Locked Bootloader - T-Mobile Note 7 Questions & Answers

I think one of the best things that we all love about android is ability to change your phone and add what you want via root. My question is this, if the future of android is to lock all bootloaders, why should we stay with android and not get an I phone? If I can't get viper4android I'm not sure if I'm gonna stay with android. What are your thoughts?

You've hit the nail on the head.
Android / Google is turning into Apple with its proprietary madness.
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You would think they'd unlock the boot loader considering all the bad press they're getting due to exploding phones
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MorePAIN said:
You would think they'd unlock the boot loader considering all the bad press they're getting due to exploding phones
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Why?
The modding community is a very small part of the manufacturers' customer base. There's more money to be made with the pay services, which rooting can't guarantee the security of. Also, the manufacturers are looking towards corporate customers, who take a dim view of the security ramifications of rooted phones on their systems.
My last phone that had an unlocked bootloader was the Note 4. It seemed that I lost more functionality than I gained.

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Why?
The modding community is a very small part of the manufacturers' customer base. There's more money to be made with the pay services, which rooting can't guarantee the security of. Also, the manufacturers are looking towards corporate customers, who take a dim view of the security ramifications of rooted phones on their systems.
My last phone that had an unlocked bootloader was the Note 4. It seemed that I lost more functionality than I gained.
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You should take into account a lot of the added features of android have come from the modding community and merged/adopted into official carrier builds.

I totally agree with the point of root for V4A. I can't live without that mod. especially the A.r.i.s.e. version. Have you tried that?
What new phones coming out have the best chances of root?

By this point Samsung should invest in their speakers and give us a reason to not need root. Instead they constantly give us crappy speakers.

Chr0nicDreamz said:
You should take into account a lot of the added features of android have come from the modding community and merged/adopted into official carrier builds.
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I won't begin to deny that the amateur developer community have done great things for our phones. All of my Android phones have been rooted, going back to the Droid Incredible. I'm simply stating that from a business standpoint, there's little profit to catering to such a small part of their customer base.

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I won't begin to deny that the amateur developer community have done great things for our phones. All of my Android phones have been rooted, going back to the Droid Incredible. I'm simply stating that from a business standpoint, there's little profit to catering to such a small part of their customer base.
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You would be correct. That's probably why they stopped with developer edition devices as well
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Chr0nicDreamz said:
You would be correct. That's probably why they stopped with developer edition devices as well
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You're probably right. My only two issues are boring sounds with no DAC, and no adaway.

chronos7 said:
You're probably right. My only two issues are boring sounds with no DAC, and no adaway.
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I turned in my phone, R.I.P. Note 7, you were a goddess amongst peons.Your core was too unstable.

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Lollipop Update Rumored November/ December

Check out this article on SamMobile!
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/09/18/samsung-galaxy-s5-and-galaxy-note-4-might-get-android-l-in-novemberdecember/
This is with out doubt wishful thinking for us AT&T customers.
Knowing AT&T though I would say February 2015...
Actually, Lollipop is proving harder to crack for root access than our phones very own bootloader. I hate to say this but rooted users may be behind stock for the first time ever in just a few short months.
As long as I still have root, I'll be OK staying on KitKat. I'm not going to assume Lollipop will be rooted until it happens. They're making these phones and operating systems harder and harder to root, until one day there will only be development phones which will have root.
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As long as I still have root, I'll be OK staying on KitKat. I'm not going to assume Lollipop will be rooted until it happens. They're making these phones and operating systems harder and harder to root, until one day there will only be development phones which will have root.
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If this was the mindset of of programmers and hackers there would never be a rooted phone. It doesn't matter how hard android tries to stop it there will always be a way found to get around it plain and simple. It's why the security industry is making billions every year. There is not a single device on the planet that is fully capable of being 100% secure. And there never will be a device made like this as long as humans continue to make the devices. Artificial Intelligence may be able to do it one day.
Exclusive video: final Lollipop firmware on the S5!
Looks nice to me! I hope Samsung can update the status bar icons a bit like stock Google. . I hate that out of place Wi-Fi icon.. The Nexus style looks awesome.
well it is already December now.. any new rumors on when we may get Lollipop?
jae2014 said:
well it is already December now.. any new rumors on when we may get Lollipop?
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The rumor was for the international version...don't expect anything from AT&T anytime soon.
Poland just got Lollipop on the SM900F! COME ON AT&T!!
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/12/04/samsung-galaxy-s5-sm-g900f-receives-android-5-0-lollipop-update/
Just made a new post requesting a brave dev to port this polish version to klteatt
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/39833/G900FXXU1BNL2_G900FXEO1BNL1_XEO.zip/
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If this was the mindset of of programmers and hackers there would never be a rooted phone. It doesn't matter how hard android tries to stop it there will always be a way found to get around it plain and simple. It's why the security industry is making billions every year. There is not a single device on the planet that is fully capable of being 100% secure. And there never will be a device made like this as long as humans continue to make the devices. Artificial Intelligence may be able to do it one day.
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I don't disagree with you, but users are starting to steer clear of devices that are difficult to root. Just look at the at&t note 4. Not even a hint of root and very little developer interest. People would rather just get the t-mobile version. Samsung and at&t seem to be a bad combination for people who want to root and ROM moving forward. Unless we get a developer edition like Verizon.
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Just made a new post requesting a brave dev to port this polish version to klteatt
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/39833/G900FXXU1BNL2_G900FXEO1BNL1_XEO.zip/
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No porting is going to happen for att we need boot.img and bootloader I have already tried this and no way to boot without them
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I'm honestly looking forward to getting rid of my S5. It's a nice phone, but I love the pure google feel like my Nexus 7 has. I'll be upgrading to a Nexus 6 soon. The touchwiz is just ugly, and I certainly don't want a bloated unrootable version of lollipop. The development for this phone is dead, no updates for months now. I'm a flashaholic so I'm absolutely bored out of my mind. If it wasn't for the messed up proximity sensor on the S4 I have I'd probably be using that and flashing like crazy.
When I spoke to an AT&T rep yesterday, they were saying that AT&T has Lollipop and they are modifying it for our devices, with a tentative release date of Feb 2015...
We'll see how much that holds water.
I would be shocked if Lollipop could push anything that'd make me risk giving up just a rooted KK.
rachelm920 said:
I'm honestly looking forward to getting rid of my S5. It's a nice phone, but I love the pure google feel like my Nexus 7 has. I'll be upgrading to a Nexus 6 soon. The touchwiz is just ugly, and I certainly don't want a bloated unrootable version of lollipop. The development for this phone is dead, no updates for months now. I'm a flashaholic so I'm absolutely bored out of my mind. If it wasn't for the messed up proximity sensor on the S4 I have I'd probably be using that and flashing like crazy.
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I completely agree with your statement. Honestly, I really am considering selling my S5 and getting something else.
I am honestly thinking about jumping ship from at&t all together and going to t-mobile as they don't have bootloaders locked down on their devices yet, plus I think their data plans and what not are better than at&t's current plans. The only issue I have with t-mobile is they don't have quite the selection of Android devices available that at&t does.
malickie said:
I am honestly thinking about jumping ship from at&t all together and going to t-mobile as they don't have bootloaders locked down on their devices yet, plus I think their data plans and what not are better than at&t's current plans. The only issue I have with t-mobile is they don't have quite the selection of Android devices available that at&t does.
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T-Mobile should be called T - never have signal!
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jordant2 said:
I don't disagree with you, but users are starting to steer clear of devices that are difficult to root. Just look at the at&t note 4. Not even a hint of root and very little developer interest. People would rather just get the t-mobile version. Samsung and at&t seem to be a bad combination for people who want to root and ROM moving forward. Unless we get a developer edition like Verizon.
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Symbian was the most secure mobile phone OS. I do not know why nokia ditched it in favor of windows phone and meego, Symbian still had so much potential.
darthmalus said:
Symbian was the most secure mobile phone OS. I do not know why nokia ditched it in favor of windows phone and meego, Symbian still had so much potential.
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I actually never used symbian. Some how samsung keeps sucking me in with the next phone or watch so I've given up root for now. I'm using the note edge just to try something different and it is pretty complete with out root. But the developers always make samsung ROMs smoother.
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Rumor is Verizon s5 has lollipop on the way out.

