To Root or Not To Root.. (that is the question) - T-Mobile Note 7 Questions & Answers

So I've been going back and forth with myself about about whether or not to update to the (Green Battery) or not. I mean I'm aware that if i do I will lose the capability to root, but then again I also wonder what exactly is there to root for? This is such a great device out the gate, and really there has been great development for supporting app/mod that do not require root nowadays. I use Samsung Wallet very often and have found It very "every day, real life" useful. And given I workout daily, SHealth is of great Usage to me too. And i'd like to have the most up to date and current versions when possible..
Although on the flip slide, I don't like the fact that I cant root my phone in the future if I choose to. But i also feel like it would run so much smoother if i just did the "Green Battery update".. smh... #firstworldproblems #diaryofaspoiledrootjunkiebutalsosatisfiedcustomer lol
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This is the exact dilemma I was in and hence gave in and got an Exysos S7 edge
I say root it while you can !

I wouldn't have kept it without root. Every time i turn around, I need root. Today it was for a Kodi mod. Yesterday I needed access to a Dolphin db. The day before I needed Titanium Backup. OTOH, my wife is happy without root. We really can't judge for you how to balance things. Get two?

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Why do you have to Root android phone's to do anything good to them??????

Why do you have to Root android phone's to do anything good to them??????, is what my iPhone friend just told me. I need a really good comeback. Any suggestions?
come on guys....
Call him a dumbfuck. Alternatively, ask him what exactly what these "good things" are that you need to root to access. Multi-tasking? Yeah, been able to do that since forever. Customization? Same. Install a home replacement. Wallpapers? Ditto. The latest iPhone OS only brought to the table features Android has been able to do out of the box from the beginning. Flash? Get your Froyo on via official OTA, no need to root.
Oh, and ask him what he can do with an unjailbroken iPhone. Out of the box, it's a crippled piece of ****.
You can do a lot of "good" things to your phone without rooting.
With froyo comes the LED flashlight and tethering.
Ask him if he can tether or install 3rd party apps (w/o iTunes) without jailbreaking his iPhone and see what he says
lol thanks guys...keep it coming!!!
I have to answer this question at least once or twice a week when asked by many of my co-workers who gave up their crackberries for android. I give them the basics: Overclocking, undervolting, unrestricted tethering etc....But it's best put this way: Imagine having a car that can do 150 MPH but its restricted to 60 MPH. You may not have to go over 60 MPH but you should be able to if needed right? I hacked every smartphone I have owned because I refuse to get less than what my money is worth. If your heart pumps kool-aid or you like being pimped by manufacturers/service providers, then don't jailbreak/root.
JDMSirEK4 said:
Why do you have to Root android phone's to do anything good to them??????, is what my iPhone friend just told me. I need a really good comeback. Any suggestions?
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Tell him it's actually the opposite. Personally I could NOT use an iPhone if it wasn't Jailbroken. This is coming from someone who used an iPhone 3GS for 10 months exclusively. Personally iPhone jailbroken is pretty good. It's pretty useless without jailbreaking, turning on/off wifi/gps/bt, is slow, multitasking, folders/categories/contact picture hack, better sms app, etc..etc..
Ask him to load up some widgets, live wallpapers, google Nav. etc etc etc.
... there's a reason they call it "JAILBREAKING" and "ROOTING".
Jailbreaking = iPhone is useless without it, a lonely condemned soul waiting to be released. And even after you jailbreak it, it's horny, hungry and dumb as hell.
Rooted = getting access to additional features that require admin level access. Personally, I had only 2 reasons to root at all - wifi hotspot and flashlight. BOTH are now available for NON-rooted N1s. So.. Unless you got specific reasons to root.. your phone is already a powerhouse that can do anything.
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Rooted = getting access to additional features that require admin level access. Personally, I had only 2 reasons to root at all - wifi hotspot and flashlight. BOTH are now available for NON-rooted N1s. So.. Unless you got specific reasons to root.. your phone is already a powerhouse that can do anything.
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Honestly, the flashlight was the only real reason I ended up rooting. I've since installed other root-only apps, but they do have non-root equivalents.
duh to load custom roms
Be able to uninstall Twitter is all the reason I need to root. Seriously Google, stop doing that, if I want it I'll go find it. Don't start messing your phones up like AT&T does.

Worth rooting?

