confusing time with my TP. I've tried a few ROMs and I just want to basically erase everything and install a single, fresh new ROM. I haven't touched my TP in quite a while so i've forgotten all the confusing steps it took to originally root it. Some guidance would be great.
Finally have CM 10.2 / Android 4.3.1 installed
I wanted to let you know that I was FINALLY able to get a fresh install of CM 10.2 / Android 4.3.1 installed using the NEW ACMEInstaller 5 T.
I also used the ACMEUNINSTALL2 that was re-posted.
So I plan on Factory wiping my Touchpad so that I can document the process from beginning to end and if it works, then I will post my instructions.
Of course I make no guarantees like everyone else states, but I am following pieces and parts of what everyone else posts and just trying to make a simpler guide. There are lots of guides but nothing that seems to work at all for me and lots of other people are saying the same thing.
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I too am having a confusing time with my TP. I've tried a few ROMs and I just want to basically erase everything and install a single, fresh new ROM. I haven't touched my TP in quite a while so i've forgotten all the confusing steps it took to originally root it. Some guidance would be great.
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Modernised ROM install

After having the HP Touchpad sitting on the shelf for one year, I decided to install a newer KitKat ROM to get rid of blacked out mail content and web pages that appeared after the initial move 2013 to KitKat 4.4
First I tried to figure out my current setup, because of what I learned a repartioning would be needed to support the current ROMS with there media/data structure that had been introduced with the newer builds.
I run CyanogenMod 11-20131118-UNOFFICIAL-tenderloin build-no. cm_tenderloin-userdebug 4.4 KRT16M 05dd1588ec test-keys with a 2.6.35 kernel on with moboot 038 and CWM 5026
SD-Card info shows 25,42 GB internal storage 1,48G
Back then I used tailor or a similiar tool to resize
A good info about the newer tools I found was lilyputing:
http://liliputing.com/2014/06/use-touchpad-toolbox-install-android-erase-webos-hp-touchpad.html
Wasn't sure about how to proceed while no updates showed up using the built-in updtae check function and of course Roland's Tutorials had been the first place I went heading to as well:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/179730-r...-with-jcsullins-tptoolbox-the-super-easy-way/
Now I am stuck with getting TP Toolbox to work. Novacom still installed on the windows 7 box, but not connecting to the touchpad.
I booted into WebOs recovery using the moboot selector, but...
Leaving the WebOS recovery was done then by pressing the home and power buttons simultaneously for about 20secs until the tablet rebooted.
I guess I have to move on, leaving WebOS because support ends January 2015 and even connecting to google mail is getting complicated under WebOS.
The current ROM is not working well, so I need an update. Any suggestions?
BTW: I thought to move on to JCSullins ROM, because the 20141231 build had good feedback regarding stability and number of bugs, especially energy consumption. Anyway it doesn't show up any more on the list of downloadable ROMS since yesterday.
[email protected] said:
After having the HP Touchpad sitting on the shelf for one year, I decided to install a newer KitKat ROM to get rid of blacked out mail content and web pages that appeared after the initial move 2013 to KitKat 4.4
First I tried to figure out my current setup, because of what I learned a repartioning would be needed to support the current ROMS with there media/data structure that had been introduced with the newer builds.
I run CyanogenMod 11-20131118-UNOFFICIAL-tenderloin build-no. cm_tenderloin-userdebug 4.4 KRT16M 05dd1588ec test-keys with a 2.6.35 kernel on with moboot 038 and CWM 5026
SD-Card info shows 25,42 GB internal storage 1,48G
Back then I used tailor or a similiar tool to resize
A good info about the newer tools I found was lilyputing:
http://liliputing.com/2014/06/use-touchpad-toolbox-install-android-erase-webos-hp-touchpad.html
Wasn't sure about how to proceed while no updates showed up using the built-in updtae check function and of course Roland's Tutorials had been the first place I went heading to as well:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/179730-r...-with-jcsullins-tptoolbox-the-super-easy-way/
Now I am stuck with getting TP Toolbox to work. Novacom still installed on the windows 7 box, but not connecting to the touchpad.
