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i broke my OPO 2 months ago , and hell does it hurts the phone was the embodiment of everything i wanted from a phone at a great price , i literally cried that day
since then i changed to my replacement phone and i blocked out everything android since then , hearing it just hurts my heart
but now i am thinking of getting the moto g 2014 since it reached malaysian shores
the things i look for in a phone
1. Good Battery life
2. After market ROMs / community
3. Size , i like my phone thick and bulky since it doesn't need a cover
4. Display
5. Performance
what i don't use in a smartphone , 3G , 4G , music listening and gaming
so will the moto G suffice my criteria? it really is cheap and i am willing to sacrifice some performance to buy it
Battery life is okay much btr than my nexus bt still will be less than ur opo..
Performance is good its a decent quad core...dont compare it wid sd800 devices
Roms have started to emerge slowly ...thanks to bunch of developers who are patiently developing...
Display is good...u wont be disappointed
I think that if you don't need really much from the battery you won't be disappointed for this price.
Hmmm cool just does this phone need a cover? i heard it's pretty thick if so i think i can save a few bucks on covers and is the browsing experience and everday usage experience smooth? i am not much of a phone user , only use it for taking down lecture notes , browsing the web and wikipedia
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Hmmm cool just does this phone need a cover? i heard it's pretty thick if so i think i can save a few bucks on covers and is the browsing experience and everday usage experience smooth? i am not much of a phone user , only use it for taking down lecture notes , browsing the web and wikipedia
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I don't know about cover, but about usage experience; if you get Lollipop for the phone, it is smooth as butter, KitKat is kind of wonky due to Memory management bug, where background apps get killed.
I only had Nexus phones so far but since google/Motorola raised the price for the N6 to a much higher level I bought the Moto G2 since the price is very nice. Would I buy it again? Not with Kitkat. The memory management really sucks and makes everyday usage a pain in the ass. There's still no lollipop update for my phone but most users that got the update already say the memory management is much better with lollipop. So I would recommend it with lollipop. With Kitkat running on it: definitely not!
Edit: I don't use a cover and I think it's not necessary.
I just bought it to replace a faulty galaxy s5 and I actually prefer it, cracking phone
Working 6 months with the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (910F), 5 Years with Samsung
I am not a regular user / buyer. I have many smartphones and when I like a brand, i am buying everything i can from the same brand.
Until 5 years ago, I was working only with HTC. I bought 8 HTC smartphones.
And then I discovered Samsung.
From then, I bought 10 Samsung smartphones, 3 Samsung Smart TVs and more.
But my passion to Samsung started to crack, and all because of my Note 4 issues.
When I received the Note 4, it was amazing - excellent battery life, everything worked perfect.
And then came updates...
After the first update, the Note 4 started to have bluetooth issues - I need to make restart twice a day in order to work with my bluetooth headsets (even with Samsung headsets).
With more updates, the battery life dropped dramatically. After the Lollipop update, the battery is dropping 3-5% per hour, without using it. Android OS and bluetooth dropped the most.
Dont tell me to make hard reset - I made it twice.
Its time to leave Samsung and work with a company that can give me what Samsung gave me until two years ago.
Samsung will need to convince me that it improved before I will return.
using bluetooth everyday with my car audio, and bluetooth headset never had any problem.
battery life never changed for me with any update. 6 hours sot generally.
maybe the Exynos is better.
The exynos is not any better, I had it for nearly a month, but returned it yesterday. Just like the op, I became a fan of samsung since I bought the S3 because of the removeable back and exchangeable battery, memory card support, and of course the tons of roms here on XDA. I was a HTC user (Desire and Desire HD). Now Samsung seems to be going that route, so it is time for me to look for alternatives, but can't find one I like at the moment. Worse comes to worse when there is no manufacturer making removable battery and sd card support, I will not buy samsung. I would rather but a NEXUS phone which will have updates from google. Heck my dauthers' 3 year old Nexus 7 toys are still running 5.1.1 without me doing anything.
I understand what you're saying. I have the Note 4 now, before that a few Nokias, an LG G3, Sony Xperia Z2, and before that, the Note 2 (best phone I had owned). I'm very disappointed in Samsung's issues. If Samsung doesn't fix this issue before I get a new phone in a few months probably, I'll ditch Samsung for good. Battery life is horrible. Camera is good in AWESOME lighting conditions, and in EVERY OTHER condition, it's SOOO grainy and terrible! Focusing isn't good. My 2013 Nokia 1520 took MUCH better pictures than this Note 4, except in good lighting. Also, 4 different roms (all official) and I still have that STUPID multitasking button delay. My Samsung tablet from 2 years ago is MUCH faster at bringing up the multitasking screen! 2GB ram and SD800 processor w/ same resolution!