I just upgraded to the droid 4 a couple of days ago. I am not new to rooting by any means, so ive been considering rooting this beast. My concern is not having a safe point to restore to. Is it worth it at this point to take the minimal risk? Has anyones use of the droid 4 become drastically improved after rooting? I appreciate any advice anyone has. Thank you
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Go for it!
I have notice no performance increase or decrease. My phone behaves they same before and after I rooted. The rooting method is super easy also. I was impressed. If you follow directions exactly then the risk of bricking is VERY minimal. If your like me and you like having full control over your phone, then I would definitely root. The risk of screwing up your phone is greater after you root your device because then you start installing apps using super user permissions. As long as you stick with well know root apps like Root Explorer, Titanium Backup, Wireless Tether (the google project one), Nebtop, etc, you will be OK. Avoid apps with a very low amount of user reviews on the Play Store. If you do this then you will be fine.
My opinion it is definitely worth it as I've always been rooted and had a hard time even trying to make it through one day on stock lol. If you are familiar with rooting on Moto devices and familiar with Safestrap, you shouldn't worry too much.. But that being said, I there are still no fastboot files and there will still always be some risk.
I'm currently set up stock on my non-safe system(leaving it as is if I need to go back or for an ota) with gummy on my safe side. I've had good luck with data so far on gummy and with aokp and it's hard to go back once you've run ics long enough lol.
Just my opinion. If you haven't used Safestrap before just make sure to read up first to eliminate chance of bringing.
Good luck and have Fun!
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Keep in mind, you don't have to install a new ROM or safestrap if you just want to root. The risk to rooting is pretty minimal, and it allows you a lot more control over the phone.
The reason I rooted was because:
1) Titanium Backup requires root
2) Widgetlocker works better with root (disable ugly stock lockscreen)
3) SetCPU requires root to work
I have SetCPU setup not to overclock, but to underclock when screen is off/charging. Worth it for root for me. Plus, I wanted to root now, just in case an OTA comes down that makes it difficult to root later on (like the OG Droid).
You all sound pretty convincing. Podspi, or anyone for that matter, how much longer does your battery last while underclocking it just when charging and the screens off? I think i will be rooting this phone in a matter of hours
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GoogleisGod said:
You all sound pretty convincing. Podspi, or anyone for that matter, how much longer does your battery last while underclocking it just when charging and the screens off? I think i will be rooting this phone in a matter of hours
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Probably depends on your use... It's hard to say, since I rooted it and underclocked it about an hour after I got it, but Battery Monitor Widget claims I could get 2 days out of idle (screen off).
SetCPU has a profile mode that lets you set the speed under a bunch of different conditions. I limit mine to 600mhz when less than 50% battery is remaining, for example. So far, with 4G on, I haven't even come close to running out in a day. So I'm pretty happy with the results, though I am not a heavy user.
Use the Droid 4 Utility, it makes rooting more or less foolproof. It is just a batch file, if you are interested in exactly what it is doing.
I just rooted my phone. That was incredibly simple, and I can do it to the other 4 droid 4s in my family in a matter of minutes. Which wireless tether app is the Google Project one? I've used barnacle in the past and one other I no longer see available on the market. Also anyone have a lockscreen that can pause and skip music? One of the simplest things I miss
For the purposes of SetCPU, at what temperatures should I be concerned about the battery and CPU? I read somewhere these batterys can take up to 158 degrees before any difference, but I set it at 140 degrees. What is safe for the phone?
I have gotten my phone very hot to the touch over 4G on a skype Video call so I imagine it could go further without problems.
The tether would be this one, http://code.google.com/p/android-wi...ail?name=wifi_tether_v3_1-beta11.apk&can=2&q=
The built in tethering app flaked out on me the other day, but this one seems to work perfectly, maybe a little better than the stock one.
Just installed it. Thank you everyone
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podspi said:
Probably depends on your use... It's hard to say, since I rooted it and underclocked it about an hour after I got it, but Battery Monitor Widget claims I could get 2 days out of idle (screen off).
SetCPU has a profile mode that lets you set the speed under a bunch of different conditions. I limit mine to 600mhz when less than 50% battery is remaining, for example. So far, with 4G on, I haven't even come close to running out in a day. So I'm pretty happy with the results, though I am not a heavy user.
Use the Droid 4 Utility, it makes rooting more or less foolproof. It is just a batch file, if you are interested in exactly what it is doing.
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Droid 4 util is amazing. I'm a PC tech, and real familiar with windows and such, but not great with hardware, and my only previous android device was a god awful archos tablet.
D4U unlocked my phone in pretty much a single click, and bam, free tether, etc.