I booted into WebOs recovery using the moboot selector, but...
Leaving the WebOS recovery was done then by pressing the home and power buttons simultaneously for about 20secs until the tablet rebooted.
I guess I have to move on, leaving WebOS because support ends January 2015 and even connecting to google mail is getting complicated under WebOS.
The current ROM is not working well, so I need an update. Any suggestions?
BTW: I thought to move on to JCSullins ROM, because the 20141231 build had good feedback regarding stability and number of bugs, especially energy consumption. Anyway it doesn't show up any more on the list of downloadable ROMS since yesterday.
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Maybe ask in proper thread and not development. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431949
Assuming at some time soon a mod will lock this or move it...but until then...
Might want to check out the Evervolv 5 (Lollipop) ROM. It's the latest version of Android, and for the most part works well on the Touchpad. Otherwise, jcusllins, milaq and a few others have sustainable builds that are worth using if you want to stay on Kit Kat.
Been using Evervolv 5 for everything but work e-mail due to missing encryption, but otherwise I have no real issues with the builds.
--McBean
Could solve the install task. The novacom service had to be enabled first.
I'm wondering why some guides claim to use ACMEuninstaller to uninstall Android first. Tptoolbox will wipe cache and data anyway, right?
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Could solve the install task. The novacom service had to be enabled first.
I'm wondering why some guides claim to use ACMEuninstaller to uninstall Android first. Tptoolbox will wipe cache and data anyway, right?
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Thats the only way we had until tp toolbox was released with that capability.
Ah, I see.
Novacom provides similar functions like ADB more (or) less.
TPTOOLBOX needs to be pushed first. After initial setup the recovery mods do the job to install other ROMs, right?
I got Philz CWRM on the tablet. Is TWRP preferable?
With the jcsullins from november I cant get bluetooth to work and battery drain is high. Especially compared to WebOS which let me have the tablet in sleep mode for a week or so.
Now battery is going down in half a day. I think I give the A6 flush from TPTOOLBOX a try as soon as the december ROM from jcsullins is back online again to solve the bluetooth issue.

Newbie ROM update success

Hi, I'm a newbie here. I want to say thanks to xda-developers for helping me thru the painful process of updating my P970 from 4.0.4 to 4.4.4 - and Wow, what a difference!!!
I want to give a few details of what I did, and what worked and didn't work. Firstly, I'd like to stress I did this on my OLD phone (my current phone is a Moto G running Android 5), so I had nothing to lose if I did brick it.
The Big NOOB how-to! and Upgrade Kit 3.7.5 |App 2 | Root, Flash, Unbrick, Tuts…were REALLY USEFUL but some of links were out-of-date or didn’t work so I had to do some searching around to find the downloads I needed.
I used Kingo ROOT to root my phone. I copied the latest NamelessROM Nightly to the SD card. At this stage I tried taking a shortcut and tried to use firstly ROM Installer and then ROM Manager to install the ROM. Neither of these apps worked and ROM Manager installed CWM which, I understand, is a no-no if you’re trying to update from 4.0.4 ICS v30B. It was at this stage I got the dreaded ‘Security error’ on the boot up screen. So I used SmartFlashTool to reinstall the 4.0.4 ICS v30B ROM. The procedure is described in this thread but I actually downloaded SmartFlashTool from the link in this Handy Forum thread – yes, it’s in german but it’s got a nice screenshot and the download links work.
I decided to try updating to 4.4.4 again but this time manually. I downloaded the latest version of TWRP from here and followed the procedure here to install it.
I also needed to run unlock bootloader as described in this thread, downloading the attached OptimusBlackBootloaderUnlocked.rar file and copying to my SD card.