Hoping to help get root at least

Here are some files I found if there is a specific directory you need to see I'll try to get access to it all you need to do is post the dir here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-k10MX8t9TXN0lsSGpteFRBQnc/view?usp=docslist_api
Best of luck! We T-Mobile S7 owners are crossing our fingers.
Adaway will make this phone perfect.
I've rooted every phone I've had, there's always been a reason I needed it. I got to say though, I can't find an everyday reason to really need it on my edge.
Kris
FatKris said:
I've rooted every phone I've had, there's always been a reason I needed it. I got to say though, I can't find an everyday reason to really need it on my edge.
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So you don't want freedom so you don't want Xposed via flashfire so you don't want Titanium Backup those are just some things I need root for idk about you but even if I didn't need those things I would still do it just because I can.....
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So you don't want freedom so you don't want Xposed via flashfire so you don't want Titanium Backup those are just some things I need root for idk about you but even if I didn't need those things I would still do it just because I can.....
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I think there's pros and cons to everything...
I love rooting, always have but this is the first time in a long time that I can't root and it's actually not so bad.
Granted I'd love to be able to installing ROMs, remove ads and bloat and have all these tweaks and tricks but it's sort of like... been there, done that.
If you root your phone now, you can NEVER use Samsung Pay... EVER on your device. Even if you restore stock firmware. That's actually a big issue now with mobile payments being a common thing.
I kind of like having my phone much more secure and safe to do important financial transactions and access important accounts (just like I do on my iPhone) without fear of lax security while using rooted/custom software.
I think moving into the future, flagship phones like Samsung's Galaxy line(s) won't risk bad press or the potential for bad press by allowing the modding community to easily gain root access and customize their software.
They have more to lose than gain by doing that, especially with their rivalry with Apple being so neck and neck now.
I think people like us on XDA who love rooting will have to purchase devices from up and coming OEMs if we still want to root, either that or Nexus devices.
HNIC215 said:
I think there's pros and cons to everything...
I love rooting, always have but this is the first time in a long time that I can't root and it's actually not so bad.
Granted I'd love to be able to installing ROMs, remove ads and bloat and have all these tweaks and tricks but it's sort of like... been there, done that.
If you root your phone now, you can NEVER use Samsung Pay... EVER on your device. Even if you restore stock firmware. That's actually a big issue now with mobile payments being a common thing.
I kind of like having my phone much more secure and safe to do important financial transactions and access important accounts (just like I do on my iPhone) without fear of lax security while using rooted/custom software.
I think moving into the future, flagship phones like Samsung's Galaxy line(s) won't risk bad press or the potential for bad press by allowing the modding community to easily gain root access and customize their software.
They have more to lose than gain by doing that, especially with their rivalry with Apple being so neck and neck now.
I think people like us on XDA who love rooting will have to purchase devices from up and coming OEMs if we still want to root, either that or Nexus devices.
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1. So you would sacrifice freedom for convenience
2. Geohots court session with Apple made it legal to jailbreak aka root phones so why exactly would they get "bad press"
3. Android is open source so what Samsung is doing is kind of breaking the law of Android destroying the very foundation and purpose of it's creation
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1. So you would sacrifice freedom for convenience
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I mean that's the thing with security in this day and age. No?
In order to have it, you must sacrifice the freedom (to an extent) to mod and install 3rd party software. While I personally love what XDA stands for, does and has to offer - I mean I love rooting and customizing my phones but I certainly can understand the other perspective in regards to security. XDA might be full of great individuals who are trying to improve the software experience for users, however, there are plenty of other 3rd parties who have ill intent.
It's the same reason why Apple is so strict with system access on iOS.
Samsung is trying to be their equal - in terms of quality, security and everything else.
In order to maintain that level of security in the midst of a global, albeit slow, roll out of Samsung Pay, they have to limit access to their system as well.
Which is why, like I said in my previous comment, if you EVER root a Samsung phone then you can NEVER use Samsung Pay on it.
To a lot of folks, especially those coming from the iPhone, Mobile Payments, Mobile Banking and security in general is a very important feature for them to have.
If not, it furthers the stereotype that Android is less secure than Apple. Which doesn't sit well with the plethora of users who don't care about rooting - we at XDA after all are really a niche group of users when looking at the grand scheme of consumers.
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2. Geohots court session with Apple made it legal to jailbreak aka root phones so why exactly would they get "bad press"
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They would get "bad press" if something were to compromise the security of their devices - anywhere in the world. Especially if that compromise impacted the potential safety and security of their Mobile Payment system.
Which rooting or allowing access to certain parts of the system may or may not do. Which is a big deal to them, their investors and most of their consumers (who aren't aware or concerned about rooting).
Android already has an unfair stereotype/label that it is less secure compared to iPhone.
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3. Android is open source so what Samsung is doing is kind of breaking the law of Android destroying the very foundation and purpose of it's creation
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Samsung doesn't care about what people like us on XDA think. People like us, who love to root and have the freedom to do whatever it is they want to their phones or to the software on their phones. As much as I hate to say it, we are a niche group.
I would love a developer edition of the S7/S7 Edge, that enables us to do all the wonderful things that the amazing and talented developers at XDA create for us. I would also love to be able to continue to use Samsung Pay and access and carry out important financial transactions through my mobile device.
Alas, that's not the case. So we have to choose between a bootloader locked version of the S7/S7 Edge or no S7/S7 Edge at all.
I think this phone is amazing and after years of nonstop rooting and customizing ROMs I don't mind sacrificing that aspect of customization in order to have a secure phone that I can do all the same things I can do on my iPhone 6s Plus.