Who else doesn't care about root?

Am I the only one who doesn't seem to care about root? The reason I've rooted and flashed previous devices was for better gaming & speed optimization, battery life and the experience of change & customization; of course.
However, as odd as it seems to say I have went weeks now not even thinking of root or custom roms on this device.
TouchWiz is faster than ever, gaming is faster than ever (the CPU and GPU speak for themselves..), and everything's polished. The battery is superb! I dont even charge my S5 somedays with moderate gaming.. All I did was a few standard TW tweaks.. disabled animations in DM and threw on Nova launcher.
Next time around I will go with an unlocked phone (probably the next flagship Google phone), but for now I really enjoy the stock and untampered version of this phone.
Anyone else on the same page?
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U might be the only one. Root is more than that. It opens up a door for applications like Titanium Backup. Yes, Touchwiz is awesome nowadays but pure AOSP can never be beat
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cerobles1 said:
U might be the only one. Root is more than that. It opens up a door for applications like Titanium Backup. Yes, Touchwiz is awesome nowadays but pure AOSP can never be beat
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Titanium backup is useless for me, all I ever backup is photos and that's easily done with my Google account. I have no reasons to greenify on this phone, no reason to debloat (doesn't slow my phone down), all I miss is xposed and rom toolbox, but even those aren't much to me anymore. I have my nexus 7 (2013) for my AOSP needs I actually enjoy TW on my phone.. weird, I know.
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I care very much about it since Samsung decided to disable so many things. The ability for 3rd party file managers to fly from internal to external memory (or from a cloud to external, which is what I really want), lock screen widgets, the lack of available memory--they list goes on the more I use this phone.
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I care very much about it since Samsung decided to disable so many things. The ability for 3rd party file managers to fly from internal to external memory (or from a cloud to external, which is what I really want), lock screen widgets, the lack of available memory--they list goes on the more I use this phone.
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Actually those are Google limitations brought on by KitKat, not Samsung limitations. KitKat has blocked the 3rd party write ability to SD cards.
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U might be the only one. Root is more than that. It opens up a door for applications like Titanium Backup. Yes, Touchwiz is awesome nowadays but pure AOSP can never be beat
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Couldnt disagree more about AOSP. Dont want it, dont need it otherwise i would have gone with a nexus.
Br4nd3n said:
Am I the only one who doesn't seem to care about root? The reason I've rooted and flashed previous devices was for better gaming & speed optimization, battery life and the experience of change & customization; of course.
However, as odd as it seems to say I have went weeks now not even thinking of root or custom roms on this device.
TouchWiz is faster than ever, gaming is faster than ever (the CPU and GPU speak for themselves..), and everything's polished. The battery is superb! I dont even charge my S5 somedays with moderate gaming.. All I did was a few standard TW tweaks.. disabled animations in DM and threw on Nova launcher.
Next time around I will go with an unlocked phone (probably the next flagship Google phone), but for now I really enjoy the stock and untampered version of this phone.
Anyone else on the same page?
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Partially. My S3 is my work phone, and if Samsung ever gets around to releasing the 32GB version instead of futzing around with colors, I'll likely pull the trigger on the S5. My employer will be implementing AirWatch soon and cutting off sync to rooted phones, so the lack of root will mean less to me.