I used TWRP to install the new ROM – a moment of triumph when it rebooted into 4.4.4 !!.
However, TWRP gave an error when I tried to install the full version of GAPPS that I had download to my SD card as a zip file – it was too large to install. Eventually I downloaded a Paranoid Android mini GAPPS from here and installed it successfully. By now I was using adb to push files from my PC to my SD card – much more convenient than having to take the micro SD card out and insert it (in an adaptor) into the SD slot on my laptop. The adb tutorial was useful for this and has download links.
So finally I have a rejuvenated Optimus Black running fully fledged Android KitKat 4.4.4. It’s vastly faster than 4.0.4 which took ages to fully boot, spending ages scanning for media files etc.
This is what worked for me. There's probably far easier/quicker ways of doing it that others in xda-developers can recommend, but I'm glad that as noobie I've been able to rejuvenate my old phone.
A big THANK YOU to all in xda-developers who made it possible.

All sorts of pain trying to install Android (tenderloin-6.0.1)

Edit: Not sure what I've done differently that I can see but it's suddenly accepted the cm and install is ongoing. Fingers crossed I make it through to the end
Got my 32gb Touchpad webOS 3.0.5 to come back to life after sitting in a draw for 3 years without a charge. It runs great!
I'm on Win10 (64bit)
Now the issue is the universal novacom installer fails everytime. Detects win 64 but then won't install the drivers. So I found the drivers separately and put those on manually.
Now when I hit the batch file in TPToolbox 2014-05-18-v40.bin (I believe this is the most recent version) it comes up with
Setting Palm Path . . .
Checking novacom service . . .
Loading TPToolbox . . .
unable to find device
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Cannot connect to Touchpad
then the stuff about the cable (using original HP cable I used to charge it) have it in usb mode (this is the usb image it says should be on screen).
Now if there's a way to get it into "Recovery (bootie)" mode that gets the large usb symbol on screen that I'm failing to comprehend then maybe this is my issue.
Begging for assistance before I lose my mind. Also first post, great forum been here the last 4 hours but I think I'm going word blind now.:good:
Something else not working now.
When I get to the install Android bit on the toolbox it says "there are differences between boot sector and its backup.
Not automatically fixing this.
Free cluster summary wrong
few more bits like that then it aborts back to media volume mounted.
Just noticed I was on version v40 of tptoolbox so I've switched to v42.
Now it checks the tenderloin and gapps zips but says "Invalid number of recovery zips (0)
So where do I get that from? I didn't see any recovery zips at the downloads link or have I missed something glaringly obvious? I watched one of the videos through and he put on 3 zipped folders but one was an update. No sign of recovery zips so how do I deal with this?
Here goes the umpteenth attempt.
I could use some help that the guides seem to be missing. I've tried different tenderloin zips and added in the update zips but still falls flat at Invalid number of recovery zips.
Unfortunately there is lack of details in you posts to be able to be of much help.
I would personally either go with 4.4.4 KK or leap over to EVs nougat 7.1.1
Reference Roland's tutorial's, they are the best source of info out there.
There are two of his threads pinned/stickied above this thread, & one below.
They have _all_ the details to install any version you want. There is an abundance of info.
WebOS, imo is dead for these. I haven't touched it for over 4 years.
It is not on any of mine.
I'd disagree regarding installations of Marshamellow having all the info as I followed the available info and came up with those errors time and time again, specifically the "recovery zip" folders.
I gave up after losing a day to this. Installed 4.4.4 kk before I went to sleep as that absolutely had _ all _ the info and it went on first time. Ty for your input.
6.0.1 Marshmallow cant be installed directly with the TPtoolbox
Mr_Endz said:
I'd disagree regarding installations of Marshamellow having all the info as I followed the available info and came up with those errors time and time again, specifically the "recovery zip" folders.
I gave up after losing a day to this. Installed 4.4.4 kk before I went to sleep as that absolutely had _ all _ the info and it went on first time. Ty for your input.