Do I miss it sometimes? Sure
However, it's not the end of the world for me and the S7 Edge is still the best Android phone I've ever owned or used (I've owned alot too).
It is the "iPhone" of the Android world in terms of premium look/feel and quality and I think that is exactly the correlation that Samsung wants more consumers to have and think.
I was using Samsung Pay on my S6 Edge, and I decided to root it, unlock the bootloader, and flash a new ROM on it. 2 days later, someone had all of my personal info, all the info for a credit card I had on file and was using on my phone, and ran up $6000. I got a text from the bank to verify a purchase which I didn't make, and I responded that I did not make the transaction, but someone had enough information about me to call the bank, verify all of my information along with the purchase. I'm not saying the unlocking and flashing allowed someone to access this information, but it's a fairly large coincidence. Moving forward, any device that I use for financial transactions and such will remain stock, and if I root a device and flash it, it will be a separate device that doesn't contain any confidential information.
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I was using Samsung Pay on my S6 Edge, and I decided to root it, unlock the bootloader, and flash a new ROM on it. 2 days later, someone had all of my personal info, all the info for a credit card I had on file and was using on my phone, and ran up $6000. I got a text from the bank to verify a purchase which I didn't make, and I responded that I did not make the transaction, but someone had enough information about me to call the bank, verify all of my information along with the purchase. I'm not saying the unlocking and flashing allowed someone to access this information, but it's a fairly large coincidence. Moving forward, any device that I use for financial transactions and such will remain stock, and if I root a device and flash it, it will be a separate device that doesn't contain any confidential information.
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Exactly my point...
This is what makes so many consumers out there trust Apple because, whether true or not, they feel safe with Apple.
Samsung - being Apple's equivalent in the Android world - wants that same recognition and consumer trust.
I can't blame them either.
In this day and age, it is simply the world we live in, security is paramount for businesses and consumers alike.
I been rooting all my phones and my wife's phones for about 5-6 years and can say this phone is perfect jus the way it is. Since launch I had the gs7 edge and not once have I got the urge to root this beautiful device. And I'm sure I speak for most of us here that we can't go 2 days with a new phone without gaining root, flashing roms or xpose etc. For me it's more than jus keeping security. Samsung jus made a phone worth keeping stock, finally.
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I've rooted every single android phone I've owned. I was one of the first people to run CyanogenMod on my Droid when some crazy no-named guy named Koush appeared out of nowhere and said SPRecovery that we had ALL had wasn't "real" recovery and created his own recovery in order to flash the real CyanogenMod ROM. Later this recovery would be called Clockwork Mod. I remember flashing .sbf files that replaced everything on the phone just for a silly custom boot logo. I used to kang features and themes from N1 threads on here, back when that was really the only phone on XDA. I used to build ROMs and custom themes and all that craziness. I remember when changing the clock color was unbelievably complicated. Google integrated many features first pioneered by devs into their main product that these phones all run on now. Taking away our ability to do that may very well slow the development of Android. It defeats the purpose of open-source. If you wish to forgo the freedom of root for the security of KNOX, or Samsung Pay, or whatever feature that conflicts with root, you're free to do so, even if rooting is possible. And manufacturers have always warned against rooting because it takes away from the security features they worked hard to include, and none have ever been held accountable for someone rooting a device before. It wouldn't be any different now. I guess, in summary, they really have nothing to lose by allowing root. Even if I have no real reason to root, I still would like the option to do on a device that I shelled out $700+ for. Rooting never was for everybody. But because some developers were nice enough to simplify the process to the point a chimp could do it. Literally. People that probably shouldn't root, did it anyways, but then felt that they shouldn't be responsible for their own actions. But for those of us that don't need our hand held throughout the entire process of owning a device, having the freedom to treat our property as we like doesn't seem like it's asking all that much. Especially for a device that runs on open-source software...
(Good God, I rambled a lot longer than intended. Sorry about the novel)
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I've rooted every single android phone I've owned. I was one of the first people to run CyanogenMod on my Droid when some crazy no-named guy named Koush appeared out of nowhere and said SPRecovery that we had ALL had wasn't "real" recovery and created his own recovery in order to flash the real CyanogenMod ROM. Later this recovery would be called Clockwork Mod. I remember flashing .sbf files that replaced everything on the phone just for a silly custom boot logo. I used to kang features and themes from N1 threads on here, back when that was really the only phone on XDA. I used to build ROMs and custom themes and all that craziness. I remember when changing the clock color was unbelievably complicated. Google integrated many features first pioneered by devs into their main product that these phones all run on now. Taking away our ability to do that may very well slow the development of Android. It defeats the purpose of open-source. If you wish to forgo the freedom of root for the security of KNOX, or Samsung Pay, or whatever feature that conflicts with root, you're free to do so, even if rooting is possible. And manufacturers have always warned against rooting because it takes away from the security features they worked hard to include, and none have ever been held accountable for someone rooting a device before. It wouldn't be any different now. I guess, in summary, they really have nothing to lose by allowing root. Even if I have no real reason to root, I still would like the option to do on a device that I shelled out $700+ for. Rooting never was for everybody. But because some developers were nice enough to simplify the process to the point a chimp could do it. Literally. People that probably shouldn't root, did it anyways, but then felt that they shouldn't be responsible for their own actions. But for those of us that don't need our hand held throughout the entire process of owning a device, having the freedom to treat our property as we like doesn't seem like it's asking all that much. Especially for a device that runs on open-source software...
(Good God, I rambled a lot longer than intended. Sorry about the novel)
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Preach on brotha!
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Loving this phone so far. Great battery life! Don't really care about root atm.