I really hate to say it, but I am very disappointed in all the money I spent in this phone. I should have returned it when I had the chance ... Xperia Z3, or Z4 now... LG G4... Nexus 6. I know EVERY device has its issues, but I always need 2 things: Battery life and good camera performance. From ALL the reviews, the Note 4 had these... I really can't trust reviewers on youtube... I guess they must praise the Samsung devices or else they won't get review units before release... Meh....
I really hope Samsung can fix these issues....
/rant off.
Updates to the software ruined it for you? Then go back to what it was like when everything was perfect.
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Updates to the software ruined it for you? Then go back to what it was like when everything was perfect.
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No, even before updates ruined it, it was buggy from the get go. For example, I had the GPS tag problem right out of the box. When trying to take a picture, sometimes it wouldn't lock on to the GPS coordinates in time. Other phones will continue to try to find the GPS lock and then add it to the image a few seconds after the image is taken, but not the Note 4! That was a really big issue that was fixed with the update to Lollipop, but it brought along with it a whole slew of other issues. So no, updates didn't ruin it, updates fixed some things and broke others.
Returning back is not always smooth.
Any way - some of the updates are security updates so its a problematic not to update.
Yeah, I guess that will be my first and last samsung phone. Some months back I was unsure to get the nexus 6 or samsung note 4, because I wanted a bigger phone. Wish I had waited for the nexus 6...
Problem was not the hardware, that is really high quality and everything works like it should. Also batterie is fine, in most cases it was something else that kept the phone from sleeping, like google+.
Really awesome is the QI Case from samsung, so I can load wireless and it's protected (great quality!). Also the small window with infos
But the downside is the software and the efuse. I had many phones in my hands till now (it in our company) from mid/high end android, apple, tablets etc.
I NEVER had a software on a phone that pissed me off like samsung did. Compared to my nexus 4 I had before, the performance was abysmal. I knew TW was known to be slow, but I mean the cpu is fast as hell, 3 GB RAM etc. - that should count for something right? There is so much crap preinstalled and badly coded, it hurts.
Never wanted to root my phone, but I really needed to do it. With a custom mod and kernel it was a bit faster, also lolipop was better then 4.4.4 in subjective speed. But when I installed CM on the phone, I saw for the first time WHAT this piece of fine hardware can actually do. I also installed the same apps and no difference in speed. It was nice and fast like my nexus 4. Too bad I had to kick CM because of the bugs still around at that time. So it really is the software, nothing else.
My next phone will be a nexus again or - if good - something from LG, Sony or a Google play edition. If I could I would change it right now for a lg g4 or a nexus 6.
If samsung want's to be a real opponent to apple, they have to keep the changes to android at the lowest possible (like CM) and everything else as app. That would fasten updates by a wide margin. Also a business and private user brand with and without knox. And some kind of software selection system, that disables services or deinstalls them, if not needed like you won't need samsung link without a samsung tv.
Having lost both my trusty S2 and Nokia E6 to water damage (repaired, worked for a while, but eventually both became unusable), and absolutely hating the life on S2 and loving it on E6 (and old backup E72 especially) I'm very stoked to finally get a waterproof android with capable life given the phone that it is. Looking up roms/tweaks/root while killing time for tomorrow's mail.
IF anyone else is a data minimalist, music enthusiast, and traveler (aka possible no recharge, read about the ultra saver mode already and will likely use that one mainly) how is your experience with battery life? How about waterproofing?
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Having lost both my trusty S2 and Nokia E6 to water damage (repaired, worked for a while, but eventually both became unusable), and absolutely hating the life on S2 and loving it on E6 (and old backup E72 especially) I'm very stoked to finally get a waterproof android with capable life given the phone that it is. Looking up roms/tweaks/root while killing time for tomorrow's mail.
IF anyone else is a data minimalist, music enthusiast, and traveler (aka possible no recharge, read about the ultra saver mode already and will likely use that one mainly) how is your experience with battery life? How about waterproofing?
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I dont worry much about battery life since i have a charger every night. But mine is good. I run TMS5 right now. Great rom hope yours don't come with the 5.0 pre installed ( no root, no way to downgrade yet ). Here's my battery life with very little phone usage as I've been camping and don't worry about a phone when I'm camping.