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Hey Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow cant be installed directly with the TPtoolbox due to an incompatibility with the required recovery file. Hence the reason my TPtoolbox guide specify the install of android 4.4.4 or 5.0 but not 6.0.1. In addition to keep WebOS on the tablet you will need to follow a few extra steps or you may get errors and issues. Not to worry every link and piece of info is provided in detail below, you could even successfully install 6.0.1 with this guide but 7.1.1 is better, happy flashing.
[ROM GUIDE] How to Install Android 7.x.x Nougat builds on the HP TouchPad
Thanks for the reply Roland

Is there any OS that works ?

Hello .... I'm finding whatever OS I'm trying becoming unstable to use . So, I'm asking if there is any OS that is actually stable enough to use . I don't care whether it's an old version or what . I'm not using the tablet for games, just something I can browser the internet with . TIA
The one that has given me the fewest issues is https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712680 [ROM] [4.4.4] [CyanogenMod 11 by Jcsullins] [DM] [06/12/15]
everything works extremely well except the DSP manager when adjusting audio settings for the built in speakers where changes beyond the defaults do not have any effect on the audio.
Sadly many of the links are dead for things like gapps.
The ROM I use is cm-11-20151116-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin.zip
The gapps I use is: gapps-444-base-20160802-1-signed.zip
If needed, I can upload the gapps that I use though I am unsure if the forum has any rules surrounding it if I were to upload them to something like dropbox.
I try the others from time to time (easier for me since I really only use BSplayer and chrome in order to watch videos in a hover window while surfing the web (occasionally using my Bluetooth speakers or headphones).
Anyway, the main reason why I keep coming back to it, is the memory management. For many newer ROMs, you have issues such as the google calendar widget not working,or chrome not working properly, or when it is working, frequeny memory issues, especially if you want to upload an image to a site where it switches to the gallery app. by the time you select an image, it would fail to attach it because it will complain that the previous action could not be completed due to low memory.
With android 4.4, I do not have that issue. I don't know why it keeps happening for me since there are times when there will be over 100MB of free RAM, and chrome will still fail to do things with that error message.
Beyond that, the home screen under android 7.1.1 does not hold as many icons or widgets, even if you set the screen size to small, or adjust the dpi to 120. the home screen holds fewer icons and fewer widgets.
Overall, while it si great that newer versions of android are being supported, I feel that from a hardware standpoint then tablet has reached its limit with android 4.4
While there is also an evervolve version of android 4.4, for some reason it does not perform as well, even with more kernel features such as being able to overclock past 1.78GHz. it takes longer to boot, and some widgets do not work, along with issues with chrome.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71176374&postcount=937
Check out the Nougat Evervolv thread. I've been using it, and it's fantastic.
Thanks for your input Razor512 .... And crazyates : Has this been updated since its first release, because when I gave it a go it was very unstable
Dude905 said:
Thanks for your input Razor512 .... And crazyates : Has this been updated since its first release, because when I gave it a go it was very unstable
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Yes it has, but you need to download the nightly from their website. The XDA thread has an older version.
http://evervolv.com/devices/tenderloin
Ok, great news there crazyates. I installed evervolv from the YouTube guide, Do you know whether it still will work with those methods in the guide just as long I replace it with
ev_tenderloin-7.1.1-nightly-2017.03.03.zip and I believe you are using gapps-511-base-20161007-1-signed.zip , yes ? Thanks
YouTube >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISWZ0c48gNA
Dude905 said:
Ok, great news there crazyates. I installed evervolv from the YouTube guide, Do you know whether it still will work with those methods in the guide just as long I replace it with
ev_tenderloin-7.1.1-nightly-2017.03.03.zip and I believe you are using gapps-511-base-20161007-1-signed.zip , yes ? Thanks
YouTube >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISWZ0c48gNA
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I'm not sure about the Youtube instructions, and I followed the written instructions on the forums.