I will hate to give up, though Titanium Backup - both for its ability to backup and freeze apps; Greenify - to try tame misbehaved apps; my S3 gets the world's worst battery life, Bettery Batter Stats - to try to diagnose said awful battery life, and Directory Bind - to work around some of the limits of the 16GB space on my G3.
I'd like to be able to delete instead of freeze worthless Samsung apps when Samsung shuts their services down and AT&T apps that I will never, ever, ever use.
Give me a way to backup my phone, safely uninstall non-core functionality, and make my battery suck less, and I can live without root.
I also don't care about root, for myself, on my primary device.
I'd rather the added stability and security from knowing the various apps, and myself, are locked out of ranges of potentially harmful behavior. For me, for my phone, it's no. 1 a tool that I needs to be reliable.
Way far and gone in 3rd place would be something that needs root.
Like other's stated, my data/content is backed up separately, and google play has my back on the apps, so I don't need any other backup solution.
Root would be nice, but the S5 seems to have hit the mark as far as I'm concerned. It is not perfect, but I am very satisfied. Even if a root method is found, I'm not so sure I would be doing it.
As far as my need to flash something...well...that's what my N7 is for. lol
As much as I want root, I am just as happy without it. I've had zero problems with battery life or lag.
Obviously I care a lot, today I sold the S5 and just got an M8, having an Andorid without root is the same as having an iPhone or WindowsPhone. I like to be able to do whatever I want with my device.
Android w/o root is still a ton better than iOS.
For me, the only thing I want root for on this device is titanium backup, and the ability to enable car mode which AT&T very stupidly disabled.
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I have a hard time saying this but I have to agree with the op. My excuse, powering savings mode. I can't live without it now, having gray scale and under clocking right at the touch of a button is sweet. I get three to four days per charge with heavy use. Plus I love the camera app, it's almost worth it for just that alone.
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After using Touchwiz for a month or so.. i would definitely like to flash AOSP or something new. it's like the phone is starting to slow down or get buggy here and there.
Also Xposed has some great tweaks
Root isn't a deal breaker for me but it's always great to have options
I would miss xposed, but I could have managed with no root if Google wouldn't have F'd up the the external SD access. I really liked the phone, but couldn't justify dropping that kind of money on a locked down phone. I still pop in here every couple of days in hopes that an exploit has been found, but no such luck. I'm seriously considering picking up an international model pretty soon.
Glad to see an equal side oppositional in this thread, nice to see some agree with me. If I remember.. I did see something somewhere about a possible future update allowing more SD card writing.
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i only want root so i can use the download booster feature that samsung advertises. but hopefully we will get that in a ota
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Actually those are Google limitations brought on by KitKat, not Samsung limitations. KitKat has blocked the 3rd party write ability to SD cards.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but the ES dev said the inability to copy to external memory is Samsung's doing. Also, I had stock, barebones kitkat on my S3 and it could do said function.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but the ES dev said the inability to copy to external memory is Samsung's doing. Also, I had stock, barebones kitkat on my S3 and it could do said function.
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HTC M8 stock KitKat most 3rd party apps cannot write to sd card...Dropbox still can't. It required root and a fix to make some work. If you google KitKat and sd card trouble you will see it is KitKat, not Samsung.