Will Huawei offer unlocking bootloaders again due to the ban?

We all know it sucked when Huawei stopped offering their bootloader unlocks a while back, but now with the US ban and their plans of releasing a OS of their own do you guys think there's a chance they'll start offering unlocking bootloaders to their older products as a incentive to have them install their new one?
If not then my P20 Pro is gonna end up being a paperweight fairly shortly I fear...
The new os might come to p20 pro too.
But hey, i think they will since people will return their phones thus loosing profit. Soooo
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The new os might come to p20 pro too.
But hey, i think they will since people will return their phones thus loosing profit. Soooo
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Considering the range of their products and how many are in circulation I suppose it would make sense to offer the option atleast
I don't think huawei will worry about customers who have already paid for their handsets.
Question is how many of you would consider buying another huawei device. Speaking for myself...I wouldn't. Possibility to unlock bootloader wouldn't make much difference when we're out of regular android updates.
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I don't think huawei will worry about customers who have already paid for their handsets.
Question is how many of you would consider buying another huawei device. Speaking for myself...I wouldn't. Possibility to unlock bootloader wouldn't make much difference when we're out of regular android updates.
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If they are making their own OS variant with their own marketplace then having as many users migrate over to it as possible is beneficial to their spying services
A new OS is the least of Huawei's problems. UK's ARM has cut ties with them now. No ARM = no Kirin chipset. US trade war is kind of getting out of control. Spying, as most people are lead to believe has yet to be proven in the 7 years it first came up. However, shady business practice is a different thing.
Let's just wait and see, this is a political and commercial issue, negociations will happen shortly, I am not worried, service will resume.
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Let's just wait and see, this is a political and commercial issue, negociations will happen shortly, I am not worried, service will resume.
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I hope they ditch Android for their os. It would be much better imo, since it will also support android apps so what is the reason to keep android if your os will be much better?
With prices on Huawei and Honor phones taking a beating, I was hoping to pick up a cheap one, unlock its bootloader and install Lineage or other Android distro.
Sadly, looks like H have blocked the opportunity
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With prices on Huawei and Honor phones taking a beating, I was hoping to pick up a cheap one, unlock its bootloader and install Lineage or other Android distro.
Sadly, looks like H have blocked the opportunity
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Sadly yes, if they kept on with their previous policy on that matter, it would be easier to maintain. I had the chance to have had an unlocked unit on lineage which was working great, and was faster. I lost it and got a new one, but locked without any hope to get it unlocked. But this phone ages well anyways, and one can uninstall or disable many many apps, which makes the phone more responsive. Also, it will unfold well, is just an unfortunate trade move but it will get well.
Tbh EMUI is very optimised for the cpu.
If huawei's new os had the deep intergration style of IOS, you can say goodbye to custom roms.
I mean EMUI as rn is very fluid and fast and i see no reason to change roms(even tho they locked the bootloader)
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Tbh EMUI is very optimised for the cpu.
If huawei's new os had the deep intergration style of IOS, you can say goodbye to custom roms.
I mean EMUI as rn is very fluid and fast and i see no reason to change roms(even tho they locked the bootloader)
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You've never seen an OnePlus fluidity . Got an 3t at a bargain price. 4 years old and is more fluid than p20 pro .
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You've never seen an OnePlus fluidity . Got an 3t at a bargain price. 4 years old and is more fluid than p20 pro .
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Sacrifice features over fluidity, not really my cup of tea. But still, i am waiting for what Huawei will come up with.
Personally I think there is far too much money involved in all this for Huawei to just go under.
The biggest issue is the CPU, every Android device is based on arm and as arm have pulled their contracts with Huawei, Huawei for the moment at least are on borrowed time, they'll have a stock pike but due to the nature of arm, they can't even make their own chip as it'll use arms architecture and that can't happen as arm will sue, problem with that is, even if they did make a chip, they'd have to get developers to develop for it and as it stands everyone makes for arm. Lol it's impossible, very clever on the person who is pulling the strings part.
That being said, it won't last, they'll negotiate and it'll be resolved, as it was with ZTE from sanctions in Iran against the US.
The long and short of it is just money, the US wants to tax that Huawei ass a little bit, as well as show them who's boss.
Then everyone will be happy.
As for the bootloader, I would say a resounding no, looking at Huawei, they've gone totally Apple now, going for their own OS too (they were anyway)
Plus the Chinese variant didn't have the play store to begin with so they're half way there.
I can't see them ever offering bootloader keys ever again, which is fine for them, but the way they went about it was abysmal.
The phones they used to make were sub standard and weak with lots of issues and most techies avoided them like the plague then they teamed with XDA and it's users, got some great press and buzz from XDA users, not to mention our influence and started banging out some decent phones.
Then they pulled the rug out and essentially closed their doors on any kind of loyalty there was to the true modders, developers and enthusiasts of Android, shocking.
The will almost certainly not go bust, but for what they've done and how they've held themselves, to me and many other users on here who like to root and tinker, they may as well not exist any more..
Shame as they we going in a good direction.
Ah well. One plus time.
Rant over.....
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RazOne said:
You've never seen an OnePlus fluidity . Got an 3t at a bargain price. 4 years old and is more fluid than p20 pro .
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I agree Vs emui, but I'm running AOSIP on the p20 pro and it's ridiculously smooth, would still prefer a OnePlus tho.
Getting the 7pro very soon.
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Sacrifice features over fluidity, not really my cup of tea. But still, i am waiting for what Huawei will come up with.
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Well, what features exactly ?
Decision of giving bootloader unlock codes again will lead to that consequences:
-part of their userbase will turn to open-source OSes
-due to their beign as second top manufacturer that part will be large in numbers
-that will hit Google's positions in userbase of standard Android (system and services).
That looks like win-win situation for Huawei, except they want to move that switching userbase to themselves and their new OS.
So I doubt Huawei will decide to make world better. It's just business.
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djama29 said:
hi, bootloader code service start work today, i can get code, +375257585263 Viber WhatsApp
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Yeeeeeeeahhhhh, why not on xda private? And will it be free?
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Yeeeeeeeahhhhh, why not on xda private? And will it be free?
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I wrote to him on whatsapp .... for $45
pablo103 said:
I wrote to him on whatsapp .... for $45
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Does it come with a paper that says You got scammed?
Yeah i would not trust any bootloader unlock methods that require cash.