Also, IIRC, if you're using a 7.1.1 ROM, you can't use a 5.1.1 Gapps. I would recommend downloading the newest 7.1.1 Gapps.
Here are the instructions I followed:
AlwaysLucky said:
If you end up having to start from scratch in TP Toolbox v0.42, follow these steps:
- Download a TP Toolbox Compatible ROM
- Download a TP Toolbox Compatible GApps
- Download a TP Toolbox Compatible TWRP
1. In the TP Toolbox v0.42 main menu, do a 'Complete Data Reset' to start from scratch
2. Select the 'Install Android' option from the main menu
3. Copy the 3 above files to the install folder after the TP is mounted
4. When given the option to adjust partition sizes, increase the System partition to at least 1312mb
5. Finish install, and reboot to TWRP
6. While in TWRP, flash the 9/6/16 TWRP 3.0.2.0 or the smaller 9/11/16 TWRP 3.0.2.0
7. Reboot into the new TWRP that you just flashed
8. In TWRP advanced wipe menu, wipe the System partition
9. While still in TWRP, flash the ROM from the OP along with some OpenGapps
10. Worship @jcsullins and @flintman, as they are your gods.
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Here are the changes/differences I made/noticed:
crazyates said:
Step 3: While you're copying the older ROM/Gapps/TWRP into the "ttinstall" folder, I also copied everything you need for the new install into an "evervolv" folder. This way you can copy everything at once, and formatting a volume in TWRP doesn't destroy your install files.
Step 4: I have a 32GB TP, and don't use hardly any of it, so I increased the System to ~2GB, and the Cache to ~1GB. I figured going on the big side couldn't hurt.
Step 6: There's a newer version of Flintmans TWRP, 3.0.3.0(12/22/16).
Step 8: After you wipe the System, reformat the Data and Cache volumes as F2FS. Because your install files are on the External_SD instead of the Data, you can do this without recopying your install zips back again. I installed the system twice, once with Ext4 and once with F2FS. It feels snappier, and runs a lot better with F2FS.
Step 9: I used the Nightly build for the ROM, which is working great. Then the newest Gapps. Then I also flashed the SKZ overclock kernel at the same time.
Few other notes: Changing the Governor to LionHeart and Scheduler to Tripndroid made a noticeable difference for me. Also, because this doesn't have a lot of RAM, I gotta be careful with what I install, and how much I try to use it. Do NOT install Chrome from the app store. It will eat every bit of RAM available, and slow the whole thing down. I also use Greenify (with root permissions) to hibernate any app I can so it saves a lot of RAM that was as well. I'm using ~329MB (40%) for the system, with ~500MB (60%) available for apps.
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@crazyates Did you try Evervolv 7.1 nightlies? I'm curious to read your experience feedback because I'm on it and getting tired of always having a non-responsive tablet. I might go back to 4.4 as I'll go mad otherwise.
bobcote said:
@crazyates Did you try Evervolv 7.1 nightlies? I'm curious to read your experience feedback because I'm on it and getting tired of always having a non-responsive tablet. I might go back to 4.4 as I'll go mad otherwise.
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I am running the 7.1.1 nightlies. I haven't had any problems, and it's running very smooth. I'll randomly update it to the newest nightly, and haven't noticed any issues.
I do remember the time I first installed Evervolv 6.0 nightly last year. I installed it, and the touchscreen didn't work. At all. Looked into it, and it was a problem with that specific nightly build, so I went and reflashed everything with the one from the day before, and it worked great.
Anyways, all that to say it's working great, but it's still a nightly, so sometimes things go wonky.
I am still running a really old ICS build, and I noticed i can't update all my apps no more... what is the best Android version to run on the TP. Bluetooth is a must, but Camera isn't. Heard good things about 4.4.4 and 7.1.1, which one would you guys say runns smoother?
wprpalmeida said:
I am still running a really old ICS build, and I noticed i can't update all my apps no more... what is the best Android version to run on the TP. Bluetooth is a must, but Camera isn't. Heard good things about 4.4.4 and 7.1.1, which one would you guys say runns smoother?