[need advice] after ~10 yrs kitkat and xposed, what are my options on a samsung note8

Hi all,
I have been a Samsung Note User from day one (and Note1). To keep apps in check, I always used xposed plus xprivacy or LBE. Today, I am totally aware my Note4 is totally outdated but I really got used to being able to deny data and (maybe more importantly) network access to any app at will.
I have been keeping to use my old phone because whenever I looked for viable app-fencing solutions on the current android versions, everything seemed very volatile and unstable. Recently my company gave me a Note8 and although I am not a big friend of the modern "glass brick" design trend at all, it is hard to ignore the advances in terms of hardware power and that my trusty old Note begins to be unable to execute certain new apps.
I presume most of you are using current Android versions. So I'd like to ask you which solutions are you using to prevent unwanted data and privacy drain on your devices. I my dreams I would continue to be able to willingly decide whether any app may be allowed to use either Wifi or mobile networks (bonus prize: depending on if the app is in foreground or not), be able to suppress advertising extensions in apps and deny access to privacy-related data like position, unique IDs and contact database.
Which solutions would I use to achieve as many of these goals as possible on Android 7 or even 8? Maybe even some without rooting?
Thank you very much for you suggestions and input..
Much of that is backed right into nougat and Oreo. Many permissions can be denied (depending on the app developers). Root on the newer samsungs seems to be problematic.
Bitmixer said:
Hi all,
I have been a Samsung Note User from day one (and Note1). To keep apps in check, I always used xposed plus xprivacy or LBE. Today, I am totally aware my Note4 is totally outdated but I really got used to being able to deny data and (maybe more importantly) network access to any app at will.
I have been keeping to use my old phone because whenever I looked for viable app-fencing solutions on the current android versions, everything seemed very volatile and unstable. Recently my company gave me a Note8 and although I am not a big friend of the modern "glass brick" design trend at all, it is hard to ignore the advances in terms of hardware power and that my trusty old Note begins to be unable to execute certain new apps.
I presume most of you are using current Android versions. So I'd like to ask you which solutions are you using to prevent unwanted data and privacy drain on your devices. I my dreams I would continue to be able to willingly decide whether any app may be allowed to use either Wifi or mobile networks (bonus prize: depending on if the app is in foreground or not), be able to suppress advertising extensions in apps and deny access to privacy-related data like position, unique IDs and contact database.
Which solutions would I use to achieve as many of these goals as possible on Android 7 or even 8? Maybe even some without rooting?
Thank you very much for you suggestions and input..
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Hey! We are together in this! I am exactly the same on my Motorola x play! Been using xprivacy and xposed too for ages on all apps, plus a firewall too.
Give a look at f-droid app store and xposed itself, on the download tab. There is the new xprivacy LUA for android 6/7, and it's the successor of the old version. Haven't tested out yet, but seems to be more or less the same, judging by what I read.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacylua6-0-android-privacy-manager-t3730663
Also... Give a look at a good firewall, to block rogue internet access for all the nasty apps out there.
Anything just give me a shout. It's good to know I am not alone! [emoji108][emoji56]
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Much of that is backed right into nougat and Oreo. Many permissions can be denied (depending on the app developers). Root on the newer samsungs seems to be problematic.
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Thanks for your reply, madbat.
I have seen the new permission management in oreo. Please understand that to me it is important that not an app developer decides what I can deny but I want to be able to make that decision myself. Moreover, as far as my knowledge goes, android does not allow to deny network access to apps when I deem they shouldn't have any business on my uplink. Most importantly this applies for any Amazon apps and most apps from their store. All of them are trying to phone home every few minutes(!).
Ev0luti0n_ said:
Hey! We are together in this! I am exactly the same on my Motorola x play! Been using xprivacy and xposed too for ages on all apps, plus a firewall too.
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I had hoped I am not alone
Ev0luti0n_ said:
(...) There is the new xprivacy LUA for android 6/7, and it's the successor of the old version. Haven't tested out yet, but seems to be more or less the same, judging by what I read.
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I have read about that one and to me it appears like it is not quite there. Last time I looked, the developer was about to REMOVE protection of several sensitive data points like IMEI. Also, like madcat mentioned, rooting the latest Samsung devices can be problematic and I might get some problems bricking a $1000 company device
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Also... Give a look at a good firewall, to block rogue internet access for all the nasty apps out there.
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Any recommendations here?
kind regards
Oh... I use afwall, which requires root. I did read here on XDA, that there is a good no root firewall here, but I can't remember the name. ..
Also you won't be able to root the device? I am not sure you are going to have much luck... [emoji848]
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Ev0luti0n_ said:
Also you won't be able to root the device? I am not sure you are going to have much luck... [emoji848]
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I guess I am able to root it, just a little reluctant yet Like, waiting for someone to finally discover a rooting method that does not invalidate knox for the note8
Hey guys, I have a question. What firewall were you talking about for KitKat?

is it worth rooting?