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I dont worry much about battery life since i have a charger every night. But mine is good. I run TMS5 right now. Great rom hope yours don't come with the 5.0 pre installed ( no root, no way to downgrade yet ). Here's my battery life with very little phone usage as I've been camping and don't worry about a phone when I'm camping.
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Very cool. And isn't there a way to flash stock 4.4.2 via odin or something? Like soft-unbrick kinda deal.
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Very cool. And isn't there a way to flash stock 4.4.2 via odin or something? Like soft-unbrick kinda deal.
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Not if 5.0 is pre installed or you take the ota. Unless your getting the active. I think the s5 active can downgrade from 5.0.
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Not if 5.0 is pre installed or you take the ota. Unless your getting the active. I think the s5 active can downgrade from 5.0.
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Hope the seller I got it from didn't update. He said he hasn't in a few months, but that sounds close for comfort given 5 was released in april and phone would blast that notification.
I say as long as you don't feel like you HAVE TO root...you'll be pleased with this device even if its been upgraded to 5.0 already. I've had mine for a few months now and I upgraded to 5.0 (without knowing the full implications) after a couple days of getting it. I do admit it would be nice to able to disable the charger cover nag notification and to be able to at least have to option to run XGELS again...but thats not a game changer for me. I'm coming from a GS3. Of all the devices I've had on AT&T this one has been the most issue and quirk-free so far.
I usually run in Power Saving Mode (performance), toggle Location on only when I'm not at home, toggle bluetooth on when needed, have FB (with some notifications enabled), FB messenger, ESPN (with notifications for like 4 teams), email polls every hour on one account.
I'm a software dev (not Android tho) so I listen to and stream ALOT of music M thru F while I pound and click away. If I'm on wifi all day I can stream 6 hours of music and get 5 hours of screen time easily and consistently with %30 to %35 left after the end of the day.
One of these days I'm going to go balls out and TRY to kill the thing in one day. Haven't been able to do it yet with my version of heavy usage. YMMV.
Looks like 4.4.2, getting the pre-rooted 5, flashfire, towel, etc.
I think the battery life is pretty good once u disable some bloat. I'm on the 5.0 Ota unfortunately and my s5 can get threw a full day with a single charge.
And... I'm coming from an s3 that had a zero lemmon 7000 mah battery.. it lasted nearly a week lol
But, I'm still pleased, wish I could root but I'm getting by ok... in all I'm not a huge fan of lolipop l, mainly the new restrictions on a few things implemented. Lolipop would be great rooted tho. Like the other guy said tho, not a deal breaker
I enjoy mine and sure u will as well
Waterproof, dunno haven't tried but from what I have seen it seems to do pretty well. I'd say it's sure to survive a splash in the tub or something
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standy/idle w limited usage ~2 days. if i use it normally itll last most of the day. this is w zerolemon stock size replacement.
I can vouch for the quality of zero lemon products. I'd say it's a fair bet the zero lemmon stock size battery is better quality than the Samsung one
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So here are my smartphones history
Blackberry Storm 2
Nokia N81 (not sure if after or before the BB)
Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc S
Samsung Galaxy SIII (Exynos)
Nokia Lumia 820
Sony Xperia Z1 (Got at launch)
Nokia Lumia 1520 (Still)
Sony Xperia Z3 (Pre ordered it)
The most fun I had was with the Arc S with it's limited hardware that made me tweak the hell off it, including overclocking and heatsink mods, I could easily beat my friends S2 in Antutu at the time and it was quite an achievement.
S3 was a great phone but I kinda hated it to it's death, hardware issues plagued my phone which slowly died after freezing daily and I got absolutely no support from Samsung. Whenever I sent the phone back to warranty it would come back reset or updated, that's all.
Z1 was such a Ferrari at the time, that camera, that power and battery, still waterproof wow! Still runs great on my mom's hands.
And then we have the Z3, well over a year in my hands but it's just the same thing as the Z1, I can't honestly feel the performance difference, it's thinner and I've grew tired of the white color, it's too common nowadays and fails to look "premium". (Didn't have the choice when I got this one)
I went to my carrier store to renew my plan, what caught my eye was the new S7 Edge Black. Shiny, pretty and bigger. Yes my long fingers grew tired of Z3's 5.2' screen. But what a bummer, sold out, only the regular S7 is available for now. I did try to play around with the S7 but kinda felt just another Android phone. Of course it's a powerhouse, and I'm surprised to see it struggle with it's own TouchWiz after closing a game.