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Can't say much for 4.4.4, but I'm using 7.1.1 and it's great!
The only argument I could see making for 4.4.4 is if it runs a bit lighter than 7.1.1. These only have 1GB of RAM, so if 4.4.4 is capable of using less RAM for the android system, that means more RAM for apps. On the flip side, 7.1.1 uses such things as zRAM and KSM for better memory management, so it may be a wash.
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Can't say much for 4.4.4, but I'm using 7.1.1 and it's great!
The only argument I could see making for 4.4.4 is if it runs a bit lighter than 7.1.1. These only have 1GB of RAM, so if 4.4.4 is capable of using less RAM for the android system, that means more RAM for apps. On the flip side, 7.1.1 uses such things as zRAM and KSM for better memory management, so it may be a wash.
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yeah, this is what I want to figure out. The developments in the Android codebase were quite extensive between these two releases, and the huge influx of budget phones in some markets (like mine for example) lead me to believe memory management would have been a key point in developing versions after 4.4.4. I'll give 7.1.1 a whirl and see how it goes.
Here are the instructions I followed:
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I tried to follow your instructions, but I get error messages like:
Error: unrecognized/unsopported zip 'FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.0.3.0-1-23-17.zip'
Error: Incompatible GAPPS/ROM versions None/7.0
I used the latest nightly (ev_tenderloin-7.1.1-nightly-2017.03.08.zip) and tried both open_gapps-arm-7.1-pico-20170312.zip and open_gapps-arm-7.1-pico-20170312, also I tried some of the TWRP-Versions you linked. I'm using TPToolbox v42 2015-01-08). So I wonder how you can figure out which versions fit together, I can remember this nagged me last time until I found a combination that worked...
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If you end up having to start from scratch in TP Toolbox v0.42, follow these steps:
- Download a TP Toolbox Compatible ROM
- Download a TP Toolbox Compatible GApps
- Download a TP Toolbox Compatible TWRP
1. In the TP Toolbox v0.42 main menu, do a 'Complete Data Reset' to start from scratch
2. Select the 'Install Android' option from the main menu
3. Copy the 3 above files to the install folder after the TP is mounted
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Flexmaen said:
I tried to follow your instructions, but I get error messages like:
Error: unrecognized/unsopported zip 'FLINTMAN-TWRP-touch-data_media-SELINUX-f2fs-3.0.3.0-1-23-17.zip'
Error: Incompatible GAPPS/ROM versions None/7.0
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Was that error message from TP Toolbox, or from TWRP? TP Toolbox won't recognize the newer TWRP images, nor will it recognize any 7.1 ROM/Gapps, so you need to use an older version to get things started. Once the older TWRP is installed, then you can use it to update to a newer version.
All in all, I had 8 ZIP files on my HP Touchpad to get a complete 7.1.1 install, but you can do it with as few as 6:
OLD ROM: CM 12.1
OLD Gapps: 5.1
OLD TWRP: 2.8.3.0
NEW ROM: Evervolv Nightly
NEW Gapps: 7.1
NEW TWRP: 3.0.3.0 F2FS
SKZ Kernel (Optional)
SuperSU (Optional)
Thank you! I installed the latest nightly, and it works fine so far.
The only thing I noticed that some apps now are blocking the device. This was also the case with the Android 4.4 Pac-Rom I used before. So it seems that some apps are using recources that aren't working well on the Touchpad at all, or that there is a general problem in several CM-versions.
For example the current version of Google Maps is so slow, you won't use it. I installend an older version (7.7.0), and this one works very fine. Also the new version of Maps lost the WiFi connection, which didn't cause any problem with the older version. So I wonder if there is some kind of incompatibility.