I have the S10 for a month now and really happy with performance and battery. Although I've been a power user of android for too long I didn't feel the need to root my s10 yet, so is it still worth the hassle of rooting for you?
Have a look here and have wonderful day https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/root-s10-wait-t3926831
edit: no problem :good: <--
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Have a look here and have wonderful day https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/root-s10-wait-t3926831
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This is the first time I don't root a phone since 2010 with android, and to be honest I don't see the benefits of rooting anymore especially that One UI is great out the box.
As they mentioned in the thread there are some caveats but I can live without the couple of things gained from root.
Thanks for sharing.
I used ADB to be able to debloat entirely what I want. So don't need to root for me.
I rooted mine because I needed to enable the call recorder, other than that you get already have pretty much everything you need without root access.
Adaway dns to block ads, ADB to remove unwanted apps.
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I used ADB to be able to debloat entirely what I want. So don't need to root for me.
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I used package disabler for that and it works very well for me.
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I rooted mine because I needed to enable the call recorder, other than that you get already have pretty much everything you need without root access.
Adaway dns to block ads, ADB to remove unwanted apps.
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Well the only thing that irritates me having no root is that I have to deal with vpn ad blockers, other than that everything works just fine.
zaidshb said:
I used package disabler for that and it works very well for me.
Well the only thing that irritates me having no root is that I have to deal with vpn ad blockers, other than that everything works just fine.
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Use dns instead, you don't lose any bandwidth
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Use dns instead, you don't lose any bandwidth
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I tried DNS66 but didn't work for me. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Update: I found a way to use ad guard dns as a private vpn and it works, thanks.
hell yes .. better sound with viperfx .. debloating and changing cpu settings for better battery (since battery life on s10 is shi*) .. greenify, lspeed, naptime and all of that ..
rooting is always worth it
I don't think you should root now...
I had four main reasons when I used to root my phones back then. Titanium BackUp, Viper4Android, Adaway and the ability to apply dark themes.
-No need to uninstall apps with Titanium backup anymore, I can just disable them.
-Don't need Viper4Android. I bought the Creative Super X-Fi AMP and the sound of my mobile is way better than V4A.
-Adaway was great, but Block this! is good enough and it doesn't require rooting.
-Black and dark themes are everywhere these days, Android Q will support it natively.
I used to love Cyanogenmod and other roms, but Flagships these days have so many exclusive features, that a custom rom cannot support properly, like modern camera systems. S10 is my second unrooted phone and I do not intend to root it.
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I had four main reasons when I used to root my phones back then. Titanium BackUp, Viper4Android, Adaway and the ability to apply dark themes.
-No need to uninstall apps with Titanium backup anymore, I can just disable them.
-Don't need Viper4Android. I bought the Creative Super X-Fi AMP and the sound of my mobile is way better than V4A.
-Adaway was great, but Block this! is good enough and it doesn't require rooting.
-Black and dark themes are everywhere these days, Android Q will support it natively.
I used to love Cyanogenmod and other roms, but Flagships these days have so many exclusive features, that a custom rom cannot support properly, like modern camera systems. S10 is my second unrooted phone and I do not intend to root it.
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You've covered almost all the reasons why I used to root phones. It just feels weird using a phone without root for me lol but I'm getting used to it pretty well.
If you want to believe that a bunch of mostly useless apps while rooted will enrich your life and make you the cool guy, then by all means root. If you want a phone that will most likely be free of problems and will be worth something if you ever want to trade up or sell then don't root.
It's mainly that by rooting your device you also introduce all kinds of potential security risks to your device. It's also a big hassle, requires you to manually update your phone when there's an update available (vs just installing an OTA update which is so much easier). The main reason why I used to root my phone was for ad blocking, but now there are many non-root ways of doing so, such as Blokada.
My past 2 phones I haven't rooted and I don't miss it at all. Life is much simpler now. I guess also the newness of smartphones has worn off now. I now just want a phone that works reliably without too much hassle.
Tel864 said:
If you want to believe that a bunch of mostly useless apps while rooted will enrich your life and make you the cool guy, then by all means root. If you want a phone that will most likely be free of problems and will be worth something if you ever want to trade up or sell then don't root.
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When you put it this way it makes sense not to root lol
Sakete said:
It's mainly that by rooting your device you also introduce all kinds of potential security risks to your device. It's also a big hassle, requires you to manually update your phone when there's an update available (vs just installing an OTA update which is so much easier). The main reason why I used to root my phone was for ad blocking, but now there are many non-root ways of doing so, such as Blokada.
My past 2 phones I haven't rooted and I don't miss it at all. Life is much simpler now. I guess also the newness of smartphones has worn off now. I now just want a phone that works reliably without too much hassle.
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I do agree with you.
I think it's how you use the phone and what you like! I like viper, the record function while calling...
I have my s8 rooted for a year now and it's still better then my s10 cuz of the lack of features....for me that is plus...if you know for a fact your phone is solid...do it!! I'm gonna?
Nope, not worth it, but the kiddies say differently.
Melissakis said:
I had four main reasons when I used to root my phones back then. Titanium BackUp, Viper4Android, Adaway and the ability to apply dark themes.
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You covered exactly my usage points that justified rooting in the past.
I will also add that Android native backup, and the job samsung is doing for monthly security updates in flagships helped a lot in my decision to not root.
For adblocking I'm satisfied with blokada and for now and I only see the chance to change my mind if I'm still using this phone when samsung drop the monthly updates for it, so then i will probably move to lineage if support is good enough and a descent gcam port is working.

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