P20 Pro Bootloader unlock code 2020, is there ANYWHERE i can get one?

So is it possible to get get the unlock code to a CLT-L29 in 2020?
I was backing up pictures with USB, and cable was loose and fell off, and for some reason that made my P20 remove all media on my phone.
Due to limitations in EMUI 9 i cant use any deepscan, but might work on EMUI 8, but my phone wont show the allow PC remote hisuite app window to appear, so its a bust.
Next i wanna try ROOT, but need unlock code to root.
Has anyone any way of getting this code? that know it works? dont feel like spending 50$ on a fake page/service.
// Fredrik
frodrick79 said:
So is it possible to get get the unlock code to a CLT-L29 in 2020?
I was backing up pictures with USB, and cable was loose and fell off, and for some reason that made my P20 remove all media on my phone.
Due to limitations in EMUI 9 i cant use any deepscan, but might work on EMUI 8, but my phone wont show the allow PC remote hisuite app window to appear, so its a bust.
Next i wanna try ROOT, but need unlock code to root.
Has anyone any way of getting this code? that know it works? dont feel like spending 50$ on a fake page/service.
// Fredrik
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Officially or unofficially, no.
However there is one method which involves opening the phone, this is going to remain the only method unless a team tries to work it out which I highly doubt.
Crap I know, not a lot you can do pal. Most people have jumped ship. Can't see anyone who mods their phone buying Huawei ever again. I certainly won't.
dladz said:
Officially or unofficially, no.
However there is one method which involves opening the phone, this is going to remain the only method unless a team tries to work it out which I highly doubt.
Crap I know, not a lot you can do pal. Most people have jumped ship. Can't see anyone who mods their phone buying Huawei ever again. I certainly won't.
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You'll never walk alone!
dladz said:
Officially or unofficially, no.
However there is one method which involves opening the phone, this is going to remain the only method unless a team tries to work it out which I highly doubt.
Crap I know, not a lot you can do pal. Most people have jumped ship. Can't see anyone who mods their phone buying Huawei ever again. I certainly won't.
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Neither would i too. Tired of all the waiting and issues that i had with huawei, to the point where i will be switching to Iphone.
I will say it again for huawei : Great hardware, **** software.
The Restless Soul said:
Neither would i too. Tired of all the waiting and issues that i had with huawei, to the point where i will be switching to Iphone.
I will say it again for huawei : Great hardware, **** software.
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GPU is crap too, but I agree for the most part.
Never again
OnePlus mate, get the 8, I wouldn't buy apple personally.
dladz said:
GPU is crap too, but I agree for the most part.
Never again
OnePlus mate, get the 8, I wouldn't buy apple personally.
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Well, i am done with Android in general. Google's been removing features each update and honestly, the **** optimization that Android has regarding multitasking is so bad....how could Apple use 4gb of ram to keep so many apps easily?
Oneplus, yeah, they have their opimizations here and there, but i don't want to go set up the app background limit or some other stuff just to get it fictional (according to dontkillmyapp.com)
Either way, i will see what will happen in the future. If oneplus 8 comes with true water resistance and wireless charging, then sure as hell i might switch to it. If not, then i am going for Apple (i'd rather pay a kidney and know i got a functional device that will have 5+ years of updates)
Still it's sad that Huawei doesn't co-op with the xda community by letting us test harmony OS, develop apps and report bugs, but oh well...
I am also very interested in what op 8 brings but i would be slightly more skeptical. Well sure, if dev support and performance are the only factors go get it. Keep in mind that Oneplus (7 serie) is also known for terrible ram management. Another thing worth to consider is camera. Compared to huawei, samsung, pixel or iPhone it is just ok. If you have time please read op 7t pro review on xda. It's long but worth to read.
Btw. You're totally right about root and development today. It's not that fun anymore, unlocking bl often breaks functionality of crucial apps (like paying with phone) and magisk hide doesn't help it all.
(besides even op 7t pro doesn't have fully working twrp yet).
As for the iPhone. Price is still scary and storage/battery capacity is a joke. Only iphone 11 pro max gets decent size battery... and beats android handsets on this field About ios it's all about t personal preferences.
There is method called BLK, it costs about 30 dollars to get BLK key and two guys who know how to do it will help you with getting bootloader code for free. You can contact them at huaweihax on telegram
forever_lol said:
I am also very interested in what op 8 brings but i would be slightly more skeptical. Well sure, if dev support and performance are the only factors go get it. Keep in mind that Oneplus (7 serie) is also known for terrible ram management. Another thing worth to consider is camera. Compared to huawei, samsung, pixel or iPhone it is just ok. If you have time please read op 7t pro review on xda. It's long but worth to read.
Btw. You're totally right about root and development today. It's not that fun anymore, unlocking bl often breaks functionality of crucial apps (like paying with phone) and magisk hide doesn't help it all.
(besides even op 7t pro doesn't have fully working twrp yet).
As for the iPhone. Price is still scary and storage/battery capacity is a joke. Only iphone 11 pro max gets decent size battery... and beats android handsets on this field About ios it's all about t personal preferences.
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I mean, you get what you pay for. I am not an apple fanboy since i never got a chance to fully test an iphone or any apple product, but honestly, after testing an iphone 11 pro in a store (as well as iphone 11 which, for an hd screen, it looks pretty good), i'd take the risk with the prices just for a phone that will hold me very well for more than 5 years. Storage wise, i always do cleanup on my phone and, on my p20 pro, i barely used the 128gb storage (sits somewhere under 32gb). About battery, for a 3000mah battery, it holds longer than my p20 pro, which is amazing! Yeah, the max pro is better but it is too big and large to even fit in my pocket. But either way, i will see what iphone i should get.
I wish ANDROID OEM's would keep up with apple and bring up at least 5 years of OS updates, especially when they have their own services.
And thank you for agreeing with me regarding my opinion about bootloader unlocking. It is pretty much useless and Google may just disable the adb command in the near future. Why sacrifice 80% of the phone's features for a custom rom?
puszekkk said:
There is method called BLK, it costs about 30 dollars to get BLK key and two guys who know how to do it will help you with getting bootloader code for free. You can contact them at huaweihax on telegram
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..... Interesting, has anyone on these forums had any success with this method?
(other than the thread by @XTutorials https://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p20-pro/how-to/finnaly-t3972825 - which i noted with interest but nothing much seemed to come of it)