Another example: Fake GPS Location is much quicker than GPS-Emulator which also got stuck from time to time. Also the current Amazon App store was slooow.
Summary: Android 7.x runs fine so far, but you have to make sure that you get rid of the apps which block the device for some reason.
7.x is very slow some times.
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Thank you! I installed the latest nightly, and it works fine so far.
The only thing I noticed that some apps now are blocking the device. This was also the case with the Android 4.4 Pac-Rom I used before. So it seems that some apps are using recources that aren't working well on the Touchpad at all, or that there is a general problem in several CM-versions.
For example the current version of Google Maps is so slow, you won't use it. I installend an older version (7.7.0), and this one works very fine. Also the new version of Maps lost the WiFi connection, which didn't cause any problem with the older version. So I wonder if there is some kind of incompatibility.
Another example: Fake GPS Location is much quicker than GPS-Emulator which also got stuck from time to time. Also the current Amazon App store was slooow.
Summary: Android 7.x runs fine so far, but you have to make sure that you get rid of the apps which block the device for some reason.
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When you say "blocking" you mean very slow? Since I uptaded from 4.4 to 7.x I've noticed that lots of apps are very slow. Some freezes for seconds and returns only when I block the device and turn on again. I dont know if its only on mine or its normal because of the old hardware. Is there any version that run real smooth? Or other system?
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When you say "blocking" you mean very slow? Since I uptaded from 4.4 to 7.x I've noticed that lots of apps are very slow. Some freezes for seconds and returns only when I block the device and turn on again. I dont know if its only on mine or its normal because of the old hardware. Is there any version that run real smooth? Or other system?
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Yes I mean very slow. Often so slow that it takes a minute until you can change to another app.
The Problem also existed on my 4.4 Pac Rom, so I guess it's rather caused by new apps who might expect some feature, like multicore, etc. Or it is some fault, that already existed in older custom roms. Not sure. However, I can recommend downgrading apps in this case, older versions often work like normal.
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Yes I mean very slow. Often so slow that it takes a minute until you can change to another app.
The Problem also existed on my 4.4 Pac Rom, so I guess it's rather caused by new apps who might expect some feature, like multicore, etc. Or it is some fault, that already existed in older custom roms. Not sure. However, I can recommend downgrading apps in this case, older versions often work like normal.
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Perhaps using F2FS could help, if not currently using it?
crazyates said:
Was that error message from TP Toolbox, or from TWRP? TP Toolbox won't recognize the newer TWRP images, nor will it recognize any 7.1 ROM/Gapps, so you need to use an older version to get things started. Once the older TWRP is installed, then you can use it to update to a newer version.
All in all, I had 8 ZIP files on my HP Touchpad to get a complete 7.1.1 install, but you can do it with as few as 6:
OLD ROM: CM 12.1
OLD Gapps: 5.1
OLD TWRP: 2.8.3.0
NEW ROM: Evervolv Nightly
NEW Gapps: 7.1
NEW TWRP: 3.0.3.0 F2FS
SKZ Kernel (Optional)
SuperSU (Optional)
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I guess there is a "new" method out there that can install Nougat 7.1.1 in as little as 3 zip files!!!
check it out, it comes with instructions and a new video...
I can name that tune in 3 zips!!
DoubleStuff said:
I guess there is a "new" method out there that can install Nougat 7.1.1 in as little as 3 zip files!!!
check it out, it comes with instructions and a new video...
I can name that tune in 3 zips!!
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It doesn't work for me ... I'm having issues . First off I like to ask why he didn't use the latest Rom ? And the part with go to the PC Mounted Touchpad internal drive for the TWRP ? When I open the TWRP folder I don't see twrps file, why not ? There nothing in this folder, its empty . What I done was just placed those zip files in the TWRP folder . Afterwards once I do the final reboot to Evervolv it will just show those Evervolv lights flashing like its trying to load up but it doesn't, it just keeps continuously trying to load but it never does

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