Thing is, I am ready to throw U$250 with a 12 months contract on a phone but there doesn't seem to be anything new or revolutionary.
Don't even get me started on the fruit logo, I had one for a couple of weeks and gave it away to a friend.
Do you feel the same?
When will my phone last 2 days of driving streaming music through bluetooth and GPS.
Or maybe a whole day of gaming without charging.
Replace my Nikon for taking hundreds of low light photos.
Oh so many things, most of them are really power related. Lower power chips and displays vs higher capacity batteries.
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Same here regardong power my phone would be dead in minutes even though its still at 50%
You can try to change your battery. Hope it will serve better.
The problem with smartphones is that they do not last long and get replaced by another better device. Every year manufacturers release a phone with bigger specs but we are still stuck with battery life that won't last through the day with heavy use.
I never get why OEMs release phones yearly as these phones are more or less the same except probably the CPU is a bit different than the last one. What am getting at is that if OEMs didn't release phones that frequently then we wouldn't be that easily tired with our phones.
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Not tired of my Nexus 6. Not by a long shot. Love this thing!
This ^
Love my N6! And my new 360.
I don't see the need for the latest greatest personally, I usually only upgrade when a device gets damaged, or something new really catches my attention.
Though, I'm cheap and wait til the new stuff is older and cheap.
Still in love with my 1 month old galaxy S6
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Im tired about low ram in my f60. When I bought it I was thinking 1gb would be good enough but its terrible slow and often closing apps (ie when running bass booster + YouTube in background.
Just waiting for MM updates to roll out for the Note 4 so we can get a fully smoothed out CM13 and then I'll likely be flashing it up. Aside from VZ bloat though I can't really complain about the phone stock except for the default messaging app.
Right now I am tired of my phone huawei g7. It is in bootloop and I can not solve problem. This is the reason to come to this forum to search for help. I hope I will find it. Community seems nice, so I am optimistic!
Tired of my M8 which has a random shutdown happening at around 20% charge... however I'm definitely more tired of making useless posts to reach the threshold which will allow me to post a screenshot here.
Cheers,
Steve
(2 more posts to go)
Sick of my Moto G3 but only 15 more minutes till the Samsung Unpacked event, then I'll probably know what I'll get next
I did get the S7 Edge with a cool Spigen Neo-Hybrid case, I swear I almost got the silver Iphone 6S but my carrier was only offering the 16GB variant in silver. So far it has been a great phone but as I mentioned in the first post it fails to impress me, the battery life is on bar with my old Z3 and some stuff like Samsung Pay is currently only available for those with Platinum Debt/Credit(A debt card that also works as a credit card that is ALSO a Platinum Credit Card which means you got to be a top tier customer) for a couple of banks in my Country.
So no Samsung Pay, at least for now, I do have a bank account on the biggest bank of my country and it's the second highest rated kind of account, my account manager serves me cookies with cappuccino and is available 12 hours a day... And damn, she's hot! But no Samsung Pay. Ok Let's skip this part, it's frustrating, Windows Phone Wallet has always worked fine so did Paypal.
The phone is beautiful, the most beautiful phone I ever had, it still struggles with Touchwiz at times, I wonder what kind of sorcery Samsung did behind it's Launcher and services because my Tegra Note with 1GB Ram never had any kind of lags on the launcher itself, talking about Ram, especially ram management, what on earth uses 4GB Ram without Whatsapp, Facebook, Instagram and most apps a normal person usually has? I have none of that! I use my phone for business, there's Teamviewer, VPN, Remote Desktop and Support Ticket apps that doesn't even run in background.
So, other than the odds, I flashed the unbranded rom to get the latest updates from Samsung quicker and they stopped in time, I'm stuck with the june security patch and lost the whitelist integration that would often call people funny names such as Donald Duck, I really cared about that one, I wanted to receive a call from Pluto.
I was cooking a ROM for my mom's Z1, pre rooted and debloated with Sony's latest Lolipop rom, it scored over 62k in Antutu with the CPU cores @ 2.42Ghz. That's fun and that's slowly dying as Android gets less customizable.
Well, if y'all are tired of your devices, a human here is in need of an android device :cyclops:
Really in need. :fingers-crossed:
Yeah, me too. I'm currently using Samsung S4, on JellyBean 4.3 (I don't like Kit-Kat) and it keeps restarting at random times. Maybe because I use a custom ROM on it
I'll never get tired of this phone
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Hi Guys, thinking of getting this phone but reports on screen responsiveness being laggy is putting me right off. I'm the type of person that notices everything and would be extremely annoyed if the touch response was slower than my 6P. Has the latency issue been fixed?