Could really do with hearing some success stories - I don't mind sabotaging the phone by getting the cover off and losing water-resistance.... but I'd want to be reasonably sure it was going to work :laugh:
What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking bootloade on this phoner? I've had an unlocked bootloader since i bought this phone, however never seen any great benefit apart from ad blocking. Been running stock for 6 months now though. I came from a long list of HTC devices where modding was fun and actual features added. I just don't see any major benefit of doing this on this phone. Basically no Devs development. If you wanted closer stock Android, not sure why anyone would have bought Huawei in the first place. Maybe im missing some super feature, if so, please tell me.
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What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking bootloade on this phoner? I've had an unlocked bootloader since i bought this phone, however never seen any great benefit apart from ad blocking. Been running stock for 6 months now though. I came from a long list of HTC devices where modding was fun and actual features added. I just don't see any major benefit of doing this on this phone. Basically no Devs development. If you wanted closer stock Android, not sure why anyone would have bought Huawei in the first place. Maybe im missing some super feature, if so, please tell me.
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Pretty much "xdatards" complaining at every huawei post that they no longer provide bootloader unlocking. I mean, samsung and other big oem still don't allow it or it does but breaks the entire software and they barely have any custom roms (not talking about xiaomi or oneplus)
Either way, i won't be surprised if Google removes the bootloader unlock command from adb in the next big android update.
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What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking ......
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Personally, I'm not interested in any phone restricted to EMUI - whilst it's not a terrible iteration of Android it's still too restrictive by half (e.g. the low maximum headphone volume really pee'd me off!)
I don't understand all the excitement of EMUI updates on these forums - whatever Huawei churn out next it will probably be more restrictive rubbish. IMO the only hope is Lineage 16.0 - I'm running that on a View 10 and it's a good daily driver (although a little tricky to install and maintain)
But you're right: Q: Why buy a Huawei if you're interested in stock Android experience?
A: It was a mistake with hindsight....!
JJ2017 said:
Personally, I'm not interested in any phone restricted to EMUI - whilst it's not a terrible iteration of Android it's still too restrictive by half (e.g. the low maximum headphone volume really pee'd me off!)
I don't understand all the excitement of EMUI updates on these forums - whatever Huawei churn out next it will probably be more restrictive rubbish. IMO the only hope is Lineage 16.0 - I'm running that on a View 10 and it's a good daily driver (although a little tricky to install and maintain)
But you're right: Q: Why buy a Huawei if you're interested in stock Android experience?
A: It was a mistake with hindsight....!
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They already blocked the bootloader unlocking thing in emui 10, just like how every android oem will do in their next major update.
I start to think that Apple is no longer the **** company now when it comes to mobile market, it's the android oem. Let's be fair : you pay 1k for a phone that becomes irrelevant in 2 years, becomes slowers because of those so called "security updates", no custom rom support (even though custom roms are pretty much dead at this point, barely any builds coming up), and other software related issues.
What the hell is innovation if software is the main point of a product? Those so called "Isheeps" are so right with android's terrible update platform and optimization. 12gb of ram for what? Just for specs to flex with.
Everybody should switch to Iphones at this point.
Huawei tried to kill apple but honestly, with their broken promises, i start to think that maybe the android ban is a good reason for Huawei to start respecting customers and coop with them. After all, they want to be on top...
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Well, i am done with Android in general. Google's been removing features each update and honestly, the **** optimization that Android has regarding multitasking is so bad....how could Apple use 4gb of ram to keep so many apps easily?
Oneplus, yeah, they have their opimizations here and there, but i don't want to go set up the app background limit or some other stuff just to get it fictional (according to dontkillmyapp.com)
Either way, i will see what will happen in the future. If oneplus 8 comes with true water resistance and wireless charging, then sure as hell i might switch to it. If not, then i am going for Apple (i'd rather pay a kidney and know i got a functional device that will have 5+ years of updates)
Still it's sad that Huawei doesn't co-op with the xda community by letting us test harmony OS, develop apps and report bugs, but oh well...
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Screw Huawei, they deserve it.
As for Apple, it's exactly the same with Mac OS Vs windows, windows has to work on a plethora of hardware combinations, as does android, osx and iOS have very very very limited hardware combinations, bare in mind how much android has caught up, it's not noticeable any longer, in fact a lot of phones have surpassed apple in so many ways. Oneplus and Pixels namely.
I've lived with Apple once, that was enough
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They already blocked the bootloader unlocking thing in emui 10, just like how every android oem will do in their next major update.
I start to think that Apple is no longer the **** company now when it comes to mobile market, it's the android oem. Let's be fair : you pay 1k for a phone that becomes irrelevant in 2 years, becomes slowers because of those so called "security updates", no custom rom support (even though custom roms are pretty much dead at this point, barely any builds coming up), and other software related issues.
What the hell is innovation if software is the main point of a product? Those so called "Isheeps" are so right with android's terrible update platform and optimization. 12gb of ram for what? Just for specs to flex with.
Everybody should switch to Iphones at this point.
Huawei tried to kill apple but honestly, with their broken promises, i start to think that maybe the android ban is a good reason for Huawei to start respecting customers and coop with them. After all, they want to be on top...
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Where are you getting this from?? Samsung, OnePlus, Google, lg, have all kept the door open for bootloader unlocking or did I miss something?
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I don't understand all the excitement of EMUI updates on these forums - whatever Huawei churn out next it will probably be more restrictive rubbish. IMO the only hope is Lineage 16.0 - I'm running that on a View 10 and it's a good daily driver (although a little tricky to install and maintain)
But you're right: Q: Why buy a Huawei if you're interested in stock Android experience?
A: It was a mistake with hindsight....!