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Hi Guys, thinking of getting this phone but reports on screen responsiveness being laggy is putting me right off. I'm the type of person that notices everything and would be extremely annoyed if the touch response was slower than my 6P. Has the latency issue been fixed?
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I bought the 3T a couple of weeks ago coming from the nexus 6P too. Just buy it, I really can't notice any lag at all, speed and responsiveness is better than the nexus.
theguitarman94 said:
Hi Guys, thinking of getting this phone but reports on screen responsiveness being laggy is putting me right off. I'm the type of person that notices everything and would be extremely annoyed if the touch response was slower than my 6P. Has the latency issue been fixed?
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It's blazingly fast compared to the 6P.
theguitarman94 said:
Hi Guys, thinking of getting this phone but reports on screen responsiveness being laggy is putting me right off. I'm the type of person that notices everything and would be extremely annoyed if the touch response was slower than my 6P. Has the latency issue been fixed?
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I didn't notice any of these lags on my device.
No latency at all, OP3T is like the new Nexus heritage successor. Buy it without thinking twice
IMO those reports are crazy I haven't noticed touch latency problems at all
Same here. No latency at all. I highly recommend buying it.
Never had problems. Best phone I've owned so far.
Buy it.
Touch latency is real. Whether it irritates you or not, that's another matter.
It's mostly noticeable while scrolling.
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Touch latency is real. Whether it irritates you or not, that's another matter.
It's mostly noticeable while scrolling.
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Saying this means nothing. It's very smooth on my end.
Lags also depend on you ROM, kernel, (crappy?) apps and so on...
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Saying this means nothing. It's very smooth on my end.
Lags also depend on you ROM, kernel, (crappy?) apps and so on...
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While true, one of the most important dependencies is the touchscreen firmware, which unfortunately is a binary blob.
BTW other people reported latency when typing fast on the virtual keyboard, and when playing games. I use the 'swipe' feature on keyboards and don't play games so couldn't comment on that.
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I bought the 3T a couple of weeks ago coming from the nexus 6P too. Just buy it, I really can't notice any lag at all, speed and responsiveness is better than the nexus.
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I have this phone for a couple of days now, and if you flash it with a new rom, kernel, it will be very smooth .
Hey guys I had a opo and it had some connectivity issues that long story short I couldn't fix and I bought a lg g3 just for temporary. Have been interested in this since it came out but not sure if I should get on 3 on swappa or buy new 3t. Is the 3t worth the extra cash? Any complaints? Or even developing support more for one or the other?
I also thinking of ordering 3t,waiting for 128gb version-but I think I'm gonna have to be happy with ordering 64gb(cuz 128 is not in sale from few weeks back till now).Are you guys happy with it?Does it have some big problems like LG G4 or Nexus 6p with motherboard? Community on xda is big as I can see,and that's very important to me when I'm buying a phone.How long is aprox shipping time to Europe(Croatia)?
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3t is beautiful device,I like it
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I'm thinking of ordering one for myself also, first i need to sell one of my 6p's. But it's good to see that previous 6p users love this device.
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I ended up buying a one plus 3t in the end. I can definitely tell the difference in latency but the longer I have the phone, the more I'm adjusting to it. It was only a big deal as I was coming from a 6P. Hopefully the latency can be improved in a future update. The phone is however blazing fast.
Multitasking is fantastic due to 6GB ram, the battery life is far far better than the 6P. The 810 really crippled the battery on the 6P. I'm pretty happy with the one plus. Only real thing I miss now is being on the latest version of Android.
I feel like Google just abandoned the Nexus line. The 6P still doesn't have 7.1.2 beta even though the 5x got it days ago. Really poor from Google
The touch response is great. Just that OnePlus needs to work on adjusting the scroll latency via software. This is my favorite Android device. Checks all the boxes for me other then it being damn slippery lol. I hate cases and skins so yeah lol
I don't get it. Are you guys talking about the little miniscule lag behind scrolling sometimes?! You haven't had a Samsung phone have you.....
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Performance under low battery
Hi,
I currently have a nexus 6 which gets very slow when the battery is below 40%. Does oneplus 3T have similar problems? My current nexus 6 runs on stock android and i am unable to open my camera or other apps. it gets damn slow.
coming from nexus 6p too. op3t is way faster, better battery life, just better.