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Lol about the updates, for many it's the potential prospect of having anything other than EMUI and or any limitations being lifted and or the poor optimizations becoming better than the trash that we've had to get used to.
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What is the features that everyone wants from unlocking bootloade on this phoner? I've had an unlocked bootloader since i bought this phone, however never seen any great benefit apart from ad blocking. Been running stock for 6 months now though. I came from a long list of HTC devices where modding was fun and actual features added. I just don't see any major benefit of doing this on this phone. Basically no Devs development. If you wanted closer stock Android, not sure why anyone would have bought Huawei in the first place. Maybe im missing some super feature, if so, please tell me.
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Titanium.
AOSIP ROM
True ad blocking
Xposed
Magisk mods
Snapchat mods
Ability to remove zram (massive boost in gaming and device speed)
Root optimizations
Root apps
Kernels
TWRP mods
True dark mode (something I've been using for several years not this awful crap they're calling a feature nowadays)
I could be here all day long.
Removing the shackles, gives you freedom, it's your choice what you do with it.
This is the essence of android, which is why people are annoyed at Huawei primarily amongst other awful decisions.
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Where are you getting this from?? Samsung, OnePlus, Google, lg, have all kept the door open for bootloader unlocking or did I miss something?
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Possibility to unlock bl is limited to regional releases in case of LG or Samsung. Lastly i check there was no way to unlock bl on lg g8 (flagship 2019). LG update policy is the most stupid ive ever experienced. Regarding galaxy s serie - there are still regional variants (eg american carrier branded) where unlocking bl is not available.
As for the perks you mentioned... I am afraid not of them are available / fully working today. I am not a gamer so only adblock is sth really useful to me, but it's not a deal breaker.
Couple of years ago root meant sth. Gave you freedom and didn't bring any negative consequences. It's no longer the case. I think root scene will be dead within couple of years.
It's a shame that htc is dead. Their flagships were equipped with top notch hw and devs support was among the best on xda.
Unlock bootloader on samsung : Knox ****s the entire phone up
Unlock bootloader on lg : impossible on some phone variants
What i was talking about is that all companies like to copy eachother, no matter how small or big it is. Take a note with the disappearance of the headphone jack : Apple did it first and then everybody did it too. Huawei got the in display fingerprint scanner and reverse wireless charging : Samsung copies it.
Now with emui 10, Google can as well block the unlock command because then companies will copy this "feature".
Actually, since the iphone 11 pro release, Apple caught up with the competition of flagship devices.
I understand you regarding oneplus being a good comapany that allows bootloader unlocking. But the thing is : you unlock it you loose some important daily driver features like banking apps (which i use). Oneplus, by the looks of it, did it so well with the speed and optimization, however i'm not sure how well they did it with ram management. Either way, when it comes to overall support and less headaches, Apple does it better. "it just works!"
Still, let's see what 2020 brings up. Huawei might redeem themselves this time. If not, then say goodbye because i don't give more chances.
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Possibility to unlock bl is limited to regional releases in case of LG or Samsung. Lastly i check there was no way to unlock bl on lg g8 (flagship 2019). LG update policy is the most stupid ive ever experienced.
As for the perks you mentioned... I am afraid not of them are available / fully working today. I am not a gamer so only adblock is sth really useful to me, but it's not a deal breaker.
Couple of years ago root meant sth. Gave you freedom and didn't bring any negative consequences. It's no longer the case. I think root scene will be dead within couple of years.
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Unfortunately, the root community is pretty much dying since summer 2019 (imo). Most rooting apps can be used with adb (like appops and shizuku). Either way, like i said, i won't be surprised if Google blocks unlocking in the adb command.
Also, Huawei can root their phones using service mode, but nobody has access to their service software, yet.
I think we will disagree on this. I cannot remember everything I use root for, but things do pop up from time to time.
It's just easier with root.
Android will always have root and if not then it's the end of android, i really wouldn't bother anymore.
What I mentioned still works btw, and yes you do trust the efuse chip on some devices, but so what, it's worth it.
Losing a banking app? You use it yes but that's you lol, I would trade that off for root.
Apple is still a closed eco system and always will be I honestly cannot see android ever being that way, if it is then bye bye android.
This is my opinion and it's staying that way lads, sorry but that's me.
dladz said:
I think we will disagree on this. I cannot remember everything I use root for, but things do pop up from time to time.
It's just easier with root.
Android will always have root and if not then it's the end of android, i really wouldn't bother anymore.
What I mentioned still works btw, and yes you do trust the efuse chip on some devices, but so what, it's worth it.
Losing a banking app? You use it yes but that's you lol, I would trade that off for root.
Apple is still a closed eco system and always will be I honestly cannot see android ever being that way, if it is then bye bye android.
This is my opinion and it's staying that way lads, sorry but that's me.
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If Google completely killed rooting, ppl will still buy them. XDA rooting is a niche market now days. Rooting, custom ROMs etc was fun while it lasted. I still love android eco system, way superior to iDevices. iPhones can be jailbroken too, not as closed as you might think.
purple patch said:
If Google completely killed rooting, ppl will still buy them. XDA rooting is a niche market now days. Rooting, custom ROMs etc was fun while it lasted. I still love android eco system, way superior to iDevices. iPhones can be jailbroken too, not as closed as you might think.
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Quite a defeatist attitude of you. ask me, jailbreak didn't work on the latest OS, it's cat and mouse, not the same thing as root, not the same OS, your comparing oranges and apples.
Google won't do that, not being naive either, time will tell. I didn't think unlocked multipliers on CPUs would still be around today, yet here we are with a dedicated line for both AMD and Intel, GPU had now followed suit as had RAM.
Google isn't dead, they're just getting started, closing off a massive part of what made them famous in the first place isn't something they're going to embrace, that's the likes of Huaweis job.
Time will tell, right now it's open and there's nothing to suggest otherwise, besides the backlash should it happen.
If it did happen I would have no hesitation to buy apple, at that point android would have lost their ace up their sleeve, because I'm a small minority who thinks that doesnt mean I'm wrong, not wanting to follow the masses is a good thing, and going by Google's hiring techniques they'd agree.

Will the North American/Snapdragon variants ever get an unlocked boot loader?

Really want to install a custom ROM on this phone...
Thank you for your help XDA.
Nope
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Really want to install a custom ROM on this phone...
Thank you for your help XDA.
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For everyone reading NO. the bootloader is locked and will remain locked on higher end snapdragon (US) models for one reason and one reason only. Enterprise (business) sales. Companies need secure devices that users can't tamper with. It's the same reason apple strives to be un-jailbreakable. It's really about those Enterprise contracts where they are selling possibly tens of thousands of devices under contracts to companies in return for a secure platform that can't pose a security threat.
No
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For everyone reading NO. the bootloader is locked and will remain locked on higher end snapdragon (US) models for one reason and one reason only. Enterprise (business) sales. Companies need secure devices that users can't tamper with. It's the same reason apple strives to be un-jailbreakable. It's really about those Enterprise contracts where they are selling possibly tens of thousands of devices under contracts to companies in return for a secure platform that can't pose a security threat.
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using my root you can at least flash gsis now.. most custom itll probably get lol
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using my root you can at least flash gsis now.. most custom itll probably get lol
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Yeah I saw. It's awesome you were able to make some progress. Not for me though.
Only reason I used to root was to install cynogenmod, my favorite Android fork ever, (also always had Superior battery life when done right) and they killed that off and changed to linageos, which doesn't really support any new devices anymore. Lack of AOSP ROMs with all the usage tracking and garbage removed has seriously dented my need for root.
Not to say others don't have reasons to root, just giving my 0.02 why rooting isn't even worth it for me personally anymore
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Yeah I saw. It's awesome you were able to make some progress. Not for me though.
Only reason I used to root was to install cynogenmod, my favorite Android fork ever, (also always had Superior battery life when done right) and they killed that off and changed to linageos, which doesn't really support any new devices anymore. Lack of AOSP ROMs with all the usage tracking and garbage removed has seriously dented my need for root.
Not to say others don't have reasons to root, just giving my 0.02 why rooting isn't even worth it for me personally anymore
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i mean los has a gsi u can use but i dunno wat all is working or broke
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i mean los has a gsi u can use but i dunno wat all is working or broke
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im not sure what a gsi is, but note 9 isnt supported for lineage os officially. there might be an unnofical build but i need a phone not a broken toy lol.
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For everyone reading NO. the bootloader is locked and will remain locked on higher end snapdragon (US) models for one reason and one reason only. Enterprise (business) sales. Companies need secure devices that users can't tamper with. It's the same reason apple strives to be un-jailbreakable. It's really about those Enterprise contracts where they are selling possibly tens of thousands of devices under contracts to companies in return for a secure platform that can't pose a security threat.
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I have been telling people this for years but no one listens.
That is because people dont read
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